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Title: RP draws 4k students at Michigan State University (2-27)
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Published: Feb 27, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-02-27 19:41:35 by Jethro Tull
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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Ha...

Only the offspring of scruffy American masses like Paul. They dont own any newspapers or TV stations.

Does Kissinger like him, does Soros like him, does ACLU like him?????

Only the little people that pay taxes like Paul.

Nixons, Eisenhowers, Kennedys etc etc love Obama. You mere citizens have a problem.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-02-27   20:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Cynicom (#1)

Only the offspring of scruffy American masses like Paul.

Remember Cyni, it was the offspring of the scruffy Americans that stopped the MIC in it's tracks after 58,000 (+) kids were killed for nothing in Vietnam.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-02-27   21:23:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

Remember Cyni, it was the offspring of the scruffy Americans...

Fix that for you.

"Remember Cyni, it was the offspring of the scruffy Americans,... organized, directed, motivated and paid by the leftwing Jews/communists...that stopped the MIC in it's tracks after 58,000 (+) kids were killed for nothing in Vietnam.

Jethro...During my lifetime there was activism against war, twice, Korea and Viet Nam, the common denominator was we were killing communists.

We are now coming up on twenty years of war, endless war WITHOUT A WHIMPER OF OPPOSITION FROM ANY AMERICANS.

We are killing the enemies of Israel Jethro, not its red army.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-02-27   22:03:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#3)

"Remember Cyni, it was the offspring of the scruffy Americans,... organized, directed, motivated and paid by the leftwing Jews/communists...that stopped the MIC in it's tracks after 58,000 (+) kids were killed for nothing in Vietnam.

And these 4k at MSU are Jew inspired, anti-war communists? And yes, there are countless MILLIONS more kids their age who are the antithesis of what you described, who all have signed on to Paul's non intervention foreign policy. Please don't take this wrong, but this is a good thing. All the research in the world can't make you to look out your window, today, but IMO it would be healthy.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-02-27   22:14:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Jethro Tull (#4)

And these 4k at MSU are Jew inspired, anti-war communists?

Not at all.

ON the other side, do we see them in the streets demanding an end to this endless war?????? Of course not Jethro.

These are right wing/conservatives, leaderless and unstimulated. They do not burn cars nor firebomb businesses.

Two entirely different cultures, both with different agendas. I do not recall in my lifetime any conservative movement engaged in burning and looting to carry their viewpoint.''It has always been the left Jethro and surely those four thousand kids will firebomb no one.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-02-27   22:27:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#5)

These are right wing/conservatives, leaderless and unstimulated.

Wrong. There's where you really need to get out and meet some of these kids. They are neither right or left wing, but rather a small (L) libertarian mix as best as I can tell. You'd insult them highly by calling them right wing/conservatives. And I'm sorry they haven't taken to the streets yet, but Adam Kokesh did last Monday in Washington when he mustered the Vets who support RP in DeeCee. Just because the whore media didn't cover it doesn't mean things are happening.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-02-27   22:35:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#5)

Cyni, these youth are responding to Ron Paul's foreign policy (anti-war) message as well as his anti-FedRes/economics message. can you recall any other candidate in recent history who attracts these kinds of crowds? i can't.

christine  posted on  2012-02-27   22:56:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#6)

Ha...

I guess I will have to dust off the olde history books.

Colleges have been incubators for social causes for a very long time.

WE HERE AT 4UM HAVE SUPPORTED THE SPAWN OF SUCH INSTITUTIONS FOR A LONG TIME. I CALL YOUR ATTENTION to OUR SUPPORT AND VOTES FOR THE BIGGEST WAR MONGER OF MY TIME, GEORGE BUSH.

Bush was billed and sold to us as a staunch conservative. We made NO anti war marches nor protests, we hated to admit we had been duped.

