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Title: New study says spanking leads to problems
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URL Source: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life ... blems/article2328873/comments/
Published: Feb 6, 2012
Author: adriana barton
Post Date: 2012-02-06 22:45:00 by Tatarewicz
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The spanking debate just got ratcheted up another notch. New Canadian research suggests that spanking may end up causing, rather than preventing, antisocial behaviours. The report, published Monday in the Canadian Medical Association Journal, contradicts British politicians’ recent arguments that anti-smacking laws contribute to lax parenting – and social chaos such as last summer’s London riots. Canadian researchers analyzed two decades of studies on the long-term effects of physical punishment in children. They found no upside to spanking. Instead, they concluded that physical punishment puts children at risk for depression, anxiety, substance abuse and aggressive behaviour later in life. “We find children who are physically punished get more aggressive over time and those who are not physically punished get less aggressive over time,” lead author Joan Durrant, a clinical psychologist at the University of Manitoba, told Time.com. Nevertheless, spanking is sanctioned in Section 43 of Canada’s Criminal Code, as long as it’s physical punishment “of a trifling nature” done by a parent to a child aged 2 to 12. As The Globe and Mail reported earlier, many Canadians are convinced that kids may benefit from a good smack on the rear. The top-rated comment to The Globe article was written by a father by the name of ShakeTheTree, who explained that his 3-year-old “with a very stubborn streak” responds to spanking when all else fails. “I never spank in anger,” he wrote. “I always explain ahead of time that he needs to listen to me for his safety and if he doesn't, he'll be spanked.” Others are appalled that Canadian law allows parents to strike children. “The legality of hitting your children empowers those who might take it too far,” commented thelionroars. Meanwhile, a committee to remove Section 43 is underway at Repeal43.org. Committee member Corinne Robertshaw noted in an e-mail to The Globe and Mail that “trifling hits” between adults are rarely charged “and we don't need a special defence to prevent [charges] when the victim is a child.” She defined discipline as “teaching through example and respect,” whereas “spanking is assault. Let’s stop equating the two.” But until every last parent is on side, there will always be adults who remember being spanked as kids, and say they turned out fine. Poster Comment: From among comments: common55 I have yet to spank my 4 year old son once. Taking away a favorite toy for 3 sleeps works just fine. 3 sleeps when you are 4 is a long time, and when you get the toy back you remember why you lost it for so long. Reem2010 To spank or not to spank, that is the question. The problem is with the father who takes out his anger on the child because he is having a bad day at work, or the mother who is so stressed out that she cannot take any more whinning from a 4 yearl old. When you justify spanking because it serves YOU, then definitely, spanking is a no, no. So, where do we go from here? to completely criminalize spanking would mean that parents will no longer have ANY authority over their kids. Some kids are very defiant and stubborn. Which means a 7-year-old throwing eggs at the neighbors car (true story!) or the 3 year-old drawing with ink on the sofa might actually try this behaviour again. I remember being spanked ONCE in my life, but I promise you that I learned THEN and THERE what could happen if I crossed the line. That fear of authority had an influence on me and made me think twice before getting into anything stupid. j mitchman I spanked my 3 yr old last week for drawing with ink on the sofa, after repeated attempts to stop the writing on the walls and on almsot everything else. A little smack on the bottom does make the relization that that type of behavior is unacceptable. It hurt me more than them to do it but it beats having it happen while visiting someone elses house and the embarassment that comes from undisciplined children. No such thing as bad kids just bad parents Tatarewicz1 To prevent such damage to furniture, etc., would be worthwhile to make sure there are several alternative objects like blackboards, spheres and so on on which the child can express itself, repeatedly coaching the child to restrict drawings and emphasizing inappropriate markings will require costly cleanings/repairs, thus limiting the amount of money available for food, favorite treats, etc. starla8383 I can't imagine what kind of warped mind thinks that having clean furniture is more important than the security and well-being of a child. You left ink within arm's reach of the child - you're to blame for the result. Hitting the child for your mistake is nothing short of monstrous. mr_scary I rarely spank anymore. My two boys have discovered that when I spank I really mean it. After a few savage blows they understand what's what. They respect me more. And I always make sure we have a heartfelt talk afterwards. Less bad times then makes for more good times. All I usually end up doing these days is mentioning they will get spanked if they continue. One thing is for sure, I never spank out of anger. I have developed a ceremony and they know it well enough.
