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Title: Prayers for Lod
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Published: Feb 19, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-02-19 22:32:03 by christine
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I just received news that Jim was taken to the hospital several days ago for a bleeding ulcer and is not doing well. They have him on a respirator and he's not lucid. That's all I know tonight.

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#26. To: wudidiz (#14)

Hey, what it. I was wondering if you had gone off round the twist as they say in England. Who was that masked man who was impersonating you?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-02-20   8:44:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: christine (#0)

oh no! i pray he will be alright.

if anyone could get cayenne to him, i wonder if it would help?

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"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-02-20   9:48:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: christine (#0)

healingtools.tripod.com/cayemerg.html also mentions alove vera, another great healer:

healingtools.tripod.com/aloemerg.html

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NATURAL NEWS
Aloe vera cures ulcers; IBS, Cohn's disease and Celiac disease Polysaccharides in the aloe vera plant have curative effects on numerous digestive disorders. naturalaloevera.angelfire.com/

is anyone here a friend of Mike Adams?...perhaps he knows of a remedy that might bring Lod around.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-02-20   10:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: X-15 (#16)

just beautiful...Texas heaven.

christine  posted on  2012-02-20   10:39:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: All (#29)

Jim is in ICU, but he can have visitors. I am going to go see him this afternoon. I will let him know about all of your well wishes and prayers.

christine  posted on  2012-02-20   11:10:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: christine (#30)

Thanks for the update, Christine.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2012-02-20   11:17:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: James Deffenbach (#26)

For the latest "gone off round the twist" drama update, check your private mail.


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2012-02-20   11:19:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: christine (#30)

I will let him know about all of your well wishes and prayers.

Thanks C.

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tom007  posted on  2012-02-20   12:29:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: christine (#30)

Jim is in ICU, but he can have visitors. I am going to go see him this afternoon. I will let him know about all of your well wishes and prayers.

My prayers are with him for a speedy recovery. Tell him to lay off that spicy TexMex food for awhile...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-20   12:46:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: FormerLurker (#34)

Tell him to lay off that spicy ....

gin and tonic !!!

"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul."

Mahatma Gandhi

noone222  posted on  2012-02-20   12:47:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: christine (#30)

I am going to go see him this afternoon. I will let him know about all of your well wishes and prayers.

Thanks from all of us !

"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul."

Mahatma Gandhi

noone222  posted on  2012-02-20   12:49:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: christine (#0) (Edited)

And oh yeah, once he gets out of the hospital, he should probably check out Kefir, it's really good in dealing with the nasty bugs that cause stomach ulcers.

Fermenting Milk May Help Ulcer Sufferers

At times, the very fact that ulcer sufferers are prescribed antibiotics may aggravate the condition, since antibiotics kill the GOOD bacteria in the gut thus causing further digestive problems.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-20   12:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: noone222 (#35)

gin and tonic !!!

That too... :)


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-20   12:53:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Lod (#0)

Get well soon, Lod.

Your presence here is missed.

Buzzard  posted on  2012-02-20   13:41:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: christine (#0)

My best to him for a quick recovery. I didn't even know he was ill.

purplerose  posted on  2012-02-20   14:08:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: christine (#0)

Lod is a great poster and a great person.

I wish him a full recovery.

formerly GJones.

InsideJob  posted on  2012-02-20   16:30:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: christine (#0)

God Speed Lod, may the Lord be with you always.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2012-02-20   17:45:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: All (#0)

I'm just back from visiting Jim. Here's what happened. Over the weekend, he was having severe abdominal pain, but waited until Mrs. L left for work on Monday to call his doctor who advised him to get to the ER immediately. They took Jim into surgery to repair a bleeding ulcer. Later that night or early Tuesday morning, he became extremely agitated and ripped out all of his lines perforating an artery in the process. Back to the OR where they discovered an even larger bleeding ulcer which they repaired and stopped the internal bleeding from the perforated artery. Now they have him heavily sedated, intubated, he has an IV central feed, hands wrapped in gauze, and body restrained. Jim was awake. I shared with him everyone's expressions of concern and care.

I don't know what his prognosis is. I do know he's suffering a lot and it's going to take a lot of inner strength and will on his part to recover.

christine  posted on  2012-02-20   17:56:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: christine (#43)

I hope that it is not as bad as it sounds. I don't know Jim personally except for what we have talked on here but I like him and sure hope that he overcomes this affliction.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-02-20   18:08:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: christine (#30)

tell him i hope he gets well soon & we are praying for him. you can make him laugh by letting him know he's probably the only poster here who everyone likes! :-) That is quite a feat

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-02-20   18:17:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: christine (#43)

it's going to take a lot of inner strength and will on his part to recover.

He's made of the right stuff to do it.

Flintlock  posted on  2012-02-20   18:28:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Artisan (#45)

good idea, Martin!

christine  posted on  2012-02-20   18:36:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: All (#47)

Texas tough, Jim

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-02-20   19:07:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: christine (#43)

Later that night or early Tuesday morning, he became extremely agitated and ripped out all of his lines perforating an artery in the process. Back to the OR where they discovered an even larger bleeding ulcer which they repaired and stopped the internal bleeding from the perforated artery.

That agitation may have saved his life.

Somehow I get the feeling he is going to be fine.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-02-20   19:24:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: FormerLurker, christine, Lod, all (#37)

Healing ulcers with potato juice


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2012-02-20   20:37:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: PSUSA2 (#49)

Somehow I get the feeling he is going to be fine.

