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Title: February 28, 2012 Bob Barr: Libertarians should vote for Gingrich
Source: The Daily Caller
URL Source: http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/27/b ... ians-should-vote-for-gingrich/
Published: Feb 28, 2012
Author: Steven Nelson
Post Date: 2012-02-28 02:25:29 by farmfriend
Keywords: None
Views: 409
Comments: 17

February 28, 2012

Bob Barr: Libertarians should vote for Gingrich

By Steven Nelson

Former Georgia Republican Rep. Bob Barr supports Newt Gingrich’s campaign for president, and told The Daily Caller other libertarians should consider joining him.

Barr was elected to Congress in 1994 and worked alongside Gingrich as he became Speaker of the House. Barr left office in 2003 and in 2008 ran as the Libertarian Party’s presidential candidate, receiving more than 500,000 votes nationwide.

Explaining his support for Gingrich, a politician not often considered a libertarian darling, Barr told The Daily Caller, “I’m very comfortable and happy supporting Newt,” adding, “it’s not to say that other candidates like Ron Paul don’t have very good ideas.”

The former congressman has served as a surrogate for Gingrich’s campaign, primarily reaching out to groups supportive of the Second Amendment. He said he has some policy differences with Gingrich, but finds his political track record reassuring.

“Of all of the Republican candidates, he is the one best equipped and with an actual track record of accomplishing important conservative and libertarian goals,” said Barr. “A track record to me is a much better indicator of where these candidates truly stand than what they may say.”

Barr specified three particular legislative accomplishments as reasons why libertarians and others should entertain voting for Gingrich. (RELATED: Full coverage of the Gingrich campaign)

“Under Newt’s leadership we balanced the federal budget, we cut taxes significantly and we reformed welfare substantially and permanently,” he said. “Those three things stand out as irrefutable evidence that Newt is committed to and knows how to accomplish goals that are important to libertarians and conservatives because they shrink the size of government and empower the people and businesses and states.”

If Gingrich is elected, Barr said he’d like him to pay more attention to civil liberties issues, weigh a move toward a flat tax and reconsider his foreign policy. Barr noted, however, that he hasn’t spoken with Gingrich about either the PATRIOT Act or the Defense of Marriage Act, landmark pieces of legislation that Barr opposes.

“I would encourage Newt to take a harder and much more objective look … at the tremendous expansion in government surveillance power and data-mining power that was unleashed in the PATRIOT Act,” said Barr.

The former congressman, who is “very confident” that Gingrich can win Georgia’s March 6 Super Tuesday primary “by a wide margin,” also defended controversial statements made by Gingrich about moon colonization.

“It’s very important to focus not just on, ‘Newt favors a colonization of the moon,’ that’s not what he’s saying, he’s saying that the space program needs to be reinvigorated,” said Barr. “Looking down the road, space exploration and the benefits it yields — in medicine and information technology — should not be overlooked.”

If Gingrich — who hasn’t seen a primary or caucus victory since his Jan. 21 blowout in South Carolina — isn’t the GOP nominee, Barr would reassess who to support. He said that he “certainly would consider” supporting former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson, who is likely to be the Libertarian Party’s nominee.

“I know Gary. I like him very much. I think he was an outstanding Governor of New Mexico. I think he has some excellent ideas,” he said. But, Barr added,”I would certainly hope that he would have a more organized and higher profile campaign than I’ve seen thus far, because he has some very, very good ideas and is a man of integrity.”

The Ron Paul campaign hasn’t responded to a request for comment about Gingrich’s libertarian appeal, but has in the past ridiculed the former House speaker as a “serial hypocrite.”

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#1. To: farmfriend (#0) (Edited)

But, Barr added,”I would certainly hope that he would have a more organized and higher profile campaign than I’ve seen thus far, because he has some very, very good ideas and is a man of integrity.”

Bob Barr is a traitor and obviously has a very different definition of integrity than I do.

"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul."

Mahatma Gandhi

noone222  posted on  2012-02-28   3:14:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: noone222, farmfriend (#1)

I pegged Barr as a tool last (s)election cycle. I see no reason to change that assessment now.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-28   3:31:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Original_Intent (#2)

I pegged Barr as a tool last (s)election cycle. I see no reason to change that assessment now.

He outed himself when congressional hearings were had relative to WACO, Ruby Ridge, and militias.

