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Title: Madonna’s NFL Half Time Show - Satanic Ritual
Source: Hollywood Illuminati
URL Source: http://hollywoodilluminati.com/2012 ... sguised-in-the-half-time-show/
Published: Feb 6, 2012
Author: Nicolas Duplessis
Post Date: 2012-02-08 08:52:04 by Bill D Berger
Keywords: None
Views: 10580
Comments: 418

Madonna’s NFL Satanic Ritual disguised as Church Music. by Nicolas Duplessis.

(The Illuminati always has to do its rituals between the New Moon and Full Moon.  The Full Moon is in 2 more days, so it is their time for rituals  & what better place than a Half Time show with millions of people?)
 
 
On top of us having a nearly full moon cycle tonight, on this second month, of day five in the year 2012, this moon cycle is very important to the Illuminati because any ritual that is done, will be full force because the power of the ritual will grow with the moon.

While the full moon starts in 48 more hours, it is very important for the Illuminati Ritual to happen before that due date.
 (Madonna opened with a Roman Theme but she didnt have a Roman Helmet, instead she had a ritual Lucifer horned crown of gold!)
(Red. Black. Gold. All of the colors used in Madonna’s Half Time Show)
 
 (Madonna used Satan horns for her opening act)
 
Madonna comes out, and her first act is a Roman Theme Show to her track “Vogue”.  But while it was a Roman costume theme, one couldn’t help but notice the two Satan horns coming up from Madonna’s head gear.  The Romans didn’t wear helmets with horns nor can this be found in Egypt head gear being that she did mix in some Egyptian ritual dancing.

 
 
 
Also at the top of the show, the wings that appear to be feathers of an angel are really webbed wings, which are associated with Lucifer photos from the Roman Era.
 
We see the male dancers doing acrobats for her track “Music”. During this chaos, there were two male dancers that got down on all fours, like the Muslims do when they pray to Allah.  Most cheerleading teams, do not actually assume a prostration position when building a pyramid but in Satanic Rituals, it is believed that Lucifer or the devil would assume a prostration position and the witches would line up and kiss his anus as a sign of respect.  We not only saw a classic Lucifer Ritual Pose but we also saw the quick building of a pyramid by her dancers.

(The male dancers in Act 2 (Track: Music) made a quick pyramid and Madonna slithered through the pyramid like a snake. The pyramid in the photo is Satan’s Pyramid and an occult seal used to invoke Satan during rituals.)
 
In Freemason Bibles, which is basically the King James Bible, except on page 33 of the Freemason Bible, it informs the reader that Lucifer is the real God & that Lucifer is the real Jesus and also according to this Freemason Bible, it is indeed Lucifer that is the carrier of light.  So, these people are masters at double talk and hiding their worship of Satan behind Christianity.
 
So, we see her final Act and she comes out in a black Sabbath witch’s gown, singing to her track “Like A Prayer” but yet this supposedly religious song doesn’t use the word Jesus, so who was she praying to when she dropped to her knees?
 
 
(Light sticks are used in Illuminati Rituals, to worship Lucifer, and they are often held by the observers of the rituals, as a way of participating. )
 
 According to Lucifer Freemason Texts, Lucifer is the lord of light and to worship Lucifer one would wear a black robe (like Madonna had on) and by her having the entire stadium participate with her in this ritual by holding up lights to her ritual, she basically did a classic musician performance of casting a spell on her audience and fooling them into Satanic Worship.
 
Dont forget that before Madonna put on the black robe, her dancers were in red, gold & black outfits and some were in red & white, which are colors that one uses to worship Lucifer.  The entire show had a lucifer color theme.

(To worship Lucifer, one must wear mostly red and black. Madonna had on a black robe but the entire color scheme of the entire show was blk/red if you take into account her dancers starting in the second part of Act 2 with the cheer-leader rappers)
 
During the last act “Like a Prayer” we not only see lights that are made to look like Hell Fire & sometimes the beams of light even take on a giant, quick pyramid formation but also during this supposedly ”church song” she ends the show by dropping into the ground.  This was a Satanic Ritual.
 
