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Title: Madonna’s NFL Half Time Show - Satanic Ritual
Source: Hollywood Illuminati
URL Source: http://hollywoodilluminati.com/2012 ... sguised-in-the-half-time-show/
Published: Feb 6, 2012
Author: Nicolas Duplessis
Post Date: 2012-02-08 08:52:04 by Bill D Berger
Keywords: None
Views: 11449
Comments: 418

Madonna’s NFL Satanic Ritual disguised as Church Music. by Nicolas Duplessis.

(The Illuminati always has to do its rituals between the New Moon and Full Moon.  The Full Moon is in 2 more days, so it is their time for rituals  & what better place than a Half Time show with millions of people?)
 
 
On top of us having a nearly full moon cycle tonight, on this second month, of day five in the year 2012, this moon cycle is very important to the Illuminati because any ritual that is done, will be full force because the power of the ritual will grow with the moon.

While the full moon starts in 48 more hours, it is very important for the Illuminati Ritual to happen before that due date.
 (Madonna opened with a Roman Theme but she didnt have a Roman Helmet, instead she had a ritual Lucifer horned crown of gold!)
(Red. Black. Gold. All of the colors used in Madonna’s Half Time Show)
 
 (Madonna used Satan horns for her opening act)
 
Madonna comes out, and her first act is a Roman Theme Show to her track “Vogue”.  But while it was a Roman costume theme, one couldn’t help but notice the two Satan horns coming up from Madonna’s head gear.  The Romans didn’t wear helmets with horns nor can this be found in Egypt head gear being that she did mix in some Egyptian ritual dancing.

 
 
 
Also at the top of the show, the wings that appear to be feathers of an angel are really webbed wings, which are associated with Lucifer photos from the Roman Era.
 
We see the male dancers doing acrobats for her track “Music”. During this chaos, there were two male dancers that got down on all fours, like the Muslims do when they pray to Allah.  Most cheerleading teams, do not actually assume a prostration position when building a pyramid but in Satanic Rituals, it is believed that Lucifer or the devil would assume a prostration position and the witches would line up and kiss his anus as a sign of respect.  We not only saw a classic Lucifer Ritual Pose but we also saw the quick building of a pyramid by her dancers.

(The male dancers in Act 2 (Track: Music) made a quick pyramid and Madonna slithered through the pyramid like a snake. The pyramid in the photo is Satan’s Pyramid and an occult seal used to invoke Satan during rituals.)
 
In Freemason Bibles, which is basically the King James Bible, except on page 33 of the Freemason Bible, it informs the reader that Lucifer is the real God & that Lucifer is the real Jesus and also according to this Freemason Bible, it is indeed Lucifer that is the carrier of light.  So, these people are masters at double talk and hiding their worship of Satan behind Christianity.
 
So, we see her final Act and she comes out in a black Sabbath witch’s gown, singing to her track “Like A Prayer” but yet this supposedly religious song doesn’t use the word Jesus, so who was she praying to when she dropped to her knees?
 
 
(Light sticks are used in Illuminati Rituals, to worship Lucifer, and they are often held by the observers of the rituals, as a way of participating. )
 
 According to Lucifer Freemason Texts, Lucifer is the lord of light and to worship Lucifer one would wear a black robe (like Madonna had on) and by her having the entire stadium participate with her in this ritual by holding up lights to her ritual, she basically did a classic musician performance of casting a spell on her audience and fooling them into Satanic Worship.
 
Dont forget that before Madonna put on the black robe, her dancers were in red, gold & black outfits and some were in red & white, which are colors that one uses to worship Lucifer.  The entire show had a lucifer color theme.

(To worship Lucifer, one must wear mostly red and black. Madonna had on a black robe but the entire color scheme of the entire show was blk/red if you take into account her dancers starting in the second part of Act 2 with the cheer-leader rappers)
 
During the last act “Like a Prayer” we not only see lights that are made to look like Hell Fire & sometimes the beams of light even take on a giant, quick pyramid formation but also during this supposedly ”church song” she ends the show by dropping into the ground.  This was a Satanic Ritual.
 
What did this ritual mean? This Satanic Ritual, is a classic petition to Satan, in an effort to call for chaos out of order.  While many people think that the Illuminati wants order out of chaos, that is simply not true.

 
According to Illuminati text, the Fallen One, desires Chaos out of Order. They will take what is orderly and make it chaotic!
 
