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Title: No Paul = No Vote in November
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The Daily Bell
URL Source: http://www.thedailybell.com/3693/Ro ... nd-No-Paul-No-Vote-in-November
Published: Mar 10, 2012
Author: Ron Holland
Post Date: 2012-03-10 15:09:12 by Flintlock
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Views: 1458
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"I would also say of Ron Paul – he doesn't need to win. In his view he is winning already. This is an ideological point he is making. But here's why it's electorally significant – a lot of people, I mean 41 percent in Virginia, only two people on the ballot, still a lot of people voted for Ron Paul. A lot of those voters are portable. They're not Republican – they're not dedicated Republican voters." – Tucker Carlson, Editor, The Daily Caller It is time for a groundswell of Ron Paul supporters to quietly, respectfully but firmly make their position clear to the mainstream media and the GOP establishment. Simply put, "No Paul on the ticket means no vote for the GOP in November." The Ron Paul Campaign has the GOP establishment stuck between a rock and a hard place even though they have not won a single state in the primaries to date. Every Paul supporter knows the underhanded tactics used by the Republican leadership at the state and national level as well as the organized smear and news blackout campaign carried out by the mainstream media. Making Nice For the November Election As we move into the last months of the GOP presidential nomination campaign, most of the establishment media are now "making nice" with Ron Paul and his supporters. He actually gets questions during the debates, some press coverage and the other candidates seem friendly. The reason is simple. The Republican Party desperately needs the votes of Ron Paul supporters in order to win in November against Obama. Obviously, Virginia Heffernan didn't get the memo in her typical anti-Paul elitist drivel titled Ron Paul's Pointless Internet Presidency posted on Yahoo earlier in the week but now this is the exception rather than standard procedure for the press. The word has gone out to be nice and respectful to Ron Paul so they can get our votes in November. Too Little Too Late The Republican establishment has obviously done its homework with focus groups, polling, etc. and here is their situation. Although they have successfully held back the Ron Paul campaign to date from threatening to win the GOP presidential nomination, in the dirty tricks process they have ostracized the substantial Paul voting constituency even more from the GOP than before. Paul supporters are far more than portable as suggested by Tucker Carlson; rather they are toxic toward the GOP elites and very few will now support any of the establishment candidates after the abusive treatment given to Ron Paul as well as the crude attacks against Paul supporters. I well understand these feelings of resentment, as I am a Ron Paul supporter. There is no way I will vote for either Romney, Santorum or Gingrich, although I certainly prefer their fake rhetoric to the Obama propaganda. If Ron Paul isn't the Republican nominee for president, then the establishment nominee desperately needs the votes of his supporters in order to beat Obama in the fall general election. The establishment knows the Gingrich and Santorum voters in the GOP Presidential primary will eventually vote for Mitt Romney in November if he wins the Republican presidential nomination at the GOP convention beginning on August 27th, 2012. They also know and fear that most Ron Paul supporters will not vote for the nominee and will likely stay away from the polls in droves thus hurting the other Republican candidates for the House and Senate as well for state and local elections. Basically, 15% of the GOP primary voters will sit out the 2012 November election and this almost guarantees the re-election of Barack Obama. Why Don't I Really Care If the Democrats or Republicans Win in November? My answer is regardless of whether Romney or Obama wins the general election despite all the anti-Obama rhetoric by the Republican establishment, little will change on major issues. Romney's campaign promises are identical to all other presidential campaign promises, much to do about nothing. Neither Bush nor Obama kept their campaign promises and neither will Romney. Course of Action First, we redouble our efforts in voting and funding the Ron Paul Campaign up through the final primary and caucus. Second, in editorials, articles or discussions with the press or GOP leadership always emphasize your plans to stay at home on election day if a Ron or Rand Paul is not on the ticket. Third, at the Republican National Convention when the presidential nomination is handed to Romney, assuming he wins, we continue to stress "NO PAUL = NO VOTE IN NOVEMBER." Finally, we then wait at the convention for the personal phone call from Mitt Romney following private preliminary discussions where Rand Paul is asked to be the Vice Presidential candidate on a Romney/Paul ticket after assurances Ron Paul will be nominated for an appropriate cabinet level appointment such as Secretary of the Treasury or Defense. Ron Paul deserves some family time off following the years of campaigning and educating the American people about liberty. He has done more to advance the cause of limited government, peace, liberty and free markets than any American since the time of the American Revolution. Mitt Romney has spent the last seven years running for President of the United States so obviously he really wants to win. Romney and his advisors must know that without the 15% plus of GOP voters supporting Ron Paul who, unlike Gingrich and Santorum supporters, will sit the election out, he cannot defeat Barack Obama without our support. His only option is to put a "Paul" on the ticket. Although a Vice President Rand Paul is a great tactical victory, this is only a battle in a long war for the restoration of liberty and legitimate constitutional government to the United States. When I was a young man in the military during the 1970s, I well remember the antiwar crowds shouting "Hell, no, we won't go!" in opposition to the Vietnam War. Today, 40-plus years later, I'm a grandfather and maybe older and wiser but still willing to a little more respectfully tell the same power elites running this country and both political parties, "Hell, no, I won't go." But this time it is to the polls in November unless there is a Paul on the ticket. Will you join me?