What did this ritual mean? This Satanic Ritual, is a classic petition to Satan, in an effort to call for chaos out of order.  While many people think that the Illuminati wants order out of chaos, that is simply not true.

 
According to Illuminati text, the Fallen One, desires Chaos out of Order. They will take what is orderly and make it chaotic!
 
 So, this ritual, done by madonna along with millions of Americans, spells wars, disease and a crashing of the Old World Order.  While the lights at the end said “World Peace”-it doesnt matter what you see but instead you have to look at what they do and what is their definition of “peace”.
 
This is Hollywood and this is what Hollywood does best.
(Photo from Infowars.com)
 
Satanist Madonna & her Satanic Ritual NFL Show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lypnhDeQE8&feature=player_embedded#!
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#99. To: Bill D Berger (#0)

"In Freemason Bibles, which is basically the King James Bible, except on page 33 of the Freemason Bible, it informs the reader that Lucifer is the real God & that Lucifer is the real Jesus and also according to this Freemason Bible, it is indeed Lucifer that is the carrier of light. So, these people are masters at double talk and hiding their worship of Satan behind Christianity."

I own a King James Bible. Are you telling me that this is a satanic bible?

BTW, I worked in the entertainment world and much of what you posted is true. I was exposed to it for 21 years. In order to become very successful in the industry, you give up something to the talent agencies. Your soul, your dignity and self-respect. I left when the time afforded me to when things started getting really bad.

purplerose  posted on  2012-02-08   17:10:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: FormerLurker (#86)

Did you miss the video I posted illustrating the deeds of that band Mayhem at an outdoor performance where thousands of kids were there? Now THAT is something to be concerned about, as it is ongoing, and kids are getting into that sort of thing as we speak...

Ah yes.

If we could only revert back to the gentle music of my youth.....

Or the lullabys of my childhood .....

Before all this silly symbolism got in the way.

Smiley face

Buzzard  posted on  2012-02-08   18:17:29 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Original_Intent (#58)

Her Girdle/Belt is reminiscent of a Mason's Apron.

a little reminiscent of the High Priest's breastplate as well.

"...Upon the breastplate were set four rows of precious stones, three in each row,...."

www.phoenixmasonry.org/ma...igh_priest_brestplate.htm

"... A week before the Superbowl, Madonna described on Anderson Cooper the spiritual importance she attributed to her halftime show:

“The Superbowl is kind of like the Holy of Holies in America. I’ll come at halfway of the “church experience” and I’m gonna have to deliver a sermon. It’ll have to be very impactful.”

It is rather appropriate that this Kaballah-intiate referred to the Superbowl as the “Holy of Holies” as it was the name of the most sacred place in Solomon’s Temple. No one was ever permitted to enter the Holy of Holies but the High Priest. This privilege was only granted on the Day of Atonement, to offer the blood of sacrifice and incense before the mercy seat. ...." vigilantcitizen

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-02-08   19:12:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: FormerLurker (#95)

to claim Jesus is God is a sin, in direct violation of the 1st Commandment...

Thou shalt have none other gods before me.

Jesus IS God.

kingjbible.com/john/1.htm

bible.cc/isaiah/9-6.htm

what part don't you understand?

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-02-08   19:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Original_Intent (#59)

Ping. FYI.

Thank you...occultpopagenda.blogspot....rship-high-priestess.html

CadetD  posted on  2012-02-08   19:52:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: FormerLurker, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Artisan (#95) (Edited)

And so will you my friend, so will you...

In fact, to claim Jesus is God is a sin, in direct violation of the 1st Commandment...

I agree with you.

Jesus himself said he was the son of God, and trust me he understood what the term son means. Jesus did not lie, he would have told us if he were the father.

he worshiped on Saturday to talk to his father

when he was on a mountain top God parted the clouds and spoke to the man who was with Jesus and said this if my son

Jesus said about the crucifixion, "if this is your will father". If you have a seperate will then you are seperate beings... the father and the son

He said his father was the greater.

