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Title: The Satanic Elements of Scientology
Source: F.A.C.T Net
URL Source: http://www.factnet.org/node/1724
Published: Feb 24, 2012
Author: Geertz, Uwe Walter, Ph.D.
Post Date: 2012-02-24 21:10:35 by FormerLurker
Keywords: Scientology, Satanic Cults, Con Artists
Views: 664
Comments: 31

The Satanic Elements of Scientology

(Note: This came from a Internet document on Scientology called the Fable.)

There are two main types of Satanism, classical Satanism and neo-Satanism. Although Scientology contains many elements of neo-Satanism this story will focus on the classical elements.

In classical Satanism there are numerous elements that help to characterize it as a classical satanic church. One of those elements is the prediction of an ultimate conflict between God and God's representatives (pure good) and Lucifer and his representatives (pure evil). Classical Satanists identify with the devil or Antichrist and believe or act in opposition or with disgust to the values, ritual and symbols represented by the Christ figure and the values, ritual and symbols of traditional Christianity.

Classical Satanists often worship through use of reversal of traditional Christian symbols and ritual such as the black mass or by reversing crosses or other religious symbols. Classical Satanists often practice their beliefs among their own members and with the outside world by reversing truth with deception and lies.

Much biblical prophesy states that there is to be a final conflict for possession of the world between Lucifer and his representatives and God and God's representatives. Part of this conflict involves Satanists - before the final conflict - trying to possess, destroy or indelibly mark the souls of its members. Biblical prophesy also implies as the time of the final conflict approaches the forces of the Beast will place a number on their members to mark their own.

While classical Satanists often talk about this upcoming great spiritual war, a major part of their energy seems to be directed toward acquiring secular power in the forms of political and financial leverage and slave master-like control over the personal lives of those around them. Keeping the above elements in mind, read this story's examination of these elements for their parallels in Scientology and its origins.

Origins are important!

When you look at the origins of a group you look at its roots and the "signature" of its genetic inheritance. Even though the organizational roots may be hidden from sight the organization will always bear the type of "fruit" dictated by its "genetic" heritage and origins. The main origins of Scientology are revealed in Hubbard's imitation of Aleister Crowley and his "Ordo Templi Orientis" (OTO).

Aleister Crowley

Aleister Crowley is surely the most famous Satanist and black magician of the twentieth-century. It is impossible to arrive at an understanding of Scientology without taking into account L. Ron Hubbard's (Scientology's founder) extensive involvement with his religious and ideological mentor, Aleister Crowley.

Crowley is significant because his ideology and OTO organization is considered to be the root and mother cult responsible for birthing classical and neo-Satanism into the U.S. and western society.

Aleister Crowley (1875-1947) was reared in the Plymouth Brethren. Crowley had been introduced to magic in a book by A.E. Waite. His Cabalistic studies led him in 1898 to the OGD (another secret society.) Crowley rose quickly in the order, but was refused initiation to Adeptus Minor because of his moral turpitude (in this case homosexuality).

Crowley gained a reputation through the next two decades for breaking every conceivable moral law, from fornication to murder. Crowley went to Paris and was initiated by Mathers, which led to a split in the order in London. In 1904, Crowley received a "communication from the astral" with instructions for the establishment of a new order, which he set up in 1907. It was called the Astrum Argentinure (silver star).

In 1909, Crowley began publishing the Equinox to spread his ideas. Aleister Crowley called himself "The Great Beast", a reference to The New Testament's description of the Anti-Christ. In his masses he used cocaine, opium and hash.

While traveling in Sri Lanka (Ceylon), Crowley was taught yoga by his guru Ananda Metteya, alias Allan Bennett. Bennett had emigrated to the island in 1900 to become a Buddhist-monk. In 1904 Crowley stayed in Cairo and, during a seance, got a "revelation" by his guardian angel Aiwass (Aiwaz), which was communicated in the form of a prose poem entitled Liberal Vel Legis, i.e., The Book of Law. This became the textbook for the lodges of the Crowley Satanists.

In chapter two, it was Aiwass states: "We have nothing to do with the outcast and the unfit; let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings; stamp down the wretched and the weak; this is the law of the strong; this is our law and the joy of the world..;" When Crowley heard the voice, he looked over his shoulder and claims he saw his guardian angel, who appeared like a 30 years old, dark-skinned man, trim, and with a face like a tyrannical king, with eyes that could spoil everything.

John Symond reported this happening in his book about Aleister Crowley: "He had caught a glimpse of the Devil. Aiwass was the messenger of Hoor-Paar-Kraat, that is to say Set, the destroyer god, the brother and murderer of Osiris. Set was also called Sheraton, and Sheraton is the prototype of the Christian Satan". Crowley enthusiastically expounded the text of The Book of The Law when he performed masses. From the basic ideas of Satanism, he declared: "There are no other gods than man". Accordingly, man has the right to live after his own law, has the right to eat what he wants, has the right to think what he wants, to love whom he wants, to kill those who try to take these rights from him.

Aleister Crowley is known to have driven all of his mistresses and wives to hysteria, madness or divorce with his demands. John Symond's records in his introduction to 'The Confessions of Aleister Crowley' that Crowley's female scribe wrote in her magical' diary: "it was 'damn hard' to think of 'the rottenest kind of creature' as a Word." The "Word" was Crowley's self-assumed title as teacher of the Aeon. Crowley drove several of his disciples to suicide and humiliated others to madness. He is accused of infanticide, and never denied the charge. (Interested readers should consult his 'Confessions', a work of unmitigated egotism.)

The OTO connection

In the beginning of the 20th century, a manufacturer from Vienna Dr. Karl Kellner, and a German theosophist Dr. Franz Hertmann, founded a secret occult lodge which they named "Ordo Templi Orientis" (O.T.O.). Soon after they were joined by Theodore Reuss (1855-1923) who had connections with many lodges. It was he who led Rudolf Steiner, the founder of anthroposophy, into such a group.

Reuss, whose lodge-name was "Brother Merlin", contacted Aleister Crowley in 1912, and he became a member of this additional lodge receiving the name "Brother Baphomet". Baphomet, the symbol of the satanic goat, usually portrayed as a half-human, half-goat figure, of a goat head. It is often misinterpreted as a symbol of witchcraft in general. (It is used by Satanists, who worship the devil, but is not used by neo-Pagan witches, who do not worship the Devil.)

The origin of the name Baphomet is unclear. It may be a corruption of Mahomet (Mohammed). The English witchcraft historian Montague Summers suggested it was a combination of two Greek words, baphe and metis, meaning "absorption of knowledge." Baphomet has also been called the Goat of Mendes, the Black Goat and the Judas Goat.)

The O.T.O. developed its sexual rites quickly under Reuss and later broadened them under Crowley. Not long after, Crowley took over the leadership of the lodge. Like other secret lodges, members may not disclose their knowledge.

Hubbard and Crowley, the Parsons transition

Hubbard's fascination with Crowley's brand of religion goes back to when he was sixteen living in Washington, D.C. He got hold of the book by Aleister Crowley, called 'The Book of Law.'

He was very interested in several things that were the creation of what some people call the Moon Child. It was basically an attempt to create an miraculous conception - except by Satan rather than by God.

Another important Crowley principle was the creation of what was called embryo implants - of getting a satanic or demonic spirit to inhabit the body of a fetus. This would come about as a result of black- magic rituals which included the use of hypnosis, drugs and the dangerous and destructive practices.

Hubbard^Òs initial exposure to Crowley and the dark side of spirituality would get the opportunity to be further developed through his association with Jack Parsons. Jack Parsons was an acknowledged genius in the field of chemistry and a major figure in the first stirrings of rocket research at Cal Tech.

Parsons was involved with the U.S. branch of an occult secret society called the O.T.O. The ideological leader of this U.S. O.T.O. group was none other than Master Therion, the "Beast 666," or as the contemporary world press described him, "the wickedest man in the world," Aleister Crowley.

During the first World war Aleister Crowley had written a novel called the "Butterfly Net" later to be published under the name "Moonchild." This novel tells the story of a magical operation based on the theory that a particular type of spirit can be induced to incarnate in an unborn human embryo by surrounding the mother with the appropriate influences, carrying out certain rituals, etc.

Parsons wished to carry out such an operation designed to achieve in an unborn child, the incarnation of Babalon, an aspect of the great Mother goddess Nuit. He decided that Hubbard would make an ideal co-worker.

In order to obtain a woman prepared to bear this magical child, Parsons and Hubbard engaged themselves for eleven days in rituals. These do not seem to have produced any marked result until January 14, 1946 when, so Parsons said, Hubbard had a candle knocked out of his hand. Parsons went on to record saying that Hubbard called him and, "We observed a brownish yellow light about seven feet high. I brandished a Magical sword and it disappeared. Hubbard's right arm was paralyzed for the rest of the night."

All this work seemed to have its desired result and, on January 18, 1946 Parsons found a girl who was prepared to go through the required incantation rituals and become the mother of Babalon. Parsons was the High Priest and had sexual intercourse with the girl, while Hubbard, who was present, acted as a skryer, seer, or clairvoyant and described what was supposed to be happening on the astral plane.

Hubbard and Parsons were attempting the most reckless magical feat imaginable. They were trying to incarnate the Scarlet Woman described in the Book of Revelation as "Babylon the Great, the Mother of Harlot and Abominations of the Earth...drunken with the blood of saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus."

The foregoing ritual bears some resemblance to that of a girl who defected from Scientology in 1979. She had been coerced into a perverted act of sexual intercourse with a man fitting Hubbard's description in Hubbard's private quarters at the Fiefield Manor in Los Angeles. She describes the event as one where "my mind was being ripped away from me by force", while the man lay on her for one hour without erection and without ever saying a word.

Around the time of the Parsons connection it is documented that Hubbard used huge amounts of testosterone, stilbestrol (a female sex hormone). Taking the sex hormones were his solution to an impotence problem.

Another solution Hubbard attempted was to resort to "affirmations." The "Affirmations" were commands stated to himself as part of self-hypnosis.

Sometimes you will see in his hand written notes a statement of fact, like, "Yeah, I'm screwed up on sex." And then he'll come back with an affirmation: "You are sexually wonderful! Your sexual prowess has never before been equaled on the face of the Earth!"

Impotence was on Hubbard's mind a lot at that period. He wrote page after page about how "after Fern," he had been too afraid to go to a doctor with the clap. Fern was the girl in Miami who he claims gave gonorrhea to him. So he dosed himself with sulfur, and then he says the sulfur depressed his libido, and his solution to that was the testosterone and stilbestrol. "It so depressed my libido," he said, that he needed someone like Sara to stimulate him. (Sara was Sarah Northrup who later became Hubbard's mistress and wife.)

L. Ron Hubbard, Jr. speaks on his father

(From an interview with L Ron Hubbard Jr.)

Ron Jr. says that he remembers much of his childhood. He claims to recall, at six years, a vivid scene of his father performing an abortion ritual on his mother with a coat hanger.

Ron Hubbard Jr. remembers that when he was ten years old, his father, in an attempt to get his son in tune with his black magic worship, laced the young Hubbard's bubble gum with Phenobarbital. According to Ron Jr. drugs were an important part of Ron Jr.'s growing up, as his father believed that they were the best way to get closer to Satan--the Antichrist of black magic.

"In my father's private circle," Ron Jr. explains, "there were lots of mistresses. When I was younger, I participated in private orgies with him and three or four other women. His theory was that one has to open or crack a woman's soul in order for the satanic power to pour through it and into him. It got kind of far out, culminating in a variety of sex acts. Dad also had an incredibly violent temper. He was into S & M and would beat his mistresses and shoot them full of drugs."

When asked by a interviewer how this "soul-cracking" worked, L. Ron Hubbard, Jr. said, "The explanation is sort of long and complicated. The basic rationale is that there are some powers in this universe that are pretty strong.

"As an example, Hitler was involved in the same black magic and the same occult practices that my father was. The identical ones. Which, as I have said, stem clear back to before Egyptian times. It's a very secret thing. Very powerful and very workable and very dangerous.

Brainwashing is nothing compared to it. The proper term would be "soul cracking."

"It's like cracking open the soul, which then opens various doors to the power that exists, the satanic and demonic powers. Simply put, it's like a tunnel or an avenue or a doorway. Pulling that power into yourself through another person^×and using women, especially is incredibly insidious.

"It makes Dr. Fu Manchu look like a kindergarten student. It is the ultimate vampirism, the ultimate mind fuck. Instead of going for blood, you're going for their soul. And you take drugs in order to reach that state where you can, quite literally, like a psychic hammer, break their soul, and pull the power through."

"He designed his Scientology Operating Thetan techniques (Scientology's secret initiations) to do the same thing. But, of course, it takes a couple of hundred hours of auditing and mega thousands of dollars for the privilege of having your head turned into a glass Humpty Dumpty--- shattered into a million pieces. It may sound like incredible gibberish, but it made my father a fortune."

(The materials of the Operating Thetan techniques [the Fishman documents] are the reason for the raids mentioned earlier.)

"... Also I've got to complete this by saying that he thought of himself as the Beast 666 Incarnate." Interviewer: "The devil?" Ron Jr.: "Yes. Aleister Crowley thought of himself as such. And when Crowley died in 1947 my father then decided that he should wear the cloak of the beast; and become the most powerful being in the universe.

"Scientology is black magic that is spread out over a long time period. To perform black magic generally takes a few hours or at most; a few weeks. But in Scientology it is stretched out over a lifetime and so you don't see it. Black magic is the inner core of Scientology - and it is probably the only part of Scientology that really works.

"Also you've got to realize that my father did not worship Satan. He thought he was Satan. He was one with Satan. He had a direct pipeline of communication and power with him. My father wouldn't have worshipped anything, I mean. When you think you're the most powerful being in the universe, you have no respect for anything let alone worship.

"... The one super-secret sentence that Scientology is built on is: 'Do as thou wilt. That is the whole of the law.' It also comes from the black magic, from Aleister Crowley. It means that you are a law unto yourself, that you are above the law, that you create your own law. You are above any other human considerations."

The following is from a piece, written by L. Ron Hubbard, Jr. about his father in 1985 entitled "Philadelphia."