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#1. To: Flintlock, *Obama Reality Check* (#0)
Will you join me? The more I think about it, the less I feel obligated, on any level, of voting for Saint Abraham Lincoln's party-of-shit. The GOP can go straight to hell, their immoral treatment of Ron Paul has earned them four more years of Nigger Obama befouling the Oval Office and the further occupation of the White House by troops of unruly apes. "NO PAUL = NO VOTE IN NOVEMBER."
-Alex Kurtagic
#2. To: Flintlock (#0) (Edited)
I'm sure this means that if Paul is not on the ticket, they will just stay home. Bad news for the Pubbies, good for Obummer. ;) "No Paul on the ticket means no vote for the GOP in November."
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#3. To: X-15 (#1)
Oy vey! ;) troops of unruly apes.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#4. To: Flintlock (#0)
No, I don't vote - Will you join me? Will you join me?
"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul."
Mahatma Gandhi
#5. To: noone222 (#4) (Edited)
If you don't vote, you have no gripe about the way things are. Hint: Read your quote by Gandi again. ;) No, I don't vote
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#6. To: Flintlock (#0)
I'm there. Third, at the Republican National Convention when the presidential nomination is handed to Romney, assuming he wins, we continue to stress "NO PAUL = NO VOTE IN NOVEMBER."
#7. To: Jethro Tull (#6)
What????????????????????????? What about your patriotic duty and all the rest of the brainwashing and programming you have been subjected to? Are you telling us you will refute all you have been spoon fed all your life? Outrageous. Someone needs to report you to HSA, TSA or whomever. I'm there.
#8. To: Jethro Tull (#6)
It's gonna be a high time in Tampa at the height of hurricane season. Anything can happen.... think Chicago 68 on steroids. I'm there.
Ron Paul and his legions of spam monkeys ain’t gonna win shinola. - Jim Robinson - (comment #1)
#9. To: Jethro Tull, noone222 (#6)
Herein lies the crux of vote no vote... "So who are the non-voters?..... Michael McDonald and Samuel Popkin ("The Myth of the Vanishing Voter," American Political Science Review, December 2001), argue that their ranks are often overestimated, partly because of the growing number (since the 1970s) of resident aliens and felons not eligible to vote. Among those eligible, minorities and the poor have historically voted at lower rates than others. But it does not follow that the average non-voter is poor. If we accept McDonald and Popkin's point that turnout rates have held steady since 1972, Ruy Teixeira is still right to point out that, in the same timespan, Americans have become more educated and middle-class—so that the educationally and economically marginalized have been a declining, not a rising, share of non-voters, just as they have of the U.S. population. U.S. Census Bureau data suggest that up to...... 30 million non-voters in 2000 had either some college education, a bachelor's degree, or an even more advanced degree,.... whereas around 16 million hadn't finished high school—about one-fifth of non-voters. Quite a few are young, and come from across the socioeconomic, educational, and subcultural spectrum. In other words, non-voters include millions of middle-class Americans. ..... This means that while non-voters don't faithfully replicate U.S. demography, they resemble voting Americans enough for us to conclude that a historic spike in turnout is unlikely to dramatically change the partisan balance in America....... Amounts to this Jethro, mandatory vote, RESULTS WOULD BE THE SAME... Its rigged Jethro, rigged.