I really don't think Jesus was in the habit of talking to himself, so he was talking to God

But since he is the son of God, what species is he..... well he is god....lower case since his dad is God and also a god then Jesus must be a god

If you go to mars and stay in the orbiter and you send your son to the surface, if the martians ask your son what he is, he can say that he is human. Yet they can also say that you are human. It really is that simple.

But the truth is, Jesus was not God the father come to Earth, he was the son (also a god by birth) of God and he spoke to his father regularly, which would have been quite psychotic if he were the father.

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-02-08   20:09:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#102)

Jesus IS God.

Says who, you? He was born 2000 years ago. The 10 Commandents came a thousand or so years earlier.

Even then, MEN wrote the words within the Bible, not God. It was quite advantageous for the Israeli kings and high priests to have people take their word as that of God Himself.

NO MAN has the authority to speak for God, not you, not some cash hungry "evangelist", and not some Jewish "scribe" thousands of years ago doing the bidding of his king.

You're a very deluded individual, and unfortunately, there are MANY more like you who are tearing this country to shreds, and who will more than likely elect a TRULY evil man who WILL be akin to your "anti-christ", who WILL bring about the end of the world as we know it and spread misery and suffering throughout each corner of the planet.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   20:23:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Buzzard (#100)

Black Sabbath and other bands of the era were not satanic, they actually crusaded against war and those who WERE evil. The song War Pigs and Mr. Crowley come to mind...

The bands I mentioned belong to the "black metal" genre, and they openly praise satan and other demonic entities.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   20:29:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#101)

“The Superbowl is kind of like the Holy of Holies in America. I’ll come at halfway of the “church experience” and I’m gonna have to deliver a sermon. It’ll have to be very impactful.”

Imagine my shock when I found out you lied and twisted what was said. She said the SUPERBOWL is like the "Holy of Holies" in America, sure, but she was speaking about the game itself.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   20:33:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: intotheabyss (#104)

Jesus did not lie, he would have told us if he were the father.

bible.cc/john/8-58.htm

The Jews knew He was claiming to be God the Father. That's why they picked up stones to throw at Him. But He "hid" Himself, passing right through them, revealing Himself as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-02-08   20:35:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#101)

It is rather appropriate that this Kaballah-intiate referred to the Superbowl as the “Holy of Holies”

Oh is it? Do you even have any idea at all what the Kaballah is all about?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   20:37:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#108)

Believe what you want, as long as you don't harm anyone else. But when you smear a person who has not harmed anyone, for your own enjoyment or gratification, well, that demonstrates what sort of person you truly are and who you truly serve.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   20:38:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#108)

The Jews knew He was claiming to be God the Father.

Then explain to me who he was praying to on Saturday and who he talked to when they crucified him.

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-02-08   20:39:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: FormerLurker (#109) (Edited)

Do you even have any idea at all what the Kaballah is all about?

it's demonic and it's one of the jooos black majic book

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-02-08   20:40:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: FormerLurker, Buzzard (#106)

Sabbath's N.I.B. is pure evil, it's like satan's calling card.

Why haven't any of you RSVP'd? What are you, a bunch of faithy-clingy terrorists?

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-02-08   20:40:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Dakmar (#113)

Why haven't any of you RSVP'd? What are you, a bunch of faithy-clingy terrorists?

Fairys wear boots, now don't you believe me?

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-02-08   20:42:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: FormerLurker (#106)

Black Sabbath and other bands of the era were not satanic, they actually crusaded against war and those who WERE evil. The song War Pigs and Mr. Crowley come to mind...

I agree with you. When Ozzy wrote suicide solution he was talking about the evils of alcohol and other things. They were not evil people, they detested war thats why the lyrics described it so badly.

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-02-08   20:45:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: intotheabyss (#114)

accept no substitutes

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-02-08   20:45:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: intotheabyss, FormerLurker (#115)

Black Sabbath and other bands of the era were not satanic, they actually crusaded against war and those who WERE evil. The song War Pigs and Mr. Crowley come to mind...

I agree with you. When Ozzy wrote suicide solution he was talking about the evils of alcohol and other things. They were not evil people, they detested war thats why the lyrics described it so badly.

Sabbath were always warning us about the danger of crossing over to the dark side:

After Forever (embedding disabled...)