"We were in Philadelphia. It was November 1952. Dianetics was all but forgotten; Scientology, a new science,' had become the focus of attention. Every night, in the hotel, in preparation for the next day's lecture, he'd pace the floor, exhilarated by this or that passage from Aleister Crowley's writings. Just a month before, he had been in London, where he had finally been able to quench his thirst; to fill his cup with the true, raw, naked power of magic. The lust of centuries at his very fingertips.

"To stroke and taste the environs of the Great Beast, to fondle Crowley's books, papers, and memorabilia had filled him with pure ecstasy! In London he had acquired, at last, the final keys; enabling him to take his place upon the Throne of the Beast,' to which he firmly believed himself to be the rightful heir. The tech gushed forth and resulted in the Philadelphia Doctorate Course lectures."

It is perhaps coincidental that Hubbard, in the late fifties, set up his headquarters at Saint Hill Manor in England, less than half an hour's drive from what had been Aleister Crowley's former house in Tunbridge Wells.

Aleister Crowley's ideology and Scientology's ideology: a comparison

There are many similarities between Crowley's writings and the teachings of Hubbard. To name but a few of the most benign: there is the Dianetics' Time Track, in which every incident in a person's life is chronologically recorded in full, in the mind. This is quite similar to Crowley's Magical Memory. The Magical Memory is developed over time until "memories of childhood reawaken" which were previously forgotten, and memories of previous incarnations are recalled as well.

Hubbard gives examples in the Philadelphia Doctorate Course of several people remembering lives earlier on earth, some up to a million years ago. The similarity between the Magical Memory and Time Track is that they both can recall every past incident in a person's life, they both can recall incidents from past lives, and they both must be developed by certain techniques in order to make use of them.

Both Hubbard and Crowley consider it important to have the person recall his or her birth. "Having allowed the mind to return for some hundred times to the hour of birth, it should be encouraged to endeavor to penetrate beyond that period" {Crowley). "After twenty runs through birth, the patient experienced a recession of all somatics and 'unconsciousness' and aberrative content." "Thus there was no inhibition about looking earlier than birth for what Dianetics had begun to call basic-basic" (Hubbard).

In 1952, Hubbard recommended a work by black magician Aleister Crowley, which Hubbard called The Master Therion (published in 1929). This book was reprinted as Magick in Theory and Practice, and it also contains reference to the recollection of birth: "Having allowed the mind to return for some hundred times to the hour of birth, it should be encouraged to endeavor to penetrate beyond that period. If it be properly trained to run backwards, there will be little difficulty in doing this."

Both Hubbard and Crowley are avowedly anti-psychiatry. "Official psychoanalysis is therefore committed to upholding a fraud... psychoanalysts have misinterpreted life, and announced the absurdity that every human being is essentially an antisocial, criminal, and insane animal" (Crowley). Hubbard considered that psychiatry controlled most of society and was struggling to create a 1984 world.

Hubbard and Crowley both posit the ability of the person to leave his or her body at times. Crowley states that the way to learn to leave your body is to mock up a body like your own in front of your physical body. Eventually you will learn to leave your physical body with your "astral body" and travel and view at will without physical restrictions. Hubbard teaches the same, and his method of "exteriorization" is to tell the person to "have preclear mock up own body" which will send the person outside his body.

Both Crowley and Hubbard use an equilateral triangle pointing up in a circle as one of their group's symbols. Both use Volume 0 instead of Volume 1 to begin enumerating their works.

Crowley's notion of "the will": "The original definition of Scientology 8-8008 was the attainment of infinity by the reduction of the apparent infinity and power of the MEST [Matter, Energy, Space, Time] universe to a zero for himself, and the increase of the apparent zero of one's own universe to an infinity for oneself ... It can be seen that [the] infinity [symbol] stood upright makes the number eight" . Which is to say, the essential idea of Scientology is to raise the power of the individual's will or intention to "an infinity". This aim is held in common with all magical systems (Cavendish quotes Crowley "the Great Work is the raising of the whole man in perfect balance to the power of Infinity", The Magical Arts, p.5). The exercises used in the attempt to achieve this - especially those in The Creation of Human Ability (some of which were on the original "OT 5" course) - are ritual magic disguised as therapy.

Adopting the same stated purpose for Scientology as Crowley had for his Magic, Hubbard says, in a 1952 taped Scientology lecture: "Our whole activity tends to make an individual completely independent of any limitation."

In Crowley's Organization are several grade levels. To reach the Grade of Adeptus Exemptus "The Adept must prepare and publish a thesis setting forth His knowledge of the Universe, and his proposals for its welfare and progress. He will thus be known as the leader of a school of thought." It is apparent that Hubbard has fulfilled this requirement.

The "creative processing" of Hubbard's 1952 Philadelphia Doctorate Course derives substantially from the work of black magician Aleister Crowley. One could go on for quite some time listing the similarities between Crowley's and Hubbard's theories and writings, but for additional information the reader is encouraged to investigate for him or herself.

Scientology's symbols and the Satanic

The "S and double triangle" motif of Scientology's main symbol probably derives from the black magic use of the snake symbol (the "wise serpent" or Satan) combined with a deconstruction into two triangles of the Star of David (rather like the reverse ritual of hanging the Christian cross upside down to signify devil worship). This symbol - the magical hexagram - was used by Hubbard and Parsons during their attempts at incarnating the Antichrist in human form.

The RTC (a main Scientology corporation) symbol contains the Dianetics triangle, which is a common magical symbol, representing the door of the Cabala, the letter Daleth. Hubbard indeed assigned it to the Greek equivalent of Daleth, Delta. The triangle on its base is also the symbol of Set, the Egyptian god called by some "the destroyer of man", the male equivalent of Babalon. Indeed Crowley equates Set with Satan. Hubbard also used the "Daleth" triangle of the Egyptian destroyer-god Set as the Dianetic symbol.

Hubbard copied the back of Crowley's Tarot-cards, a distinctively marked cross, which he used for his main Scientology church cross and symbol.

The Sea Organization symbol of Scientology's elite paramilitary division is also interesting. The five pointed star, or pentacle is the most commonly known symbol of magical power. It is held between two thirteen-leaved laurels.

The theta symbol used by Scientology is the central symbol of Crowley's Ordo Templi Orientis, where it denotes "Thelma" or the will. Perhaps Hubbard's "thetan" is pronounced to match with a lisped "Satan"? He was, after all, wry in his humor and such a subtle perverse twist and deceit of lower initiates would be entirely congruent with classical Satanism.

Crowley's order - the OTO - had a common origin with the Thule group to which several members of the Nazi hierarchy belonged (including deputy party chairman Rudolph Hess). The sig rune used by the Nazis - appears on the Scientology International Management Organization's symbol - a red square enclosing a white disc and set off by four lightning flashes or sig runes. The swastika of the Nazi flag has been replaced by the Scientology "S and double triangle". The symbol of the Religious Technology Center is surrounded by sig runes. The sig rune is otherwise peculiar to the Nazis.

L. Ron, junior, was sure that the teachings of the pre-Nazi Germanen Orden and the Thule secret societies had passed directly to his father by courier. No explanation is given for using these sig runes by Scientology. At the time that both of these symbols were introduced, Hubbard also created the International Finance Police, headed by the International Finance Dictator. An significant choice of words.

Hubbard's words and Crowley's religious ideology

One can tell a lot about what type of religion an organization is by looking at the spiritual qualities of the religion's founders, their words, and the organization's key leaders. Wherever possible this story will quote from the policy and spiritual directives of Scientology's founder L. Ron Hubbard...

While Hubbard was supposedly researching his Dianetics in the late 1940s, he was in fact engaging in magical rituals, and trying out hypnosis both on himself and others. During the 1984 Armstrong trial against Scientology, extracts from Hubbard's voluminous self-hypnotic affirmations were read into the record. The statements, hundreds of pages of them, are written in red ink and Hubbard frequently drew pictures of the male genitalia alongside the text.

Amongst his affirmations to himself we find" "Men are my slaves", "Elemental Spirits are my slaves" and "You can be merciless whenever your will is crossed and you have every right to be merciless" "All women shall succumb to my charms! All mankind shall grovel at my feet and not know why."

L. Ron Hubbard repeatedly played them back to himself while under the influence of hallucinatory drugs such as mescaline and cocaine. Was Hubbard's evil intention to secretly subjugate no less than all of mankind?

In 1938 in a letter to the first of Hubbard's three wives he said, "I have high hopes of smashing my name into history so violently that it will take legendary form..."

More from the sacred scriptures of Hubbard. "THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them."

"If you really want to enslave people tell them that you are going to give them total freedom." (At the top of the Scientology grade chart of levels of initiate attainment at the OT 8 level is the benefit obtained from that level. At OT 8 it is written "Total Freedom.")

Of practitioners unlicensed by him Hubbard said "Harass these persons in any possible way." Nor did Hubbard exclude the possibility of murder against those who opposed him. The "Suppressive Person declare" and the "Fair Game Law" speak reams in terms of Hubbard's true intent and spiritual nature.

"An enemy may be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist...may be tricked, sued, lied to, or destroyed." From the words of L. Ron Hubbard in HCO policy letter of 18 October 1967, known as the "Fair Game Policy."

"A suppressive person becomes fair game. By fair game is meant may not be further protected by the codes and disciplines of Scientology...They cannot be granted the rights and beingness ordinarily accorded rational beings and so place themselves beyond any consideration for their feelings or well being...The homes, property, places, abodes of persons who have been active in attempting to suppress Scientology are all beyond the protection of Scientology ethics."

More from the mouth of L Ron Hubbard: "When you move off a point of power, pay all your obligations on the nail, empower your friends completely and move off with your pockets full of artillery, potential blackmail on every erstwhile rival, unlimited funds in your private account and the addresses of experienced assassins and go live in Bulgaria and bribe the police ....

"So to live at all in the shadow or employ of a power you must yourself gather and USE enough power to hold your own-without just nattering to the power to kill Pete', in straightforward or more suppressive veiled ways to him as these wreck the power that supports yours. He doesn't have to know all the bad news and if he's a power really he won't ask all the time, What are all those dead bodies doing at the door?' And if you are clever, you never let it be thought HE killed them-that weakens you and also hurts the power source. Well, boss, about all those dead bodies, nobody at all will suppose you did it. She over there, those pink legs sticking out, didn't like me.'

" Well,' he'll say if he really is a poor, why are you bothering me with it if its done and you did it. Where's my blue ink?' Or, Skipper three shore patrolmen will be along soon with your cook, Dober, and they'll want to tell you he beat up Simson.' Who's Simson?' He's a clerk in the office enemy downtown.'

" Good, when they've done it, take Dober down to the dispensary for any treatment he needs. Oh yes. Raise his pay.'....

"...we all aren't on the stage with our names in lights, always push power in the direction of anyone on whose power you depend. It may be more money for the power, or more ease, or a snarling defense of the power to a critic, or even the dull thud of one of his enemies in the dark, or the glorious blaze of the whole enemy camp as a birthday surprise .... Real powers are developed by tight conspiracies of this kind pushing someone up in whose leadership they have faith." (From the policy directive "The Responsibilities of Leaders" by L. Ron Hubbard.)

Hubbard on compassion and ethics, "This universe is a rough universe. Its a deadly serious universe. Only the strong survive. Only the ruthless can own it." (From The History of Man by L Ron Hubbard, p.38.) "Only a barbarian minister is a man of God." "The purpose of ethics is to remove counter-intentions from the environment." (HCO policy letter of June 18, 1968.)

In Booklet of the Scientology Professional Auditors Course (1982), states. "A very effective thought control technique could be worked out from Scientology which could be used to make individuals into WILLING slaves." (emphasis added)

Passing of the mantle of the beast, or just random unconnected events?

Was Hubbard in Crowley's fold and his successor? Before Aleister Crowley died in his book called "Moon Child: he predicted one of his members would form a new world religion. Is that world religion Scientology?

According to Hubbard's son L. Ron Hubbard, Jr., his father considered himself to be the successor to Crowley when Crowley died in 1947; he believed that he had taken on "the mantle of the Beast." Hubbard told his son that Scientology actually began on December the 1st, 1947, the day Aleister Crowley died.

According to this son Hubbard's purpose in Scientology was to "crack souls," to bringing unknowing people under his control and to use them as channels for satanic purposes. Is this soul cracking the process of Scientology's secret initiations? Is it the indelible marking or possession of the souls of the initiates?

In one of the secret Scientology initiations called the Clearing Course the initiate is instructed to locate and audit out "the Light." In a hypnotic trance the initiate keeps working on removing "the power "the Light" has over them until "the Light" can no longer have any effect on them. After completing this level of initiation the person is declared "cleared" and given a Clear number.

Initiates are numbered in the succession of when they go Clear. The initiate wears their clear number that is engraved onto the back of a small silver bracelet that is worn almost all the time. The clear number list is published periodically and great attention is given to announcing more numbered Clears each year.

A peculiar event occurred aboard Hubbard's flagship, the Apollo, in 1973. Those aboard ship responsible for overseeing the management of Scientology organizations were involved in a ceremony called the Kali ceremony after the Hindu goddess of destruction. The whole event was staged very seriously, and the managers were led into a dimly lit hold of the ship and ordered to destroy models of their organizations.

A few years before, a high-ranking Sea Organization Officer claims to have been ordered to Los Angeles where he was meant to mount an armed attack on a magician's sabat. He did not mount the attack but claims that the meeting happened exactly where Hubbard had told him it would.

In the original "Operating Thetan section VII course", Scientologists were given exercises which would supposedly lead to the ability to implant thoughts into another person's mind. Scientologists believe that they will ultimately be capable of psychic feats including telepathy and telepathic control of others (the aim of all forms of black magic).

In 1976, Hubbard ordered a secret research project into the teachings of gnostic groups. He had already carried out a project to determine which of his ship's crew members were "soldiers of light" and which "soldiers of darkness". The latter group were apparently promoted.

During the 1952 Philadelphia lectures while discussing religion and the Antichrist Hubbard quipped, "Who do you think I am?" The audience laughed it off.

Also in Scientology's Philadelphia Doctorate Course lectures, Hubbard discusses occult and black magic of the middle ages. "The magical cults of the 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th centuries in the Middle East were fascinating. The only modern work that has anything to do with them is a trifle wild in spots, but is a fascinating work in itself, and that's the work of Aleister Crowley - the late Aleister Crowley - my very good friend."

Scientology's secret anti-Christianity

Hubbard's deep-rooted bigotry and cynicism toward Christianity permeates all of his secret writings. When reading the following keep in mind that fewer than 2% of Church members have any formal secret level technical training in Scientology and have never read Hubbard's secret views on Christianity.

