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Title: Madonna’s NFL Half Time Show - Satanic Ritual
Source: Hollywood Illuminati
URL Source: http://hollywoodilluminati.com/2012 ... sguised-in-the-half-time-show/
Published: Feb 6, 2012
Author: Nicolas Duplessis
Post Date: 2012-02-08 08:52:04 by Bill D Berger
Keywords: None
Views: 7340
Comments: 418

Madonna’s NFL Satanic Ritual disguised as Church Music. by Nicolas Duplessis.

(The Illuminati always has to do its rituals between the New Moon and Full Moon.  The Full Moon is in 2 more days, so it is their time for rituals  & what better place than a Half Time show with millions of people?)
 
 
On top of us having a nearly full moon cycle tonight, on this second month, of day five in the year 2012, this moon cycle is very important to the Illuminati because any ritual that is done, will be full force because the power of the ritual will grow with the moon.

While the full moon starts in 48 more hours, it is very important for the Illuminati Ritual to happen before that due date.
 (Madonna opened with a Roman Theme but she didnt have a Roman Helmet, instead she had a ritual Lucifer horned crown of gold!)
(Red. Black. Gold. All of the colors used in Madonna’s Half Time Show)
 
 (Madonna used Satan horns for her opening act)
 
Madonna comes out, and her first act is a Roman Theme Show to her track “Vogue”.  But while it was a Roman costume theme, one couldn’t help but notice the two Satan horns coming up from Madonna’s head gear.  The Romans didn’t wear helmets with horns nor can this be found in Egypt head gear being that she did mix in some Egyptian ritual dancing.

 
  • Also in Act 1-Vogue Track, which is a synchronised dance song, we see a black guy dancing around Madonna with Angel Wings and a harp.  Lucifer, was the angel of music and the arts before he fell from heaven. 
 
 
Also at the top of the show, the wings that appear to be feathers of an angel are really webbed wings, which are associated with Lucifer photos from the Roman Era.
 
We see the male dancers doing acrobats for her track “Music”. During this chaos, there were two male dancers that got down on all fours, like the Muslims do when they pray to Allah.  Most cheerleading teams, do not actually assume a prostration position when building a pyramid but in Satanic Rituals, it is believed that Lucifer or the devil would assume a prostration position and the witches would line up and kiss his anus as a sign of respect.  We not only saw a classic Lucifer Ritual Pose but we also saw the quick building of a pyramid by her dancers.

(The male dancers in Act 2 (Track: Music) made a quick pyramid and Madonna slithered through the pyramid like a snake. The pyramid in the photo is Satan’s Pyramid and an occult seal used to invoke Satan during rituals.)
 
In Freemason Bibles, which is basically the King James Bible, except on page 33 of the Freemason Bible, it informs the reader that Lucifer is the real God & that Lucifer is the real Jesus and also according to this Freemason Bible, it is indeed Lucifer that is the carrier of light.  So, these people are masters at double talk and hiding their worship of Satan behind Christianity.
 
So, we see her final Act and she comes out in a black Sabbath witch’s gown, singing to her track “Like A Prayer” but yet this supposedly religious song doesn’t use the word Jesus, so who was she praying to when she dropped to her knees?
 

  • Her track “Like a Prayer” has lyrics saying “I close my eyes and I think I’m falling out of the sky.”  This track tells the story of Lucifer, the Fallen Angel.
 
(Light sticks are used in Illuminati Rituals, to worship Lucifer, and they are often held by the observers of the rituals, as a way of participating. )
 
 According to Lucifer Freemason Texts, Lucifer is the lord of light and to worship Lucifer one would wear a black robe (like Madonna had on) and by her having the entire stadium participate with her in this ritual by holding up lights to her ritual, she basically did a classic musician performance of casting a spell on her audience and fooling them into Satanic Worship.
 
Dont forget that before Madonna put on the black robe, her dancers were in red, gold & black outfits and some were in red & white, which are colors that one uses to worship Lucifer.  The entire show had a lucifer color theme.

(To worship Lucifer, one must wear mostly red and black. Madonna had on a black robe but the entire color scheme of the entire show was blk/red if you take into account her dancers starting in the second part of Act 2 with the cheer-leader rappers)
 
During the last act “Like a Prayer” we not only see lights that are made to look like Hell Fire & sometimes the beams of light even take on a giant, quick pyramid formation but also during this supposedly ”church song” she ends the show by dropping into the ground.  This was a Satanic Ritual.
 
