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Title: Does ANYONE here not have "out of wedlock" kids in your family or extended family? How has this harmed society?
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Published: Feb 29, 2012
Author: me
Post Date: 2012-02-29 08:26:22 by Artisan
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Comments: 28

Is marriage irrelevant? I think definitely not. This planned breakdown of society is very tragic. The first generation of this accepted trend of kids without marriage, at least (generally) had financially stable married parents to help w/ the grandkids.

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The next generation (the kids who were born out of wedlock) now has even less familial stability, parents with divorces, exs, halves, steps, financial woes, misery. THEIR kids are much worse off than even they were. Good grief make it stop.

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#10. To: Artisan (#0)

Here in Ecuador, there's a very high rate of infidelity compared to the USA, and I never appreciated the confusion it could cause till I came here. With a high rate of children born out of wedlock, there's a real loss of family definition which impacts identity and relations with others. For example 2 people may be half brothers, each with the same mother but different father which can really screw things up, so to speak. It can be a source of division at the teen level as one can ridicule the other. Also, people can have half-siblings out there that s/he has never met. Kids have 0 or perhaps 2 fathers, one basically adopted.

The confusion is pretty substantial. I can appreciate that having been in the company of it here.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-02-29   18:04:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

that is too bad. the so-called sexual revolution definitely transcended international borders. i think it actually was an international conspiracy to destroy cohesive family unit & thus create serfs.

Artisan  posted on  2012-03-01   1:01:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#24. To: Artisan (#23)

that is too bad. the so-called sexual revolution definitely transcended international borders. i think it actually was an international conspiracy to destroy cohesive family unit & thus create serfs.

I have no reason to believe that this is a new trend here. It may be what's typical for this area.

There's some scientific angle that says that in warmer climates where food is plentiful year round there is less of a family unit because mothers don't really need husbands around to care for children. So the men tend to get promiscuous and the women consequently do too, and the guy who can spread himself around the most "wins" the offspring game.

It more seasonal climates, women need men to be loyal and stay around to feed and cloth them to survive the winter hardships, so families are the natural survival arrangement, in stark contrast to the tropical scene, as uncared for women and children die off.

So it's sort of a natural selection type thing. Or used to be in a more primitive environment.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-03-01 01:15:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"...i think it actually was an international conspiracy to destroy cohesive family unit & thus create serfs."

You nailed this one great!

The true purpose of having children was to keep the aristocracy in place of the wealthy elite. There was no such thing as food stamps, social security, or other social benefits. Only the wealthy could afford to have children. And the purpose of having children was to keep the money in the family name through generations to follow. Marriage was a serious business and dowries had instrinsic value. An example would be the father bringing his daughter to a social function to be introduced to eligible respectable bachelors. Those bachelors had to meet the prong test by the father and mother as far as worthiness of marriage to the daughter. The idea of the daughter messing around town with men was a social disgrace as well as a disgrace to the family name. Any daughter who shamed the family name was disowned. This practice still goes on even today. In fact, I had a female roommate back in 1988 who was the same age as me. She got pregnant and when her parents found out about it, they threw her out on the streets and disowned her! Whether this pregnancy was planned or by accident (such as rape) her family would have nothing to do with it. She came from a very well-educated and affluent background and we became good friends. I felt sorry for her as she needed emotional support. I was going to night school and dating a law student and she was into computers. Very smart gal. However, our landlord at that time would not permit her to stay because, it went against his social norm system to rent out to women in distress like this. He was from the Middle East. He and I got along ok though. I was not allowed to bring men home to his place and I respected that. I was not into men anyway as I was focused on school. But my aunt was interested in him and she dated him a few times. He didn't like her because he already figured what she was up to. She was a gold-digger and a professional whore that slept with wealthy rich men. He even told me this himself. He worked in aerospace. She did nails for the wealthy elite. She finally married a jew who also saw her for what what she really was. When he and I were having a morning walk one day, he showed me his marriage ring. He told me that he had my aunt's wedding ring inscribed with the following in Hebrew: "Eat first or fuck first". I was stunned and asked him why he had that done. He told me that he already knew what my aunt was but that he was going to make the determination of her networth. By the inscription on the ring and having her sign a pre-nuptial agreement, so that she does not get her hands on inheritance money or property to his daughter, that's how he kept her in check. I don't know if I feel for my aunt or not.

purplerose  posted on  2012-03-01 10:22:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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