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Title: Excellent post on LP by jeremiad
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Published: Feb 18, 2012
Author: jeremiad
Post Date: 2012-02-18 23:54:57 by James Deffenbach
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#24. To: GunLovingGirl (#6)

It is the principle of the thing. If you allow government to tell you what you can or cannot do to yourself in one area, they will encroach into another. It is the nature of govt to expand, the nose under the tent principle.

Don't you get tired of the constant battle on so many political fronts? Of course you do. The reason, government must be constantly monitored, checked against basic principles, and guarded against their intrusion. You simply cannot allow them to tell you what you can or cannot do to yourself, or they will begin to take that "right" and stretch it to the point we are at now.

Tobacco, alcohol, salt, fatty foods, hydrogenated oil, coconut oil, pepper. All things that the govt has no business disallowing people to ingest, but they do. The only way to get them out of this intrusive mindset, is with the principle, "I OWN ME".

It is not my fault that society taxes others to pay for my bad choices. It is societies fault for intruding into that area that is my responsibility. It is my friends and relatives that can be emotionally hurt by my choices. So what?, government should not be in the business of protecting people from emotional hurt. If government uses "hurt" to family as a reason to control ME, what is the end game? Why cannot they disallow homosexuality, because it hurts family and friends? How about outlawing pre-marital sex? Pregnancy without insurance? Pregnancy outside of marriage? Too many children for government to handle? We must draw a line between govt and ourself, and the place to draw it is a principled on. I OWN ME, butt out and leave me alone.

jeremiad posted on 2012-02-17 19:39:46 ET Reply Trace

From the article: Ron Paul: Why Can’t We ‘Put Into Our Body Whatever We Want?’

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#15. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

Note the inability of LP's big government loving drug warriors to rebut his common sense comment.

That whole thread is an example of what I mean when I say that conservatives want to use the power of government to control everyone else while at the same time demanding that same government leave them alone.

If you read the comments of the drug warriors on that thread and then follow their comments on other threads, you will find them bitching and moaning about the government interfering in their lives.

As an aside, RLKK needs to just die already. He used to be a decent person until his advanced age made it impossible for him to perform his job and he was fired. Every since then he's been mad at the world and become an intolerant and authoritarian prick who hates everyone and everything and wants to get back at younger people by sending them off to war to be killed or maimed.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-02-19   10:36:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#16. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#15)

That whole thread is an example of what I mean when I say that conservatives want to use the power of government to control everyone else while at the same time demanding that same government leave them alone.

If you want the government to leave you alone, and most people with a bit of sense do, you have to recognize that others have the right to be left alone too. Doesn't matter if you agree with them or not so long as they are not hurting you. For those who say that the use of (some) drugs hurts people's friends and family members I ask how far would they like to extend the protection of the government towards the feelings of some folks. People make lots of choices that hurt their family and friends, most of which are not illegal. But the point is that the government needs to butt out until and unless someone harms others.

I say that as someone who doesn't use any drugs currently classified as illegal. I don't smoke pot but then I don't smoke anything and haven't in years because of my lungs (quit smoking almost 30 years ago I think). But I have no problem with people who do smoke pot or take whatever drug they want so long as they are not harming others. Of course if I knew someone, a family member or a friend, that I thought was going down the wrong path I would try my best to show them that they had made a bad choice. But assuming they are not little kids there is little you can do about it and people WILL make bad choices. We all do from time to time.

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