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Title: 35 cases of illness tied to Pa. farm's raw milk
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URL Source: http://news.ino.com/headlines/?newsid=6898377124791
Published: Feb 3, 2012
Author: AP
Post Date: 2012-02-03 12:56:14 by Esso
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Comments: 24
(AP:HARRISBURG, Pa.) Pennsylvania health officials say the number of people stricken with illness after consuming raw milk from the same dairy has risen to 35 in four states. The confirmed cases of campylobacter bacterial infection include 28 people in Pennsylvania, four in Maryland, two in West Virginia, and one in New Jersey. Health officials said Thursday consumers should discard raw milk bought from the Family Cow farm in Chambersburg on or after Jan. 1. The farm has voluntarily suspended raw milk production. An Agriculture Department spokeswoman said final test results of milk samples from the farm may be available Friday. The federal Food and Drug Administration warns that raw, or unpasteurized, milk can contain harmful bacteria. Dairy farmers say demand is growing because of concerns about hormones in traditional dairy products. Poster Comment: Here we go...
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#1. To: Esso (#0)
I don't drink raw milk. That's why yogurt, kefir and cheese exist. The fermentation takes care of the possible bad bacteria.
Serial killer psychopaths ruin families. Corporate psychopaths ruin societies -- Prof. Robert Hare
I drank raw milk for years when I was young and so far as I know never once got sick because of it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
Most people don't get sick, but the reason fermentation exists is to make sure you never get sick. I'll have to admit, I don't understand clabbered milk, although it was very common among my Scots-Irish ancestors. Serial killer psychopaths ruin families. Corporate psychopaths ruin societies -- Prof. Robert Hare
wonder how much they pay one of their agents to go taint the supply so they may get some headlines to help pass more laws to protect us from this evil, demon brew?
There ya go, that's exactly what I was thinking. Goob's had a hard-on for raw milk for quite some time now.
Know what you get when you churn clabbered milk? Butter. I used to help churn it many years ago. And it was good too. http://www.cooksinfo.com/clabbered-milk snip: Language Notes "Clabber" and "lopper" both mean the same thing. Clabber is of Gaelic origin, lopper is of Anglo-saxon origin. Clabber was the preferred word in Ireland. You'd think that it would also be the preferred word in Scotland, and perhaps down a bit into northern England. Some linguistic maps show this, but others disagree, showing "loppered" as preferred in Scotland. In Scotland, though, they also coined the English word "bonnyclabber" to mean "clabbered milk". Note, it refers to clabbered milk, and not clabbered cream. The word comes from the Gaelic word "bainne clabair", which in turn came from two Gaelic words, "bainne" and "claba". "Bainne" means milk. Different meanings are ascribed to the word "claba": "Clabar"-- can mean someone who turns a churn; The word "bonneyclabber" hung on in America in a few parts of New England, where it was sometimes pronounced "bonnyclapper". In any event, there it continued to mean sour, thick milk. In some places in Scotland, however, "bonneyclabber" later came to also mean a drink made from buttermilk and beer mixed together. In any event, "clabber" is probably not, at least in this context, a (sic) old word for "cupboard or pantry", as some sources say. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
they are governmental bureaucrats they do it just as a public service.
You were reading my mind again. There seems to be an agenda in place to associate natural products with disease and chemical laced, hormone infused, GMO tainted products (which building evidence shows create many long term health and reproductive problems) with "safe". The sucker class, living as they do in constant created fear, will swallow Mine too, but who knows? Illness or not, raw milk should still be legal and available for anyone who wants it. People get ill from perscription medicine too, otherwise known as side effects, but that's okay, according to them. It's not a perfect world, and the fed gov does not exist to try to create one.
great answer *s - geeze, I'm #7 of 8 kids raised on raw milk well into teen years when it first came under attack in our neighborhood - oldest is near 70 now - making butter in a Mason jar while watching old B&W TV - clear memory yet ... they simply do not want us being healthy is my opinion, no money in it Courts, Coinage, and Defense (and that means defense not aggressive Imperial Wars). The Feral Government has no other legitimate function. All other governmental functions should not be handled at the State or local level. While it is possible that there is an infected cow that tainted the milk, it does occasionally happen, as you rightly point out Pharmaceuticals account for many more deaths by several orders of magnitude - the last number I saw was 120,000 annually. So, we balance 28 people who got somewhat sick versus 120,000 deaths and so of course the FDA is more concerned with Raw Milk. That makes sense. NOT. I used to hand milk a family friend's cow and would take it straight off the teet, a little for me, a little for the cats, and a pail full for the fridge. in fourth or fifth grade one of classroom lectures was churning butter which we all got to do and then spread it on fresh baked bread as a snack.
