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Title: Do you hate America? A question asked of me by an old man when he saw the Ron Paul for President decal on my car
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Published: Mar 9, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-03-09 21:34:50 by christine
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Really. I was shopping at the local Sprouts market this evening. As I was loading my groceries, a white bearded old man (he looked just like The Grandfather in the old film, Heidi) who was collecting the carts in the parking lot stopped and asked me, "do you hate America?" I looked at him and replied, "Excuse me?" At first I thought he was being facetious, but then he asked me again, "do you hate America?" while pointing to the decal. He then said, "He (Ron Paul) is going to start a revolution. You must hate America if you are for Him because He is going to rip the country right up the middle within a year. The man (Ron Paul) is an old fool. He's an old fool." Of course, my first thought was to ask, do you hate our Republic and then to say you, Sir, are the old fool. Instead, I simply replied, Sir, I profoundly disagree with you. I have to admit, I was sincerely taken aback by that confrontation.
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#7. To: bluegrass (#6)
BG, I think we're products of where we were raised. In NYC, such a comment to christine would have guaranteed a prompt "FUCK YOU" by most people i know. From there, it would have either stopped or gone up a notch. There is simply no time left left to suffer a'holes.
There is collective blame for all generations to share for the state of our country. Faulting one time group is too easy to do, and wrong. The thirst for power among men has always been the downfall of every country ever founded. Everyone agrees that good transcends generations, however, many people seem to not understand that "evil" also transcends generations. What one builds, another tears down.
Goddamn, Chrissy, that's scary. What the hell is happening to this country?
Agree Cyni. Can u imagine the cart collector in Brownsville, Brooklyn commenting negatively on an Obama sticker?
I tend to agree with that. I'm seeing a degradation across the board. Finding someone who "gets it" is almost startling now. deleted
The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” —Samuel Adams
Boy, no doubt. deleted
The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” —Samuel Adams
Think you're on to something. The kernel of political truth. there were actually several things i thought to say, but it was pouring rain, cold, i was hungry, eager to get home, and my quick assessment was that he was too ignorant and too far gone to get anything i might have said.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” —Samuel Adams
You brought a laff to me. Tho I would never do that. I think. For the best. deleted
The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” —Samuel Adams
Now you're really making me feel bad. I see in my mind's-eye my poor sweet Chrissy-waif cold, wet, hungry, lost... And I was nowhere to be found to help you out. I think I'm gonna cry myself to sleep. Dangit, how do you gals always manage to do this to me? Jethro... Citizens of this country have long discussed ,if, and when, this country would "elect" its first female president and its first non white President. The so called "election" of a totally unqualified black man to the office came as a total surprise to those of my age and older. Surprised not because of his color, rather to the fact that his credentials are of the thinnest gruel. So why did the system not "elect" a well qualified black man???? Therein lies the puzzlement? Why on earth foist this empty shirt off on the country?????
next time. smooch.
coincidentally, i said the same thing to someone earlier today.
Rain? What's that? I would say it's been a coon's age since Texas has seen rain, but the drought has been so bad it's probably spanned generations of coon's ages. Good to see youns are finally getting some relief out there. "What began in Russia will end in America."- 1930, Elder Ignatius of Harbin, Manchuria.
To me it has always been apparent that Obama, the empty shirt, was "created" for a reason, for a means to an end, as someone was needed that could be totally controlled at all times. Had Colin Powell been elected, just perhaps he might have kicked over the traces, not easily led by the nose. That chance could not be taken. This empty shirt makes Carter and Ford look like great Presidents.
Damn, why do you hate Murka? I would have told that imbecile in no uncertain terms that if he wanted to see who hated Murka and who had probably done about as much as anyone to contribute to its downfall to look in the mirror and see the reflection of the idiot looking back at him.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
Still having a drought? Dry here. One reply would be "Ron Paul is the only candidate who will govern according to the original intent of the Founding Fathers, not according to the will of Israel. Why do YOU hate the Founding Fathers??". P.S. Nobody has said one word to me about my Ron Paul bumper sticker. Then again, that might be because my truck sports a "Hunt Texas" license plate, NRA sticker, and Confederate flag sticker :p
#8. To: christine (#0)
#9. To: christine (#0)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#10. To: Cynicom (#8)
There is collective blame for all generations to share for the state of our country. Faulting one time group is too easy to do, and wrong.
#11. To: Cynicom (#8)
Faulting one time group is too easy to do, and wrong.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#12. To: christine (#0)
#13. To: christine (#0)
I have to admit, I was sincerely taken aback by that confrontation.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" 
#14. To: gengis gandhi (#2)
#15. To: bluegrass (#6)
I think there was something in early Cold War propaganda that seriously damaged the critical faculties of some people now in their late 60's and those into their 70's. They appear more prone than any other part of the population to government/media manipulation regarding whatever Great Evil must be confronted.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#16. To: Cynicom (#8)
The thirst for power among men has always been the downfall of every country ever founded.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#17. To: Eric Stratton (#12)
#18. To: christine (#17)
#19. To: Eric Stratton (#12)
I would have told him that the entire reason why this country is a shithole now is because of ignoramuses like him.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#20. To: christine (#17)
assessment was that he was too ignorant and too far gone to get anything i might have said.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#21. To: tom007 (#19)
(Edited)
#22. To: christine (#17)
...it was pouring rain, cold, i was hungry, eager to get home...
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#23. To: Jethro Tull (#10)
#24. To: Esso (#22)
#25. To: Cynicom (#23)
rather to the fact that his credentials are of the thinnest gruel. So why did the system not "elect" a well qualified black man????
#26. To: christine (#17)
but it was pouring rain
#27. To: christine (#25)
coincidentally, i said the same thing to someone earlier today.