#10. To: Flintlock (#0)
during the nine plus years I lived in the Philippines every election cycle 82-92 everything bolted down was tagged with "boycott the elections". it did not matter who was running for what, they had the sense to see that nothing would change. until there is an end to the two sides of one party I'm not wasting a perfectly good tuesday in novemeber.
If either Moromney or Mammyjammyobammy win the November (s)election peoples with common sense will pray that December 21 2012 will indeed be the end of the world!
#11. To: Flintlock, All (#0)
This is the smartest move and perhaps the only opening left on the chessboard for Paul supporters. If they register their protest by simple non-participation, they will forever be defending against an indictment for being the spoilers, and for being the ones that brought on a second term for that Joker in the White House. Myself, I'm not keen on a mainstream GOP victory or a repeat and amplification of what we now suffer from. I'm of the somewhat cranky opinion that another four years is just what the country requires to wake from its slumber. We haven't learned our lesson yet, and given what a rough ride we may be in for, I'd love to see the students of Bill Ayres and Soros reap the whirlwind when the inevitable blowback arrives. But then, who knows what further constitutional damage will bed inflicted on this country before 2016? Then again, you know a guy like Mitt has the Itch, and the only way that he can scratch it is by satisfying the zionist demand for More War. And more war is probably what we'll get eventually with the current wise guy in office at any rate along with inevitably more constitutional mayhem. The drawback to the plan suggested in the article above is that if we go in with Mitt in a VP bargain, we are also complicit in what his administration has in store for us. That is some medicine that I don't think I can choke down with the finest Tennessee bottled in bond, of which I think I'm going to have lay in a respectable supply before November. I may very well sit this one out.
#12. To: Cynicom (#7)
In 2000 I voted for Pat Buchanan when he ran under the Reform Party label. I sat out '04, '08 and it appears '12. My last R for President vote was #41 in '88. I get the picture.
#13. To: randge (#11)
That a boy, let'em know you're a hapless serf unconditionally obedient to your lord's political will. There will be choices on the ballot, I'm gonna make one. I may very well sit this one out.
Ron Paul and his legions of spam monkeys ain’t gonna win shinola. - Jim Robinson - (comment #1)
#14. To: Jethro Tull (#12) (Edited)
Giving up a little quick aren't you? This is still in the second inning. it appears '12.
Ron Paul and his legions of spam monkeys ain’t gonna win shinola. - Jim Robinson - (comment #1)
#15. To: randge (#11)
If one scrutinizes that argument, they find it also will not hold water. First...Blacks alone DID NOT AND CANNOT ELECT OBAMA. It takes a few million WHITES TO DO THE BIDDING OF THE SYSTEM. If they register their protest by simple non-participation, they will forever be defending against an indictment for being the spoilers, and for being the ones that brought on a second term for that Joker in the White House
#16. To: randge (#11)
Exactly: sometimes people need to feel the heat before they can see the light. I'm of the somewhat cranky opinion that another four years is just what the country requires to wake from its slumber. We haven't learned our lesson yet, and given what a rough ride we may be in for, I'd love to see the students of Bill Ayres and Soros reap the whirlwind when the inevitable blowback arrives.
-Alex Kurtagic
#17. To: X-15 (#1)
That's how I feel about it. No Paul, no vote. Paul would be the nominee if they hadn't screwed him out of it, he has already won states they claim he lost. Didn't count a lot of his votes and some they even gave to other candidates. Ef 'em, homey don't play that! Paul supporters are far more than portable as suggested by Tucker Carlson; rather they are toxic toward the GOP elites and very few will now support any of the establishment candidates after the abusive treatment given to Ron Paul as well as the crude attacks against Paul supporters.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken
"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
#18. To: Flintlock (#13)
Geez thanks, Flintie, just a buttload. That a boy, let'em know you're a hapless serf It ain't like I haven't thought about this shit. unconditionally obedient to your lord's political will. It's because I am not an obedient peasant that I claim the freedom not to be bound by the arbitrary whims of the political elites incorporated in these two moribund "major parties" of ours. There will be choices on the ballot, I'm gonna make one. What do you suggest, old sport? I'm always open to ideas.
