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Title: Madonna’s NFL Half Time Show - Satanic Ritual
Source: Hollywood Illuminati
URL Source: http://hollywoodilluminati.com/2012 ... sguised-in-the-half-time-show/
Published: Feb 6, 2012
Author: Nicolas Duplessis
Post Date: 2012-02-08 08:52:04 by Bill D Berger
Keywords: None
Views: 11576
Comments: 418

Madonna’s NFL Satanic Ritual disguised as Church Music. by Nicolas Duplessis.

(The Illuminati always has to do its rituals between the New Moon and Full Moon.  The Full Moon is in 2 more days, so it is their time for rituals  & what better place than a Half Time show with millions of people?)
 
 
On top of us having a nearly full moon cycle tonight, on this second month, of day five in the year 2012, this moon cycle is very important to the Illuminati because any ritual that is done, will be full force because the power of the ritual will grow with the moon.

While the full moon starts in 48 more hours, it is very important for the Illuminati Ritual to happen before that due date.
 (Madonna opened with a Roman Theme but she didnt have a Roman Helmet, instead she had a ritual Lucifer horned crown of gold!)
(Red. Black. Gold. All of the colors used in Madonna’s Half Time Show)
 
 (Madonna used Satan horns for her opening act)
 
Madonna comes out, and her first act is a Roman Theme Show to her track “Vogue”.  But while it was a Roman costume theme, one couldn’t help but notice the two Satan horns coming up from Madonna’s head gear.  The Romans didn’t wear helmets with horns nor can this be found in Egypt head gear being that she did mix in some Egyptian ritual dancing.

 
 
 
Also at the top of the show, the wings that appear to be feathers of an angel are really webbed wings, which are associated with Lucifer photos from the Roman Era.
 
We see the male dancers doing acrobats for her track “Music”. During this chaos, there were two male dancers that got down on all fours, like the Muslims do when they pray to Allah.  Most cheerleading teams, do not actually assume a prostration position when building a pyramid but in Satanic Rituals, it is believed that Lucifer or the devil would assume a prostration position and the witches would line up and kiss his anus as a sign of respect.  We not only saw a classic Lucifer Ritual Pose but we also saw the quick building of a pyramid by her dancers.

(The male dancers in Act 2 (Track: Music) made a quick pyramid and Madonna slithered through the pyramid like a snake. The pyramid in the photo is Satan’s Pyramid and an occult seal used to invoke Satan during rituals.)
 
In Freemason Bibles, which is basically the King James Bible, except on page 33 of the Freemason Bible, it informs the reader that Lucifer is the real God & that Lucifer is the real Jesus and also according to this Freemason Bible, it is indeed Lucifer that is the carrier of light.  So, these people are masters at double talk and hiding their worship of Satan behind Christianity.
 
So, we see her final Act and she comes out in a black Sabbath witch’s gown, singing to her track “Like A Prayer” but yet this supposedly religious song doesn’t use the word Jesus, so who was she praying to when she dropped to her knees?
 
 
(Light sticks are used in Illuminati Rituals, to worship Lucifer, and they are often held by the observers of the rituals, as a way of participating. )
 
 According to Lucifer Freemason Texts, Lucifer is the lord of light and to worship Lucifer one would wear a black robe (like Madonna had on) and by her having the entire stadium participate with her in this ritual by holding up lights to her ritual, she basically did a classic musician performance of casting a spell on her audience and fooling them into Satanic Worship.
 
Dont forget that before Madonna put on the black robe, her dancers were in red, gold & black outfits and some were in red & white, which are colors that one uses to worship Lucifer.  The entire show had a lucifer color theme.

(To worship Lucifer, one must wear mostly red and black. Madonna had on a black robe but the entire color scheme of the entire show was blk/red if you take into account her dancers starting in the second part of Act 2 with the cheer-leader rappers)
 
During the last act “Like a Prayer” we not only see lights that are made to look like Hell Fire & sometimes the beams of light even take on a giant, quick pyramid formation but also during this supposedly ”church song” she ends the show by dropping into the ground.  This was a Satanic Ritual.
 
What did this ritual mean? This Satanic Ritual, is a classic petition to Satan, in an effort to call for chaos out of order.  While many people think that the Illuminati wants order out of chaos, that is simply not true.

 
According to Illuminati text, the Fallen One, desires Chaos out of Order. They will take what is orderly and make it chaotic!
 