New Church members are told that Scientology's policy is to "Change no man's religion" and they are also assured that Scientology doctrine does not conflict with any other religions, and indeed it is consistent and supportive of ALL religions, past and present.

Scientology promotes to the public that: "Scientologists hold the Bible as a holy work and have no argument with the Christian belief that Jesus Christ was the Savior of Mankind and the Son of God. "We share Christ's goals for man's achievements of wisdom, good health and immortality."

Christianity is among the faiths studied by Scientology ministerial students. There are probably many types of redemption. That of Christ was to go to heaven." Scientology states as well that: "The Church has no dogma concerning God." Scientology publishes these statements as part of its "catechism."

Scientology has recently distributed promotional materials (The "What is Scientology?" book) containing these representations to every member of the U.S. Congress, to libraries, to the media, to educators, to judges, and to people of influence all across this the U.S and in other parts of the world.

The main target of Scientology's promotion and marketing are Christians, and by far the largest percentage of Scientology's members come from Christian backgrounds. Using Scientology's own figures from "What is Scientology?" Christians account for fifty-three percent of its members. The second largest percentage comes from Judaism, which worships the same God, Jehovah, as Christianity.

>From the following the reader will see that Scientology secretly teaches that the God of Christianity and Judaism is an implant. (In the Scientology dictionary an implant is defined as, 1. A painful and forceful means of overwhelming a being with artificial purpose or false concepts in a malicious attempt to control and suppress him. (Scientology Auditor No. 71 ASHO) 2. An electronic means of overwhelming the thetan [the individual themselves] with a significance. (Hubbard Communication Office Bulletin 8 May 1963).

Scientology enforces the acceptance of the implant teaching with its system of "ethics" punishments, its "auditing procedures," and its institutionalized mockery of God and Christ. Anyone in Scientology who professed a belief in Christ, or God, or who sought help through prayer, was subtly viewed and handled as a "psychotic."

Such a person was segregated, given special auditing to break his belief, and, if the "aberration" persisted, he would be "off-loaded." Members learned quickly inside Scientology to disavow any belief in God, or to not mention Him, or to not look to Him for wisdom or help, and to view Christians as "aberrated" and "dramatizing the Christ implant." Members learn very quickly that, inside Scientology, even thinking of Christ or God as real was labeled as an "other practice," a punishable "ethics offense" or "overt," which would become the subject of a "security check" on Scientology's lie detector, its "E-meter."

A former Scientologist states that: "While on the confidential class 8 course in Scotland, listening to Hubbard's twenty lectures taped just weeks previously on the Apollo in Corfu, Greece, I was exposed to, among other things, Hubbard's opinion of Christianity: "Somebody on this planet, about 600 B.C. found some pieces of "R6" (R6 is the name of an special implant.) I don't know how they found it; either by watching madmen or something. But since that time they have used it. And it became what is known as Christianity."

Many of Hubbard's early views on Christianity and other religions views expressed in the early 1950's Philadelphia Doctorate Course. The series covers 62 taped lectures. Students on the OT 8 course listen to all these tapes as part of their OT 8 initiation.

On 9 December 1952, Hubbard lectured on "What's wrong with This Universe: A Working Package for the Auditor". Hubbard describes some of the "between lives" implants, that supposedly occur to everyone after they die. In his later writings, Hubbard claimed that all religions came from "implants." In the secret initiation of OT 2 the initiate has to visualize in while trance "inventing and destroying religions."

Hubbard's later writings, in the 1960's, and especially in the 1980 OT 8 document, also re-assert that Christianity was also an implant. In this tape he states: "You'll find out thousands of years before the year one A.D. earth, you will have facsimiles and dolls made up like Christ. FAC One', a million years ago, is occasionally rigged with Christ, and the devil and an angel. It's a fascinating thing, it's an old game." (A facsimile is a mental image picture, recorded in the mind. Hubbard described FAC One as probably a supersonic shot in the forehead, chest and stomach, incapacitating and reducing the size and function of the pineal gland.)

In several taped lectures made in England in the 1960's, Hubbard stated that an alien space organization, called the Markab Confederacy implanted their own troops before they sent them off on missions. Hubbard claimed the Scientology organizational structure was modeled after the Galactic Confederation, of which he was a part of. In the infamous OT 8 document of 1980, Hubbard wrote that Christ was a Markabian agent, and Hubbard was a high-ranking official in the Galactic Patrol.

In the 1950's, Hubbard wrote a series of newsletters about his technical "discoveries" and called them PABS (Professional Auditor Bulletins). In PAB 31 Hubbard writes: "Religion does much to keep the assumption in restimulation, being basically a control mechanism used by those who have sent the preclear into a body. You will find the cross as a symbol all over the universe, and the Christ legend as implant in preclears a million years ago."

In the same article, Hubbard infers that Jesus Christ was an agent of a mind-control organization that was imported to Earth: "A few operating thetans scarcely could lead to trouble. Witness the chaos resulting from the activities and other determinism technology of one operating thetan, 2,000 years ago. It is despicable and utterly beneath contempt to tell a man he must repent, that he is evil. Those who talk most about peace on earth and good-will among men themselves carry forward the seas of unrest, war and chaos."

In HCO bulletin of 18 July 1959 Hubbard wrote as a "Historical Note": "The whole Christian movement is based on the victim. Compulsion of the overt-motivator sequence. They won by appealing to victims. We can win by converting victims. Christianity succeeded by making people into victims. We can succeed by making victims into people."

Hubbard's criticism of Christian confessionals is utter hypocrisy, in view of his organization's policy of leaking the contents of confessionals and transgressions culled from the confidential records of dissident present and former church members. In HCO bulletin 21 January 1960 he writes,

"Some Churches used a mechanism of confession. This was a limited effort to relieve a person of the pressure of his overt acts. Later the mechanism of confession was employed as a kind of blackmail by which increased contribution could be obtained from the person confessing."

Hubbard continued his "research" on the "insidious genesis of Christianity" and in the "Heaven" bulletin of 11 May 1963 he released his latest "objective" findings, which were: "Based on over a thousand hours of research auditing, analyzing the facsimiles of the reactive mind, and with the help of a Mark V Electrometer. It is scientific research and is not in any way based upon the mere opinion of the researcher...The contents of this HCO bulletin discover the apparent underlying impulses of religious zealots and the source of the religious mania which terrorized Earth over the ages and has given religion the appearance of insanity."

In his much touted 1950 book, "Dianetics, the Modern Science of Mental Health", Hubbard asserted that "engrams" were the root cause of ALL human aberrations and psychosomatic illnesses. With his new discoveries of what transpired in Heaven, Hubbard offered a new cause of the human dilemma: "The Goals-Problems-Mass (GPM) implants, which are the apparent basic source of aberration and human travail, which began with the goal to Forget, were cynically done `in Heaven'.

Hubbard dismissed the concerns of some members about his disparagement and cynicism about other religions: "For a long while, some people have been cross with me for my lack of cooperation in believing in a Christian Heaven, God and Christ. I have never said I didn't disbelieve in a Big Thetan but there was certainly something very corny about Heaven et al.

"Now I have to apologize. There was a Heaven. Not too unlike, in cruel betrayal, the heaven of the Assassins in the 12th Century who, like everyone else, dramatized the whole track implants if a bit more so. The symbol of the crucified Christ is very apt indeed. It's the symbol of a thetan betrayed."

Hubbard describes the incident as occurring 43+ trillion years ago. The stunned thetan was placed in a doll body and transported to Heaven in a ship. Over a period of one trillion years, the thetan was given a series of electronic implants, containing the phrases "To Forget, To Remember, To Go Away."

Hubbard described the terrain of Heaven: "The gates of the first series are well done, well built. An avenue of statues of saints leads up to them. The gate pillars are surmounted by marble angels. The entering grounds are very well kept, laid out like Bush Gardens in Pasadena, so often seen in the movies. Aside from the implant boxes which lie across from each other on the walk there are other noises and sounds as though the saints are defending and berating.

"The second series, probably in the same place, shows what a trillion years of overt acts does (or is an additional trick to collapse one's time). The place is shabby. The vegetation is gone. The pillars are scruffy. The saints have vanished. So have the angels.

"A sign on one (the left as you enter) says `This is Heaven'. The right has a sign "Hell" with an arrow and inside the grounds one can see the excavations like archaeological diggings with the raw terraces, that lead to "Hell". Plain wire fencing encloses the place. There is a sentry box beside and outside the right pillar.

"The roadway `leading up' to the gates is deeply eroded. An effigy of Joseph, complete with desert clothing is seen approaching the gates (but not moving) leading a donkey which `carries' the original Madonna and child from `Bethlehem'. The implanting boxes lie on either side of this `entering' path at path level."

Hubbard concluded: "Further, we have our hands on an appalling bit of technology where the world is concerned. With rapidity and a Meter it can be shown that Heaven is a false dream and that the old religion was based on very painful lie, a cynical betrayal."

Hubbard oscillates in his secret and public statements about Christ. >From the 1950's, "The man on the cross. There was no Christ! The Roman Catholic Church, through watching the dramatizations of people picked up some little fragments of R6."

In a bulletin of that period Hubbard states, "Also the Christian Church used (and uses) implanting... They took over the Nicene Creed just before the year zero, invented Christ who comes from the crucifixion in R6, 75 million years ago and implanted their way to power." (Keep in mind that logical consistency is not required in the cosmology and beliefs of classical Satanists or secret societies. In fact the secrets are usually kept from lower level initiates and protected from public understanding or afforded public deniability by deliberately manufactured layers of illogic, reversal and inconsistency.)

Hubbard was living in England at the time and his "R6 breakthrough" was considered of major significance. His discovery of Heaven inspired the "poet laureate" of Scientology, Julian Cooper, to write:

"They that worship Jesus nailed upon a cross above an altar,

While an old priest chants....

Do they know what they worship?

Do they know why they worship?

Can they recognize what they worship?

Bondage of unconfronted facsimiles implanted so as to control and invalidate, is what they worship.'"

Hubbard abandoned Dianetics as the solution to an Un-Clear world after his discovery of the Heaven incident and the nature of the Goals-Problems-Mass implant. He spent the next five years "researching" the pattern of the implants and in 1967-68 he made another series of "discoveries" which are now know as "OT 2" and "OT 3". Hubbard wrote voluminous notes on the command phrases contained in the GPM implants, which he claimed were universal in nature.

Hubbard's "major" breakthrough in this period was his discovery that human bodies are actually the result of the melding of thetans (aliens from other planets) during a psychiatrically-inspired implant 76 million years ago. Hubbard wrote that a galactic despot, Xenu, rounded up the population of 76 planets in this sector of the galaxy and transported them to Earth, placed them in volcanoes, and exploded H-bombs, then subjected them to 36 days of electronic implanting, including the "Christianity" and "Heaven" implant. This incident created "Body Thetans" (BT/s), alien beings who were attached to other beings or human beings. They monitor one's thought and impede one's life. Hubbard developed a technique for exorcising these alien Body Thetans.

In 1978 Hubbard made another "Breakthrough!" which he called NOTs (New-Era Dianetics for OTs). Hubbard developed new techniques for dealing with alien BTs who were comatose or did not respond to his 1968 exorcising techniques.

Hubbard claimed that a human body was actually a mass of alien BTs who were comatose and diseases were simply alien BTs who were acting against the person. Hubbard claimed that eradicating these alien BTs from on or near the body would result in the creation of a Supra-Human, an Operating Thetan, a new genetically pure from alien influences master race capable of telepathic and telekinetic powers, without the need for a human body. (For additional parallels on the occultism of Scientology read, "The Occult and the Third Reich, by Dusty Skylar.)

Church members undergoing initiation on these levels in hypnotic trance. They are required to mentally repeat the techniques and phrases until their effects are nullified.

Following the 1979 U.S. government raids of Hubbard's Secret Intelligence offices, he went into hiding, never to be seen publicly again. In 1980 Hubbard allegedly wrote the avidly anti-Christian OT 8 document. This will be discussed in detail later in this story.

Once Scientology's initiates become sufficiently brainwashed Scientology does not permit them to believe in God. It labels and treats anyone who believes in God as "psychotic," and enforces the satanic idea that God is an "implant," a false idea installed by pain and electronics in man's mind to enslave him. Scientology also teaches that Jesus Christ, the whole Gospel story, and Heaven are implants designed to enslave man, and that only Scientology has the way to free humankind from the enslavement of Christianity or other religions and religious beliefs.

What could be more hypocritical than to widely advertise publicly acceptance of Christ and alignment with His goals, and teaching and enforcing secretly that He is an implanted idea to enslave people? What could be more hypocritical than to state that Scientology has no dogma concerning God, while hiding its "scriptures" that assert God is an implant?

There was an Inquiry into Scientology in Victoria Australia. In that report in a section called "The Attitude of Scientology to Religion" one can see the deceit of classical Satanism and the words of Aleister Crowley creeping out in Hubbard's new religion.

"Except for the purpose of deceit, Scientology has not been practiced in Victoria on the basis that it even remotely resembles a religion. In advertisements and in the personal efficiency courses, the HASI takes care not to disclose Hubbard's disparagement of religion. The directive, "Change no man's religion" is brought to the attention of the beginner, and Scientology is paraded as quite consistent with, and even as, a help to all religion of whatever denomination. It is only after the preclear (the PRE Clear) has been conditioned by training and processing that he is likely to learn of Hubbard's cynical hostility to religion.

The attitude of Hubbard towards religion is one of bitter cynicism and ridicule, which gives the lie to his directive to "change no man's religion." In a warped and sneering fashion he snipes at all things sacred in much the same way as he attacks the medical profession, though there is generally less venom in his tone when he is dealing with religion. Scientology is opposed to religion as such, irrespective of kind or denomination. The essence of Hubbard's axioms of Scientology is that the universe was created not by God, but by a conglomeration of thetans who postulated the universe. Sometimes God is referred to as the Big Thetan. Many of the theories he propounds are almost the negation of Christian thought and morality.

In Scientology: 8-8008, after dealing with the Early Greeks. Hubbard writes that "more modern man has fallen into the error of making God into the body of a homo sapiens and posting him somewhere on high with a craving for vengeance and a pettiness in punishment matched only by the degradation of homo sapiens himself. "There are gods above all other gods, and gods beyond the gods of universes, but it were better, far better, to be a raving madman in his cell than to be a thing with the ego, cruelty and jealous lust that base religions have set up to make men grovel down."