That endless war continues, we do not, did not march, there are no mass college students marching. Simple reason Jethro. Different culture and there IS NO BINDING LINKS THAT ARE WELL FINANCED AND ORGANIZED.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-02-27   22:57:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#8)

Speak for yourself Cyni. I opposed Bush the first time he ran. I had the scumbag read like a beginner setting on 4 of a kind.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-27   23:02:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#8)

we do not, did not march, there are no mass college students marching

maybe a certain event that happened on september 11, 2001, had something to do with the lack of marches, do you think?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-02-27   23:02:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#8)

I CALL YOUR ATTENTION to OUR SUPPORT AND VOTES FOR THE BIGGEST WAR MONGER OF MY TIME, GEORGE BUSH.

Bush was billed and sold to us as a staunch conservative.

I never voted for a Bush, but the perversion of the word conservative has taken a twist or two in the past two decades. RP is the true paleoconservative in this race, but not to confuse the issue I'll cede the word conservative to the Trotsky-leaning neoconservatives as introduced to us by Perle, Podhoretz & Krystal. They can have ownership of the word, it's meaningless to any thinking person.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-02-27   23:04:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: christine (#7)

Cyni, these youth are responding to Ron Paul's foreign policy (anti-war) message

Granted.

Michigan State the last I knew had around 50,000 students, so we are looking at less than ten per cent. If that is all the hall holds, it is a good turnout.

That four thousand, was not paid, influenced nor organized by any nationwide nor world wide organization. Lets hope they attended thru intellectual curiosity. Again we will not see these thousands marching nor firebombing against war.

Being against war in this country is unpatriotic...UNLESS THERE IS THE INTEREST OF ONE GROUP AT STAKE.

Go back to our first anti war movement when there was no declared war.

There was hell to pay and the presidents scalp was wanted.

When and where was that you ask????

In 1919 we invaded Russia, world Jewry/communists raised holy hell. Its all there in the books.

Also if you read history, did you know that altho there was no declared war, American Jews/Communists SUPPORTED HITLER and called FDR A FASCIST??????

History has NOT CHANGED.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-02-27   23:15:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#12) (Edited)

History has NOT CHANGED

yeah, it's changed, all right.

radical jews now have control of the most powerful military and the most powerful media in the world.

they have also established their jewish state, which was such a bad idea in the first place that its existence threatens the existence of jewishness itself.

and now, on top of all that, production of the lifeblood of judeo/christian industrial society, petroleum,has peaked.

this is the last chance to make the world safe for ashkenazi racial supremacy before their economic support structure collapses from energy shortages.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-02-27   23:25:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Cynicom (#12)

OK Guys and Gals have at it.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-02-27   23:26:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: tom007 (#14)

OK Guys and Gals have at it.

Tom...

I have lived 80 years of that "history" so no one can revise it, distort nor twist it.

Colleges today are brain washing and programming institutions, first class. What they do not "revise" they omit if it is contrary to their current thinking.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-02-27   23:35:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom (#15)

this should be the nest's graphic.

christine  posted on  2012-02-28   0:36:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: christine (#16)

That's robin on the right in the faux-Statue of Liberty headdress!!

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2012-02-28   0:38:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: christine (#16)

LOL - groan. It is too damn true. Photobucket

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-28   0:39:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#12)

It's called the American Dream (nightmare) because you have be sound - a- fucking-sleep to believe it !

Everything we've been "taught" is a lie.

Everyone we've been "instructed" to respect is promoting fraud.

Man, life is too short for us to spend it bullshitting ourselves.

No more bullshit accepted here, none !

"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul."

Mahatma Gandhi

noone222  posted on  2012-02-28   2:09:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Original_Intent, Jethro Tull, Christine, Phant2000 (#9)

Speak for yourself Cyni. I opposed Bush the first time he ran.

I always do.

Time has a habit of making our votes good or bad choices.

We cannot pick nor chose.

I gave money to and supported Goldwater, another supposed conservative, for which I was castigated, ridiculed and scorned.

The enlightened voters rushed to the polls and gave Johnson the largest vote count ever given, sixty five per cent. Did I ever look stupid.

As the war dragged on, it became difficult to find anyone that had voted for Johnson. I suspect the same of Bush, he won but no one supported nor voted for him.

I have always admitted to voting for Carter, again no one else did.