 So, this ritual, done by madonna along with millions of Americans, spells wars, disease and a crashing of the Old World Order.  While the lights at the end said “World Peace”-it doesnt matter what you see but instead you have to look at what they do and what is their definition of “peace”.
 
This is Hollywood and this is what Hollywood does best.
(Photo from Infowars.com)
 
Satanist Madonna & her Satanic Ritual NFL Show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lypnhDeQE8&feature=player_embedded#!
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#37. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#34)

never heard of them before today....this thread was about Madonna.

So you are admitting that you find it easier to go after the innocent than the guilty, and care nothing about those who DO blatently flaunt satanism in their music and on stage.

Gotcha.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   12:38:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#36)

There are millions of good Catholic people who revere Christ in the way they were taught, and I will give them credit for that, but don't call me a Catholic, please.

Every other form of Christianity is derived from those who were considered heretics, as they abadoned the teachings of the church and started their own belief system. So ok, you're a heretic then...

You see, labels are easy to toss around, as I'm sure you already know. Because a singer is extremely popular around the world, and performs at the super bowl halftime show, and performs some sexy dance while waving her arms around, well by gosh she MUST be satanic.

I'm sure if there IS a Jesus, he must be shaking his head in disbelief that there are those so indoctrinated in their systems of hate and blame, that they'd conjure up such an accusation.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   12:44:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: FormerLurker (#31)

oh no, that essene crap again?

MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT: CATHOLIC ... - Watch Unto Prayer
In The White Goddess, Robert Graves associated the Essenes with the apostate tribe of Dan, the tribe of Samson, the Nazarite who judged Israel: “I also suggest ... watch.pair.com/mystery-babylon.html

The Merovingian Dynasty: Satanic Bloodline of ... -

The Merovingians are the offspring of the tribe of Dan which intermarried ..... the Therapeutae of Alexandria and the Essenes of Qumran—apostate Jews who ... watch.pair.com/merovingian.html

The Lost Tribe of Dan....

..... who along with Ephraim, is not mentioned as being sealed by God.

".... 3. Is missing from the 144,000 during the Tribulation

And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. Of the tribe[s] of Juda... Reuben... Gad... Aser... Nepthalim... Manasses... Simeon... Levi... Issachar... Zabulon... Joseph... Benjamin were sealed... Revelation 7:4-8

4. Will worship a false god

They that swear by the sin of Samaria, and say, Thy god, O Dan, liveth; and, The manner of Beersheba liveth; even they shall fall, and never rise up again. Amos 8:11-14...."

THE LOST TRIBE OF DAN

THE EARLY JEWISH & CHRISTIAN VIEW OF THE IDENTITY OF THE ANTICHRIST

watch.pair.com/dan.html

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-02-08   12:45:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#33)

(Red. Black. Gold. All of the colors used in Madonna’s Half Time Show)

Uh huh. That satanic image you posted contains fire, not gold. So any image with fire must be satanic, eh?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   12:46:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: FormerLurker (#37)

never heard of them before today....this thread was about Madonna.

So you are admitting that you find it easier to go after the innocent than the guilty, and care nothing about those who DO blatently flaunt satanism in their music and on stage.

Gotcha.

are you serious?

I can't keep up with your nonsense on THIS thread! You know so much about them, why don't you start a thread?

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-02-08   12:46:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#39)

oh no, that essene crap again?

THE EARLY JEWISH & CHRISTIAN VIEW OF THE IDENTITY OF THE ANTICHRIST

You worship the anti-christ, Paul of Tarsus. By the way genius, the Jews don't accept or believe in the thought of an "anti- christ", since they don't accept or believe in "christ" to begin with...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   12:48:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: FormerLurker (#40)

So any image with fire must be satanic, eh

no.

bible.cc/jeremiah/23-29.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-02-08   12:48:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: FormerLurker (#42)

he Jews don't accept or believe in the thought of an "anti- christ", since they don't accept or believe in "christ" to begin with...

hey! you just defined the word antichrist.

bible.cc/1_john/2-22.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-02-08   12:50:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#33)

the upside down cross, another symbol for a "conquered Christ".

Uh huh, and that's another indication you know nothing at all about the history of Christianity, you simply cut and paste a whole lot of crapola from some extreme hard core born again websites.

The cross on the back of the Pope's chair is called the Cross of St. Peter, and has existed that way since 200 AD or so. It isn't till recent times that people have used it for satanic symbolism.

Cross of St. Peter


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   12:54:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#44) (Edited)

You worship a man, so you are anti-God. A man is not God.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   12:54:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#44)

And BTW, who actually WROTE those books you refer to all the time? Do you even know?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   12:58:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: FormerLurker (#32)

Simon Magus is another name for Paul of Tarsus...

