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Title: 20% of Republicans leaning to Obama!
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URL Source: http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/20-of-republicans-leaning-to-obama/
Published: Feb 9, 2012
Author: WND staff
Post Date: 2012-02-09 13:40:08 by Ada
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Views: 277
Comments: 11

2012 election looks like replay of 2008

Editor’s note: This is another in a series of “WND/WENZEL POLLS” conducted exclusively for WND by the public-opinion research and media consulting company Wenzel Strategies.

WASHINGTON – For critics of Barack Obama, 2012 has been portrayed as a do-or-die year for the country – an election that will determine whether America stays on the road to European-style socialism or veers right to reclaim its positions as the most vibrant economy in the world and the home of individual liberty. Ads by Google

But the 2012 election is looking more like a replay of 2008 than a do-over.

The latest WND/Wenzel Poll shows none of the current crop of Republican presidential candidates has solidified the base of the party, with one in five GOP voters leaning toward support of Obama in November.

The results are from the public-opinion research and media consulting company Wenzel Strategies. The poll was conducted by telephone Feb. 1-3, 2012, and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.44 percentage points.

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“The improvement in Obama’s prospects compared to the four remaining Republican challengers stems largely from two factors,” suggests pollster Fritz Wenzel. “First, Obama has largely avoided the political limelight while the GOP candidates savage each other with increasing intensity. Second, a smattering of evidence indicates that the economy is getting a little better, which helps the White House in the eyes of the voters. Secondly, the bloody fight for the Republican presidential nomination – by most estimations the nastiest GOP fight in memory – has really hurt the images of the challengers in the eyes of both Republicans and, especially, independent voters. For Republicans, each candidate carries with them now some taint that cannot be ignored.”

In every case except the match-up against Ron Paul, more than 20 percent of Republican voters said they are more likely to support Obama than the Republican challenger. And Ron Paul is close, as 19 percent of Republicans said they are more likely to support Obama than Paul.

Making the situation more bleak for opponents of Obama, independent voters are apparently quite put off with the Republican nomination fight. While polls last fall showed them leaning Republican by roughly a two-to-one margin, they are now either split evenly or favoring Obama.

“What must be particularly alarming to every Republican campaign regarding this nasty fight is that, even among those who say they think the nation is heading in the wrong direction, Obama still wins at least 20 percent support in head-to-head match-ups against the four remaining Republicans, and among those who said they were unsure about the overall direction of the nation, Obama wins by overwhelming percentages,” observes Wenzel.

Obama also has made tremendous inroads on enemy territory against each of the four Republicans, winning roughly 20 percent support among conservatives and even those who consider themselves to be very conservative. And, even against Mitt Romney, considered by many to be the most moderate of the GOP bunch, Obama defeats him by a large margin among moderate voters.

“Obama has masterfully positioned himself to lower expectations among the electorate in terms of economic progress, and has sat idly by while Republicans – mostly Romney and Newt Gingrich – destroy each other’s reputations,” said Wenzel. “While the Obama-Clinton nomination battle lasted well into the spring four years ago, it never got as nasty as this year’s fight between Romney and Gingrich, which now appears to be very personal in nature. Obama was able to recover nicely by the time the general election campaign rolled around. If either Romney or Gingrich wins the nomination – and that is a long way from being determined – it is doubtful either will recover to full strength by the fall campaign. This poll indicates that it is more the negativity of the Republican nomination fight and less the small improvement in the economy that has changed the national political landscape.”

Barack Obama

It does help Obama that the recent upbeat economic news appears to have buoyed spirit nationwide. One third of respondents – 34 percent — said Obama has exceeded expectations during his first term in office, while another 20 percent said he has performed as expected. Less than half – 47 percent – said he has fallen short of their expectations for him as president.

Among independents, 60 percent said Obama has either met or exceeded expectations. Among political moderates, 52 percent said the same thing.

Obama would defeat all of the four Republicans if the election were held today, but Ron Paul fares the best against the incumbent. Obama leads Paul, 44 percent to 40 percent, with 16 percent undecided.

“This is likely a reflection of discontent over Obama’s handling of the economy and, in particular, his outsized appetite for deficit spending,” observed Wenzel. “Paul has far and away offered the clearest and most serious plan to cut federal spending, and it appears to be recognized by these survey respondents.”

Romney also is within single digits of Obama, currently trailing, 48 percent to 41 percent. Obama leads both Gingrich and Rick Santorum Santorum by double-digits. Obama leads Gingrich, 50 percent to 36 percent, and Santorum, 49 percent to 34 percent.

Nearly one-quarter of Republicans abandon both Gingrich and Santorum, and Obama leads both men by big margins among independent voters.

See detailed results of survey questions:

Compared to how you expected him to perform as president back when he first was elected, would you say that he has exceeded your expectations or not?

If the election was today, and the candidates were Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Newt Gingrich, for whom would you vote?

If the election was today, and the candidates were Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Mitt Romney, for whom would you vote?

If the election was today, and the candidates were Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Ron Paul, for whom would you vote?

If the election was today, and the candidates were Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Rick Santorum, for whom would you vote?