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-02-08   20:52:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Dakmar (#116) (Edited)

One of my favorites by Black Sabbath

>

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-02-08   20:53:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: All (#118) (Edited)

"treating people like pawns in chess, wait till their judgement day comes"

Ozzy, talking about war of the elite in the song above.

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-02-08   20:57:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Buzzard (#100) (Edited)

I strongly suggest you listen to "War Pigs" by Black Sabbath and you will clearly see their distaste for the evils of war and that God is going to judge the rulers poorly.... Great song!

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-02-08   21:00:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: FormerLurker (#105)

who is your god? because you and i are speaking apples and oranges. you are a non-believer in the God of the Bible, JESUS who said He was the Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last. we could just leave it at that. there's not much point in arguing any further. i doubt you and i will ever see eye to eye.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-02-08   21:06:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: intotheabyss, Buzzard (#120)

"After Forever" is my favorite Black Sabbath song. I posted a vid at 117, here's the lyrics:

Have you ever thought about your soul - can it be saved?
Or perhaps you think that when you're dead you just stay in your grave
Is God just a thought within your head or is he a part of you?
Is Christ just a name that you read in a book when you were in school?

When you think about death do you lose your breath or do you keep your cool?
Would you like to see the Pope on the end of a rope - do you think he's a fool?
Well I have seen the truth, yes I've seen the light and I've changed my ways
And I'll be prepared when you're lonely and scared at the end of our days

Could it be you're afraid of what your friends might say
If they knew you believe in God above?
They should realize before they criticize
that God is the only way to love

Is your mind so small that you have to fall
In with the pack wherever they run
Will you still sneer when death is near
And say they may as well worship the sun?

I think it was true it was people like you that crucified Christ
I think it is sad the opinion you had was the only one voiced
Will you be so sure when your day is near, say you don't believe?
You had the chance but you turned it down, now you can't retrieve

Perhaps you'll think before you say that God is dead and gone
Open your eyes, just realize that he's the one
The only one who can save you now from all this sin and hate
Or will you still jeer at all you hear? Yes! I think it's too late.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-02-08   21:08:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Dakmar (#122)

Great lyrics :)

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-02-08   21:22:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: intotheabyss (#123)

One would be hard pressed to find any evil intent, anyway.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-02-08   21:23:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Dakmar (#124)

One would be hard pressed to find any evil intent, anyway.

Yes, no Wordsworth or Earnest Hemingway but possitive lyrics non the less.

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-02-08   21:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: intotheabyss (#125)

I tried yelling a few Ezra Pound stanzas over a Melvins intro and only succeeded in breaking an end table.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-02-08   21:38:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#87)

Another random datum - Masonry, the Hebrews, and the Old Testament have one certain thing in common - they all originated, as far as they can be traced, in Egypt.

Two unanswered questions:

Where and when did Masrony originate? All we really know is that it is verrry old. I have seen assertions that it goes back to Atlantis.

Similarly where did the Hebrew People originate? We know of their coming out of Egypt but where did they come from before that?

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-08   21:42:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: CadetD (#103)

You are welcome, and thank you for the interesting link.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-08   22:09:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Dakmar, intotheabyss (#126)

I tried yelling a few Ezra Pound stanzas over a Melvins intro and only succeeded in breaking an end table.

That's what you get for pounding.

Perseverent Gardener
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Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-08   22:11:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Original_Intent (#129) (Edited)

I tried yelling a few Ezra Pound stanzas over a Melvins intro and only succeeded in breaking an end table.

The Melvins, aren't they alien invaders from another world or are they preachers. I never can get it straight.

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An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-02-08   22:17:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#121)

who is your god?

The One(s) who created the Universe. Who is yours? A guy you read about in a book written thousands of years ago by people you personally deplore.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   22:45:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: intotheabyss (#104) (Edited)

Jesus himself said he was the son of God, and trust me he understood what the term son means. Jesus did not lie, he would have told us if he were the father.

True, if one is to believe the NT, which itself is of dubious origin. I was born and raised Roman Catholic so I do agree with you in that is what is actually the creed and core of Christianity, that Jesus was the SON of the Father.