What did this ritual mean? This Satanic Ritual, is a classic petition to Satan, in an effort to call for chaos out of order.  While many people think that the Illuminati wants order out of chaos, that is simply not true.

 
According to Illuminati text, the Fallen One, desires Chaos out of Order. They will take what is orderly and make it chaotic!
 
 So, this ritual, done by madonna along with millions of Americans, spells wars, disease and a crashing of the Old World Order.  While the lights at the end said “World Peace”-it doesnt matter what you see but instead you have to look at what they do and what is their definition of “peace”.
 
This is Hollywood and this is what Hollywood does best.
(Photo from Infowars.com)
 
Satanist Madonna & her Satanic Ritual NFL Show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lypnhDeQE8&feature=player_embedded#!
(18 images)

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#313. To: Original_Intent, FormerLurker (#308)

Honesty, I could give two shits about Madonna, I just hate to see a person publically smeared and crucified for something that is so out of touch with reality.

That's fine. You are welcome to your opinion and to give voice to it.

I guess this is one where we will have to agree, amicably I hope, that we disagree on the point.

To myself, and a lot of other observers who are not unintelligent, the performance definitely had the overtones and appearances of an occult ritual.

I am willing, only, to go so far as to grant that it may simply have been theatrics, but those theatrics were born of her study of and dabbling in the occult, and that she has done so is a matter of public record.

While I have read a little on the subject in no way would I put myself forth as an expert on the Kaballah. However, it is Jewish Mysticism and like some other mystic orders it has its hidden elements.

Whatever Madonna was dramatizing is something with which she is familiar and it was presented as a carefully choreographed allegory which was filled with occult symbolism.

Was it just for drama?

Or was there a deeper meaning?

I'm inclined to "B" but I am far from being able to prove it, but that is my sense of it for a lot of reasons I don't care to take a lot of time outlining.01

Great post and response O_I.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2012-02-13   0:36:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#314. To: TwentyTwelve (#271)

WTF have you been smoking or sniffing these past few days FL?

Why are you so protective of your Goddess Madonna?

He thinks he has a chance with her. ;)

Madonna did not recently become a devil worshiping heathen, she has been one most of her life.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-02-13   0:37:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#315. To: Original_Intent (#308) (Edited)

The person who placed the image of that satanic goat above Madonna's head in the image from the show KNEW that it would instantly convince the more gullible readers that she was "satanic" through the power of suggestion.

My short little experiment concerning Shania Twain demonstrated how easy it is to do. If I had let it go a bit longer, and not have made it so obvious with some of the more bizarre "observations" I made, then I'm sure I would have snagged lots more fish.

Oh boy, Madonna is wearing an Egyptian headdress and dancing around in a black outfit trimmed in gold, and used some of the elements of her "Vogue" (as in the MAGAZINE) video in terms of hand and arm movements.

Yea skippy, she MUST be satanic because of that. You probably think ALL modern music is satanic, and don't appreciate the art of dance and theatre, thinking ANY sort of costume and dance is satanic.

Hell, I'd take a guess and say you must think movies such as Ben Hur and Gladiator are satanic since they're dressed like Romans, and the same goes for Cleopatra, since she's dressed like an Egyptian. Roman and Egyptian garb is satanic in your mind apparently.

You can squeal as loud as you want about what you admittedly know nothing about and can't put your finger on, but it doesn't convince me of anything more than the fact you like to squeal loudly.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-13   0:40:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#316. To: TwentyTwelve (#313)

Great post and response O_I.

I'm sure kissing OI's ass will make you popular with some people.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-13   0:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#317. To: RickyJ (#314) (Edited)

Madonna did not recently become a devil worshiping heathen, she has been one most of her life.

She was born and raised Catholic, and sure, she was quite sexual perhaps, but since when is that "satanic".

I guess if you don't roll around on the floor screaming shit like Linda Blair in the Exorcist, you're a "devil worshipping heathen" in your book, right Ricky?

Oh wait that's right, to you heretics who formulated your own religions, Catholics are the "satanic" ones, forgot about that.

