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Title: US Republicans Rebuff Resolution Demanding Iraq Inquiry
Source: AFP
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/2005110 ... u=X3oDMTA2ZGZwam4yBHNlYwNmYw--
Published: Nov 3, 2005
Author: AFP
Post Date: 2005-11-03 19:30:14 by Brian S
Keywords: Republicans, Resolution, Demanding
Views: 66
Comments: 9

WASHINGTON (AFP) - The Republican majority in the House of Representatives rejected a resolution calling for a "substantive" investigation into abuses before and during the Iraq war.

The resolution was proposed by Democrats who have used increasingly aggressive tactics in Congress to draw attention to President George W. Bush's record on the war.

Republicans in the House defeated the measure by 220 votes to 191.

The Democratic resolution had called for an investigation into "the manipulation of pre-war intelligence", the role of Vice President Dick Cheney into Iraq's reconstruction, the leaking of the name of a CIA agent and abuses against prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison.

Democrats accused the Republican leadership in Congress of failing in their oversight of the Republican administration.

The resolution came on the day that Cheney's former chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, appeared in court in Washington to deny charges linked to an investigation into the naming of a covert CIA agent, Valerie Plame.

Plame's husband, former ambassador Joseph Wilson, has alleged that she was named to take revenge on him because of his opposition to the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

In the Senate, the Democrats exploited a rarely used rule on Tuesday to force a closed-door hearing to demand an investigation on the intelligence used to justify the Iraq war.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Congressmen are not as bright as Senators. They are "insiders" but not full insiders. Some of them- even are naive enough to believe at least partly in the two party fraud and to think that is what motivates DC power politics.

Congressmen don't "get" the telegraph messages that are imbedded in the DC Pravdas organs like the New York Times and the Washington Post. They miss the subtler currents and changes in Beltway conventional wisdom and the new party line. They generally are behind the curve when it comes to conforming with the Demands and Dictats of the Beltway and they are a little bit more out of control for that reason (the impeachment of Clinton was not an approved Beltway action for example). It generally takes more upfront and direct communications to get Congress on board to a course correction in general Beltway goals and interests.

Congress- doesn't understand yet that Bush is targeted for termination- or extreme wounding and that he will be so destroyed that all those near his stank of failure and corruption and criminality will absorb that odor as well and it won't wash off.

The Senate sees what is coming and has got the hints. The House needs a bit more to get the hint - but they will too. See how GOPERs vote against such an investigation in two months.

Burkeman1  posted on  2005-11-03   20:54:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Bush is targeted for termination- or extreme wounding and that he will be so destroyed that all those near his stank of failure and corruption and criminality will absorb that odor as well and it won't wash off.

Please, God, pleeeeeeeeeeease, God, PLEEEEEEASE, PLEASE let Burkeman1 be right!!!!

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-11-03   21:05:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Headline for this story should be: "REPUBLICANS COVER UP CRIMES, DON'T WANT AMERICAN PEOPLE TO KNOW"

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-11-03   21:06:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Warning- Horn tooting and shameless bragging ahead:

405. To: malador (#399) The race- about finished out where I said it would. It was close but not "Chad counting" close and we would not have a controversy over the outcome. Sorry I was right. I don't let my own partisan proclivities effect my predictions (or I try not too.)

I have a rather good track record on predictions. Back in 93 I predicted to my family at a Christimas dinner that Clinton would be re-elected- but impeached. I was right. I predicted Bush would take the nomination back in 99 when he was just floating balloons. I predicted the "war" against Iraq would be a cake walk but it was the "peace" we would have to worry about and predicted guerilla war. I predicted no WMDs would be found. I said No significant ties to AQ would be found.

I predicted (and I am most proud of this one) three months before the Iowa caucaus when Dean was at 35 to 40% in the polls in a field of half a dozen Dems- and while kerry was barely known and was polling at 3 and 4% that he was going to take Iowa- then New Hampshire- and the nomination. The Freepers all laughed at me (yep- I still was a member then). I even bet one guy and he had to keep in his tagline for a week: Burkeman1 was right and I was wrong.

And now I predict this. There will be a major move by Beltway forces (bureaucracy, media, military, corporate elites) to remove or bring down this administration. The means or "scandal" that will be manufactured to accomplish this will manifest itself soon in the MSM- the Times or Post. Within 30 days. It will be dramatic and viscious.

But it is coming . . .

Bank on it.

Burkeman1 posted on 2004-11-03 12:52:17 ET Reply Trace

410. To: malador (#409) This is a Beltway deal. It isn't partisan. And if I am right- Cheney will be attacked first and will go down first (if they are successful).

There are two primary reasons for why this administration is targeted for destruction.

1) The Democrats are a pathetic shell of a party without any real grassroots support. They desperatly need a jump start. You can't have a two party fraud with one of the fraudelent factions on life support. The growth of the GOP as the Center left party is too fast and threatens the Dems with extinction. This cannot be allowed to happen. Instability is what the Beltway fears the most. A gigantic "Constitutional scandal"- one that will paint the GOP as threatening "democracy" itself (like the one against Nixon was presented as) is just what the doctor ordered to give the Dems a shot in the arm and roll back the GOP growth.