This takes the cake. When Ford ran, I was offered $150.00 and free tickets to a Ford dinner and fund raiser. Free drinks and rubber chicken, all I had to do was attend and look enthusiastic. My friend due to his political position was forced into paying for and populating two tables, I refused, so he had to attend, he never forgave me.

Moral of this story??? In the political world what you see with your own two eyes is not necessarily true.

You of all people know that.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-02-28   5:08:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Cynicom (#3) (Edited)

We are killing the enemies of Israel Jethro, not its red army.

Man there is so much packed in them few words, well, it would make a worthy sig line.

But, about those kids, Cyni, no. They ain't the product of college brainwashing. I grew up with the generation that populates the teaching culture of these schools and Ron Paul in NOT on that program.

These young people that you see at MSU are going against the grain of their 60s & 70s indoctrinated professors. I'll admit that the numbers on the whole are not what's needed to change direction in a way that we would like, but it's a sin to deny what we see with our eyes today in Lansing, Michigan.

randge  posted on  2012-02-28   7:00:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: randge (#21)

But, about those kids, Cyni, no. They ain't the product of college brainwashing.

randge...

For some time now I have been helping with the tuition costs of two college students and one high school student. One side effect is that I have access on occasion to their thinking.

After the Paul run in 08 I stopped dropping money down black holes and have instead been trying to help those that are helping themselves.

The two boys, thru school and college, were being cultivated by the military, one for AF pilot training thru ROTC, the other thru "free" college education.

It was amazing at the effort the parents and myself had to expend to overcome the siren call of the government with free candy. I am speaking of harsh verbal confrontations. The parents became tired and willing to give in. It was a long haul but the two boys now understand.

One is now studying for the ministry, the other is in medicine. I was accused of being anti American, un patriotic etc etc. It takes great effort randge to overcome twelve years of government "free candy" and a mind that has been so subtlety guided. Now and again one comes across a teacher that has recognized and admits they were went down the path guided by others.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-02-28   9:24:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: randge, Bump to 4 (#21)

These young people that you see at MSU are going against the grain of their 60s & 70s indoctrinated professors. I'll admit that the number on the whole are not what's needed to change direction in a way that we would like, but it's a sin to deny what we see with our eyes today in Lansing, Michigan.

I guess there is a cloud in every silver lining, but for the life of me it's hard to find that cloud in the youth that are attracted to RPs message.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-02-28   9:29:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom (#22)

It was a long haul but the two boys now understand.

My hat is off to you, Cyni, for your dedication in setting the right path for these young men.

randge  posted on  2012-02-28   9:47:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Jethro Tull (#23)

There is a part of this nation that will not die no matter how hard they try to choke it off.

randge  posted on  2012-02-28   9:48:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: christine (#16)

this should be the nest's graphic.

I COULD put it in my tagline over there. Next best thing?

The site seems to be down, so I'll have to try it later.

Vote absentee. It is a paper ballot

Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war.
If you believe in small government, then you shouldn't be in the White House.
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century

PnbC  posted on  2012-02-28   11:07:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: PnbC (#26)

yes, do. :)

christine  posted on  2012-02-28   11:10:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: christine, 4 (#16)

Bump for the REDISTRIBUTIONISTS!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-02-28   11:18:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: randge (#24)

Thank you...

At 18 I went off to war, to learn how to kill people.

Never had a chance at a normal life to transition from adolescent to manhood.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-02-28   12:09:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Cynicom (#29)

Never had a chance at a normal life to transition from adolescent to manhood.

I don't have the same excuse, nor could I have transitioned from adolescent to manhood, but I, too, still act like a kid!

Phant2000  posted on  2012-02-28   12:41:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Phant2000 (#30)

, too, still act like a kid!

Word to the wise...

Start repenting today, you seem to have a long way to go. hehehehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2012-02-28   12:53:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: All (#31)

I have seen several comments on 4um about Paul and FoxNews. As a result, I found it interesting that Judge Napolitano's voice/information/clips are found/included in the following video. I assume the Judge has found a way to support his candidate without revealing his preference at work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQs5hoHW_Qc

Phant2000  posted on  2012-02-28   13:01:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Cynicom (#31)

Start repenting today ...