From what I've seen of Southern Christian churches and beliefs, they are most CERTAINLY possessed by demonic forces, and that's probably why they're so easily led by the nose to do the bidding of evil.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-13   0:45:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#318. To: TwentyTwelve (#313)

Thanks.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-13   0:52:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#319. To: FormerLurker, RickyJ, Original_Intent (#317)

Madonna did not recently become a devil worshiping heathen, she has been one most of her life.

She was born and raised Catholic, and sure, she was quite sexual perhaps, but since when is that "satanic".

I guess if you don't roll around on the floor screaming shit like Linda Blair in the Exorcist, you're a "devil worshipping heathen" in your book, right Ricky?

Oh wait that's right, to you heretics who formulated your own religions, Catholics are the "satanic" ones, forgot about that.

Why are you so sensitive about this thread FL?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2012-02-13   0:53:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#320. To: Original_Intent (#318)

Thanks.

My pleasure sir.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2012-02-13   0:54:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#321. To: TwentyTwelve (#319)

Why are you so sensitive about this thread FL?

A) I fight against hypocrisy when I see it in action.

B) I defend myself against attack.

C) I stand up for those who are falsely and wrongfully accused.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-13   0:55:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#322. To: FormerLurker (#315)

Yea skippy, she MUST be satanic because of that. You probably think ALL modern music is satanic, and don't appreciate the art of dance and theatre, thinking ANY sort of costume and dance is satanic.

"If it's naht Scottish IT's CRAP!"

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-13   0:57:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#323. To: TwentyTwelve (#319)

And oh yeah, I hate self-righteous idiots who view themselves as superior to other people who have different yet more logical views, and those who pile on just to have some "fun".


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-13   0:57:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#324. To: FormerLurker (#321)

B) I defend myself against attack.

I posted a video (see post #9).

When did I attack you? Why are you attacking me?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2012-02-13   0:58:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#325. To: FormerLurker (#323)

...I hate self-righteous idiots who view themselves as superior to other people

Who are you referring to? Care to be more specific?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2012-02-13   0:59:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#326. To: TwentyTwelve (#319)

It seems to me the people making accusations here most likely follow some sort of whacked out "ministry" such as Benny Hinn's, who uses mass hypnosis and the power of suggestion to get his "flock" to react the way they do.

That, or he's using some sort of black magic on them, who knows...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-13   1:03:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#327. To: FormerLurker (#316)

Great post and response O_I.

I'm sure kissing OI's ass will make you popular with some people.

Are you ok? Have you had a physical check up lately?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2012-02-13   1:03:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#328. To: TwentyTwelve (#327)

Are you ok? Have you had a physical check up lately?

You remind me a bit of palo verde who would grace the pages of LP with her favorite line, "great post", most of time in response to the ones which were praising GW Bush or some other neocon tripe.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-13   1:05:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#329. To: FormerLurker, TwentyTwelve (#326)

It seems to me the people making accusations here most likely follow some sort of whacked out "ministry" such as Benny Hinn's, who uses mass hypnosis and the power of suggestion to get his "flock" to react the way they do.

So, is it your contention then that anyone who disagrees with your opinion that Madonna is a poor oppressed minority is a follower of Benny Hinn?

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-13   1:08:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#330. To: FormerLurker (#326)

It seems to me the people making accusations here most likely follow some sort of whacked out "ministry" such as Benny Hinn's, who uses mass hypnosis and the power of suggestion to get his "flock" to react the way they do.

That, or he's using some sort of black magic on them, who knows...

I also find the Denver airport very weird, strange and eerie. I spent lots of time viewing all of the murals on the airport walls there.

Am I whacked out? lol

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2012-02-13   1:08:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#331. To: FormerLurker (#330)

Sorry, but the artist who designed this is not a normal person. There is definitly something sinister within his/her brain and soul.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2012-02-13   1:11:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#332. To: TwentyTwelve (#324)

I posted a video (see post #9). When did I attack you? Why are you attacking me?

I guess your memory is fading...

Post 271

#271. To: FormerLurker, Original_Intent (#270)

WTF have you been smoking or sniffing these past few days OI?

WTF have you been smoking or sniffing these past few days FL?

Why are you so protective of your Goddess Madonna?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2012-02-12   14:15:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


In terms of being attacked, I wasn't specifically speaking about you. What's the matter, guilty conscience perhaps?

Since you mention it, you WERE siding against me by making congratulatory comments to OI, and making snide remarks to me.