A former member:" For the fleeting illusion of power and wealth Hubbard sold his soul to the world's dark force of evil. Out of his paranoia and schizophrenia Hubbard considered himself the Antichrist and devised an anti-Christian philosophy and organization to achieve his anti-Christian goals of world power and wealth. "

"If there ever was a manifestation of the Satanic dark side of spirituality or of the Beast or anything that could really harm the world it is Scientology. The difference you need to realize between this Satanic group and every other Satanic group is that Scientology is vastly larger, it doesn't identify itself as a Satanic organization and a Satanic Church; it is incredibly well organized as far as its staff and its paramilitary training.

The other Satanic groups are much, much smaller, fragmented, random, and aren't really very well organized or well planned. Scientology runs with the efficiency of a Japanese corporation. In Scientology we are talking about teamwork, organization, absolute policy, fanaticism, ruthlessness, all combined into a well-financed mega-organization." A former member.

One of Hubbard's goals was to produce a Nazi-like fanaticism within his members. To this end he created paramilitary branches within Scientology like the Sea Organization, OSA, GO or the Commodore's Messengers the latter which were similar in may ways to the Hitler youth. The following is from one of the books exposing Scientology, referring to the Commodore's Messengers:

"They had devised the uniform themselves, with the Commodore's approval, and it gave them maximum opportunity to flaunt their pubescent assets to advantage. While male members of the crew competed avidly to deflower the messengers, Hubbard himself never once exhibited any sexual interest in them.

"He never tried anything with me," said Tanya, "and as far as I know he never did with any of the other girls. He didn't sleep with Mary Sue; we thought perhaps he was impotent. I think he got his thrills by just having us around. I once asked him why he chose young girls as messengers," said Doreen Smith. "He said it was an idea he had picked up from Nazi Germany. He said Hitler was a madman, but nevertheless a genius in his own right and the Nazi Youth was one of the smartest ideas he ever had. With young people you had a blank slate and you could write anything you wanted on it and it would be your writing. That was his idea, to take young people and mold them into little Hubbards."

More from the words of L Ron Hubbard: "When someone enrolls consider he or she has joined up for the duration of the universe. Never permit an "open minded" approach .... If they're enrolled, they're aboard, and if they're aboard they're here on the same terms as the rest of us. Win or die in the attempt .... We're not playing some minor game in Scientology .... The whole agonized future of this planet, every Man, Woman, and Child on it, and your own destiny for the next endless trillions of years depends on what you do here and now with and in Scientology. This is a deadly serious activity. And if we miss getting out of the trap now, we may never again have another chance.

"Remember, this is our first chance to do so in all the endless trillions of years of the past. Don't muff it now because it seems unpleasant or unsocial to do Seven, Eight, Nine, and Ten." Do them and we'll win. ( The numbers referred to are 7, Hammering out of existence incorrect technology, 8, knocking out incorrect applications, 9, closing the door on any possibility of incorrect technology, and 10, closing the door on incorrect applications." From Hubbard Communication Office Policy Letter "Keeping Scientology Working."

Scientology's leaders and their families

Looking at the life and families of a religion's leaders can tell you a lot about the real nature of the religion. L. Ron Hubbard was the founder of Scientology; David Miscavige is the current leader of Scientology. Everyone has hardship in their lives, but the Hubbard and Miscavige families appear to be riddled with the types of catastrophes that most commonly reflect the casualties and actions of malignant secret societies and satanic groups...

According to former members who worked close to Hubbard, L. Ron Hubbard, the man who designed the system for conning billions of dollars worth of services for health, happiness and secret spiritual initiations out of others, himself went psychotic, attempted suicide and was a heavy drug user. Former members also report that for most of his Scientology life Hubbard was in continual poor health.

Two of Hubbard's first wives attempted suicide or were driven to the edge of suicide and insanity. They have described in detail Hubbard's real personality and how Hubbard was deliberately driving them over the edge.

L. Ron Hubbard Jr. grew up with and worked extensively with his father in the early Scientology and Dianetics organizations. L. Ron Hubbard Jr.'s life with his father and extensive comments on his father's secret personality have been covered elsewhere in this story.

After his first two marriages failed Hubbard disowned most of his former family and started a new family with his third wife Mary Sue. After he disowned her she had to go to jail and took a Scientology related criminal prison sentence for him.

Hubbard's son Quentin (by his third marriage) attempted suicide several times and finally killed himself because he was a homosexual. There also have been repeated allegations of child molesting between Hubbard and his daughter Diana (also by his third marriage.)

Hubbard's daughter Diana attempted suicide. Hubbard's third wife while under his influence also threatened to commit suicide.

One Sea Organization officer claims to have witnessed a sexual encounter between Hubbard and a young boy in North Africa. Because of the fear surrounding retaliation it is impossible to publicly substantiate such reports. But, such behavior would be in keeping with an extreme devotee of Aleister Crowley who said that in the training of a black magican satanist "Acts which are essentially dishonorable must be done."

Family members often have the best vantage point to see the real quality of spirituality and personality of another family member. Family member's lives are either brought up or down by the type of leadership and role models found in the family. But, maybe this principle is not true and it is really the way Hubbard claims it to be, that people who would go against him and Scientology would kill themselves because they felt so bad because he was so powerful and good.

Hubbard's views on how to use the legal system for handling critics

"The purpose of a lawsuit is to harass and discourage rather than to win....Don't ever defend. Always attack. Find or manufacture enough threat against them to cause them to sue for peace. Originate a black PR campaign to destroy the person's repute and to discredit them so thoroughly they will be ostracized. Be alert to sue for slander at the slightest chance so as to discourage the public presses from mentioning Scientology."

"The law can be used very easily to harass, and enough harassment on somebody who is simply on the thin edge anyway, will knowing that he is not authorized, will generally be sufficient to cause his professional decease. If possible, of course, ruin him utterly." From "A Manual on the Dissemination of Material" (1955) by L. Ron Hubbard.

"NEVER agree to an investigation of Scientology. ONLY agree to investigate the attackers....This is the correct procedure: (1) Spot who is attacking us. (2) Start investigating them for FELONIES or worse, using our own professionals, not outside agencies. (3) Double curve our reply by saying we welcome an investigation of them. (4) Start feeding lurid, blood, sex, crime actual evidence on the attackers to the press....Don't ever submit tamely to an investigation of us. Make it rough on the attackers all the way....You can get "reasonable about it" and lose .... so BANISH all ideas that any fair hearing is intended and start our attack with their first breath. Never wait. Never talk about us -- only them. Use their blood, sex, crime to get headlines. Don't use us." From HCO policy letter of 25 Feb. 1966, "Attacks on Scientology."

"The defense of anything is untenable. The only way to defend anything is to attack, and if you ever forget that, you will lose every battle you are engaged in, whether it is in terms of personal conversation, public debate, or a court of law. NEVER BE INTERESTED IN CHARGES. Do yourself, much MORE CHARGING, and you will win."

"Entirely by bringing about public conviction that the sanity of a person is in question it is possible to discount and eradicate all the goals and activities of that person." From the "Brainwashing Manual" ascribed to L Ron Hubbard.

Hubbard on secrecy

"Now if we were to sit down and try to monopolize every piece of information which we ever collected... and we were to take this information and carefully say, Now look, this piece of information is absolutely sacred, and it's not to be distributed to anybody. And it's not to be given to anybody, and only those people who have a pink cross on the right shoulder will be able to read this information'...we would go into a mysterious sort of cult."

Gerald Armstrong has been one of the most courageous exposers of the real life of L. Ron Hubbard. Gerald Armstrong was Hubbard's personal archivist and was sued and attacked by Scientology when he began exposing some of the materials of this story. He eventually won his court case against Scientology. In the decision of that case the judge stated:

"In addition to violating and abusing its own members civil rights, the [Scientology] organization over the years with its "Fair Game" doctrine has harassed and abused those persons not in the Church it perceives as enemies. The organization clearly is schizophrenic and paranoid, and this bizarre combination seems to be reflective of its founder LRH.

"The evidence portrays a man who has been virtually a pathological liar when it comes to his history, background, and achievements. The writings and documents in evidence additionally reflect his egoism, greed, avarice, lust for power, and vindictiveness and aggressiveness against persons perceived by him to be disloyal or hostile."

David Miscavige and family

David Miscavige is a high school drop out who now leads a 300 million dollar a year international corporation dedicated to achieving the secret goals and vision of L. Ron Hubbard. He was the hand- trained child protege and apprentice of the ruthless master black magician who considered himself to be the Antichrist.

A former nanny of Miscavige said "that what you should feel for David is pity." From the start he had a horrible childhood, a horrible life. His life was molded under the hyper-dominant influence of Hubbard's evil personality.

When you look at Miscavige's family one finds echoes of the Hubbard family. David's sister committed suicide. She was high up in Scientology's secret initiations (OT 7).

Miscavige's father, a Sea Org member, was arrested for some kind of rape-assault. It is reported that to avoid public embarrassment to Scientology Miscavige was able to use Scientology's intimidating legal resources to get him off. (David's father still works with his son.)

David Miscavige's mother-in-law committed suicide while going psychotic in the Scientology secret initiations. (David Mayo was Hubbard's original hand-picked replacement, but who had left Scientology after a power struggle. At the time Flo Barnett committed suicide Mayo was allegedly auditing her on the same secret levels they audit in Scientology.)

It should be noted that there is considerable ongoing debate that Miscavige's mother-in-law did not committed suicide, but may have been murdered for some reason possibly involving Miscavige and Scientology. According to the declaration of former member Vicki Aznaran who was one of the three highest executives in Scientology, when Flo Barnett flipped out and shot herself to death, the reactions of Miscavige and his wife were no compassion, no remorse.

The concept was that "she got what she deserved; we don't feel sorry for her," because she had left Scientology for a Scientology reform group that illegally used the same secret initiations. (Vicki Aznaran recently retracted this declaration after a pay off from Scientology.)

David Miscavige is known in the organization to be as ruthless, fear inspiring and as wild as his mentor was. His whispered nickname in the organization is the "asthmatic dwarf." When one of Miscavige's junior executives lost a baby in an abortion he just said, "Get back to work; its just another body; what are you showing all this concern for?"

When looking at the lives and families of Hubbard and Miscavige recalling the parallels to Aleister Crowley's life is also unavoidable. Aleister Crowley is known to have driven all of his mistresses and wives to hysteria, madness or divorce with his demands. Crowley drove several of his disciples to suicide and humiliated others to madness. This type of result on the lives of others is not just particular to Crowley Satanist groups, but it is common in most fanatical secret societies.

More about Scientology as a secret society

Like its historic secret society ancestors, the inner Scientology is complete with its own mystical cosmology. The secret inner Scientology can be better understood by studying the many parallels of cosmology, policies, and practices of earlier political secret societies and brotherhoods, e.g. the Thule, Viral, and the Hashish Assassins. (The Thule and Viral were two pre W.W.II German secret Societies. The Hashish Assassins played a key role in the political power balance of the Middle East for almost 600 years.)

Some common elements to these previous secret societies are the use of the ancestral processes of mind control, non-Cartesian closed logic systems, magic, hypnosis, and secret initiation exercises. These elements help desensitize, build blind obedience, and develop a ruthless, fanatical will to execute the secret society's goals in both new initiates and long term members.

Such closed ideological systems used in secret societies deliberately cuts off their members from balancing and correctional social feedback. If a society becomes dominated by such a group as in Nazi Germany, because of their psychological profile, unfortunately only extreme deterrents seem to have any effect. For example, late in 1945 in spite of obvious contrary facts, the inner circle leaders of the Nazis refused to believe the war was lost; consequently the allies literally had to fight them to the last bunker, but not before countless people had unnecessarily died.

The goals of secret societies are primarily concerned with getting or maintaining political power and wealth. The world view of these secret societies often involved a special elitism.

Most of these secret societies had UFO or extraterrestrial cosmologies confirming and/or bestowing upon them their "world historic destinies." "Their" secret society was the only one chosen to play critical, often hidden roles in the history of current and future world events. These cosmologies imbued them with a sense of "privileged" and exclusive special knowledge.

Psychological and physical terrorism were common in their policies. The inner circles of these types of organizations traditionally and deliberately controlled the outer circles with lies, punishment, blackmail, or deception, particularly by withholding "privileged" higher level initiation information. The inner circle, where necessary, would use or sacrifice ignorant outer circle members as expendable tools or deployable agents.

The outer Scientology can appear as a benign and intertwined mix of pop psychology, eastern philosophy, and a thick mantle of recognizable but strained religious terminology and trappings. Scientology's religious cloaking is important. It gives immunity to its auditing mind control processes, which work to effect an effective manufacturing system for the gradual conversion of the novice outer circle members into unquestioning inner circle members.

"I believe that in Scientology I was ritualistically hypnotized. On the first class that I did, I had to do a drill called TR-O. In this drill I had to sit facing another person and stare at them in the eyes for two hours without blinking, and if I blinked or moved in any way, the two hours had to be done over again. Some days I did this drill for twelve or more hours a day. I told that this drill was to improve my eye contact and would make me a better "auditor", or counselor. I did not know until after I got out of Scientology that I was being hypnotized. This drill was followed by thirteen other, similar drills in hypnosis and mind control." A former member.

"I believe the Scientologists to be psychological hostages and under the influence of hypnosis, although they themselves do not perceive this to be so, any more than I did while I was in Scientology. I became aware of the fact only after I snapped out of the hypnosis a year and a half after I left Scientology and realized what had happened to me." A former member.

"Scientologists are so thoroughly indoctrinated that they are incapable of rational evaluation of their own welfare or situations. Those who want to leave are often unable to do so. With no money, frightened and intimidated and knowing that others have committed suicide, have died in accidents or perhaps been murdered, they cannot leave. Without contact with the outside world, they have no one to turn to for help or protection." A former member.

"I have witnessed many human rights violations, including the imprisonment of persons who had become psychotic on the secret upper level initiations' of Scientology. I was myself imprisoned twice in the dreaded R.P.F.' (Rehabilitation Project Force) of Scientology I was slave labor to the organization, working 80-100 hours a week; my largest weekly pay was $11. I participated in satanic practices which nearly destroyed my mental health. I am willing to testify under oath as to these facts." A former member.