#19. To: Cynicom (#15)
If one scrutinizes that argument, they find it also will not hold water. First...Blacks alone DID NOT AND CANNOT ELECT OBAMA. It takes a few million WHITES TO DO THE BIDDING OF THE SYSTEM. I don't know if you understood what I was driving at. I am saying win or lose in November, if Paul folks do a deal for VP, and vote republican, they will avoid the charge that they were the ones that put Bammy over the top. If they register their protest by simple non-participation, they will forever be defending against an indictment for being the spoilers, and for being the ones that brought on a second term for that Joker in the White House
#20. To: randge (#18)
It goes over the head of partisans when you speak of the two headed chicken. At the sloppy end, Paul should demand office of Sec. Def. with a clear hand to clean house. No deal? Tell his supporters to take a hike on election day. That would give us Obama????? We already have the SOB, wake up Paul supporters. arbitrary whims of the political elites incorporated in these two moribund "major parties" of ours.
#21. To: randge (#19)
I am saying those that cry, "vote or Obama is your fault" need to do some serious self educating. If one votes and truly understands that the system is rigged, then, fine and dandy, by all means vote. Watch until Romney is "chosen" by the multitude. Then Romney will be all over Paul as a true American, a man among men etc etc etc. If Paul salutes and walks away, we have been had one more time. If Paul stands up and demands a pound of flesh and a quart of blood in exchange for support, we will have a new ballgame. Will he????? I am saying win or lose in November, if Paul folks do a deal for VP, and vote republican, they will avoid the charge that they were the ones that put Bammy over the top.
#22. To: Cynicom (#20)
I said this is what we should do over two months ago. It got very little support on 4um when I suggested it. There are some on here that will still vote GOP! No Paul, No vote.
#23. To: Cynicom (#20)
Myth Reality If GM had invented the jackass.
#24. To: ambi (#22)
Correct. Watch dirty politics. Romney wins, offers Paul VP. Slap in the face for Paul. I would hope he would then demand the flesh etc etc. I want Paul to make Romney squirm and wet himself. I said this is what we should do over two months ago.
#25. To: Cynicom (#21)
If Paul stands up and demands a pound of flesh and a quart of blood in exchange for support, we will have a new ballgame. Will he????? That'll probably be the only interesting thing to watch in this latest mock election. My money is on "salute and walk away", FWIW. If Paul salutes and walks away, we have been had one more time.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#26. To: ambi (#22)
Some here are going to vote for Obama. There are some on here that will still vote GOP!
#27. To: Cynicom (#24) (Edited)
Does anyone think that anything that Romney could offer Paul would be anything other than a passel of equivocations? He could offer either Paul, vice president, I suppose. That's an office that VP John Nance Garner once described as being "not worth a bucket of warm piss." The Veep shuts his mouth, minds the Senate and greets lesser dignitaries. I can't imagine that Romney can or will jettison any portion of the globalony to which he is sworn. I would hope he would then demand the flesh etc etc.
#28. To: Cynicom (#24)
After what the GOP has done to Paul, it also is a slap to the face of all freedom loving Americans and I hope it is the end of the GOP period. I want Paul to make Romney squirm and wet himself.
#29. To: Jethro Tull (#26)
You are absolutely correct. Some here are going to vote for Obama.
#30. To: Esso (#25)
Sometimes I suspect you have a periscope into my inner sanctum??????? Odds are Paul will not DEMAND anything immediate. My theory, shared by no one else, is that Paul is running this time for...RAND PAUL in 2016. Santorum is the Bush family in disguise. Newtie is a POS. My money is on "salute and walk away", FWIW.
#31. To: Jethro Tull (#26)
& sleep in a hollow log.Some here are going to vote for Obama.