Yet, we are told by some rather obsessed individuals that no, he was the Father Himself.

What it comes down to is ultra fanatical bible huggers believe whatever they wish to believe, and damn anyone who doesn't agree with them.

My belief is that the true Creator has nothing at all to do with those beliefs, and that those beliefs are simply the rantings of individuals who need to worship a man because they can't fathom what an entity who transverses space and time and who could create space and time itself would actually be like.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   22:54:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: intotheabyss (#112)

it's demonic and it's one of the jooos black majic book

Nope. It's supposedly the "unwritten book" of the Jewish faith, where adhering to its teachings will bring a person closer to God. In fact, in various Christian beliefs there is a notion of a "Guardian Angel".

That Guardian Angel is the part of a person's soul which is actually in the other realm, call it heaven if you wish. It is the part of the soul that is in contact with the Divine.

The ultimate goal of a Kabbalist is to make contact with that higher self, the Holy Guardian Angel.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   23:00:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Original_Intent (#127)

Similarly where did the Hebrew People originate? We know of their coming out of Egypt but

Southern Yemen. And they did not speak Hebrew, which was yet to form.

Arab folk history from ancient times attribute the S Yemen Jews as the domesticators (sp) of the camel.

And OI, as you know, these statements are made in the provocative mode, because at these distances in pre-history, any affirmative statement is provocative.

Anyway I think I just made up that grammer.

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tom007  posted on  2012-02-08   23:15:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: tom007 (#134)

Anyway I think I just made up that grammer.

Well just don't let Gamma' hear you taking the name of grammar in vein like that.

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"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-08   23:20:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: FormerLurker (#132)

My belief is that the true Creator has nothing at all to do with those beliefs, and that those beliefs are simply the rantings of individuals who need to worship a man because they can't fathom what an entity who transverses space and time and who could create space and time itself would actually be like.

I respect your beliefs, but when I read that he fed 5000 with just a little bit of food and that he made the blind see and all the other miracles that are backed up by the people who hated him (the Pharisees), who said that his father Lucifer gave him those powers. There were far too many witnesses to these miracles done by a man and the people who hated him did not dispute these "magic tricks".

So I have come to believe there is a lot more to it than "just some book". Mere mortal can not do the things that were reported by many that Jesus ( real name Yashua sp?) did.

Our creator sent a man he created hence "his son" to help guide us and he knew the demons (Cains seed) would kill him. His teachings are in line with the greatest minds man has had to offer on how to live life in a harmonious way that would lead to a utopia if people were willing to follow his teachings.

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-02-08   23:21:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Original_Intent (#135)

Yep bad all around.

I was talking about Gamma Rays, but nobody is going to believe me much, here, any way.

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tom007  posted on  2012-02-08   23:23:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: FormerLurker (#133)

Nope. It's supposedly the "unwritten book" of the Jewish faith, where adhering to its teachings will bring a person closer to God. In fact, in various Christian beliefs there is a notion of a "Guardian Angel".

The researchers that have read the other "holy" books of the jooos like the Talmud say that the Kabbal is a demonic book. This is a fairly extensive group of people who back this up. Stan Monteith, Texe Marrs, Rev. Ted Pike.... I could go on and on....

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-02-08   23:24:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: CadetD, Original_Intent (#103) (Edited)

So the author of your link equates Egyptian mythology with satanism, eh? I suppose to a hard core "christian", anything other than bible related stuff is "satanic".

What is also absurd is his equating the "High Priestess" of the Tarot deck with Aleister Crowley, since Crowley did not invent the Tarot deck. Regardless, the Tarot deck did not exist in the days of the Egyptians.

Oh, and I was right about the Isis resemblence apparently. Her headdress was not similar to a horned devil, it was similar to a headdress worn by Isis in Egyptian lore, who was not an evil entity, but a person who could be equated to the Mother Mary in Christian lore.

In fact, it has been claimed that the Christian notion of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost derives from the Egyptian notion of Osirus, Horus, and Isis. And oh yeah, the "mystery" of the Holy Ghost is that it is the female aspect of God.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   23:27:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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