Scientology's actual nature

Once you have examined the origins of a group it is wise to carefully examine its actual nature. One discovers this not by its open public relations statements, but by its actual secret intentions and its secret actions. What an organization does that is secret is a laser light that cuts through to the real nature of the organization.

A complete discussion of the history of Scientology's actions is not the focus of this story. You will find the other appendices included at the end of this document that will list reports that detail the actual nature of Scientology as reflected in its criminal convictions, actual actions toward its adversaries and its other secret policies. (See appendix 1.)

Scientology's secret goals

The following quotation is from a secret Scientology policy directive called "Targets" Guardian Order 060971. It and other secret documents were seized by the F.B.I. on its authorized search of Scientology's headquarters. From this directive to the secretive intelligence division of Scientology you see Scientology's real goals.

"The vital targets on which we must invest most of our time are: (T1) Depopularizing the enemy to the point of obliteration. (T2) Taking over the control or allegiance of the heads or proprietors of all news media. (T3) Taking over the control or allegiance of key political figures. (T4) Taking over the control or allegiance of those who monitor international finance and shifting them to a loss precarious standard".... "Intelligence is not concentrating on what they should be - the WFMH, [World Federation of Mental Health] the NAMH [National Association of Mental Health] - These are the groups I want destroyed."

>From the Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter of 14 Jan. 1969, "Thus in the case of Scientology Orgs [organizations] one should attack with the end view of taking over the whole field of mental health." "Our war has been forced to become, to take over absolutely the field of mental healing on the planet in all forms." "Our only justification in doing these things is that Scientology is the only game where everybody wins...."

"The names and connections of the bitterly opposing enemy are 1. Psychiatry and Psychology. (not medicine) 2. The heads of news media who are the directors of psychiatric fronts. 3. A few key political figures in the fields of mental health and education."

>From these Smersh-like secret directives Hubbard is basically directing his fanatical followers to take over world finance; take over world political leaders and to take over mental health on the planet. This is completely consistent with classical Satanism in that he is talking almost exclusively about taking over secular power: political, financial, health and media power not spiritual power.

Is Scientology at its essence, a satanic, political secret society? Does uses a "romantic" cosmology, e.g. the creation of a new Superman, homo novis, the clear, the OT, and an esoteric extraterrestrial veneer of "Satanism" as an additional internal cover for the organization's real goals of simple non-celestial power, wealth, and control?

The authenticity of scientology's OT- 8 document

According to Scientology's secret cosmology, it must first free man from the aberration of religion to undo the political control implant. But then what?

The most telling document which those who believe Scientology to be a satanic organization reference is a document called "The O. T. 8, Series I, Confidential Student Briefing," of May, 5 1980. There has been much denial by Scientology that the following OT 8 document is really one of their most secret high initiation documents. There also has been much debate by former members and experts both on and off the Internet as to its authenticity.

There are passive and active factors to consider when evaluating its authenticity. Keeping in mind the context of the prior information of this story read the whole document before reading the discussion of the key factors relevant to its authenticity.

OT VIII: THE CONFIDENTIAL STUDENT BRIEFING DOCUMENT

HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE

Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex

HCO BULLETIN OF 5 MAY 1980

ISSUE I

LIMITED DISTRIBUTION OT VIII Course Students OT VIII Auditors OT VIII C/Sea AO Review Auditors AO C/Sea

OT VIII Series 1

C O N F I D E N T I A L STUDENT BRIEFING

By the time you read this I will no longer be occupying the body and identity that you have known as Ron. That identity continues to live in the hearts and minds of many as well as in on-Source tech and admin centers around the planet, and will inspire for years to come Scientologists and lovers of truth everywhere.

What follows is a story that has been withheld, for reasons which will soon be obvious, until such time as there were enough OTs that something could be done about it. That time is now. It is not a nice or a pretty story, but I trust that having arrived on the OT VIII Course you are ready to hear it. You have undoubtedly heard pieces of data over the years that hinted at the greater untold reality of my mission here on Earth, but the story was never written, nor spoken, in its entirety due to security problems that have unfortunately always plagued the organization. It is only now that I feel it safe to release the information, although the time is rapidly approaching when I will have no choice in the matter, the hour draws that near.

I am not going to delve too deeply into specifics as people have a tendency to bog themselves down in significance, which would only serve to delay the immediacy of the task at hand. Therefore I will be brief. Some eighty-odd million years ago Earth time (it actually dates at 78,395,042 but dates are a bit superfluous with this material) plans were drawn by a group outside the MEST universe for the eventual takeover of a good portion of this universe. Not a particularly large nor imaginative crew, their exterior perspective, however, gives them considerable advantage over the time-bound beings of the MEST universe. Borrowing from earlier operations such as Helatrobus, they conceived an ongoing implant, some portions of which have been fairly faithfully rendered in parts of the Bible. This implant, laid in by carefully controlled genetic mutation at Incident Two of OT III and periodically reinforced by controlled historic events since then, makes it effectively impossible for beings on the more heavily affected planets such as Earth to become free. It causes progressive genetic "evolution" that gives the subject population greater and greater susceptibility to the telepathic impingement and direction of the controllers. In its final stage the progression becomes almost geometric, and it is this final stage that we are rapidly approaching.

Another aspect of this GE-line implant is that the body becomes in effect a sort of theta trap that kicks in heavily on the being should he attempt to expand his horizons beyond that of pure physical universe reality. There can be temporary key-outs which we have all experienced in varying degrees, but until this area is handled it can honestly be said that there is no hope for continued expansion. The good news is that once this is run out, expansion becomes rather effortless and almost automatic.

No doubt you are familiar with the Revelations section of the Bible where various events are predicted. Also mentioned is a brief period of time in which an archenemy of Christ, referred to as the Antichrist, will reign and his opinions will have sway. All this makes for very fantastic, entertaining reading but there is truth in it. This Antichrist represents the forces of Lucifer (literally, the "light bearer" or "light bring"), Lucifer being a mythical representation of the forces of enlightenment, the Galactic Confederacy. My mission could be said to fulfill the Biblical promise represented by this brief Antichrist period. During this period there is a fleeting opportunity for the whole scenario to be effectively derailed, which would make it impossible for the mass Markabian landing (Second Coming) to take place. The Second Coming is designed, among other things, to trigger a rapid series of destructive events.

With the exception of the original Buddhism, virtually all religions of any consequence on this planet, monotheistic and pantheistic alike, have been instruments to speed the progress of this "evolution of consciousness" and bring about the eventual enslavement of mankind. As you know, Siddhartha Gautama never claimed to be anything more than a man. Having caught on to this operation, he postulated his own return as Meteyya, part of which prophecy will have been fulfilled upon the passing of L. Ron Hubbard.

For those of you whose Christian toes I may have stepped on, let me take the opportunity to disabuse you of some lovely myths. For instance, the historic Jesus was not nearly the sainted figure has been made out to be. In addition to being a lover of young boys and men, he was given to uncontrollable bursts of temper and hatred that belied the general message of love, understanding and other typical Marcab PR. You have only to look at the history his teachings inspired to see where it all inevitably leads. It is historic fact and yet man still clings to the ideal, so deep and insidious is the biologic implanting.

It is a good joke that the Galactic Confederacy is associated with the Serpent in the Garden, the Beast and other emissaries of the "Prince of Darkness". Yet in certain passages and esoteric interpretations of the Bible (much of which has been taken out and effectively suppressed for centuries) as well as the Kabbalah, the truth reveals itself quite nicely for the clever and the ungullible.

So it really is a race against time and one that we happen to be losing at the moment, as the Implant drama inexorably plays itself out in spite of the breakneck pace I've managed to keep up these last thirty-five years.

I had an inkling, but only that, of the insidiousness of this material as far back as 1945. Later, in characteristic over optimism, I thought that R6 would be the end of it. But that was followed by NOTs and the Purification Rundown and still the string continued to unwind with the ball at the end of it just out of sight. It makes one wonder about such things as fate and destiny, such was the resolve with which I managed to cling to that string, not often knowing how close I was to falling into the abyss myself. But destiny is merely the rationalization of feeble minds. Things don't just happen, they are caused. And causative beings can undo the plans of madmen and would-be enslavers, no matter how long those plans may have been in the making.

I will soon leave this world only to return and complete my mission with another identity. Although I long to stretch my arms back in repose on some distant star in some distant galaxy, it appears that, that is one dream that will have to wait. But my return depends on people like you doing these materials thoroughly and completely so that there will be a genetically uncontaminated body for me to pick up and resume where I left off. A body free of religious mania, right/wrong dichotomy and synthetic karma. The job ahead is far too tough to even contemplate doing with your standard -- courtesy of certain other-dimensional players and their Marcab pieces, many of whom are right here in the general populace -- genetically altered body.

Without the biogeneric meddling of those who stand outside time (who cannot yet directly influence our world and must work through others) the dwindling spiral is not nearly as automatic and self- perpetuating as it appears. There are regions even in isolated parts of the Milky Way where poets are free to poet and magicians can paint reality with their magic wands and exteriorize without body kickback. But these areas unfortunately are fewer and fewer. I will return not as a religious leader but a political one. That happens to be the requisite beingness for the task at hand. I will not be known to most of you, my activities misunderstood by many, yet along with your constant effort in the theta band I will effectively postpone and then halt a series of events designed to make happy slaves of us all.

So there you have it .... The secret that I have kept close to my chest all these years. Now you too are part of this secret and I no longer have to shoulder the burden alone or live with the possibility of body death before all the data could be released. And with this briefing I entrust to each of you the responsibility for this material until such time as I am able to return. For we have no help from any other quarter in this matter. The handful of secret societies throughout history that have caught on to this game have long since fallen by the wayside or been taken over and become instruments of the very menace they were set up to combat.

The rundown is long and can be arduous, but it must be done thoroughly if there is to be any effect not only on the body of the pre-OT but the body of his or her progeny as well. There is some danger, but with OT VII thoroughly complete it is not nearly so great as the danger witnessed by assorted unfortunates who happened to stumble into this area in their sleep or in moments of reverie or snatch, experiencing an hitherto mysterious phenomenon known as "spontaneous combustion".

CAUTION: DO NOT BE PTS WHILE TRAVERSING THIS THIRD AND FINAL WALL OF FIRE But the area is well charted, the rundown many years in secret development, and by the time you read this undoubtedly completed on myself. The wins waiting you are like none that you have ever experienced, not just for you, but for your children, your children's children and the whole of mankind, if we succeed. And we will. If we had time we would pity the many poor souls, from 1950 to PT, who chose such an exactly inopportune moment to drop off the road to truth and disconnect from reality, the full burst and glory of OT practically within their grasp. But we haven't the time to "wax philosophic" or ponder might-have-beens. The rundown follows. Again I say, do it thoroughly add completely, for it is your ticket to the stars. And beyond!

L. RON HUBBARD, FOUNDER

LRH: lrh Copyright (c) 1980

by L. Ron Hubbard

ALL RIGHTS RESERVED

Passive factors to consider in the evaluation of the OT-8 document authenticity

To begin discussing OT 8's authenticity it is appropriate to discuss Scientology's most vehemently asserted position that this document is not really one of their secret initiations. They claim it is a complete forgery and it does not in any way reflect the real OT 8 and the secret core initiations or secret religion of Scientology. They also claim that the real OT 8 materials have never left Scientology and nobody outside the highest of the highest inner few really knows what is in them.

One of the best places to start to evaluate the truthfulness of Scientology's avid denial of the authenticity OT 8 is their 30 year denial of another one of their secret initiations called OT 3. On OT 3 the initiate finds out that there was a huge galactic war 76 million years ago and that earth is a prison planet. The initiate also find out that he is really not one person, like he has always believed, but that he is a composite being that has thousands or tens of thousands of aliens from this old war imprisoned in their current body fighting for control of it.

In spite of former members and newspapers repeatedly publishing the actual OT 3, and in spite of the actual document being filed in court cases in the US and Europe, for 30 years Scientology as part its secret internal policy steadfastly stonewalled and denied OT 3 was OT 3. It was not until the recent 1995 copyright raids on former members and critics that Scientology was actually forced by the court copyright verification process to acknowledge the OT 3 that they had denied for 30 years was in fact their real OT 3.

Vaughn Young, a 20 year high level Scientology staff member and head of Scientology's U.S. public relations bureau, in his testimony in the Denver raid case stated that he was trained, and he trained his juniors to standardly lie and deny any leaks of secret scientology material. He said he was trained to say that the materials were not accurate, not real, forged or anything else that would discredit the security leaks.

There is also a policy that all intelligence division and other high level Scientology executives are trained on it is called TR-L. TR-L is a secret policy directive of Scientology to train its executives to lie convincingly when scientology is caught in embarrassing or criminal activities. It was seized by the FBI from Scientology's headquarters.

Intelligence Specialist Training Routine - TR-L

Purpose: To train the student to give a false statement with good TR-L. To train the student to outflow false data effectively. Position: Same as TR-1

Commands: Part 1 "Tell me a lie." Command given by coach. Part 2 interview type 2 WC by coach.

Training stress: In part 1 coach gives command, student originates a falsehood. Coach flunks for out TR-1 or TR-O. In part 2 coach asks questions of the student on his background or a subject. Student gives untrue data of a plausible sort that the student backs up with further explanatory data upon the coach's further questions. The coach flunks for out TR-O or TR-1, and for student fumbling on question answers. The student should be coached on a gradient until he or she can lie facily.

Short example: Coach: Where do you come from? Student: I come from the housewives committee on drug abuse. Coach: But you said earlier that you were single. Student: Well, actually I was married but am divorced. I have two kids in the suburbs where I am a housewife, in fact I'm a member of the P.T.A.

Coach: What town is that you live in? Student: West Brighton. Coach: But there is no public school in West Brighton. Student: I know. I send my children to school in Brighton, and that's where I am a P.T.A. member. Coach: Oh, and who is the chairman there? etc...

Another factor to consider when evaluating Scientology's denial of OT 8 is the potent nature of the document itself and its media effect on Scientology and Scientology's celebrity members and political supporters. OT 8 is such a security leak and PR nightmare for Scientology that when it was forced to acknowledge OT 3 and its other secret initiations after the most recent raids on F.A.C.T.net and other individuals in the court copyright verification process it is not unreasonable to believe that a decision was made to stonewall OT 8's authenticity as they had done for 30 years on OT 3 and publicly disown the document.