And hate to burst your bubble, but Madonna is not my "goddess". She's a pop star who I've admired over the years in terms of her beauty and SOME of her music, but that's it.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-13   1:14:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#333. To: FormerLurker, Original_Intent (#328)

Are you ok? Have you had a physical check up lately?

You remind me a bit of palo verde who would grace the pages of LP with her favorite line, "great post", most of time in response to the ones which were praising GW Bush or some other neocon tripe.

Wow. Are you comparing Original_Intent to GW Bush?

IMO I don't see the similarities.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2012-02-13   1:15:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#334. To: TwentyTwelve (#325)

Who are you referring to? Care to be more specific?

What part of "Do not judge lest you be judged" don't you comprehend?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-13   1:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#335. To: TwentyTwelve (#333)

Wow. Are you comparing Original_Intent to GW Bush?

Did Dubya post on LP? I said palo would praise those who posted posts favorable of Bush. Go back and read what I wrote, not what you imagined I wrote.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-13   1:17:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#336. To: TwentyTwelve (#330)

I also find the Denver airport very weird, strange and eerie. I spent lots of time viewing all of the murals on the airport walls there.

And I've posted articles concerning the murals and other disturbing aspects of Denver International Airport. And there IS a lot to be concerned about in terms of that.

So?

Am I whacked out? lol

Do you send your money to Benny Hinn?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-13   1:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#337. To: FormerLurker (#332)

In terms of being attacked, I wasn't specifically speaking about you. What's the matter, guilty conscience perhaps?

No, I do not have any sort of guilty conscience.

I am confused as to why you have been attacking me with so many posts directed at me specifically.

What was in the video I posted that caused you to go off the loose end? Did you send an email to the person who created the video and tell that person how you feel and how much this video upset you?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2012-02-13   1:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#338. To: Original_Intent (#329) (Edited)

So, is it your contention then that anyone who disagrees with your opinion that Madonna is a poor oppressed minority is a follower of Benny Hinn?

I think that most if not all of those who see satan everywhere they look are disturbed individuals for one, and that they most likely are fundamentalist Christians who have been indoctrinated in fear since leaving the hospital delivery room.

And oh yeah, then there are those who know better yet decide to play games because they think themselves "smart" and are doing it simply for entertainment purposes. It's called "trolling".


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-13   1:23:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#339. To: FormerLurker (#336)

Do you send your money to Benny Hinn?

Nope. Too busy trying to support Ron Paul and get him elected POTUS.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2012-02-13   1:23:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#340. To: TwentyTwelve (#337)

I am confused as to why you have been attacking me with so many posts directed at me specifically.

I simply responded to the ones who posted to me, or those you posted congratulating those who were in the process of "debating" me.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-13   1:24:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#341. To: TwentyTwelve (#337)

What was in the video I posted that caused you to go off the loose end?

I asked you several times if you thought Hindus were satanic, since the video you posted tried to tie Hinduism in with the satanic goat. I didn't bother watching the video past that, since it was obvious it was nothing but pure unadulterated bullshit.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-13   1:26:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#342. To: TwentyTwelve (#337)

And yeah, I forgot about those earlier posts where I asked you that. You never responded to any of them.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-13   1:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#343. To: TwentyTwelve, FormerLurker (#333)

At the risk of offending FL this is simply getting bizarre.

The thread began with the suggestion/assertion which stated that Madonna's performance was filled with occult/satanic references. The author drew a set of conclusions with which one might agree or disagree and threw in a few unsupported assertions that were not backed by references.

This is all well and good and is fodder for discussion and analysis. However, for whatever reason a couple of people appear to have, for whatever reason, reacted almost as though it were a personal attack against them for questioning their deity, Madonna. From there it has spiraled down to personal attacks and references to some of the more "excitable" elements of Fundamentalist Protestantism which were not part of the Superbowl Halftime Spectacle. Now what that has to do with Madonna or the occult references used in her performance eludes me. It is little more than a strawman and a diversion.

So, because I dare to support a point of view a couple of people disagree with, and share some of my reasoning, I have somehow become a purveyor of the evil doctrine of logic. Or is because I use logic that I am somehow "putting on airs" for daring to try to use sound reasoning?

This is rapidly begin to take the shape of another appendix for "Alice Through The Looking Glass".

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-13   1:31:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#344. To: FormerLurker (#335)

Wow. Are you comparing Original_Intent to GW Bush?

