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Title: kneeling at the edge of ditch, waiting for the bullet
Source: Lew Rockwell
URL Source: [None]
Published: Feb 7, 2012
Author: Eric Peters
Post Date: 2012-02-07 09:49:23 by ghostdogtxn
Keywords: None
Views: 1404
Comments: 15

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#1. To: ghostdogtxn, *libertarians*, *Jack-Booted Thugs*, *Humor-Weird News* (#0)

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freepatriot32  posted on  2012-02-07   10:57:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: ghostdogtxn, freepatriot32 (#0)

great article, other than his concession of the holohoax. But as the author himself ironically pointed out, many people are still asleep or conditioned.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-02-07   13:12:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

Yet most Americans are still asleep – or so medicated and conditioned that they’re no longer capable of seeing.

How much worse does it have to get?

Will it literally take a bayonet shove in the back as they are directed to the trucks that will take them to the camps? I think it will.

I agree with the author completely on this issue.

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-02-07   13:24:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

Forcing the system to confront itself – or at least, making it plain what the system has become.

It has become what it has always become throughout history -- a mega-security system to serve the "elite"...their enforcement of entropy against Freedom. Freedom is entropy to their designs.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-02-07   13:55:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

Good article. I live in Ohio but have family in south Florida so I can't avoid travel completely. It takes me two days to drive there. I have not flown since they put in the backscatter X-ray machines at Port Columbus. Eventually I may have to. The price of gas doesn't make it any easier. It is cheaper to fly than to drive. I would even consider Amtrak, but thanks to John Kasich, there are no passenger trains in my city. Also, there is no guarantee that they won't use the machines on train passengers. Amtrak takes longer and costs more than flying.

strepsiptera  posted on  2012-02-07   13:59:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

I looked up the difference between detention and arrest and found the following post from a cop on a law enforcement web site:

www.realpolice.net/forums...detained-vs-arrested.html

Detentions are shorter in duration and scope than arrest, and require a lower burden of proof.

If I have Reasonable Suspicion that a crime has or is about to occur, and reasonably believe that a person may have information about this, I can detain them for a short period of time to investigate the matter. As part of my investigation, I can conduct a pat down for weapons (if I reasonably believe that they may be present) and seek information to determine exactly what is, has, or will happen. The timeframe can vary a bit due to each set of circumstances, but 20 minutes or so has been ruled to be a reasonable timeframe for detaining someone.

If I have Probable Cause to believe a specific person has committed a crime, I can arrest that person. At that point, I can conduct a complete search of their person for weapons, evidence, and contraband, as well as their vehcile if they are or have been near it recently. I can remove them from the scene and hold them (in jail) for 24 hours or until I get a warrant issued for the charges.

If anyone resists an arrest or detention, I am authorized to use force to apprehend them (in addition, resisting an arrest or detention is a crime, so resisting immediately gives me probable cause to make an arrest).

Normally I don't have to use any "meaningful" physical force to restrain someone I am detaining or arresting. Most people cooperate on their own.

A person can usually tell (with me) because I'll tell them when they are under arrest. If a case arises when I handcuff someone who is merely detained, I will tell them, "You're not under arrest at this time; you are being detained while I investigate what's going on."

Hope that clarifies things-

Citicop.

strepsiptera  posted on  2012-02-07   14:07:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: strepsiptera (#5)

Relatives in the 'natti report a super deluxe bus service that they use.

Apologies for the lack of details.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2012-02-07   14:10:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

The Myth of Investigative Detention Vs Arrest

Many officers have been taught that an arrest occurs whenever law enforcement creates a situation in which a subject is “not free to leave.” If that was a correct definition, every investigative detention, i.e., “Terry stop,” would be an arrest. Some officers have been taught that if they use any force whatsoever to restrain someone, they have arrested that person. If this statement was true, then an officer could not even grab someone’s arm during a “Terry stop” to prevent him from walking away.

In fact, in terms of federal constitutional law, neither of these teachings is a correct definition of arrest. However, these explanations correctly define a “seizure” of a person. A seizure of a person occurs whenever force is used or a person submits to a show of authority by police. Seizures of persons come in two forms: investigative detentions, AKA “Terry stops,” which require reasonable suspicion, and arrests, which require probable cause.

Arrest as a Federal Constitutional Concept

What, then, is a correct definition of arrest, for purposes of federal Constitutional law? An arrest is a seizure of a person in which the subject is 1) required to go elsewhere with police, or 2) deprived of his freedom of movement for more than a brief period of time, or 3) subjected to more force than is reasonably part of an investigative detention.

So, if an officer has said or done things that would cause a reasonable person to believe that he was not free to leave or to decline the contact with the police and either the subject is required to leave and go elsewhere with police or a detention persists for more than a short while, or more force is used than is reasonable to simply restrain someone, then that person has been arrested. Even if an officer does not intend to arrest the subject, the courts will likely determine that the interaction is in fact an arrest.

strepsiptera  posted on  2012-02-07   14:14:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: strepsiptera (#6)

Check out MegaBus.com to see if they can get you to your FL destination.

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Lod  posted on  2012-02-07   16:39:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#9)

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Lod  posted on  2012-02-07   18:10:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Artisan (#2) (Edited)

great article, other than his concession of the holohoax.

He needs to watch a few choice videos.

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to help wake the town and tell the people.
Do your friends and family know what you know?

wakeup  posted on  2012-02-12   14:23:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: wakeup, 4 (#11)

Type the holocaust is a lie into Y'tube's search bar.

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Lod  posted on  2012-02-12   14:30:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Lod, All (#12)

We need a "Holy Holohoax" DVD for the Project.

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to help wake the town and tell the people.
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wakeup  posted on  2012-02-12   14:32:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

Imagine people putting their cars in Park, turning off the engine and turning on their flashers – and just sitting there at East German style “safety” checkpoints. Masses of them. Passively refusing to participate.

Now there is a movement just begging to be started!


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Critter  posted on  2012-02-12   14:48:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Critter (#14)

Now there is a movement just begging to be started!

I love the idea.

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The OneDollarDVDProject needs patriot activists
to help wake the town and tell the people.
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wakeup  posted on  2012-02-12   23:58:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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