 So, this ritual, done by madonna along with millions of Americans, spells wars, disease and a crashing of the Old World Order.  While the lights at the end said “World Peace”-it doesnt matter what you see but instead you have to look at what they do and what is their definition of “peace”.
 
This is Hollywood and this is what Hollywood does best.
(Photo from Infowars.com)
 
Satanist Madonna & her Satanic Ritual NFL Show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lypnhDeQE8&feature=player_embedded#!
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#118. To: Dakmar (#116) (Edited)

One of my favorites by Black Sabbath

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It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-02-08   20:53:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: All (#118)
(Edited)

"treating people like pawns in chess, wait till their judgement day comes"

Ozzy, talking about war of the elite in the song above.

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-02-08   20:57:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Buzzard (#100) (Edited)

I strongly suggest you listen to "War Pigs" by Black Sabbath and you will clearly see their distaste for the evils of war and that God is going to judge the rulers poorly.... Great song!

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-02-08   21:00:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: FormerLurker (#105)

who is your god? because you and i are speaking apples and oranges. you are a non-believer in the God of the Bible, JESUS who said He was the Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last. we could just leave it at that. there's not much point in arguing any further. i doubt you and i will ever see eye to eye.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-02-08   21:06:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: intotheabyss, Buzzard (#120)

"After Forever" is my favorite Black Sabbath song. I posted a vid at 117, here's the lyrics:

Have you ever thought about your soul - can it be saved?
Or perhaps you think that when you're dead you just stay in your grave
Is God just a thought within your head or is he a part of you?
Is Christ just a name that you read in a book when you were in school?

When you think about death do you lose your breath or do you keep your cool?
Would you like to see the Pope on the end of a rope - do you think he's a fool?
Well I have seen the truth, yes I've seen the light and I've changed my ways
And I'll be prepared when you're lonely and scared at the end of our days

Could it be you're afraid of what your friends might say
If they knew you believe in God above?
They should realize before they criticize
that God is the only way to love

Is your mind so small that you have to fall
In with the pack wherever they run
Will you still sneer when death is near
And say they may as well worship the sun?

I think it was true it was people like you that crucified Christ
I think it is sad the opinion you had was the only one voiced
Will you be so sure when your day is near, say you don't believe?
You had the chance but you turned it down, now you can't retrieve

Perhaps you'll think before you say that God is dead and gone
Open your eyes, just realize that he's the one
The only one who can save you now from all this sin and hate
Or will you still jeer at all you hear? Yes! I think it's too late.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-02-08   21:08:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Dakmar (#122)

Great lyrics :)

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-02-08   21:22:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: intotheabyss (#123)

One would be hard pressed to find any evil intent, anyway.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-02-08   21:23:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Dakmar (#124)

One would be hard pressed to find any evil intent, anyway.

Yes, no Wordsworth or Earnest Hemingway but possitive lyrics non the less.

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-02-08   21:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: intotheabyss (#125)

I tried yelling a few Ezra Pound stanzas over a Melvins intro and only succeeded in breaking an end table.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-02-08   21:38:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#87)

Another random datum - Masonry, the Hebrews, and the Old Testament have one certain thing in common - they all originated, as far as they can be traced, in Egypt.

Two unanswered questions:

Where and when did Masrony originate? All we really know is that it is verrry old. I have seen assertions that it goes back to Atlantis.

Similarly where did the Hebrew People originate? We know of their coming out of Egypt but where did they come from before that?

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-08   21:42:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: CadetD (#103)

You are welcome, and thank you for the interesting link.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-08   22:09:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Dakmar, intotheabyss (#126)

I tried yelling a few Ezra Pound stanzas over a Melvins intro and only succeeded in breaking an end table.

That's what you get for pounding.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-08   22:11:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Original_Intent (#129) (Edited)

I tried yelling a few Ezra Pound stanzas over a Melvins intro and only succeeded in breaking an end table.

The Melvins, aren't they alien invaders from another world or are they preachers. I never can get it straight.

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-02-08   22:17:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#121)

who is your god?

The One(s) who created the Universe. Who is yours? A guy you read about in a book written thousands of years ago by people you personally deplore.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   22:45:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: intotheabyss (#104) (Edited)

Jesus himself said he was the son of God, and trust me he understood what the term son means. Jesus did not lie, he would have told us if he were the father.

True, if one is to believe the NT, which itself is of dubious origin. I was born and raised Roman Catholic so I do agree with you in that is what is actually the creed and core of Christianity, that Jesus was the SON of the Father.

