See other Ron Paul Articles
Title: No Paul = No Vote in November
Source:
The Daily Bell
URL Source: http://www.thedailybell.com/3693/Ro ... nd-No-Paul-No-Vote-in-November
Published: Mar 10, 2012
Author: Ron Holland
Post Date: 2012-03-10 15:09:12 by Flintlock
Keywords: None
Views: 1441
Comments: 104
"I would also say of Ron Paul – he doesn't need to win. In his view he is winning already. This is an ideological point he is making. But here's why it's electorally significant – a lot of people, I mean 41 percent in Virginia, only two people on the ballot, still a lot of people voted for Ron Paul. A lot of those voters are portable. They're not Republican – they're not dedicated Republican voters." – Tucker Carlson, Editor, The Daily Caller It is time for a groundswell of Ron Paul supporters to quietly, respectfully but firmly make their position clear to the mainstream media and the GOP establishment. Simply put, "No Paul on the ticket means no vote for the GOP in November." The Ron Paul Campaign has the GOP establishment stuck between a rock and a hard place even though they have not won a single state in the primaries to date. Every Paul supporter knows the underhanded tactics used by the Republican leadership at the state and national level as well as the organized smear and news blackout campaign carried out by the mainstream media. Making Nice For the November Election As we move into the last months of the GOP presidential nomination campaign, most of the establishment media are now "making nice" with Ron Paul and his supporters. He actually gets questions during the debates, some press coverage and the other candidates seem friendly. The reason is simple. The Republican Party desperately needs the votes of Ron Paul supporters in order to win in November against Obama. Obviously, Virginia Heffernan didn't get the memo in her typical anti-Paul elitist drivel titled Ron Paul's Pointless Internet Presidency posted on Yahoo earlier in the week but now this is the exception rather than standard procedure for the press. The word has gone out to be nice and respectful to Ron Paul so they can get our votes in November. Too Little Too Late The Republican establishment has obviously done its homework with focus groups, polling, etc. and here is their situation. Although they have successfully held back the Ron Paul campaign to date from threatening to win the GOP presidential nomination, in the dirty tricks process they have ostracized the substantial Paul voting constituency even more from the GOP than before. Paul supporters are far more than portable as suggested by Tucker Carlson; rather they are toxic toward the GOP elites and very few will now support any of the establishment candidates after the abusive treatment given to Ron Paul as well as the crude attacks against Paul supporters. I well understand these feelings of resentment, as I am a Ron Paul supporter. There is no way I will vote for either Romney, Santorum or Gingrich, although I certainly prefer their fake rhetoric to the Obama propaganda. If Ron Paul isn't the Republican nominee for president, then the establishment nominee desperately needs the votes of his supporters in order to beat Obama in the fall general election. The establishment knows the Gingrich and Santorum voters in the GOP Presidential primary will eventually vote for Mitt Romney in November if he wins the Republican presidential nomination at the GOP convention beginning on August 27th, 2012. They also know and fear that most Ron Paul supporters will not vote for the nominee and will likely stay away from the polls in droves thus hurting the other Republican candidates for the House and Senate as well for state and local elections. Basically, 15% of the GOP primary voters will sit out the 2012 November election and this almost guarantees the re-election of Barack Obama. Why Don't I Really Care If the Democrats or Republicans Win in November? My answer is regardless of whether Romney or Obama wins the general election despite all the anti-Obama rhetoric by the Republican establishment, little will change on major issues. Romney's campaign promises are identical to all other presidential campaign promises, much to do about nothing. Neither Bush nor Obama kept their campaign promises and neither will Romney. Course of Action First, we redouble our efforts in voting and funding the Ron Paul Campaign up through the final primary and caucus. Second, in editorials, articles or discussions with the press or GOP leadership always emphasize your plans to stay at home on election day if a Ron or Rand Paul is not on the ticket. Third, at the Republican National Convention when the presidential nomination is handed to Romney, assuming he wins, we continue to stress "NO PAUL = NO VOTE IN NOVEMBER." Finally, we then wait at the convention for the personal phone call from Mitt Romney following private preliminary discussions where Rand Paul is asked to be the Vice Presidential candidate on a Romney/Paul ticket after assurances Ron Paul will be nominated for an appropriate cabinet level appointment such as Secretary of the Treasury or Defense. Ron Paul deserves some family time off following the years of campaigning and educating the American people about liberty. He has done more to advance the cause of limited government, peace, liberty and free markets than any American since the time of the American Revolution. Mitt Romney has spent the last seven years running for President of the United States so obviously he really wants to win. Romney and his advisors must know that without the 15% plus of GOP voters supporting Ron Paul who, unlike Gingrich and Santorum supporters, will sit the election out, he cannot defeat Barack Obama without our support. His only option is to put a "Paul" on the ticket. Although a Vice President Rand Paul is a great tactical victory, this is only a battle in a long war for the restoration of liberty and legitimate constitutional government to the United States. When I was a young man in the military during the 1970s, I well remember the antiwar crowds shouting "Hell, no, we won't go!" in opposition to the Vietnam War. Today, 40-plus years later, I'm a grandfather and maybe older and wiser but still willing to a little more respectfully tell the same power elites running this country and both political parties, "Hell, no, I won't go." But this time it is to the polls in November unless there is a Paul on the ticket. Will you join me?
Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest
Comments (1-63) not displayed.
.
.
.