I don't buy it. If Simon Magus is the founder of Gnosticism, it is a radically different view of the divine than is in any of the books of the NT, including Paul.

I think Magus was demonized because his sect lost in the political intrigue involved in the compilation of the NT. There were dozens of Gospels (e.g. Red Sea Scrolls), but the bureaucrats of both Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches -- VERY closely affiliated with the governments of the time -- only wanted writings and quotes that either supported the ruling class or at least did not obviously upset the status quo, except for the more subtle and symbolic quotes that would go over the heads of most bureaucrats.

Paul was of course, a scumbag, and a book burner. I appreciate the earlier link comparing Paul and the Essenes. I've joked that Jesus was Essene and not heard.

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PnbC  posted on  2012-02-08   13:02:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: FormerLurker (#35) (Edited)

Truly, I can see how and why this country is so fucked, and how somebody like Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich, or even Mittens Romney could win over an honest candidate with vision such as Ron Paul.

It is the massive brainwashing of the populace that takes control when it comes time to do the right thing, where they do the WRONG thing instead. That, and when there's outright fraud taking place in front of their eyes, they might complain a wee bit, but do absolutely nothing to correct it.

Instead, they bitch and moan about Madonna's superbowl performance, as if it affects them at all.

QFT.

I'll say this though: it's a hard program to beat. It took me years of trying to understand this christianity crap before I beat it. But it had to happen that way, otherwise the door would have been left open for me to go back into that crap. Now I know too much for that to happen.

Brainwashing is very effective, even to the point where people can totally ignore plain text. It's odd how that works, but it does, and I know that from my own experience. I used to gloss over things all the time, when I read the bible. But a part of it stuck in my mind and pushed me to go deeper. That is what broke the programming.

I don't fault anyone for being brainwashed. I fault them for not fighting it. They willfully submit to it.

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PSUSA2  posted on  2012-02-08   13:04:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#41)

You know so much about them, why don't you start a thread?

I was posting about them as an example of those who truly ARE satanic. They are NOT afraid to let themselves be known. You don't have to look at colors and arm movements to understand who they are.

Yet, you go after some woman who happens to be quite popular across the world, who if anything is probably closer to God than you'll ever be. Jealous of her perhaps?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   13:04:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: PnbC (#48)

I don't buy it. If Simon Magus is the founder of Gnosticism, it is a radically different view of the divine than is in any of the books of the NT, including Paul.

There are arguments pro and con related to the claim that they are one and the same person.

We can't really know for sure, since throughout history, tyrants burned massive amounts of books and texts and destroyed any evidence they could find which would have exposed the truth of what truly happened thousands of years ago that contradicts what they WANTED people to believe.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   13:13:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: PnbC (#48)

I appreciate the earlier link comparing Paul and the Essenes.

I found that link years ago, and upon reading up on it considerably, it appears to be the most factual account of how things truly were in the days of Jesus, and what he truly would have taught.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   13:15:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Bill D Berger (#0)

Symbolic Pics of the Month (02/12)

Vigilant Citizen – February 1, 2012

The first month of 2012 is over and boy did we see Illuminati symbolism across popular culture. Here’s the January edition of Symbolic Pics of the Month featuring Demi Lovato, Nikki Minaj, Beth Ditto, Dakota Fanning and a bunch of fashion shoots. Even Warren Buffett is in there.....

www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=42334

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-02-08   13:15:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Bill D Berger (#0)

The Illuminati does not exist, Madonna is over the hill, and Satanism died with Anton Le Vey, who was about as much of a Satanist as I am.

Serial killer psychopaths ruin families. Corporate psychopaths ruin societies -- Prof. Robert Hare

Turtle  posted on  2012-02-08   13:25:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#53)

www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=42334

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2012-02-08   13:26:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: PSUSA2 (#49)

I don't fault anyone for being brainwashed. I fault them for not fighting it. They willfully submit to it.

I don't think I've ever been brainwashed. I believed what I was told to believe when I was a young lad, but upon seeing obvious contradictions, and realizing that I was being lied to, I started to understand that those telling the lies weren't as holy as they claimed to be.

Learning of the horrendous tortures inflicted upon those accused of witchcraft, and before that those accused of the crime of heresy by the various Inquisitions, it wasn't a flash of brilliance that led me to see who the REAL satanists were, it was a matter of common sense.