Yet, we are told by some rather obsessed individuals that no, he was the Father Himself.

What it comes down to is ultra fanatical bible huggers believe whatever they wish to believe, and damn anyone who doesn't agree with them.

My belief is that the true Creator has nothing at all to do with those beliefs, and that those beliefs are simply the rantings of individuals who need to worship a man because they can't fathom what an entity who transverses space and time and who could create space and time itself would actually be like.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   22:54:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: intotheabyss (#112)

it's demonic and it's one of the jooos black majic book

Nope. It's supposedly the "unwritten book" of the Jewish faith, where adhering to its teachings will bring a person closer to God. In fact, in various Christian beliefs there is a notion of a "Guardian Angel".

That Guardian Angel is the part of a person's soul which is actually in the other realm, call it heaven if you wish. It is the part of the soul that is in contact with the Divine.

The ultimate goal of a Kabbalist is to make contact with that higher self, the Holy Guardian Angel.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   23:00:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Original_Intent (#127)

Similarly where did the Hebrew People originate? We know of their coming out of Egypt but

Southern Yemen. And they did not speak Hebrew, which was yet to form.

Arab folk history from ancient times attribute the S Yemen Jews as the domesticators (sp) of the camel.

And OI, as you know, these statements are made in the provocative mode, because at these distances in pre-history, any affirmative statement is provocative.

Anyway I think I just made up that grammer.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-02-08   23:15:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: tom007 (#134)

Anyway I think I just made up that grammer.

Well just don't let Gamma' hear you taking the name of grammar in vein like that.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-08   23:20:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: FormerLurker (#132)

My belief is that the true Creator has nothing at all to do with those beliefs, and that those beliefs are simply the rantings of individuals who need to worship a man because they can't fathom what an entity who transverses space and time and who could create space and time itself would actually be like.

I respect your beliefs, but when I read that he fed 5000 with just a little bit of food and that he made the blind see and all the other miracles that are backed up by the people who hated him (the Pharisees), who said that his father Lucifer gave him those powers. There were far too many witnesses to these miracles done by a man and the people who hated him did not dispute these "magic tricks".

So I have come to believe there is a lot more to it than "just some book". Mere mortal can not do the things that were reported by many that Jesus ( real name Yashua sp?) did.

Our creator sent a man he created hence "his son" to help guide us and he knew the demons (Cains seed) would kill him. His teachings are in line with the greatest minds man has had to offer on how to live life in a harmonious way that would lead to a utopia if people were willing to follow his teachings.

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-02-08   23:21:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Original_Intent (#135)

Yep bad all around.

I was talking about Gamma Rays, but nobody is going to believe me much, here, any way.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-02-08   23:23:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: FormerLurker (#133)

Nope. It's supposedly the "unwritten book" of the Jewish faith, where adhering to its teachings will bring a person closer to God. In fact, in various Christian beliefs there is a notion of a "Guardian Angel".

The researchers that have read the other "holy" books of the jooos like the Talmud say that the Kabbal is a demonic book. This is a fairly extensive group of people who back this up. Stan Monteith, Texe Marrs, Rev. Ted Pike.... I could go on and on....

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-02-08   23:24:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: CadetD, Original_Intent (#103) (Edited)

So the author of your link equates Egyptian mythology with satanism, eh? I suppose to a hard core "christian", anything other than bible related stuff is "satanic".

What is also absurd is his equating the "High Priestess" of the Tarot deck with Aleister Crowley, since Crowley did not invent the Tarot deck. Regardless, the Tarot deck did not exist in the days of the Egyptians.

Oh, and I was right about the Isis resemblence apparently. Her headdress was not similar to a horned devil, it was similar to a headdress worn by Isis in Egyptian lore, who was not an evil entity, but a person who could be equated to the Mother Mary in Christian lore.

In fact, it has been claimed that the Christian notion of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost derives from the Egyptian notion of Osirus, Horus, and Isis. And oh yeah, the "mystery" of the Holy Ghost is that it is the female aspect of God.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   23:27:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: intotheabyss (#138)

This is a fairly extensive group of people who back this up. Stan Monteith, Texe Marrs, Rev. Ted Pike.... I could go on and on....

The people you list, with the exception of Texe Marrs, I have never heard of.

What I know of Marrs is that he appears to be a lunatic and a deceiver of the highest order. He may in fact be a true satanist.