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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0)
Spare the rod and spoil the child.
Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson No spanking increases the likelyhood that Dad will have to knock the shit out of son when he's 15 and questions who is in charge around the household.
#2. To: Tatarewicz, Lod (#0)
-Alex Kurtagic
#3. To: Tatarewicz (#0)
Very interesting study. I'm against spanking kids for I've had neighbors in the past who would take their anger out on their children which caused the children to suffer physical and emotional scars. These children wound up being taken up by social services. Thank god that day happened. I felt so sorry for those children. I view children as a gift and not a burden to our society. What they need is love, patience, and understanding from adults instead of being bullied and stifled from expressing emotion. The children of the future need to be led by example. And that is by parents who want to have them here and to teach them how to lead the way of the world. In other words, children should not be told they have no voice in the family for they are just as important as the parents. This instills confidence and high self-esteem. Parents who subject their children to bullying and spanking them out of anger, are no different than the schoolyard bullies and teachers who also give the child a daily dose of more abuse. After awhile, the child sees no way of expression, trust nobody and therefore suffers intense depression. Some of these children wind up taking their own lives before they are teenagers.
#4. To: purplerose (#3) (Edited)
There's huge difference between spanking as discipline and serial abuse. Just like there's a huge difference between whipping your slave as a loving "correction" and beating it just because you can. It's a Southern thing, I guess... ;-)
-Alex Kurtagic
#5. To: X-15 (#4) (Edited)
Children are not slaves. Parents who regard and/or treat children as slaves should never have had children in the first place. The white slavery act was written on account of parents who physically and mentally abused their children and sold their children into the porn business. Also the child labor laws were written to protect children from abuses by the parents and especially where it applies to child actors where parents are pimping out their children to talent agencies. Just like there's a huge difference between whipping your slave as a loving "correction" and beating it just because you can. It's a Southern thing, I guess...
#6. To: Lod (#1)
That Biblical phrase means to guide a child with a rod, the way sheep are guided with a rod. It didn't mean to hit them. Spare the rod and spoil the child.
Serial killer psychopaths ruin families. Corporate psychopaths ruin societies -- Prof. Robert Hare
#7. To: X-15 (#2)
The only thing I ever did to a kid is cuff them across the back of the head, just as animals do. Animals don't beat their offspring. All three kids I did this to turned out just fine. No spanking increases the likelyhood that Dad will have to knock the shit out of son when he's 15 and questions who is in charge around the household.
Serial killer psychopaths ruin families. Corporate psychopaths ruin societies -- Prof. Robert Hare
#8. To: purplerose, x-15, original_intent (#3)
God has nothing to do with CPS, but satan certainly does. It originated as a eugenics agency & its current purpose is to destroy families, undermine parents, subvert the constition & empower the almighty state. They are pure evil. taken up by social services. Thank god that day happened.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#9. To: Artisan (#8) (Edited)
Ok, good point made. But the law had to come into the picture there. Here in the U.S., spousal abuse is a crime and especially when kids are physically abused by the parent(s). Kids do have rights and there are attorney advocates for children pertaining to these issues. I remember the late actor Gary Coleman suing his parents for misappropriating his money. They had been living off of his money since he got started in the acting business. Parents who do this stuff are the same kind who physically, mentally and verbally abuse their children. The late pop singer Michael Jackson and his brothers and sisters also suffered abuse from their father and were used as human chattel. Another example is the Jon Benet Ramsey case where her parents were acquited of child abuse. They were trying to turn her into a high-classed prostitute to service high-classed society people. She was just 5 y.o. if I remember correctly. The abuse of children starts at a very young age. Spanking is just the beginning part of which leads to other forms of abuse by the parent(s) onto the child. I believe in gentle discipline on children. Spanking and verbally abusing the child is not teaching them you love them at all. It teaches them that violence is the only way to make your point through.
#10. To: purplerose (#9)
i'm not against spanking & dont think it's abuse, but i respect the right of every parent to raise their kids as they wish. I dont condone abuse. The issue with family courts is that courts with due process are already established.prosecute there.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
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