"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul."

Mahatma Gandhi

noone222  posted on  2012-02-28   3:34:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: noone222 (#3)

As I recall he was all for justifying government thugs killing people whose beliefs and practices he disapproved of.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-28   3:51:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: noone222 (#1)

Bob Barr is a traitor and obviously has a very different definition of integrity than I do.

I agree wholeheartedly.

... If a man has nothing that he is willing to die for, then he has nothing worth living for....

Give Me Liberty  posted on  2012-02-28   4:18:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Original_Intent (#4)

As I recall he was all for justifying government thugs killing people whose beliefs and practices he disapproved of.

Spot on.

"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul."

Mahatma Gandhi

noone222  posted on  2012-02-28   4:58:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Original_Intent (#2)

I pegged Barr as a tool last (s)election cycle.

I knew that man was smokin' something when I saw him give his LP acceptance address.

randge  posted on  2012-02-28   7:02:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: farmfriend (#0)

This is a very profound insult to the Libertarian Party.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-02-28   8:25:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: noone222, Give Me Liberty, Original_Intent, Pinguinite, randge (#1)

I'm reminded of what happened with the American Independent Party and Alan Keyes. I know infiltration and disruption happened in the Reform Party and the Green Party. I suspect but can't prove that this what was going on with Barr and the LP.


changing the puppet does not change the play.

farmfriend  posted on  2012-02-28   11:11:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: farmfriend (#0)

barr is no Libertarian and newtered's direct association to the CFR removes him as an option for Libertarians.


If either Moromney or Mammyjammyobammy win the November (s)election peoples with common sense will pray that December 21 2012 will indeed be the end of the world!

IRTorqued  posted on  2012-02-28   11:27:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: farmfriend (#9)

I'm reminded of what happened with the American Independent Party and Alan Keyes. I know infiltration and disruption happened in the Reform Party and the Green Party. I suspect but can't prove that this what was going on with Barr and the LP.

Yep, same MO. These upstart groups and movements should never allow established pols to gain power. Barr is a fellow Georgian, so I suspect he "owes" Gingrich something and that's exactly why insiders can't be allowed into outside movements/groups without a full vetting. IIRC, Barr had more than one chink in his armor before being welcomed in by the Ls

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-02-28   11:29:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jethro Tull (#11)

Barr had more than one chink in his armor before being welcomed in by the Ls

well what I'm getting from LPers on another forum is that there was an inside that sounds like it split the LP much like Keyes did to AIP. Sigh. I don't understand how they are allowed to usurp control.


changing the puppet does not change the play.

farmfriend  posted on  2012-02-28   12:01:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: farmfriend (#12)

People fall for name recognition, IMO. It's that simple.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-02-28   12:04:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: farmfriend (#12)

In 2008 Barr's running mate was an unabashed Zionist and warmonger (whose initials were W.A.R.). Wayne Root boasted that Winston Churchill was his idol! Together he and Barr effectively put the nail in the coffin that was the LP.

The LP could possibly redeem itself if it endorsed Ron Paul (should he do a 3rd party run or somehow get the GOP nomination) instead of running their own candidate. If Barr still has any clout in the party, the LP will remain dead.

Vote absentee. It is a paper ballot

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PnbC  posted on  2012-02-28   12:10:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: noone222 (#1)

Barr. A true POS's-POS.

Cornhuskerkid  posted on  2012-02-28   13:16:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Jethro Tull (#13)

People fall for name recognition, IMO. It's that simple.

yeah, that and the "he can win" crap!


changing the puppet does not change the play.

farmfriend  posted on  2012-02-28   20:07:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: PnbC (#14)

In 2008 Barr's running mate was an unabashed Zionist and warmonger (whose initials were W.A.R.). Wayne Root boasted that Winston Churchill was his idol! Together he and Barr effectively put the nail in the coffin that was the LP.

Yeah that is pretty much what I was told. here is the post from the other forum.

Wayne Allen Root brokered a deal where they combined delegates and Root got the VP nod. While Barr seemed sincere in his Road-To-Damascus conversion to libertarianism to many people, there were a lot of other party members who were pretty damn upset about it, especially since 2008 would have an awesome opportunity for a Libertarian candidate without a lot of partisan Republican baggage to build the movement.


changing the puppet does not change the play.

farmfriend  posted on  2012-02-28   20:11:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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