Here's a link if you care to find out for yourself what the Kabbalah is about.

Kabbalah

People can claim whatever they wish to claim. In other words, some TV or radio personality could claim that the US Constitution is actually a demonic manifesto, but would anyone in their right mind believe them?

Some people claim that Ron Paul is a nazi and a racist, but does that make it true?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   23:33:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: intotheabyss (#138)

The thing about Marrs is that like many other deceivers, he mixes a bit of truth in with his own flavor of deceipt. So sure, like some people say about Alex Jones, he provides a bit of truth in what's called "limited hangout", then spins some tales of his own and since he's told SOME degree of truth, people think EVERYTHING he says from that point on is ALSO true.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   23:37:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: intotheabyss, Original_Intent (#138) (Edited)

And of course, the Kabbalah more than likely is a Jewish extension of even earlier "mysteries" taught in eastern mystery schools, which may date back to Sumeria or earlier.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   23:41:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: FormerLurker (#141)

I realize I am wasting my time and yours sorry. It won't happen again

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-02-08   23:42:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: intotheabyss (#138) (Edited)

The researchers that have read the other "holy" books of the jooos

Did you know that the Torah, which consists of the first five books of the Old Testament, is actually the holiest of Jewish books?

I don't give any credence to the Talmud, it is just the rantings of various rabbis. The Torah however is said to contain the mysteries of the Universe, hidden by coded Hebrew which can be deciphered using a profound understanding of Gematria.

I don't read or understand ancient Hebrew nor am I familiar with Gematria beyond a rudimentary understanding of it, so I couldn't tell you one way or the other if it's indeed true.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   23:50:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: intotheabyss (#143)

I realize I am wasting my time and yours sorry. It won't happen again

I'm sorry, I thought we were having an interesting discussion.

I guess I won't let that happen again either since you feel that way.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   23:52:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: intotheabyss (#136)

Mere mortal can not do the things that were reported by many that Jesus ( real name Yashua sp?) did.

Were you there? Is everything written by the jooos true? Did Moses really part the Red Sea, or did the joooos lie about it?

His teachings are in line with the greatest minds man has had to offer on how to live life in a harmonious way that would lead to a utopia if people were willing to follow his teachings.

Yeah, just look at all the good that the European christians performed, such as the gouging out of human body parts, burning people alive, gruesome mutilations, fear and loathing, war, stuff like that.

Look at the great stuff they did when they came to America, the rape, genocide, and extermination of the Native Americans, the lynchings, the wars, yep, highly enlightened stuff that is.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-09   0:04:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: FormerLurker (#107)

“The Superbowl is kind of like the Holy of Holies in America. I’ll come at halfway of the “church experience” and I’m gonna have to deliver a sermon. It’ll have to be very impactful.”

Imagine my shock when I found out you lied and twisted what was said. She said the SUPERBOWL is like the "Holy of Holies" in America, sure, but she was speaking about the game itself.

Imagine my shock when you lied and twisted what was COPIED FROM THE TEXT. The box is black so sorry, I can't watch it at the moment. My computer was barely moving yesterday. I have come back to delete windows to see if I could make it go faster, and ran across this bit on the Essenes I found of interest:

".....Who is Hiram Abiff? Pg 108
“…in the days of Josephus, the Essenes worked a secret Initiation Rite of four degrees, and though regarded as good Jews, nevertheless prayed to the Sun just before the dawn as if invoking him to rise. Surely this fact is most significant and suggests that in the Essenes we have at least one of the links by which the old Adonis Cult, cleansed and purified, was passed on to the Roman Colleges of Architects, and so, via the Mediaeval Comacine Masons to us.”

Who is Hiram Abiff? Pg 133-134
We have learnt undoubtedly there were certain secret rites taking place in the days of Ezekiel, and shall learn that in the time of Josephus the Essenes were a sect with elaborate initiatory rites, penal oaths, and so forth, whose obligation was strikingly like the charge given in the first degree in masonry. Included in their rites was a preliminary baptism with water, a special regalia, a sort of sacramental meal, and, above all, prayers to the sun which, though alien to the orthodox Jewish faith, were an integral part of the ceremonies connected with the death of Tammuz.”

Who is Hiram Abiff? Pg 138
“The Jews, like the nations around them, had a mystery system at the beginning of the Christian era. This consisted of the four degrees of the Essenes…”

Who is Hiram Abiff? Pg 140
“…the Essenes were really a reformed version of the old Tammuz cult, and that they are a very probable link in the chain of the evolution of that cult into modern Speculative Freemasonry.”