Those who commit evil horrendous deeds and claim to be holy and blessed by God are evil and they are liars. I can not and will not believe a word they say.

Those who have given the modern world a religion founded upon such evil, and those who accept it, are equally guilty for not seeing it for what it is.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   13:26:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: TwentyTwelve (#55)

So 2012, you haven't answered my question. Is it your contention that Hindus are satanic and worship Lucifer?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   13:30:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Bill D Berger, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, FormerLurker, christine, all (#0)

The symbolism is interesting.

Her Headdress has clearly occultic, even Satanic, overtones.

Her Girdle/Belt is reminiscent of a Mason's Apron.

There are clearly symbolic overtones in her garb however what they are meant to symbolize and why remains an open question.

If I were to take a stab at it, it would be that she is mimicking "The Harlot of Babylon", and perhaps the High Priestess of the Temple of Set.

There is clearly an occultic thread which runs through, if not dominates, our self-styled planetary elite. One can see its workings in the operations of NASA as has been pointed out by Richard Hoagland, as well as the timing of crucial invents in world affairs.

While I do not share their particular superstitions what is important in observing their actions is that they DO grant these superstitions authority and it is a window into their mindset.

I find the dark overtones interesting in terms of ferreting out their mindset and hidden beliefs. Anyone who does not think that the secret societies who are attempting to dominate this planet do not have hidden and veiled beliefs, some of which are quite unwholesome, needs to look up the word "secret" in a good dictionary.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-08   13:31:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: CadetD (#58)

Ping. FYI.

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"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-08   13:33:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: PSUSA2 (#49)

Furthermore, one can see what a religion is all about by seeing what it accomplishes.

Maybe not all, but MOST Christian denominations' teachings revolve around fear, hatred of the "enemy", anger, and other such negative emotions.

I have read that pure evil feeds upon such emotions. Hence, a religion that provokes such emotions is by nature, evil. The same could be said for radical Islam, as well as Judaism.

On the other hand, if you view the Essene teachings, or those of Buddhists, it centers around mercy, compassion, and inner spirituality, leading to positive emotions such as joy, love, and hope.

I'll side with the positive emotions over the negative any day.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   13:38:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Original_Intent (#58)

So OI, are Hindus satanic?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   13:39:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: FormerLurker (#56)

I don't think I've ever been brainwashed. I believed what I was told to believe when I was a young lad, but upon seeing obvious contradictions, and realizing that I was being lied to, I started to understand that those telling the lies weren't as holy as they claimed to be.

There is a christian doctrine, that I took seriously, called the "great apostasy". You probably heard of it.

Those that committed those horrendous acts were the apostates, and those that didn't were the "elect". I believed that once it was all understood, by disregarding what the modern churches taught and trying to understand it on my own, then I was "elect".

But reading the bible without the blinders on disavowed me of that delusion.

You saw the lies, as I did. But instead of saying "fuck this shit", I went looking for the answers. I didn't set out to leave christianity, but that was the end result.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-02-08   13:39:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, CadetD (#53)

One of the things I find interesting in looking at this subject is the connection to Intelligence Agencies.

Aleister Crowley worked for British Intelligence.

Lt. Col. Aquino was in Army Intelligence.

Tying that to the Laurel Canyon series with its reflections on Satanistic Ritual and Sacrifice - as well as a multitude of connections to the the Intelligence Apparat the murky dark swirls become interesting - in a macabre way.

Other disparate elements that can be tied in is such as Robert Heinlein and his increasingly open references to Satanic lore in his last several books - beginning with "Stranger in a Strange Land". He was known to be a member of OTO and appears to have had connections to American Intelligence - he lived within a short drive of the CIA's former movie studio.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-08   13:40:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: FormerLurker (#60) (Edited)

Maybe not all, but MOST Christian denominations' teachings revolve around fear, hatred of the "enemy", anger, and other such negative emotions.

Then they (the minority churches) should remove the "christian" label.

Either you take the bible for what it is, or you don't. This picking and choosing cafeteria christianity crap doesn't work any more than the fundamentalist view(s).

I have read that pure evil feeds upon such emotions.

I don't believe anything is "pure evil", or "pure good". I can't think of one thing that is pure evil or good. Not even love fits that description.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-02-08   13:45:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Original_Intent (#58)

If I were to take a stab at it, it would be that she is mimicking "The Harlot of Babylon", and perhaps the High Priestess of the Temple of Set.

Uh huh. So do you have any images of a High Priestess of the Temple of Set to compare Madonna with?