2) The US is utterly discredited abroad. I know this is news to BOTS who have no use for the outside world but the reputation, image, and word of the US is worth exactly zero to most of the entire world. We have never been more isolated. Bush took his gamble in Iraq foolishly. IF they were throwing roses and democracy was blooming then no one would care about WMDs, AQ links or the lies. The world would eat it's humble pie and things like the Kay and Duelfer report would barely make the news if at all. But that ain't the case. This is a friggin disaster - worse than Viet Nam diplomatically and though not as deadly for our troops far worse strategically. Atonement has to be made for a war of aggression sold on lies. Forget what the idiotic bots say and their word parsing about how the "Intel" was bad- and all that nonsense. The world sees a USA that lied and invanded a soveirgn country rich with oil. To them it is exactly how we would see it if a another nation did it- a war of aggression and outright imperial expansion. And nothing will begin to restore the image of the US abroad than the appearence that we clean our own house- and for that- the political blood of a president is demanded.

Burkeman1 posted on 2004-11-03 13:19:34 ET Reply Trace

429. To: palo verde (#427) They didn't want Kerry elected. And it has nothing to do with the media being pro Kerry or not (that is less true than it was just 4 years ago by the way- the media clearly shifted to he right since 2000). If Kerry was elected over Bush and just continues the policies- that sends no message to the world. Bush goes off into respectable retirement and nobody or nothing is blamed for IRaq?

No. A sacrifice has to be made on the world stage. And since the world doesn't suffer these pathetic illusions that our two party system is somehow not a fraud and front for an Oligarchy- it is better this way. It shows the world that the Beltway knows Bush messed up and that they got it under control no matter whom our two bit elecitons put into office. They want to show the world they control things. NOt us. Reassure the world that things will get back to normal and that "players" are in control- not ideologues and certainly not us.

We of course will see it as some great "Test" of our constitution and will follow each development and revelation with baited breath. Karl Rove's tertimoney will become political lore! Oh how brave he was for standing up for the country and rating out Bush! Eccch. Families will not talk to each other over this farce.

And the side benefit of this whole drama about to unfold is that it will bolster the myths of both parties and increase hatred for each other despite very little in the way of policy differences.

The Beltway wins twice.

Burkeman1 posted on 2004-11-03 16:04:58 ET Reply Trace

ELECTION 2004**** LIVE THREAD

Burkeman1  posted on  2005-11-03   21:16:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No. A sacrifice has to be made on the world stage. And since the world doesn't suffer these pathetic illusions that our two party system is somehow not a fraud and front for an Oligarchy- it is better this way. It shows the world that the Beltway knows Bush messed up and that they got it under control no matter whom our two bit elecitons put into office. They want to show the world they control things. NOt us. Reassure the world that things will get back to normal and that "players" are in control- not ideologues and certainly not us.

We of course will see it as some great "Test" of our constitution and will follow each development and revelation with baited breath.

Wow, that is astute.

The crime to name a covert CIA official pales in comparison with conspiring to lead the nation to war under false pretenses.

christine  posted on  2005-11-03   21:38:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Congressmen don't "get" the telegraph messages that are imbedded in the DC Pravdas organs like the New York Times and the Washington Post.

I think that the WP is waking up a bit, but on the whole, you are right. Both papers are run by plutocrats with amazing access to power. The NY Times went to the mat for Miller, when anyone who had read her stories knew she was a careerist asshole being used by the people who really run this country to print lies.

Look at what is happening to Knight Ridder, which runs some really good papers. Some right wing company has bought up 20 percent of the stock and is demanding it be sold off. That would end its national power, because its Washington Bureau, which represents all of its regional papers, has been a relative shining star in exposing this gang of criminals. If the papers are sold off, the bureau will disappear.

We still have the internet, but they're working on that hard, trying to control bloggers. Dissent is never allowed under these clowns, and they have three more years to get their way.

Mekons4  posted on  2005-11-03   21:49:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

We still have the internet, but they're working on that hard, trying to control bloggers. Dissent is never allowed under these clowns, and they have three more years to get their way.

The Beltway was taken by surprise by the power of the internet in the late 90's but they have very steadily negated much of it and deployed counter measures. The complete negation of FR as a forum from the right that challanges Beltway power is perfect example of this. And DU- always was an in the tank Beltway management tool).

They have also turned the internet into a mobilization tool for their dupe outer party members- the ideologues. A whole third tier press exists for their consumption that immediatley pumps out a party line on every topic. Newsmax, Worldnetdaily, NRO, http://Frontpagemagazine.com- have email lists with "Extras" and "Alerts" every single day- the message is constant and unrelenting and ususally wholly idiotic.

With all the access of the internet to foreign sources and independent and first person news- the creation of these propaganda front "news" zines was absolutley necessary as a counter measure. These "news" outlets take this raw material - wrap it in their own ideological dressing - distort it- misrepresent it- and present it to their troops as "news". Internet spin machines. And they swallow it.

I get Newsmax "Alerts" in my email every day and I read their "spin" on news stories and while they don't lie directly- they lie by omission and by emphasis and by misleading headlines. And this then gets transmitted to all their footsoldiers up and down the line. I was watching a local panel show and the local BOT jerk nearly spoke word for word on his support of Alito from a post Bill Kristol had written that day on his Weekly Standard blog.

Burkeman1  posted on  2005-11-03   22:09:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Sad, but TRUE.... Excellent commentary~!!

Don't force feed me your views... talk to me so I can hear you...

siagiah  posted on  2005-11-04   8:51:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Bought and paid for propaganda is now the rule, not the exception. That clown Tomlinson being kicked off the PBS board was amusing; he had no intention of getting to the truth, he just wanted nutcases like Max Boot used to oppose them damn lieberal college perfessers.

In so many stories, it was like 10 college professors saying that the law of gravity is pretty well excepted, although only a theory, and Tomlinson screaming that there was no one saying gravity doesn't exist.

Mekons4  posted on  2005-11-04   23:18:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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