Who is Hiram Abiff? Pg 142
“Now Diana, or Artemis of Ephesus, who was of course merely another form of Astarte, had an order of Priests who were either called Essenes or at any rate had a High Priest over them known by the title of Essen…It therefore seems probable that this Jewish secret society derives its name, not from a Hebrew word meaning the ‘Pail,’ as some have suggested, but from the name also applied to the Priests of the Great Mother at Ephesus, who like them were naturally celibates. The emblems of this goddess were the bee, the lion, the goat and the bear, and three of these are closely associated with Freemasonry.”

HOLY GRAIL & KABBALAH

www.thedyinggod.com/grail ......"

littleguyintheeye.wordpress.com/tag/tribe-of-dan/ [huge article...i've hardly touched it]

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-02-09   5:14:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: FormerLurker (#140)

People can claim whatever they wish to claim. In other words, some TV or radio personality could claim that the US Constitution is actually a demonic manifesto, but would anyone in their right mind believe them?

I would be the first to claim that, and no, most people in their "right" mind would not believe me.

Some people claim that Ron Paul is a nazi and a racist, but does that make it true?

I like Ron Paul, always have, but he does have an interesting family tree.

mylesohowe.wordpress.com/tag/newt-gingrich/

One can't choose one's family, but what was that Patrick Henry said about wanting to know the truth, and preparing for it.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-02-09   5:23:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: FormerLurker (#139)

Oh, and I was right about the Isis resemblence apparently. Her headdress was not similar to a horned devil, it was similar to a headdress worn by Isis in Egyptian lore, who was not an evil entity, but a person who could be equated to the Mother Mary in Christian lore.

In fact, it has been claimed that the Christian notion of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost derives from the Egyptian notion of Osirus, Horus, and Isis. And oh yeah, the "mystery" of the Holy Ghost is that it is the female aspect of God.

in masonic/gnostic belief, maybe.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-02-09   5:27:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: FormerLurker (#146)

Yeah, just look at all the good that the European christians performed, such as the gouging out of human body parts, burning people alive, gruesome mutilations, fear and loathing, war, stuff like that.

Look at the great stuff they did when they came to America, the rape, genocide, and extermination of the Native Americans, the lynchings, the wars, yep, highly enlightened stuff that is.

were YOU there? how do you know they were CHRISTIANS that did this? you only have what MEN wrote. how do you know they were telling the truth anymore than the men who wrote the Bible?

Look at the First Virginia Charter. There was a MUSTARD SEED of Christians, and the rest were MERCHANTS looking to get rich. The world was NOT enlightened back then....it was in darkness, which is where it seems to be heading now with the demons in charge.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-02-09   5:33:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: FormerLurker (#131)

who is your god?

The One(s) who created the Universe. Who is yours? A guy you read about in a book written thousands of years ago by people you personally deplore.

How'd you find out about your god(s)? Read it in a book somewhere or did you create one to your liking? I do not deplore the ancient Israelites. They were Lost Sheep, as are a whole lot of us.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-02-09   5:39:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Original_Intent (#127)

Where and when did Masrony originate? All we really know is that it is verrry old. I have seen assertions that it goes back to Atlantis.

I don't know, but I think you see evidence of it in Ezekiel 8.

Similarly where did the Hebrew People originate? We know of their coming out of Egypt but where did they come from before that?

I'm not sure I know, I'll have to think on it. I do know God took Abraham out of Ur of the Chaldees [?]. I'm in a hurry, things to do and places to go, and trying to get back to intotheabyss to make a stab at trying to answer his question. I WILL think on it, though.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-02-09   5:48:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: FormerLurker (#95)

Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:

Hmmm.

randge  posted on  2012-02-09   7:50:20 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: FormerLurker (#145)

I'm sorry, I thought we were having an interesting discussion.

He was trying to convert you. You were trying to de-convert him (imo).

But it is evident that you have done some studying on this.

However, most satanists do not believe in a literal satan. Others do, but some equate ancient egyptian, or sumerian, or other deities to this "satan".

Very few take their ideas of satan from the bible. The ones that do are the ones that make the news. If the church says satanists are evil, then they will be evil, because that is what everyone expects them to be. They don't know any better. All they know is they hate the church.