JT said the same thing to me.

christine  posted on  2012-02-20   20:42:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: PSUSA2 (#49)

That agitation may have saved his life.

That's what I'm thinkin'.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2012-02-20   20:49:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Lod (#52)

Fight and win again Jim. And no more coffee for YOU, Sir!

Cornhuskerkid  posted on  2012-02-20   21:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: christine (#43)

Thanks for the update. I hope his condition improves soon so that he is not in pain.

May the Good Lord look well upon him

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-20   21:18:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Original_Intent (#54)

Thoughts and prayers for Lod and his family.

"What began in Russia will end in America."- 1930, Elder Ignatius of Harbin, Manchuria.

scooter  posted on  2012-02-20   21:20:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: You get better on me Lod (#55)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-02-20   21:39:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: christine (#43)

Thanks for taking our best wishes to Loddy. How is Mrs. L?

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-02-20   21:40:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: christine (#0)

get well soon lod! prayers and thoughts with you.

“Like it or not, everything is changing. The result will be the most wonderful experience in the history of man or the most horrible enslavement that you can imagine. Be active or abdicate. The future is in your hands.” 53; Milton William Cooper,

gengis gandhi  posted on  2012-02-20   21:47:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: christine (#0)

Please pass on my best to Lod as well, Christine. Thanks.

I think the members here collectively have a pretty good library of information about medical conditions, treatments and cures, so maybe that could be of help to Lod, if he wouldn't mind his condition being shared in more detail. Or maybe things are under control at this point. Either way, I hope he'll be back home soon.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-02-20   21:52:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Jethro Tull, Lod (#56)

Flintlock  posted on  2012-02-20   21:53:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: abraxas (#57)

as far as i know, Mrs. L is fine. i'm sure she's very concerned about Jim though. :(

christine  posted on  2012-02-20   22:22:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: James Deffenbach (#44)

Here's something that you and Lod will like~

christine  posted on  2012-02-21   0:49:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: christine (#43)

Video card for Lod:

MEDITATION RELAXING HEALING MUSIC

Give yourself whatever gifts of time and rest you need to feel better – and know that you're surrounded by caring thoughts and prayers and heartfelt wishes. Rest easy. Get well.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-02-21   9:25:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: christine (#62)

Awww, what a cute little Goffins cockatoo. They are the smallest cockatoos* and undoubtedly the sweetest.

*They are the smallest of the family (Cacatuidae) that most folks think of as cockatoos. Only recently the cockatiel has been reclassified as a cockatoo so that would make the cockatiel the smallest. And of course cockatiels are sweet too.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-02-21   9:25:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: christine (#43)

I am sincerely sorry to hear about Lod, christine. Loddy is an important presence on this forum and is a voice for common sense and patience. He's a great gentleman to talk to and I always appreciate his quiet sense of humor.

Prayers for him and Mrs. Lod.

randge  posted on  2012-02-21   9:34:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: All, Update on Jim...Yippee! The ventilator tube has been removed!! (#65)

Here is the report from Jay, Jim's long time friend...

Hi Christine,

Thank you for your concern for Jim. I know Jim appreciates you. Below is a copy of my blurb from this morning. Since

then I have learned that his breathing tube is or soon will be removed. What a great step, huh?

I went by the hospital this morning on the way to work. His BP is slightly improved and his blood oxygen level is back to 100. There was a nurse in the room when I got there and before I left a respiratory therapist also came in.

His eyes were open when I got there but staring at the ceiling. I leaned into his line of vision and his eyes came slowly into focus and remained so until I left. I talked to him and he again tried to respond which I discouraged. But I must have said something humorous at one point because he smiled back with his eyes and tried to form a smile with his lips which was impossible due to the breathing tube. When the respiratory tech came in it became crowded so I told him I was leaving but he strongly shook his head to indicate he didn't want me to leave. You can't believe how good that made me feel.

I asked him if he knew what had happened to him and he nodded yes. But I went further and said that he had had to have a second emergency surgery and that an even bigger bleeding ulcer had been discovered. I told him also that it had been touch and go during the surgery but that it now looks like he'd been through the worst of it and was starting to heal.

The nurse took a drop of blood from his finger to check his blood sugar and I asked if he'd been diagnosed with diabetes. She shook her head and said his blood sugar has to be tested because there is so much sugar in the I.V. food. That test was within normal limits. She also wanted to swab his mouth out but Jim wouldn't have it so she backed off. The respiratory tech then wanted to clean his breathing tube and his mouth and throat but he violently threw one of his legs over the other in a clear signal that he didn't want that done. He flat didn't want them to touch anywhere near his mouth. Understandable because at the very least that's got to be uncomfortable and is probably painful too.

But it has to be done so the nurse said they were going to sedate him for a bit to clean his mouth and tube. At that point I knew it was time to leave so I gave him a final squeeze, told him I love him and that I'd be back. If it works out I'll try to see him later today and also stop by on my way home. Hopefully next time I'll be able to make him understand that certain procedures need to be done to make him heal faster so that he could get out of the hospital sooner. That might give him some food for thought.

I also told him that John and Kim had come down Saturday and his face relaxed with a look of gratitude.

I'll keep you posted.

christine  posted on  2012-02-21   14:16:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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