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Title: The Sheep Must Be So Proud
Source: sott.net
URL Source: http://www.sott.net/images/posters/circles.jpg
Published: Mar 8, 2012
Author: sott
Post Date: 2012-03-08 21:23:48 by Original_Intent
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Keywords: sott, crop circles, think, act
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#1. To: Original_Intent (#0)

wow, at minimum it is beautiful art!


changing the puppet does not change the play.

farmfriend  posted on  2012-03-08   21:47:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: farmfriend (#1)

Agreed. I notice that earlier crop "circles" were just that. Simple circles. Now they are getting quite complex. Maybe the aliens doing this have been taking some more advanced classes in crop art? Maybe the next generation of work will let them play pac-man or something.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-03-08   23:06:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Intergalactic graffiti. I hereby sentence the perps to 600 hours of community service. Now, if we can just get the Air Force MP's to nab the little shits the next time they land at Area 51....

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2012-03-08   23:34:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Original_Intent (#0)

My personal favorite. : )

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-03-09   0:34:43 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Pinguinite (#2)

Maybe the next generation of work will let them play pac-man or something.

Have you seen the one that is the firefox logo?


changing the puppet does not change the play.

farmfriend  posted on  2012-03-09   0:51:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: abraxas (#4)

yes I like that one.


changing the puppet does not change the play.

farmfriend  posted on  2012-03-09   0:51:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Pinguinite, abraxas, Original_Intent, X-15 (#2)

firefox crop circle


changing the puppet does not change the play.

farmfriend  posted on  2012-03-09   0:53:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: abraxas (#4)

That is cool. I find them all fascinating and I draw no conclusion other that they are not made by farmers or drunks from the local pub.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-03-09   1:11:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: farmfriend (#1)

wow, at minimum it is beautiful art!

That it are. It is interesting mathematics too.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-03-09   1:12:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: farmfriend, Pinguinite, abraxas, X-15 (#7)

firefox crop circle

Yes, I've seen that one before. If I recall correctly on the close up level it was pretty clearly a work of man, but the others, the ones that appear to be actual phenomena, show physical changes that do not show up in the mechanically produced ones - and they are mathematically precise.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-03-09   1:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Original_Intent (#10)

I don't know of any farmers who have the time, energy, or skill to knock out a complex pattern that destroys some of their cash crop. Most would be doing good to hack out a crude "John Deere!".

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2012-03-09   1:31:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: X-15 (#11)

I don't know of any farmers who have the time, energy, or skill to knock out a complex pattern that destroys some of their cash crop. Most would be doing good to hack out a crude "John Deere!".

Likely so, and not only that the stems of the plants in the real thing undergo chemical changes and they appear to become pliable and smoothly bent - not smashed down according to the researchers who have studied them.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-03-09   3:36:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: farmfriend, Pinguinite, abraxas, X-15 (#7)

firefox crop circle

You know the firefox circle is manmade though, right?

If you look at it in any detail, it's far cruder than those made by higher beings.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-03-09   4:54:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: abraxas, Original_Intent (#4)

In all seriousness, has anyone ruled out photoshop on at least some of these crop arts?

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-03-09   9:01:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Original_Intent (#0)

mandalas

“Like it or not, everything is changing. The result will be the most wonderful experience in the history of man or the most horrible enslavement that you can imagine. Be active or abdicate. The future is in your hands.” 53; Milton William Cooper,

gengis gandhi  posted on  2012-03-09   9:17:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Pinguinite, abraxas, farmfriend, all (#14)

In all seriousness, has anyone ruled out photoshop on at least some of these crop arts?

Pretty much. There are researchers who investigate them every year, but they simply get no coverage in the Lamestream media. The lamestream media will generally only cover the few crude ones that are clearly man made and then use that as a strawman to ridicule the others which are much more sophisticated and have other measurable anomalous characteristics.

Various attempts to debunk the crop circles that appear each year, and with greater and greater complexity, have mostly fallen flat for anyone who has objectively dug into it. While a few phonies have been staged the people who have been researching this for some time can generally diagnose them very quickly as the phonies cannot duplicate the anomalous changes in the plants and soil. As well they cannot duplicate the precision. While from a distance some of the phonies look good they fail when examined up close.

Here are a couple of links:

BLT Research (Burke, Levengood & Talbot): www.bltresearch.com/

Crop Circle Connector: www.cropcircleconnector.com/interface2005.htm

home.cropcircleresearch.com/articles/blt.html

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-03-10   13:15:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: gengis gandhi (#15)

mandalas

Certainly there does seem to be some kind of spiritual component - if only as an expression of sentience.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-03-10   13:18:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Original_Intent, Pinguinite, abraxas (#16)

I get there is some mystery surrounding crop circles. And no I don't believe they are created by extraterrestrials. There is no logic behind that. I get that they, assuming the exist, probably don't think the same way we do but we are talking about beings that supposedly are intelligent enough to have interstellar space travel but resort to art in our food supply for communication. Sorry I just can't go there.


changing the puppet does not change the play.

farmfriend  posted on  2012-03-10   13:23:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: farmfriend, Pinguinite, abraxas, X-15, genghis gandhi, all (#18)

And as I commented earlier there is insufficient data to explain them.

If dealing with a truly alien sentience we cannot make the unwarranted, and unsupported, assumption that they think as we do.

What we can observe objectively, in the ones validated as not planted fakes, is:

1. They evidence great precision.

2. They embody an implied knowledge of advanced mathematics including fractal geometry.

3. The plants undergo real measurable physical changes.

4. The soil evidences real measurable physical changes.

5. They have a clear and present artistic element.

However, we do not know who is doing them or why.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-03-10   13:31:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Original_Intent (#19)

it may be that symbols themselves have power, as detailed in matsuro emoto's memory of water research. with the mandala hypothesis, these symbols would therefore effect the earths energy field in some way. perhaps they are places at certain points, like ley lines, to affect telluric currents, in a form of geomancy. as well, dan davison's 'shape power' may have some clues, as form itself has energetic resonant properties.

“Like it or not, everything is changing. The result will be the most wonderful experience in the history of man or the most horrible enslavement that you can imagine. Be active or abdicate. The future is in your hands.” 53; Milton William Cooper,

gengis gandhi  posted on  2012-03-12   21:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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