Did Dubya post on LP? I said palo would praise those who posted posts favorable of Bush. Go back and read what I wrote, not what you imagined I wrote.

Advice you could stand to take yourself vis a vis #234 & #235 since you construed and twisted my comment into unrecognizable form and then attacked the distorted representation.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-13   1:34:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#345. To: FormerLurker (#340)

I am confused as to why you have been attacking me with so many posts directed at me specifically.

I simply responded to the ones who posted to me, or those you posted congratulating those who were in the process of "debating" me.

Not true.

See posts:

#24, #160, #272, #273, #275

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2012-02-13   1:37:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#346. To: Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve (#343) (Edited)

If you think the following image is a "fair and balanced" analysis, you're insane.

It's nothing more than sensationalistic bullshit, which you are usually acutely aware of and dismiss.

Yet here, you found it fun and entertaining to "go with the flow" rather than fight for truth, or at least try to seek it out.

It started by me responding to some of the more whacked out assertions made, and questioning your motives for siding with such wild-eyed fanatical bullshit, not in those words, but in similar meaning.

You have been toying with this thread for days, each time, getting a bit more personal with your insults and comments.

Like I said earlier, fuck you.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-13   1:38:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#347. To: FormerLurker (#338)

So, is it your contention then that anyone who disagrees with your opinion that Madonna is a poor oppressed minority is a follower of Benny Hinn?

I think that most if not all of those who see satan everywhere they look are disturbed individuals for one, and that they most likely are fundamentalist Christians who have been indoctrinated in fear since leaving the hospital delivery room.

And oh yeah, then there are those who know better yet decide to play games because they think themselves "smart" and are doing it simply for entertainment purposes. It's called "trolling".

And so of course it never enters your reasoning or assumptions that there could be more than those two alternatives?

Did it even occur to you that there might be other viewpoints?

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-13   1:38:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#348. To: Original_Intent (#344)

Advice you could stand to take yourself vis a vis #234 & #235 since you construed and twisted my comment into unrecognizable form and then attacked the distorted representation.

You commented that you saw the word "Lights" as a tribute to Lucifer.

It wasn't clear WHERE you saw that word, and in the end, you said that it was in MY post that you saw it.

So basically you are claiming that I was "giving tribute" to Lucifer because I used the fucking word "lights".

You are one sick puppy OI.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-13   1:40:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#349. To: FormerLurker (#346)

If you think the following image is a "fair and balanced" analysis, you're insane.

The author is making a comparison. It is his interpretation of what she is representing. You can agree or disagree with the interpretation but I think you are reading a malice into it that is not there. The comparison is the authors assertion of evidence for his interpretation. If you disagree with it then fine. Personally I'm neutral on it since I have not studied the subject enough. What I know of ancient religions and beliefs comes from my interest in archaeology and following the lunacy of the Bilderberger/NWO crowd since they, by all appearances, are invested in these occult belief systems.

Personally, I think you are overreacting.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-13   1:44:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#350. To: Original_Intent, FormerLurker (#343)

The thread began with the suggestion/assertion which stated that Madonna's performance was filled with occult/satanic references.

Madonna's performance WAS filled with occult/satanic references.

No one can dispute this.

What is in dispute is whether this was the underlying reason for her Superbowl performance. There is really no way to know for sure unless someone can ask Madonna this question and why she chose such a controversial subject.

Perhaps FormerLurker can find this out as he seems "close" to her.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2012-02-13   1:44:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#351. To: Original_Intent (#347)

Did it even occur to you that there might be other viewpoints?

This thread has swung back and forth from bizzaro images posted in an attempt to smear a performer for whatever reason or motive, to me questioning WHY people who I USED to view as rational are BELIEVING such wild-eyed crap.

Interspersed in there was some religious theological discussions, but time and time again, you'd come back with even more psuedo-logical BS to drag the thread back to "SHE A SATANIST, IS SHE YOUR GODDESS" bullshit against me.

So yeah, you know what you're doing OI.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-13   1:46:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#352. To: TwentyTwelve (#350)

Madonna's performance WAS filled with occult/satanic references.

Name me ONE.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-13   1:47:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#353. To: TwentyTwelve, All (#20)

From the "Look at her arms" part of that video you posted, where they compare it to a Hindu painting, then show an image of the satanic goat, are they trying to tie Hinduism in with satanism?

So when are you going to respond to this question?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-13   1:49:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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