This is reasonable because Scientology could finally publicly acknowledge OT 3 because it had already slowly worked out its potent embarrassment value over a 30 year period of media republishing. OT 8 though is another issue altogether.

OT 8 is far beyond OT 3 in embarrassment value, is relatively unknown, and has worked almost none of its super potent embarrassment value. If Scientology chose to stonewall claiming OT 8 as its own, cover stories would have to be developed and drilled with its key PR and litigation handlers. It appears that in post raid confusion, because so many of the other Scientology secret initiations were being publicly acknowledged in court that not all Scientology's key staff were up to date and clear on the new OT 8 disavowal policy.

Here's the relevant excerpt from one of the early F.A.C.T.net raid trial transcripts: [Attorney for raid victim Arnie Lerma speaking:]

"We went through three of these documents, presented to him in their entirety. What did we find out? One that they designated as an infringement was this OT 8 document that Mr. Cooley [Scientology's attorney] speaks of with great passion, that it's a forgery. It's an outrageous slander against Jesus Christ.'

"They designated that and impounded it, Your Honor. They seized it from Mr. Lerma and they impounded it, the same document this they lambaste the Washington Post for printing excerpts of."

"They designated that and impounded it. . . What did they designate it? They designated it a copyright infringement, on the advice of Kendrick Moxon. [Another Scientology attorney] Why did they impound it? Because the court authorized them to impound copyright infringements. The court did not authorize them to impound "outrageous slanders", only copyright infringements. If it was impounded, either the Church of Scientology (acting on Moxon's advice) considered it a copyright infringement, or they exceeded their authority and broke the law."

"The document is a fake." [Scientology's attorney]

In which case RTC's lawyers broke the law, since they impounded something they did not consider a copyright infringement. It's a hell of a dilemma; did Moxon validate OT 8 or did he break the law?

Scientology was caught in a real bind in the raids because of the OT 8 document. It couldn't admit it was one of their copyrighted documents because of the PR nightmare. The only option was to commit a fraud on the court disown the document and hope they could get away with the fraud and the selective copyright infringement on documents that were not embarrassing to them.

The following is from Rich Leiby, a writer who first published excerpts of OT 8 in the Washington Post.

When Helena Kobrin and Warren McShane came to my door one Saturday evening (a few hours after the Lerma raid), I took the opportunity to ask them about OT 8. Helena Kobrin is a Scientologist and attorney high in Scientology's intelligence division. Warren McShane is the president of RTC the Scientology corporation that brought the copyright raids.

The conversation went like this:

Me: So what about OT 8--is that a real document?

Helena: It's probably a forgery.

Me: It sure reads like an HCO document and looks like one.

Helena: Well...

Warren McShane interrupting, seeming angry): It's a forgery, it's garbage.

Helena: Right, it's a forgery.

McShane: We're not claiming copyright on that.

Helena: Right.

Please note Helena K's initial vacillation. "Probably" a forgery. Seems to me she knew it was real and was momentarily confused as to whether she should abandon all copyright claims.

3.) Another factor to consider when evaluating Scientology's denial of OT 8 is not only their long term practice of denying everything, if even one period is misplaced, but their practice of regularly changing the contents, sequence and numbering of the secret OT initiation levels. For example, a few years ago OT 1 became OT 7 and a new OT 5 was sequenced in. There have been numerous other such switches.

Consequently, the O.T 8 numbering of the above OT 8 document does not necessarily mean that this is the current O.T. 8 being used by Scientology. When OT 8 first appeared in the early 1980's it was not broadly distributed and had no media republishing. Because no more than an estimated two dozen of Scientology's highest initiates have the security clearance to view a document of this level it would be relatively easy to change the OT numbering and sequencing after the security leak and insert a new OT 8.

In light of all the problems Scientology had when OT 3's security was broken, and in light of their years of bad experience trying to deny its authenticity, it again is not unreasonable that a decision was made right then and there to move OT 8 to a new higher OT level such as OT 15-20 and create a new lower OT 8 to give to the members that would help to create a plausible denial of the original OT 8.

This is real possibility considering Scientology's Machavellian history and its full intelligence agency capabilities. This move also helps improves future security leak problems in that the higher up the OT levels the initiate goes the more security and loyalty tests they must pass. At this post OT 8 leak period it is not unlikely that only a handful of the highest people in Scientology are deemed secure enough and spiritually advanced enough to know the real OT 8 identity of Hubbard and the real destiny of Scientology.

Using the OT 8 numbering switch and the creation of a new OT 8 Scientology in no basis to legitimately deny the OT 8 of this story is their OT 8. Another factor that may give this theory additional credibility is the counter-intelligence principle that if your were going to create a new misdirecting and misinformation OT 8 you would probably want to create one that is relatively innocuous cancels out the negatives of the old OT 8. It would be even better and would be a good cover story if it could be deliberately leaked out to cover the PR problems the earlier OT 8 was causing.

The following section purports to be a summary of the New OT 8 being given to current members. In this new OT 8 one of the end results is that the initiate is supposed to discover that Hubbard is really God. (Good intelligence reversal!) This new OT 8 comes from the paraphrased notes of a former member who claims to have had access to the materials. It is full of Scientology terminology. The 8th dynamic referred to is what would normally be called God.

OT VIII STUDY AND PROCEDURE, TOP SECRET DEBRIEF, 1991

>From recall this is a record of the full OT VIII procedure of the Church of Scientology given on the Free Winds ship as delivered in 1991. Security there is very tight with detectors at the doors so that no original data can be removed.

This debrief is something the Independent Field/Free Zone Scientology has been waiting many years to see. It is not the original nor is it a perfect record but it is accurate and will get the result if followed by a competent solo auditor who is flat on all earlier levels with all overts off.

The wording of the processes are exact to the best of my recall and the procedures are exact for sure. Any differences are extremely minor (if at all). I spent several weeks reconstructing all this from memory (needless to say I have an excellent memory as a result of the rundown).

I am breaking security as I disagree that this should only be released to an elite in Scientology. I do, however, ask it not be released to psyches or "squirrels" or anyone who will break the Independent Security Network and allow it to get back to the Church of Scientology. It would be best if they do not find out that we have it. Please treat this data responsibly. It is the key to the only truth possible.

The whole secret involves what truly is the relationship of the Supreme Being to each individual thetan. To simply say it's `me" is oversimplified to tears but has some truth to it. The real key is the perception and ability to have full certainty and, therefore, perception on all confusions and distortions of MEST (matter, energy, space, and time) and form and life units as well as the ability to perceive exact identity and its full relationship to its true source and history from its origin as the theta body, the true 8th Dynamic In order to truly view this as a present time beingness one has to Clean up, once and for all, his own confusions regarding these points. The key is being flat on all earlier levels and being honest with self as to the truth on each step of the rundown.

In doing this procedure one has to acknowledge the lie of time and persistence and the lie of the illusion that MEST is solid and unchangeable. Another key given is the fact that a being can exist independent of time and present time and can chose any point on the track as his present time. The PT (present time) body can confuse this, as attention to some degree is always hung up on the PT body. This fixes the thetan into one present time and one time stream, when in fact there are many as you will discover.

Do not attempt this rundown if you are incomplete on any earlier level, incomplete on or in need of "sec checks," (security checks) involved in any out ethics, PTS or involved in any pressing PT situations that call your attention back to this present time. If you are in need of review on any point above, get it before starting the rundown or it will miss and be meaningless or wasted.

If your attention is in any way governed by OT 7 (NOTs) or earlier materials on OT levels, this rundown will miss and be wasted. This also goes for out int. If interiorization/exteriorization is a concern at all, get reviewed and flattened on OT I to VII before attempting this rundown.

The techniques involve simple spotting techniques as in R2 processes or straightwire references.

Step One: Read and word clear Handbook for Preclears cover to cover.

Step Two: Do all steps and exercises in the above book and note reads on any terminals or items [presumably these are used in review or higher levels later]. Keep the ruds in.

Step Three: Listen to the History of Man tapes and star rate M4 the concepts in them (The Time Track of Theta).

Step Four: Clear the definition of `truth" and clay demo it [Tech Dictionary].

Step Five: Clay demo the concept of the theta line branching out toward PT from the "theta body" and how this inhibits exteriorization, ability, power and perception of truth. Clay demo what will happen if someone did OT VIII procedure who was not fully completed on OT VII (NOTs). Sort this out from the above data.

Step Six: Define "know-point" in the Tech Dictionary.

Step Seven: Study the early Dianetic Auditor Bulletin on straightwire in Tech Volume One. Study Creation of Human Ability references regarding spotting objectively and subjectively. Demo "recall," `spotting" and "return" and how these differ.

Step Eight: This is the processing section which is done solo. Do not fall into running pictures or incidents. In others words, do not use "recall" or "return," use spot" only.

[1] Fly the ruds.

[2] Clear and false data strip "truth," identity, time," place," "form" and event," each to EP. Restudy the definitions in the Tech Dictionary.

[3] Clear and False Data Strip the 8th Dynamic," God," "Infinity," 'self," anyone you have identified as a god and any other wording you may have for the 8th dynamic.

[4] Valence split (Similarity/Difference process) each answer on the reading questions below by alternately spotting differences and similarities between self and the terminal to a blow accompanied by a small blowdown F/N or larger.

[A] Spot a person or object in this L/T [lifetime] or on the backtrack you have identified as or who represented the 8th Dynamic to you. Valence split to EP and then recheck to an F/Ning question on call or thought. End the session for the day and recheck to ensure it's F/Ning the next day before continuing.

[B] Spot a person who looked/looks like you. Handle as above.

[C] Spot a person who looked/looks dissimilar to you. Handle as above.

[D] Spot a person who is how you wanted/want to be. Handle as above.

[E] Spot a person who is how you didn't want to be. Handle as above.

[F] Spot a person who you'd never want to be. Handle as above.

[G] Spot a person who you want to be. Handle as above.

[H] Spot a person who you identify as self [me]. Handle as above. End on major stable win on the subject of identity.

Step Nine:

Run as above with Valence Splitting, etc.

[1] Ruds as needed

[2] Spot a being who is close in true identity to you.

[3] Spot a being who has the same experiences as you.

[4] Spot a being who solves things as you have.

[5] Spot a being you are or have been junior or subordinate to as a thetan or in life.

[6] Spot a being who you are/have been senior to in life or as a thetan.

[7] Spot a person who postulates as you do.

[8] Spot a person who you postulate for.

[9] Spot a person who may have postulated for you.

[10] Spot the situation or problem each of the above beings has solved for you. Get prior confusion to the first time ever and spot the first moment of the first prior confusion.

End on major stable win on the subject audited; however, do Step 10 before proceeding.

Step Ten:

Use alternate repetitive straightwire.

End on wins. End section when nothing reads anymore and you have a major stable win.

[1] Spot a truth in self. Spot a truth in others.

[2] Have another spot a truth in you.

Have another spot a truth in himself/herself.

[3] Spot a reality you have solved with a lie.

Spot a reality you have not solved with a lie.

[4] Spot a reality you have substituted for a truth.

Spot a reality you have substituted for a lie.

[5] Spot a reality another has substituted for a truth.

Spot a reality another has substituted for a lie.

[6] Spot a reality you postulated for another.

What did it solve for you?

What did it solve for him/her?

[7] Spot a reality another has postulated for you.

What did it solve for him/her?

What did it solve for you?

[8] Have another spot a reality another has postulated in himself/herself.

What did it solve for him/her?

What did it solve for you?

[9] Locate a reality you found safe.

Spot the truth about it. (to a blow, small blowdown F/N or larger)

[10] Locate a reality another found safe.

Spot the truth about it. (to a blow, small blowdown F/N or larger)

[11] Locate a reality another found safe for you.

Spot the truth about it. (to a blow, small blow down F/N or larger)

Have the other person spot the truth about it. (to a blow, small blow down

F/N or larger)

[12] Locate a reality you have found safe for another.

Spot the truth about it. (to a blow small blow down F/N or larger)

Have the other person spot the truth about it. (to a blow, small blow down

F/N or larger)

[13] Spot a reality you can create for yourself.

Postulate a truth for it.

[14] Spot a reality you can create for another.

Postulate a truth for it.

[15] Spot a reality you can have another create for you.

Postulate a truth for it.

Note: Steps [16] to [19] are a bracket. Each set should blow down on the let go step. End on a win, cog or big change and then do the next step.

[16] Create a future for someone.

Place them in it.

Postulate some truth about it.

Now let go of it

[17] Create a future for yourself.

Place yourself in it.

Place another in it.

Postulate some truth about it.

Now let go of it.

[18] Recall a truth you agreed didn't happen.

Spot the exact truth in it.

Spot any lie in it.

Now let go of it.

[19] Spot present time moving forward.

Notice thetans agreeing with it.

Spot any agreements you have with it.

Now let go of it.

Spot a different present time.

Notice thetans agreeing with it.

Spot any agreements you have with it.

Now let go of it.

Spot a different present time.

Notice thetans agreeing with it.

Spot any agreements you have with it.

Now let go of it.

(Repeat to a small blowdown F/N, big win)

Step Eleven:

Do all steps to full EP. End on all wins until persistent F/N dies down.

[A] Spot each portion of your theta that was abandoned.

[B] Spot each portion of your theta you asserted was not yours.

[C] Spot each portion of theta you asserted was yours that wasn't.

[D] Spot your PT creations in this MEST universe.

[E] Spot PT creations that were not yours in this MEST universe.

[F] Spot any old creations that are hung up.

Spot the truth about these to a blow.

Note: Don't concentrate on the untruths, just the truths.

[G] Spot yourself as a source for various things in this and other universes to full certainty.

[H] Spot another 8th Dynamic creation as independent from yourself.

Spot where it is.

[I] Spot points where you have experienced joy or ecstasy in creating in this lifetime and on the back track.

[J] Spot other beings you feel high ARC or love for.

Spot the truths in these beings. (each to a read F/N)

[K] Spot some theta you have created.

[L] Create some theta. Uncreate it. (to a read as it blows off however small it is)

Redo A to L above until, the TA floats or a true unkillable persistent F/N appears and you have had a revelation regarding truth or 8th Dynamic creation. This is the end of OT VIII.

Note: I wasn't privy to any C/Sing or review techniques or other EP data. Beyond this there is no confidential EP to my knowledge.