#32. To: Cynicom (#30)
Would you be too surprised if I told you that I did? My mother says that I've inherited her mother's ESP. There's nothing all that magical about it, though. It's a simple matter of paying attention and honestly evaluating other people's motives, and next thing you know, you're predicting the future. If you want to predict Amerikka's future, you need to understand that there are only two absolute rules Amerikka operates under and everything that happens falls under one or both of those rules: That's the honest evaluation part, now just stand back and pay attention, then the future becomes quite clear. See? Easy-peasy. Anything else is Pollyannaish. Sometimes I suspect you have a periscope into my inner sanctum???????
1. Under no circumstances shall any benefit be allowed to the common citizens (the 99.9%ers).
2. The truth shall never be allowed to reach the common citizens.
Question: Will Ron Paul be the next president?
Answer: No. A Ron paul presidency would be in violation of both rules 1 & 2 of the New judeo Century. It would benefit the people of the world and he speaks the truth.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#33. To: Cynicom (#30)
Highly probable that Ron is laying the groundwork. It would certainly explain Rand's refusal to stand opposed to the jews/Israel. My theory, shared by no one else, is that Paul is running this time for...RAND PAUL in 2016.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#34. To: BTP Holdings (#5)
I suppose you (not you personally) can show that those votes cast over the past 100 years have improved things ! Really ? If you don't vote, you have no gripe about the way things are.
"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul."
Mahatma Gandhi
#35. To: Esso (#33)
Agreed. People should be paying attention NOW to what Rand Paul has to say, not four years from now. Rand has been too quick out of the gate with many of his pronouncements if indeed he is going to run in four years. My turnoff was when in the Senate he baldly said that doctors .....have the RIGHT to make a comfortable living. Highly probable that Ron is laying the groundwork. It would certainly explain Rand's refusal to stand opposed to the jews/Israel.
#36. To: Cynicom (#30)
Newtie is a POS. It isn't hard to keep from voting when the Dems have a Communist running who has already torn up the Constitution, and the GOP shows they do not respect honesty and consistency. You are wrong about Santorum. He shares the title of POS with Newt. I would love to see Paul stand up and demand a pound of flesh, but your speculation is most likely correct, i.e., that he is running for Rand in '16. At the end of the day the Americans will again be proved to have been duped into thinking they chose the winner. The evildoers will not lose ... whoever is POTUS is there because that is who they wanted. Santorum is the Bush family in disguise.
#37. To: Phant2000, Jethro Tull, Esso, randge, noone222, Christine (#36)
I often wonder why Ron Paul, in the name of education, does not explain the one easy and bloodless method of removing this government. Paul should hammer into the voters heads, that eight months from now they CAN AND SHOULD REMOVE THE ENTIRE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. Explain it to the people, the power is in their hands and they have never used it. The criteria???? No incumbent gets an American vote, party be damned. Be done with that long list of losers, Peeloosely, Boner etc etc. Clean house. People here say Paul is educating, well, if so, let him explain how easy it is to rid ourselves of this corrupt government. The founding Fathers, planned it, we are too damned stupid to use it.
#38. To: Cynicom (#37)
If the voters this year vote for ANY incumbent, then they deserve what they get. The founding Fathers, planned it, we are too damned stupid to use it.
#39. To: randge (#18) (Edited)
Well, if you're too stoopid to see the big picture, I suggest you drink a gallon of bleach. Bottoms up! What do you suggest, old sport?
Ron Paul and his legions of spam monkeys ain’t gonna win shinola. - Jim Robinson - (comment #1)
#40. To: Cynicom (#21)
You reek. You never miss an opportunity to bash Ron Paul do you. YOU ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A PAID GOVERNMENT PLANT/DISINFO AGENT. Go fuck yourself , you rat, now crawl back in your hole.
Ron Paul and his legions of spam monkeys ain’t gonna win shinola. - Jim Robinson - (comment #1)
#41. To: Cynicom (#21) (Edited)
If Paul stands up and demands a pound of flesh and a quart of blood in exchange for support, we will have a new ballgame. Will he????? He never wanted to be President. He just wanted to remind us we can be free if we work at it. His message has already won the hearts and minds of sufficient numbers to do just that but... not today. If Paul salutes and walks away, we have been had one more time.
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