Cyni, you have had me repenting almost from the first day I met you. When can I stop?

Phant2000  posted on  2012-02-28   13:02:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Phant2000 (#33)

. When can I stop?

You cant.

Stop sinning, repent overtime and perhaps you can catch up????

At least get even. hehehehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2012-02-28   13:07:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Cynicom (#34)

Stop sinning, repent overtime and perhaps you can catch up????

Not by your standards. I'll still be repenting after death. hehehehe

Phant2000  posted on  2012-02-28   13:22:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Phant2000, Cynicom (#30)

christine  posted on  2012-02-28   13:35:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Cynicom (#20)

Moral of this story??? In the political world what you see with your own two eyes is not necessarily true.

You of all people know that.

I always remember the line out of the book I have on Murphy's Law i.e., watch what they do not what they say. Although I do sometimes listen just so I can pick out the obvious lies.

As the war dragged on, it became difficult to find anyone that had voted for Johnson. I suspect the same of Bush, he won but no one supported nor voted for him.

Goldwater got toasted with the fear card and that awful, dishonest, ad showing the little girl plucking a flower and a mushroom cloud in the background.

I still believe Jimmy Carter was a good man. Yes, he was likely controlled intitially but he showed some surprising signs of independence which would likely have gotten him Kennedy'ed had it not been that by then the press was better under control and he was blocked in the Congress and ridiculed by the Presstitutes. I think he was naive going in and had a severe reality check while in office. He has been trying to make amends ever since. Unlike the Bushes, Clinton, or Oh'bummatoro he was at heart a decent man - the last to hold the office.

Ford, simply put, was a caretaker puppet put in to finish out Nixon's term without affecting the affairs of the top tier above him.

I have never looked at Ron Paul as our only hope, but he has done a Yeoman's job in waking a lot of people up to the realities of our foully corrupt government and for that I salute him. He is in no danger of becoming President as that will not be allowed, but he has woken enough people to where we now have a little glimmer of hope that we may one day soon turn back the tide of evil that has overtaken us.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-28   15:25:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Original_Intent (#37)

OI...

From memory without checking...

Before Goldwater died, I seem to recall he was discrediting conservatives and their goals????? Am I right????

Also....

Do you recall what nearly happened with Ford becoming president????

Starting with Nixon a string of "coincidences" that very nearly brought us our first president via an unwanted route???????

Cynicom  posted on  2012-02-28   15:33:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Original_Intent (#37)

... we now have a little glimmer of hope that we may one day soon turn back the tide of evil that has overtaken us.

OI: How do you speculate or envision that will happen?

Phant2000  posted on  2012-02-28   15:34:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Phant2000 (#39) (Edited)

... we now have a little glimmer of hope that we may one day soon turn back the tide of evil that has overtaken us.

OI: How do you speculate or envision that will happen?

An interesting conundrum. However, I think we all communicate at a higher level even if we do not always notice it as such. My thought, and prediction, has always been that as the awakening occurs that it will operate on a spiritual level, for lack of a better term, and that much of the power of the dark side will dissipate - like a melting snow. I do not claim to understand the specifics of how it works but as the general awareness level of the society rises those who rely upon operating from the dark, unseen, see their power fade. So, I do not think it manifest as a physical revolution but as a revolution of the spirit as more and more people begin to awaken and resist. There may be a few outbreaks of violence here and there but that is not the primary means. The one thing always feared most by the dark is the light. Our saving grace is that most people, even the lackeys of the NWO crowd, are good, at least in their basic nature, and as the chords are plucked they will respond - if only instinctively at first. The psychos at the top have always relied upon keeping their goals and motivations hidden, but as those are increasingly exposed they become progressively weakened. It is kind of mystical in the way it works. However, the end is not yet by any means certain, but we seem to have shifted, in the last six months in particular, into a different flow. Again, words are not exact.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-28   15:58:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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