Active factors to consider in the evaluation of the "Confidential Student Briefing" original 1980 OT-8 document authenticity

1.) The OT 8 "Confidential Student Briefing" document of this story has been verified in the early 1980's through an Episcopal minister in Baltimore with recent high ranking Scientology defectors. The defectors verifying this confidential document did have the requisite security clearances and initiatestaff positions in Scientology to have had access to this document.

Efforts to get these defectors to go public and disclose their identities to others besides the minister have not been successful. Their given reason for verifying the OT 8 document privately but not publicly is fear. It is not hard to understand this fear if you understand Scientology's history of extreme actions against its perceived enemies and that the content of OT 8 constitutes the most secret of secrets and "holy of holies" of this group.

2.) The context of all the previous materials presented in this story. The authenticity of the OT 8 statements should be particularly evaluated in the light of Hubbard's previous statements about the subject matter. OT 8 is ideologically congruent with his earlier secret statements and the deceptions of classical Satanism. The OT 8 concept of the Devil coming to mankind in the guise and reversal of an angel of light is common to biblical prophesy."

3.) The style of OT 8 is very much like Hubbard's style. His defamatory remarks about people's sexual habits are part of a long pattern in his dealings with people he considered his "enemies". The mood of urgency and impending calamity are similar to many of his other writings. The extra terrestrial bodiless wars remind one of the content and tone of OT 3 and his writings in his earlier books like "The History of Man."

Comments from former members

"I spent twelve years in Scientology. I progressed to the "secret upper levels" of Scientology which are chiefly involved with the exorcism of demons. I didn't realize when I got into Scientology that I would be involved in demonic and satanic practices when I got onto these upper levels. Nor was it told to me that L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology, was a practicing Satanist, and that this was his religion, and the "religion" behind Scientology. The facts are carefully concealed from the beginning Scientologist." A former member.

"I believe that Scientology is an evil organization involving among other things Satanism, brainwashing, slave labor, and physical and emotional abuse. I believe that the only moral thing for me to do is to try to expose this situation to the public." A former member.

"As a recovering Scientologist, I must raise an ethical objection to the desire to control the minds of others without their consent. This is the purpose of many Scientology procedures and can be seen either as deliberate "mind control" or as the black magician's contempt of others. Scientology is a curious hybrid of magic and psychology. After all, Hubbard boasted "we can brainwash faster than the Russians - 20 seconds to total amnesia" A former member.

"I did most of his advanced occult initiations, and I was a member for 25 years. We are presently building a worldwide network to make known the actual intentions of Hubbard's organization as they relate to their views on other religions. Scientology is extremely antipathetic to ALL the Major World religions and in many countries they are actively infiltrating unstable governments and seeking to establish Scientology as a new State Religion. We invite clergymen and lay people of all faiths to join us in this project. We recognize Scientology's right to practice its religion, but we feel we have a moral and ethical duty to inform world citizens of its hidden agenda and its extreme antipathy toward religions, especially Christianity." A former member.

In conclusion, it is extremely difficult and dangerous to drag a secret society's practices out into the light of day. Part one of this story has attempted to give the reader the available contextual information that could be relevant to OT 8. In light of all the materials presented so far it is you the reader who will decide the probable level of authenticity of OT 8. Until a brave defector comes forward to break the fear grip this group exerts on its highest level initiate defectors this is the proceeding is the best summary that is possible at this time.

It is interesting to note Scientology's Office of Special Affairs (its intelligence division) has begun flooding the Internet newsgroup called alt.religion.scientology with endorsements from purported religious scholars from various denominations who offered their opinions that Scientology is a religion, and not in conflict with mainstream Christian and non Christian religions. As the testimonials are unsigned and undated, and most of the authors are unheard of, it is difficult, if not impossible, to authenticate these statements. It is doubtful if the religious scholars used in paid for Scientology religious authentication articles have had any exposure to the information of this story.

In conclusion, it is extremely difficult and dangerous to drag a secret society's practices out into the light of day. Part one of this story has attempted to give the reader the available contextual information that could be relevant to OT 8. In light of all the materials presented so far it is you the reader who will decide the probable level of authenticity of OT 8. Until a brave defector comes forward to break the fear grip this group exerts on its highest level initiate defectors this is the proceeding is the best summary that is possible at this time.

It is interesting to note Scientology's Office of Special Affairs (its intelligence division) has begun flooding the Internet newsgroup called alt.religion.scientology with endorsements from purported religious scholars from various denominations who offered their opinions that Scientology is a religion, and not in conflict with mainstream Christian and non Christian religions. As the testimonials are unsigned and undated, and most of the authors are unheard of, it is difficult, if not impossible, to authenticate these statements. It is doubtful if the religious scholars used in paid for Scientology religious authentication articles have had any exposure to the information of this story.

Is Scientology the "Church of Evil," the defacto "Brotherhood of the Beast" or "the World's Wickedest Religion"? CAREFULLY consider the parting quotes about Scientology by legal authorities and law enforcement that may help you to deal with these and other questions.

"The government is satisfied that Scientology is socially harmful. It alienates members of families from each other and attributes squalid and disgraceful motives to all who oppose it; its authoritarian principles and practice are a potential menace to the personality and well being of those so deluded as to become followers; above all, its methods can be a serious danger to the health of those who submit to them... There is no power under existing law to prohibit the practice of scientology; but the government has concluded that it is so objectionable that it would be right to take all steps within its power to curb its growth." - Kenneth Robinson, British Minister of Health

"[the court record is] replete with evidence [that Scientology] is nothing in reality but a vast enterprise to extract the maximum amount of money from its adepts by pseudo scientific theories... and to exercise a kind of blackmail against persons who do not wish to continue with their sect.... The organization clearly is schizophrenic and paranoid, and this bizarre combination seems to be a reflection of its founder, L. Ron Hubbard." - Judge Breckenridge, Los Angeles Superior Court

"Scientology is evil; its techniques are evil; its practice is a serious threat to the community, medically, morally, and socially; and its adherents are sadly deluded and often mentally ill... (Scientology is) the world's largest organization of unqualified persons engaged in the practice of dangerous techniques which masquerade as mental therapy." - Justice Anderson, Supreme Court of Victoria, Australia

"In addition to violating and abusing its own members' civil rights, the organization over the years with its "fair game" doctrine1 has harassed and abused those persons not in the church whom it perceives as enemies." - Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Paul Breckenridge, June 1984, in the Gerry Armstrong case.

"Scientology is both immoral and socially obnoxious... it is corrupt sinister and dangerous. It is corrupt because it is based on lies and deceit and has its real objective money and power for Mr. Hubbard... It is sinister because it indulges in infamous practices both to its adherents who do not toe the line unquestioningly and to those who criticize it or oppose it. It is dangerous because it is out to capture people and to indoctrinate and brainwash them so they become the unquestioning captives and tools of the cult, withdrawn from ordinary thought, living, and relationships with others." - Justice Latey, ruling in the High Court of London ruling in B and G Wards,"

"The crime committed by these defendants is of a breath and scope previously unheard of. No building, office, desk, or file was safe from their snooping and prying. No individual or organization was free from their despicable conspiratorial minds. The tools of their trade were miniature transmitters, lock picks, secret codes, forged credentials and any other device they found necessary to carry out their conspiratorial schemes." - U.S. federal prosecutor's memorandum to the judge urging stiff jail sentences for 9 top leaders of Scientology who had pleaded guilty to criminal charges for infiltrating over 100 U.S. government agencies.

"In my opinion the church has one of the most effective intelligence operations in the U.S. rivaling even that of the FBI." - Ted Gunderson, former head of the FBI's Los Angeles office, quoted in TIME May 6, 1991

"Substantial evidence supports the conclusion Scientology leaders made the deliberate decision to ruin Wollersheim economically and possible psychologically.... We do not mean to suggest Scientology's retributive program as described in the evidence of this case represented a full scale modern day "inquisition." Nevertheless there are some parallels in purpose and effect. "Fair game" like the "inquisition" targeted "heretics."

"During trial, Wollersheim's experts testified Scientology's "auditing" and "disconnect" practices constituted `brainwashing' and `thought reform' akin to what the Chinese and North Koreans practiced on American prisoners of war.

"A religious practice which takes place in the context of this level of coercion2 has less religious value than one the recipient engages in voluntarily. Even more significantly, it poses a greater threat to society to have coerced religious practices inflicted on its citizens.

"Church practices conducted in a coercive environment are not qualified to be voluntary religious practices entitled to first amendment religious freedom guarantees....We hold that the state has a compelling interest in allowing its citizens to recover for serious emotional injuries they suffer through religious practices they are coerced into accepting.

"Such conduct is too outrageous to be protected under the constitution and too unworthy to be privileged under the law of torts." - California appellate court, 2nd district, 7th division, Wollersheim v. Church of Scientology of California, Civ. No. B023193 Cal. Super. (1986)

"Evidentiary fact: The Church of Scientology is currently engaged in a nationwide conspiracy to impede and obstruct municipal, state and federal taxing authorities, by adopting a religious and charitable guise to avoid payment of taxes.

"Scientology's internal policies state: "They (the public) want ministers. We will show them what ministers look like" (Vol. 1 p.41). "Churches are looked upon as reform groups. Therefore, we must act like a reform group" (Vol.1 p.196).

"Scientology has nothing to do with religion. The Church did not adopt the religious guise until it was necessary to seek First Amendment protection (Vol.4 p.405).

"Scientology uses a religious image checklist designed to falsely portray a religious image to mislead officials (Vol. 2 p.238,239).

"Church policy instructs members to lie to inquiring officials (Vol.1 p.226,227)." - Commissioners of the City of Clearwater, Florida, public hearings, May 5-10, 1982

" ...the teaching of Scientology and the practice of Scientology will result in the commission of many offenses and may well result in the commission of many others." - Supreme Court of Victoria, Australia, Justice Brookings, 1982

"You can be merciless whenever your will is crossed and you have the right to be merciless."3 - L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology. Documentary evidence in the Armstrong case...


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#1. To: FormerLurker (#0)

There are two main types of Satanism, classical Satanism and neo-Satanism. Although Scientology contains many elements of neo-Satanism this story will focus on the classical elements.

I could write a book on this post.

The 2 main types of Satanism are Traditional/Spiritual/Theistic, and Neo/Atheistic. I don't recall ever hearing the "classical" designation before. But I can't say it's not used. I've only been a Satanist for about a year.

In classical Satanism there are numerous elements that help to characterize it as a classical satanic church. One of those elements is the prediction of an ultimate conflict between God and God's representatives (pure good) and Lucifer and his representatives (pure evil). Classical Satanists identify with the devil or Antichrist and believe or act in opposition or with disgust to the values, ritual and symbols represented by the Christ figure and the values, ritual and symbols of traditional Christianity.

Nonsense.

What the author is describing is called "inverted christianity". That is not satanism. That is a bunch of kids rebelling against mommy and daddy.

These are the idiots that make the news. They think Satanists are evil because that is what they are taught by the church specifically and society generally, so they try to be evil and usually succeed.

But there is disgust with christianity and its symbols. Look at what they have done. Disgust is a natural and proper reaction.

What I mean is this. The author says "God and God's representatives (pure good) and Lucifer and his representatives (pure evil)."

Now, according to the bible, what's the body count? How many does the jew "god" murder (yes, MURDER), vs how many does his adversary murder? Use the bible; it's the "good book" after all. Don't depend on a rascally Satanists to tell you.

Is murder "pure good"?

If the entire article (which I didn't read) is based on this, there are some problems here.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-02-25   8:13:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: PSUSA2 (#1)

These are the idiots that make the news. They think Satanists are evil because that is what they are taught by the church specifically and society generally, so they try to be evil and usually succeed.

Those who call themselves satanists do so full well knowing what the name "satan" infers, and implicity define themselves as those who revere pure evil.

As far as the Bible, I don't view it is the "Word of God", so biblical references or arguments have no effect on my opinion.

One can "rebel" against organized religion without worshipping the devil or calling oneself a "satanist".


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-25   17:31:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: PSUSA2 (#1)

If the entire article (which I didn't read) is based on this, there are some problems here.

There's a WHOLE lot more to it than that.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-25   17:32:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: FormerLurker (#2)

Those who call themselves satanists do so full well knowing what the name "satan" infers, and implicity define themselves as those who revere pure evil.

Infers?

Satan is only a title that means adversary, accuser, slanderer. So who are we the adversaries of? Who gave Satan that title? The jews.

Now, tell me about that "pure evil".

As far as the Bible, I don't view it is the "Word of God", so biblical references or arguments have no effect on my opinion.

It doesn't matter how you view it. What matters is how the jew and christian believers view it. It's not your "good book", but it is theirs.

So, I revere "pure evil" huh? How is that possible. It's been at least a week since I made baby fat candles.

One can "rebel" against organized religion without worshipping the devil or calling oneself a "satanist".

Satanism is not about rebellion. Rebellion might get a person out of church but that 'person can go right back into it. Lots of people "backslide".

Now if people decide not to have anything to do with christianity, satanism, or any other view, of course they can do it. But it's not based on rebellion. Can't keep rebelling against a BS religion forever. It's time to advance and learn. One way to do that is thru Satanism. But there are other ways.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-02-25   17:56:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: PSUSA2 (#4)

Satan is only a title that means adversary, accuser, slanderer.

Only if you dig into the Bible. The modern, common everyday meaning is what everyone takes the name to mean, and that is the devil. On another note, do you see yourself as an "adversary, accuser, or slanderer"?

If you aren't into worshipping the devil or performing evil works, you could call yourself an agnostic, an atheist, or something similar.

It's like picking the title "murderer" and trying to tell people it really means you love furry animals.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-25   18:28:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: FormerLurker (#5)

On another note, do you see yourself as an "adversary, accuser, or slanderer"?

Yes I do.

But when it comes to "slander", only a kike would call telling the truth about them "slander".

The modern, common everyday meaning

...

It's like picking the title "murderer"

Murder meant the same back then as it does now.

You're limiting the word "satan" to the modern definition. Who changed that definition? The church. Just as the changed the word "daemon" to "demon". Or "aeonian" to "eternal", or "sheol" into "hell". They changed many things.

Who's evil? The church or those that stand against it? You know what the church has done, but you don't know much about satanism. You still hang on to the churches definition(s). That's your choice.