If the election for president was today, would you vote for Democrat Barack Obama, would you consider voting for someone new, or would you definitely vote for someone new?

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

Limbaugh was just screeching that the 20% are the Ron Paul people

I sooooooooo love getting under that d'bag's skin :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-02-09   13:45:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Jethro Tull (#1) (Edited)

It takes a real stupid individual (Limbaugh) to believe any of Ron Paul's supporters would be supporters of the Mocha Messiah.

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-02-09   13:51:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: James Deffenbach (#2)

I'm certain Limbaugh knows full well that 20% doesn't come from the RP camp, he comment hissed from his pie hole which told me how very much we're annoying these Country Club piggies.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-02-09   14:07:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Jethro Tull (#3)

I'm certain Limbaugh knows full well that 20% doesn't come from the RP camp,

And whose supporters are the 19% that run over to Obummer from Ron Paul?


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Critter  posted on  2012-02-09   14:22:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Jethro Tull (#3)

Limbaugh, or anyone else who actually believes that ANY Ron Paul supporter would support Obama needs to have their meds adjusted and someone to watch over them 24/7. You know they ain't right.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-02-09   14:24:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Critter (#4)

And whose supporters are the 19% that run over to Obummer from Ron Paul?

No Ron Paul supporters are going to vote for the Kenyan.

Flintlock  posted on  2012-02-09   14:55:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: James Deffenbach, Jethro Tull (#2)

dimbulb has to put that forward after all moromney is his boss.


If either Moromney or Mammyjammyobammy win the November (s)election peoples with common sense will pray that December 21 2012 will indeed be the end of the world!

IRTorqued  posted on  2012-02-09   15:23:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ada (#0)

See detailed results of survey questions:

Compared to how you expected him to perform as president back when he first was elected, would you say that he has exceeded your expectations or not?

If the election was today, and the candidates were Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Newt Gingrich, for whom would you vote?

If the election was today, and the candidates were Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Mitt Romney, for whom would you vote?

If the election was today, and the candidates were Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Ron Paul, for whom would you vote?

If the election was today, and the candidates were Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Rick Santorum, for whom would you vote?

If the election for president was today, would you vote for Democrat Barack Obama, would you consider voting for someone new, or would you definitely vote for someone new?

I expect that this poll would be very different if the pollsters had included an option to vote for a third party, therefore, as far as I'm concerned, the poll is meaningless.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-02-09   16:19:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

Limbaugh was just screeching that the 20% are the Ron Paul people

I sooooooooo love getting under that d'bag's skin :)

I cannot express to you the enjoyment I will receive when I vote third party in the general election if Dr. Paul is not the nominee. Knowing that my vote and the votes of millions of other Paul supporters was the cause of the Republicans losing the presidency is going to be a great feeling. I can think of no better way to say fuck you to the Goldi-lox's, Gatlins, Grand Islands, yukon's, and other big government-loving, war mongering leftists that have taken over the Republican Party.

If those scum want a big government, warmongering leftist for president, they can damn well be happy with the one that's already in office. Since I don't believe there's a dime's of difference between them all I really don't give a shit one way or the other if Obama wins. Saying fuck you with my vote by voting 3rd party is much more important to me.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-02-09   16:30:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ada (#0)

Even if we don't expect a sizeable number of Republicans to pull the lever for Obama, this sort of statistic means a second Obama term.

Both Romney and Gingrich have large negatives -- although each has an army of supporters there's a very substantial number of Republicans who say they positively won't vote for them. Those Republicans could stay home or fritter their votes on Third Party candidates (and it is probable that at least one of the Republican contenders will jump to a third party ticket if he doesn't win the Republican nomination), and that's enough to swing the election to Obama.

Obama has his own negatives among Democrats, but a much smaller number who say they won't vote for him.

The major problem for Republicans is that they're not running in a vacuum. Voters can remember which Party was in the White House when the economy collapsed, which Party in Congress has sabotaged every proposal Obama has made, they remember Gingrich bringing the govt to a crashing halt in 1995 and they remember his adulteries, they remember Romney saying Detroit ought to go bankrupt, etc. Election Day will be Payback Day.

Shoonra  posted on  2012-02-09   17:13:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ada (#0)

“The improvement in Obama’s prospects compared to the four remaining Republican challengers stems largely from two factors,” suggests pollster Fritz Wenzel. “First, Obama has largely avoided the political limelight while the GOP candidates savage each other with increasing intensity. Second, a smattering of evidence indicates that the economy is getting a little better, which helps the White House in the eyes of the voters. Secondly, the bloody fight for the Republican presidential nomination – by most estimations the nastiest GOP fight in memory – has really hurt the images of the challengers in the eyes of both Republicans and, especially, independent voters. For Republicans, each candidate carries with them now some taint that cannot be ignored.”

The economy is getting a little better for who?

First, Second, Secondly...Secondly verse same as the first.

Taint? As opposed to what? Obama who murders American citizens -- teenagers even -- without a trial?

This isn't a Little League Softball match or an election for the title of Mr. Congeniality.

On the survey questions, No to the first and Ron Paul on the other five.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-02-10   20:56:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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