Criminy, nowadays, the FDA would call in drone strikes on you.
by and by a good friend of mine is an MD who has noticed in the past decade or so of more and more cases of children (girls) reaching puberty before the age of twelve and a vast number of the male patients he sees have low testosterone I asked if any studies have been done to correlate his observations with milk consumption to which none have been done because the mass market dairies lobby against such studies. has something to do with the estrogen they pump into their cows.
last time I drank milk was back in '78 but that was straight from a goat, we were out there to kill one of its kin folk for the main course of a party.
I bet 5x that many get sick from fast food restaurants on a daily basis and just don't realize it. Of course that won't keep the feds from using it as an example of why those selling raw milk should be treated like criminals
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
i'm the S. Austin drop off location for raw milk, cream, and cheese from a farmer in Schulenberg, Tx. Our club has approximately 40 families who participate. we all love our fresh raw products and no one has ever gotten sick from it. on the contrary, we enjoy its many health benefits, not to mention, it's delicious.
i think estrogen from soy being put in everything is the reason for that, not milk.
the production mill dairies pump estrogen into their cows to boost milk output their cows are stressed and sick, which is why people seek out the small farmers supplying raw milk. yes soy is another source of estrogen as well as just about all plastics used for food and beverage containers.
the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET IRTorqued posted on 2012-02-03 20:19:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #13. To: IRTorqued (#12) Criminy, nowadays, the FDA would call in drone strikes on you. Satire Satire of a decade ago becomes a reality of today. My first thought too. If we consider the possibility that a new (or sloppy, hungover, pissed off and therefore careless) employee was responsible or it was sabotage then these days I'd give even money on either. The fact that it was a dairy supplying several states thereby guaranteeing federal intervention makes me even more suspicious. In order to make sure that the owners didn't drink from the freshest batch and find the problem first it may have involved contaminating a tank that was filling bottles for delivery. That would also guarantee wide dispersal like a "bio Claymore" if you will. All that would be necessary to guarantee success is to hand a small bottle of pure bacteria to a carefully selected employee with the promise of a green card and assurance that nothing would prevent his family from joining him soon. "I wish I was a teddy bear, Not livin' or lovin'... Nor goin' nowhere. I wish I was a teddy bear.... And I'm wishin' that I hadn't fallen in love with you."
Actually my understanding is that it is from the MONSATAN rGBH (recombinant Growth Bovine Hormone) which mimics estrogen. It causes girls to go into puberty early and little boys to grow tits. You are correct on this one.
Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson
#2. To: Turtle (#1)
#3. To: James Deffenbach (#2)
I drank raw milk for years when I was young and so far as I know never once got sick because of it.
#4. To: Esso (#0)
~ the truth will set ya free, but only after it pisses ya off ~
#5. To: Amandil (#4)
(Edited)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#6. To: Turtle (#3)
(Edited)
I'll have to admit, I don't understand clabbered milk
"clabair" -- a Gaelic word meaning sour thick milk or the paddle on a butter churn;
Ben Jonson felt that "clabar" here should be interpreted as "mud or mire", perhaps in allusion to some curdling.
#7. To: Amandil (#4)
the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET
#8. To: Amandil, Esso (#4)
wonder how much they pay one of their agents to go taint the supply so they may get some headlines to help pass more laws to protect us from this evil, demon brew?
anyone anything that is claimed to be looking after their "safety".
#9. To: Original_Intent (#8)
You were reading my mind again.
#10. To: IRTorqued (#7)
they are governmental bureaucrats they do it just as a public service.
~ the truth will set ya free, but only after it pisses ya off ~
#11. To: Pinguinite (#9)
It's not a perfect world, and the fed gov does not exist to try to create one.
#12. To: Amandil (#10)
the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET
#13. To: IRTorqued (#12)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#14. To: Amandil (#10)
the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET
#15. To: Esso (#13)
the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET
#16. To: Esso (#0)
#17. To: Esso (#0)
#18. To: IRTorqued (#14)
#19. To: christine (#18)
the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET
#20. To: Esso (#13)
I used to hand milk a family friend's cow and would take it straight off the teet, a little for me, a little for the cats, and a pail full for the fridge. in fourth or fifth grade one of classroom lectures was churning butter which we all got to do and then spread it on fresh baked bread as a snack.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" 
#21. To: Esso, Amandil, christine (#5)
There ya go, that's exactly what I was thinking. Goob's had a hard-on for raw milk for quite some time now.
#22. To: christine, IRTorqued (#18)
i think estrogen from soy being put in everything is the reason for that, not milk.
#23. To: Original_Intent (#22)
#24. To: Lod (#23)
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