AFA being a satanist, I am not afraid of that word, any more than I'm afraid of being called antisemitic or racist.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-02-25   18:45:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: FormerLurker (#5) (Edited)

His Cabalistic studies led him in 1898 to the OGD (another secret society.) Crowley rose quickly in the order, but was refused initiation to Adeptus Minor because of his moral turpitude (in this case homosexuality).

just curious.

Did you notice that?

Are you a Crowley disciple? He studied it too. A lot of his work was based on it. IT's all incomprehensible to me.

I agree with you on scientology, but that article is crap when it comes to Satanism.

Crowley was not a satanist. He was into just about everything. Calling him eclectic would be a huge understatement.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-02-25   18:49:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: PSUSA2 (#7)

There are people who use such knowledge for good, and there are others who use it for evil.

Crowley used it for evil, and many others have followed his lead.

Thing is, evil leads to destruction, and if that is what YOU follow, you'll pay for it in one way or another in the end. Have read the parts of him driving his wives to suicide or madness?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-25   19:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: FormerLurker (#8) (Edited)

There are people who use such knowledge for good, and there are others who use it for evil.

Knowledge is neutral. One persons "good" is another persons "evil". Whose definitions should I honor? Yours? Not likely.

No one "follows" evil, anymore than one can follow "good". You are using the churches definitions of these terms. To the church, I am evil incarnate. But I harm no one. I'm "evil" in their eyes because I am not under their control anymore.

IMO you are excusing the Crowley = Kabbalah = satanism reference in the story because the main thrust is against scientology. If it wasn't for that, imo you probably wouldn't have posted it.

NOt too long ago there was another post or 2 that made the link between Kabbala and satanism, if I remember right. And you didn't like it one bit.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-02-25   19:40:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: PSUSA2 (#9)

One persons "good" is another persons "evil". Whose definitions should I honor? Yours? Not likely.

So murder can be "good" in certain eyes, eh? Well yeah, if you're a psychopath.

What it comes down to is that if you harm someone, it is not good. That could even include yourself.

You may have been reading books written by those who wish to lure unsuspecting people into things that can and WILL cause harm, for the sole purpose of further polluting the astral world with venom and darkness.

You're the only person who can control your destiny. Perhaps you should consider the possibilities and do a bit of reading in terms of the origins of whatever information you've read, and see where it leads.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-26   14:12:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: PSUSA2 (#9)

No one "follows" evil

There are those who do, knowlingly or not.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-26   14:13:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: FormerLurker (#10)

So murder can be "good" in certain eyes, eh?

No, but killing can be.

I might be a cute cuddly teddy bear, but I know that not everyone is as kindhearted as I am. Killing can be necessary.

But consider this. Suppose I ventilate some scumbag that was intent on doing me or someone else great bodily harm.

Would his family consider me a "evil" murderer? Probably.

One persons good is another persons evil. The definitions of good and evil are not as absolute as you seem to think they are.

You may have been reading books written by those who wish to lure unsuspecting people into things that can and WILL cause harm

You're sounding like a christian. Sorry, but you are.

I don't respond to fear, or dire threats. If the christians can't scare me with "eternal torture in hell", then nothing will affect me.

When it comes to reading material, good material is hard to come by. Most occult books aren't worth the bandwidth it takes to download them. I'd say 9 out of 10 are total crap.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-02-26   14:22:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: PSUSA2 (#9)

IMO you are excusing the Crowley = Kabbalah = satanism reference in the story because the main thrust is against scientology. If it wasn't for that, imo you probably wouldn't have posted it.

For quite a few years, decades perhaps, I've been aware of Crowley's fondness of horrific acts.

Kabbalah has nothing to do with Crowley, although he DID use whatever knowledge he had gained for evil. Knowledge is like a gun. It is what is done with that knowledge that matters.

In Jewish and Christian Kabbalah, the body of knowledge is approached with reverence to God and is tied to the religion itself.

In Hermetic Qabbalah, the knowledge is not restricted to the framework of religion, but stretches back to Egyptian mysteries.

In all of the above types, there is a requirement that the student be pure of mind, body, and soul, otherwise negative energies can form and take control of the person.

Crowley was obviously one who was not pure. And I would venture to take a guess and assume that people who call themselves satanists are as impure as he. So those who dabble in "black magick", are basically begging for harm to come to them, one way or another.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-26   14:25:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: PSUSA2 (#12)

But consider this. Suppose I ventilate some scumbag that was intent on doing me or someone else great bodily harm.

So when Scientology "soldiers" murder those who speak out against it, or those who try to escape it, is that "good" or "bad" in your eyes?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-26   14:27:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: FormerLurker (#0)

Hubbard, who was a third-rate science-fiction writer, made a bet (perhaps with Robert Heinlein) that he could create his own religion. So he did, started to believe his own B.S., and went crazy.

There is no Satanism in Scientology. It's just a crackpot cult, is all.

"You shall have fun, no matter what you do." -- Turtle

Turtle  posted on  2012-02-26   14:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Turtle (#15)

There is no Satanism in Scientology. It's just a crackpot cult, is all.

I think I have heard that story before, that Hubbard created his own religion on a bet. Don't know how true it is though.

However, by any stretch of the imagination, there is PLENTY of satanism involved in Scientology, considering Hubbard thought he WAS satan, according to his own son, Ron Hubbard Jr..

His son also described how his father would have him take phenobarbitol when he was a young boy and involved him in satanic rituals.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-26   14:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: FormerLurker (#13)

In all of the above types, there is a requirement that the student be pure of mind, body, and soul, otherwise negative energies can form and take control of the person.

You do have a fondness for absolutes.

"pure good", "pure evil", "pure of mind, body, and soul".

No one is "pure". Unless you think they are. Do you? If so, describe that purity.

If not, then "evil" energies will get everyone that takes the leap.

And when it comes to Crowley, I am suspicious of anyone that claims to be an expert on him. Most of his works that I read (or glanced at) are not written in plain everyday english. He uses metaphors like they are going out of style. He uses obscure references to his and others works. IOW, he is very hard to understand. To me most of his works are impossible to understand.

But there are some works that are easier to understand, like Magic in Theory and Practice. Notice that I said "easier", not "easy". He set out to write that so people could understand it, but from what I understand he wasn't entirely happy with that work.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-02-26   15:14:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: PSUSA2 (#17)

Years ago I knew a person who owned Crowley's book "Magic in Theory and Practice". He said that Crowley intentionally put in "blinds", where a knowledgeable person would see past what he had actually written and know what he really meant, whereas a casual reader would see something totally different, and wrong. Performing things in the "wrong" way could lead to dire consequences.

It is very well documented what Crowley was about, and there are books on the subject. He was not "good" or "pure" by any means.

Anyone who calls himself the "Beast 666" has more than few psychological and spiritual issues, and certainly shouldn't be playing around with extremely powerful and unforgiving forces.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-26   15:23:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: FormerLurker (#18) (Edited)

intentionally put in "blinds", where a knowledgeable person would see past what he had actually written and know what he really meant, whereas a casual reader would see something totally different, and wrong. Performing things in the "wrong" way could lead to dire consequences.

Only if you consider nothing happening to be "dire" consequence.

Blinds are nothing new in occult books. But it would be interesting to know what blinds Crowley used in that book. Too bad your acquaintance is not here to answer up.

If all it took for getting rich and famous, with top notch pussy at your command, was some bats eyes and newt toes, and say a few words in an unknown language, and end it all with a hearty "So Mote It Be!", then everyone would do it. But I'm learning that it is not quite that simple...

Now, about that "purity" you mentioned. What about it?

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-02-26   15:41:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: PSUSA2 (#19)

Now, about that "purity" you mentioned. What about it?

It's about having a pure mind and soul. There are ways to accomplish that. However, you won't find purity while professing to be a satanist. You'd actually want to find God, and cleanse yourself of garbage which would interfere with that process.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-26   18:04:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: PSUSA2 (#19)

Only if you consider nothing happening to be "dire" consequence.

More than "nothing" might happen, depending on what you are attempting. It might not be perceptable, but it may lead to certain things changing in your life for the worse.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-26   18:13:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: FormerLurker (#20)

It's about having a pure mind and soul. There are ways to accomplish that.

There are ways to purify, true enough. People carry around baggage; some more than others, and it is best to be rid of it. But name one person that was ever pure. That is a relative and subjective term.

One way to do this purification is to say something like this, and mean it:

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http://theisticsatanism.com/geifodd/exorcism.html

Please take note of the following before attempting this Exorcism:

If you are new to Satanism, it is very important that you REFRAIN from performing this rite until you have been a Satanist for at least a few years. This is not something to be performed lightly, and it requires a stabilized Satanic mindset in order to be conducted correctly. The stabilization process may take anywhere from a year to a decade in some cases. I believe that premature performance of this rite can cause some very serious complications, and anyone who is new or has just begun in Satanism should keep their spiritual options open for a while before making any firm commitments to the Prince of Darkness. The following rite requires a certain degree of commitment that novices naturally do not possess.

For more experienced Satanists who feel they are ready to perform this rite, please keep in mind that if using the name "Jehovah" seems inappropriate to you for whatever reason(s), please feel free to replace it with whatever synonym for the Judeo-Christian/Islamic god that you are most comfortable with (some examples would be "Allah," "Biblegod," "the God of Abraham," "Enslaver" and "the Tyrant God").

In the name of Azazel most holy,

Great Satan, almighty Lucifer!
I hereby command that the spirit of Jehovah
Depart from my mind, my body,
And my soul at once!

Begone Jehovah, thou foul spirit of

Deception, hypocrisy and ignorance!
By the midnight brilliance of Lucifer the Lord,

I recognize thee for the pitiful vampire thou art,

And I invoke the power of thy Adversary to bind thee
And keep thee from infringing upon the freedom of my soul!

Get thee behind me, Jehovah!

Get thee behind me, ENSLAVER!
Thou art naught but a vengeful ghost
To the ever-jubilant God of this World!

In the name of Azazel, I reject thee!

In the name of Satan, I reject thee!

In the name of Lucifer, I reject thee!

Depart, foul Jehovah! Depart from my life and from my soul!

Thou cannot refuse my command, for it is no less
Than a servant and child of the Prince of Darkness Himself
Who commands you!

Begone you vile spirit, and leave me in peace!

In the name of Azazel the Prince,

I cast thee OUT!

Hail Azazel,

Hail Satan,
Hail Lucifer!

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Interesting disclaimer. I haven't been a Satanist for "a few years", but I would have no trouble performing this. I already have done something similar. It was very liberating. It is one way to tell the kike "god" to get the fuck out.

Now, as for there being a True God that created the universe and all in it? I can see that. It's certainly possible.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-02-26   18:47:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: PSUSA2 (#22)

That's a pretty sure fire way to end up with demonic forces controlling you.

Purification involves switching to a vegetarian diet, casting out impure and immoral thoughts, using the elements, various symbols, angelic names, and Holy names of God to banish negative energies.

But it's your soul, "do what thou wilt", if you can deal with the repercussions.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-26   20:40:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: FormerLurker (#23)

Purification involves switching to a vegetarian diet, casting out impure and immoral thoughts, using the elements, various symbols, angelic names, and Holy names of God to banish negative energies.

Or u could just watch TeeVee.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-02-26   21:19:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: All (#24)

Purification involves switching to a vegetarian diet, casting out impure and immoral thoughts

was good with it all till this.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-02-26   21:21:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: FormerLurker (#0)

Scientology functions as a swinger's club for the Hollywood crowd, I had a link for that assertion on my previous computer.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2012-02-26   21:27:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: PSUSA2 (#22)

What that little ritual indicates is that whoever follows it DOES in fact worship satan and lucifer. Since Lucifer is revered in your prayer right along with Satan, it appears that you would need to be a true anti-christian, since Christians are the ones who associate Lucifer with Satan. You should know that is not what the name originally meant.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-26   21:37:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: tom007 (#25)

was good with it all till this.

It's not something one can take half-heartedly. It is actually a life-changing experience, and is not an easy path to follow in relation to modern comforts and pleasures.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-26   21:39:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: X-15 (#26)

Scientology functions as a swinger's club for the Hollywood crowd, I had a link for that assertion on my previous computer.

My world is turned upside down.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-02-26   21:45:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: X-15 (#26)

Scientology functions as a swinger's club for the Hollywood crowd

Selling your soul can buy all sorts of instant pleasure, it's just a matter of what happens after that.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-02-26   22:19:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: FormerLurker (#27)

What that little ritual indicates is that whoever follows it DOES in fact worship satan and lucifer. Since Lucifer is revered in your prayer right along with Satan,

Lucifer is not a hebrew word, it's Latin. It appears in the bible only one time and it does not refer to satan but to the king of Babylon. The word "Lucifer", especially used as a proper name, does not even belong in the bible.

Christians are the ones who associate Lucifer with Satan.

In short, I don't give a fuck what xtians believe.

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059%3Aentry%3Dlucifer

lkc-fer , fra, frum, adj. lux-fero,

I. light-bringing: “itaque ut apud Graecos Dianam, eamque Luciferam, sic apud nostros Junonem Lucinam in pariendo invocant,Cic. N. D. 2, 27, 68: “pars Lunae,Lucr. 5, 726: “equi,the horses of Luna, Ov. H. 11, 46: “manus,” i. e. of Lucina, id. ib. 20, 192.— Poet., bringing safety, Prud. Psych. 625.— Hence,
II. Subst.: Lkc-fer , fri, m.
A. The morning-star, the planet Venus: “stella Lucifer interdiu, noctu Hesperus ita circumeunt,Varr. R. R. 3, 5, 17: stella Veneris, quae ¦ÉÃÆÌÁ¿Â Graece, Latine dicitur Lucifer, cum antegreditur solem, cum subsequitur autem Hesperos, Cic. N. D. 2, 20, 53: “si dormire incipis ortu Luciferi,Juv. 8, 12; 13, 158; cf. Plin. 2, 8, 6, § 36; Tib. 1, 10 (9), 62; Ov. Tr. 1, 3, 71.—
B. The fabled son of Aurora and Cephalus, and father of Ceyx, Hyg. Astr. 2, 42; Ov. M. 11, 271; 346; “acc. to others,a son of Jupiter, Serv. Verg. A. 4, 130.—
C. Poet. transf., day: “memento Venturum paucis me tibi Luciferis,Prop. 2, 15 (3, 12), 28: “omnis,Ov. F. 1, 46: “tres,id. ib. 3, 877.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-02-27   7:44:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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