#28. To: christine (#0)
#29. To: scooter (#26)
assessment was that he was too ignorant and too far gone to get anything i might have said.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#30. To: christine (#0)
(Edited)
-Alex Kurtagic
#31. To: Cynicom, *Obama Reality Check* (#23)
The mocha-marionette dances to the tune of whoever is jerking it's strings. Obummer is not his own man, which is grounds for suicide in my book. I guess Obummer likes living in his whored-out skin.... Therein lies the puzzlement? Why on earth foist this empty shirt off on the country?????
-Alex Kurtagic
#32. To: christine (#0)
I think my tendency would be to reply with a question. Hard to say what I would actually ask without being there. Probably something of order of, "What leads you say that?" It befuddles them more than anything else because it forces them to actually think. Sometimes they'll even melt down when they cannot come up with a rational answer.
#33. To: christine (#0)
The country is going to be ripped up the middle anyway. When people have no jobs, no income, no future, something is going to happen. He is going to rip the country right up the middle within a year.
#34. To: christine (#0)
The simple answer is "as it operates today, yes, most definitely. What do you have against innocent children, gramps ? Look at yourself, pushing carts around like a homeless person, in Amerika." then he asked me again, "do you hate America?"
"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul."
Mahatma Gandhi
#35. To: Cynicom (#8)
The thirst for power among men has always been the downfall of every country ever founded. Ultimately the mass of people are responsible for their cultural / societal downfall, usually waiting to long before speaking and acting in truth against those psychopaths that always usurp power through fraud and lies. There is collective blame for all generations to share for the state of our country. Faulting one time group is too easy to do, and wrong.
"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul."
Mahatma Gandhi
#36. To: X-15 (#30)
You FKN turrurists are going to be the downfall of Amurika ! P.S. Nobody has said one word to me about my Ron Paul bumper sticker. Then again, that might be because my truck sports a "Hunt Texas" license plate, NRA sticker, and Confederate flag sticker :p
"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul."
Mahatma Gandhi
#37. To: James Deffenbach (#28)
It sure gets old having ignorance challenging the informed doesn't it ? Damn, why do you hate Murka? I would have told that imbecile in no uncertain terms that if he wanted to see who hated Murka and who had probably done about as much as anyone to contribute to its downfall to look in the mirror and see the reflection of the idiot looking back at him.
"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul."
Mahatma Gandhi
#38. To: scooter (#26)
Farming in the panhandle of Texas is challenging these days. We need rain very badly. Rain? What's that? I would say it's been a coon's age since Texas has seen rain,
"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul."
Mahatma Gandhi
#39. To: noone222 (#37) (Edited)
It sure does. I find this particular incident quite disturbing. How the hell could anybody be so misinformed as to accuse Ron Paul of working to destroy this country? He's the only candidate who isn't. Edit: I wonder where this mallethead thinks a war with Eye-Ran is going to take this country? Eye-Rack was practically disarmed down to the last Red Ryder BB gun at the time we invaded and managed to quagmire us down to the point that our soldiers were committing suicide in their barracks rather than face another day. Eye-Ran has three times the population, four times the land area, has a functioning military, and is allied with Russia, China, India, etc. I suppose dopey thinks we're just gonna trot right in and "brush 'em aside" like we did in Eye-Rack, Gannystan and all the other ongoing jewWar debacles that have dragged on longer than WWII, right? It sure gets old having ignorance challenging the informed doesn't it ?
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#40. To: Esso, christine (#39)
WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
#41. To: Dakmar (#40)
So it would seem. Goddamn, this bullshit pisses me off. Orwell was an optimist.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#42. To: Dakmar (#40)
When I saw the title of this yesterday, my first thought was that it was posted by you. Chrissy's stealing your lines, ol' buddy.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#43. To: christine (#0)
Not me. It's all a matter of perspective. My personal survey indicates that there are more completely worthless parasites in the AUTX area than any other part of the country where I've resided. In fact, it bumped Madison WI out of first place. I have to admit, I was sincerely taken aback by that confrontation.
#44. To: christine (#0)
You should've banned his IP address for an uncalled-for personal attack. Oh, wait, it was real life.... :p
-Alex Kurtagic
#45. To: Esso, christine (#39)
Thank the knobby-headed soldiers that work for our unofficial propaganda organs that spew the conventional garbage that passes for news on a daily basis. It's a piece of cake for them to "keep the mushrooms in the dark" because most of them have never been raised to think at all - let alone think for themselves. Now that things are getting critical for the ruling thug class, the agitation against anyone who harbors critical opinions regarding the national security state, its adventures, and the way that it is financed will become more shrill and threatening, and we are going to see ever more intense antagonism against those who hold themselves out to be sponsors of the cause of Liberty.] I keep a silver dollar in my belt buckle to remind knuckle heads like this that, one hundred years ago, this dollar bought a tank of gas or a really decent meal, and that it will do so today whereas that dollar that the old fella humpin' carts earns is dissolving into nothing like the economy of this country. I'd remind him that if we'd preserved the value of our currency and our savings, (as Ron Paul says we ought to) perhaps he wouldn't be shoving around shopping carts. Maybe he'd be at home enjoying life with his grandkids. I find this particular incident quite disturbing. How the hell could anybody be so misinformed as to accuse Ron Paul of working to destroy this country?
#46. To: ratcat (#33)
that's exactly what my husband said and, further, it's for this reason that he doesn't want to see RP win the presidency as my husband believes that he would get the blame. The country is going to be ripped up the middle anyway. When people have no jobs, no income, no future, something is going to happen.
#47. To: christine (#46)
He's right. my husband believes that he would get the blame.
"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul."
Mahatma Gandhi
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