Here's one, and I don't see any similarity. The woman is typically naked during these rituals from what I've read.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   13:46:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: FormerLurker (#61)

So OI, are Hindus satanic?

No, they are, from a Christian's perspective, Pagans. Hinduism has a lot of interesting references and its origins are lost in the distance of time, but there is nothing particularly evil about mainstream Hinduism, and in fact it is a very peaceful religion even if not all of its followers are, but then the same can be said of many mainstream religions. Christianity had its "Crusades", Islam Conquered North Africa and the Middle East, and on and on through many different beliefs and sects. Religion is not necessarily evil - however some belief systems practice degradation and worship those impulses and such which most decent people regard as evil. They are destructive of the spirit and promote beliefs which result in degenerate societies. There is however a dark and evil thread in what is called the Satanistic beliefs that run back through Babylon and to sects in Egypt as well.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-08   13:47:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: PSUSA2 (#64)

I don't believe anything is "pure evil", or "pure good". I can't think of one thing that is pure evil or good. Not even love fits that description.

Pure evil is actually disembodied negative energy, that has sentience of its own. Some might even call it satan.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   13:48:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Original_Intent (#66)

No, they are, from a Christian's perspective, Pagans. Hinduism has a lot of interesting references and its origins are lost in the distance of time, but there is nothing particularly evil about mainstream Hinduism

Well then, you should probably rethink what you wrote, since Madonna is using Hindu imagery, not Masonic or satanic.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   13:49:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: FormerLurker (#65)

I am familiar with the photo and its provenance - which was from "The Church of Satan" operation in L.A..

Sexuality, in a degraded and salacious form, is a frequent and recurring theme is much of Satanist practice.

However, I don't think that "Prime Time" is ready for the High Priestess to be symbolically taken on the altar at the Superbowl Halftime. That absence does not vitiate the obvious symbology that was present.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-08   13:54:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: FormerLurker (#67)

Pure evil is actually disembodied negative energy, that has sentience of its own. Some might even call it satan.

If that is your belief, then that is your belief.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-02-08   13:55:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: PSUSA2 (#62)

Those that committed those horrendous acts were the apostates, and those that didn't were the "elect".

Thing is, it was the religious leadership who ordered and approved of those acts.

The "flock" went along with it of course, lest they be on the receiving end of the various medieval torture devices in use at the time.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   13:55:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Original_Intent (#69)

However, I don't think that "Prime Time" is ready for the High Priestess to be symbolically taken on the altar at the Superbowl Halftime. That absence does not vitiate the obvious symbology that was present.

So Ben Hur was actually a satanic movie, since they wore similar outfits as Madonna?

Maybe Russel Crowe is a High Priest of Set, since he played in that movie Gladiator, eh?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   13:57:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Original_Intent (#69)

Again, can you find any examples of Masonic or satanic regalia which demonstrate any similarity with the outfit Madonna wore at her SuperBowl performance?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-08   13:59:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: FormerLurker (#68)

Well then, you should probably rethink what you wrote, since Madonna is using Hindu imagery, not Masonic or satanic.

References? Support?

I am not coming at this with any particular hostility - more as an exercise in analysis.

I am not particularly fond of Satanism and its offshoots because they are destructive and degenerate in practice and deed. That is why they offer forth such an effluvium of disrepute. From my point of view people are free to believe as they wish but that does not mean that there are not implications to a given belief system and consequences and actions which flow forth from it.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-08   14:00:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: FormerLurker (#71)

Maybe, to an extent.

But each is responsible for their own actions.

If someone ordered you to stretch someone on the rack, or to tie them to a post and burn them alive, and to do it over and over again, would you say "fuck you" and tear that assholes head off his fucking neck, and you yourself prepare to die, or would you cooperate?

I think a lot of them got off in doing these things. Even the flock would turn in their personal enemies for this treatment.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-02-08   14:03:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: FormerLurker (#73)

Again, can you find any examples of Masonic or satanic regalia which demonstrate any similarity with the outfit Madonna wore at her SuperBowl performance?

I am not writing a treatise.

The symbolism of her headdress is clearly fire and two horns. Those would appear to my eye symbolic of Occultic beliefs attached to Luciferian/Satanic belief systems. This is observation nothing more.

Ditto the resemblance of the Girdle/Belt to a Mason's Apron.

Symbology is an interesting study in and of itself and I do not claim any great expertise in it. Those are simply my observations of what her symbolic attire implies in my admittedly limited store of knowledge on the subject.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-08   14:05:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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