There is no such thing as being The True Satanist, because it's an individual path, not a group path, and individuals vary in their beliefs.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-02-09   8:13:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: PSUSA2 (#154)

In other words, you believe in a mish-mosh, just like everyone else.

randge  posted on  2012-02-09   8:16:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: intotheabyss (#111) (Edited)

The Jews knew He was claiming to be God the Father.

Then explain to me who he was praying to on Saturday and who he talked to when they crucified him.

I finally had to shut down my computer and reboot in order to answer this, which is one of the most important questions anyone could ask. I can't answer it fully at the moment, because I am pressed for time and working against things I can't explain, but hope the following will help you to see, until I can tackle this in depth. Thanks for bringing it up.

My first thought was a great article I read once [I'll get back to that later] and this passage [as if Isaiah 9:6 didn't say it all :} ]: "Jesus EMPTIED Himself...."

Jesus as Man was speaking to Jesus the Father [read on and hopefully you will understand]. When they crucified Him, He was fulfilling Psalm 22: http://kingjbible.com/psalms/22.htm .

"For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily" (Colossians 2:9).

The fact that Jesus is God is as firmly established in Scripture as the fact that God is one. [ see bible.cc/mark/12-29.htm ]. The Bible teaches that Jesus is fully God and fully man. ....

The Old Testament Testifies That Jesus Is God

1. Isaiah 9:6 is one of the most powerful proofs that Jesus is God: "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father The Prince of Peace." The terms child and son refer to the Incarnation or manifestation of "The mighty God" and "The everlasting Father."

2. Isaiah prophesied that the Messiah would be called Immanuel, that is, God with us (Isaiah 7:14 Matthew 1:22-23). .......

Jesus has a dual nature. He is both Spirit and flesh, God and man, Father and Son. On His human side He is the Son of man; on His divine side He is the Son of God and is the Father dwelling in flesh. .....

Philippians 2: 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.......

American Standard Version

but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men; bible.cc/philippians/2-7.htm / http://kingjbible.com/philippians/2.htm

If you can get http://blueletterbible.org to work [I haven't been able to ever since they "improved" it several years ago], look at Isaiah 9:6, hit the "K" [I think] to the left of the verse, for TREASURY OF SCRIPTURE KNOWLEDGE, and study what's there: http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/isa/isa009.html

Part of why He was praying to the Father, imo, is that He was setting an example for us. Furthermore He spoke in parables, for a reason, and maybe He did this for the same reason [but I don't know]:

Matthew 13:9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

10And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. 12For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. 13Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

14And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

15For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

16But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. 17For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them. ....... http://kingjbible.com/matthew/13.htm

I hope this helps somewhat. I have places to go, but you have made me determine to expound on this subject, although I am not an expert on it, and I will learn more as I go along. Thank you!

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"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father The Prince of Peace."

p.s. I think there is a bit of a conspiracy in the KJB on that word "Wonderful"...elsewhere as well. Sometimes it is treated as an adjective in Isaiah 9:6, and it is not; it is one of His names. The KJB uses the word "secret" in place of "Wonderful" here:

bible.cc/judges/13-18.htm / http://kingjbible.com/judges/13.htm

Note the "Angel of the Lord" is speaking to the parents of Samson, who are DANites [or at least one of them was]. Note they worshipped Him. That "Angel" was the pre-incarnate Jesus, the same one who wrestled with Jacob, and the same one that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.

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edit:

And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God.

bible.cc/judges/13-22.htm

And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. bible.cc/exodus/33-20.htm

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. bible.cc/john/1-18.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-02-09   8:35:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#147)

There were 3 Jewish sects at the time of Jesus' life. They were the Pharisees, the Sadducees, and the Essenes. Those who lived in Nazareth were predominently Essene, and were called Nazerenes.

Out of the three sects, they were the ones who were the most spiritual, whereas the Sadducees were the elite ruling class, and the Pharisees the high priests and rabbis who followed the Talmud.

The Essenes forbade the consumption of animal flesh, and were against slavery and animal sacrifice. They possessed spiritual knowledge well beyond that known by the other sects, and led monastic lifestyles.

Your smearing of them tells me a lot about what you're all about.

Thing is, Jesus was most likely an Essene, since not only did he live where the Essenes were the predominent sect, but his message of love and forgiveness is that of the Essenes, not the other two sects. The others were war like and participated in animal sacrifice, and had no concept of "love and forgiveness", rather they believed in "an eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth".


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-09   10:40:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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