#64. To: James Deffenbach (#60)
Even if you can't vote for Ron Paul by write-in, there are other races and issues on the ballots that could be important. Likely those are mostly rigged too but I think the act of voting is a protest in itself -- a way of saying that the Electoral process really belongs to us and we're not going to just surrender it to the corrupt. At least make them work harder than they would if you stayed home. If someone is sick or something, then don't go but otherwise staying home just sends a message of compliance more than disgust. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
James has he thinker running full RPM today. I have a lucid interval occasionally. >(;^{] Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
Well, you do have a point. If there is some kind of bond issue to further endebt us that is something to vote against. So if there is stuff like that on the ballot I might waste enough time and energy to go to the polls for that. But as for a "choice" between Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber, or the "lesser of two evils" as some folks say, no thanks, I ain't interested. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
Presidential term limits are not a bad idea. FDR was a disaster for America. Term lengths should be limited for all whose actions in office show them to be Constititonally unfit -- move against the Constitution and refuse to get back in line, out immediately. If our government was limited to Constitutionalists only, then regular rotations probably would be ideal but not such a good idea now as it is.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
It was an excellent effort. If you were not around prior to the change, term limits was THE LAST EFFORT BY AMERICANS TO RESTRAIN THIS CORRUPT GOVERNMENT. John Nance Garner saw the danger of a lifetime president way back in the 1930s when FDR said he liked being President and would run for a third term. Garner as VP, was so incensed he packed his bags and went back to Texas.
Glad to hear that. Good. Same here. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
If our government, especially the Congress and the courts, were comprised of "Constitutionalists only" the office of president could be held by any monkey or cretin and it wouldn't matter because he couldn't do any damage. The funds could be cut off for outrageous stuff and he could be made to sit in the corner and be a quiet monkey. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
Garner as VP, was so incensed he packed his bags and went back to Texas. FDR was a bit before my time but Garner sounds like he was a good man. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
That's one way of putting it, yes. :) Really, we can't continue with the pretense that the sham system is our system. It's not and that's why we can't change it by working within it. It's an invasive, foreign system. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
History... FDR had the money and control of the East establishment, but no friends in the power structure. He took Garner a Texan and insider to ensure his election. It worked. You recall JFK did the exact same thing. Now we may see it thrice, Romney the eastern money man that takes an older Texan as VP to ensure election????????????????
FDR had the money and control of the East establishment, but no friends in the power structure. He took Garner a Texan and insider to ensure his election. It worked. You recall JFK did the exact same thing. Now we may see it thrice, Romney the eastern money man that takes an older Texan as VP to ensure election???????????????? I hadn't noticed that pattern. Insightful, although I doubt Ron Paul would be offered the Vice Presidency because I don't think the GOP really wants to win this election. I'd like to see a Ron Paul and Judge Napolitano ticket but I'd also like to see Judge Napolitano on the Supreme Court if there's an opening. A Paul- Kucinich ticket might swing more Democrat votes to Ron Paul in a third party run and away from the Warbots. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
People were astounded when JFK offered LBJ the VP slot. JFK barely won and the insiders were trying to figure out how to derail Johnson once his usefulness ended. It didnt work.
JFK barely won and the insiders were trying to figure out how to derail Johnson once his usefulness ended. It didnt work. Texas oilmen in the Executive Branch, like LBJ and the Bushes, have been very bad for this country and the world -- overly War-driven, regardless of their Party affiliations. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
What convention are you talking about? The convention is not till Aug. If you really did attend a caucus, you would know the difference I find you hard to believe based on this and your earlier comments. Ron Paul and his legions of spam monkeys ain’t gonna win shinola. - Jim Robinson - (comment #1) Agreed. Agreed. IMO it also helps the incumbent more than the challenger, and that of course is why we have gov shills here encouraging people not to vote. Maybe, but so far Ron Paul is outmaneuvering them at their own game. They'll have to kill him to stop him, but RP has seen their tricks and knows their M.O.. Everyday, more and more people are waking up. The Genie is out of the bottle, the spark has started the prairie fire. Ron Paul and his legions of spam monkeys ain’t gonna win shinola. - Jim Robinson - (comment #1) Gotta whale of a cold and I'm not tracking today. I should have been more precise. I meant the county Senatorial Convention that follows the caucuses.
In Texas, right? Ron Paul and his legions of spam monkeys ain’t gonna win shinola. - Jim Robinson - (comment #1) Yes sir.
That's funny, the Texas primary isn't until May 29, 2012. You said you "caucused" and had "gone", both past tense references. Without calling you a liar, how do you account for the discrepancies? Ron Paul and his legions of spam monkeys ain’t gonna win shinola. - Jim Robinson - (comment #1) Jesus man. I was talking about last time around. If you have any other questions PM me. I'll send you my address and we can talk about it if you like.
Job was a patient man, but he also carried a big stick for a reason.
I gotta long fuse.
I admire your patience with the self-anointed elite of 4um.
What about the rest of us white trash here at the bottom???
Hey! Remember, I'm one of the trash at the bottom, too, but void of patience, as you well know. I respect the discipline of patience, by you AND randge. I just can't get there with the trash at the top!!!
I am demanding justice be done in Afghan, and that Obama line up at least ten grunts, shoot them as a lesson to others. The way I understand it, the Sgt. was in charge of the entire Afghan effort. He was the sole commander, hang him.
I repeat myself: "Bullshit. It isn't the grunts that deserve to be shot and taught "a lesson". It is the damned Zionist elites who work behind the scenes that should be shot. The actions of this American soldier is "tragic and shocking", but not for what he did. It is what we allowed to be created that caused the soldier to engage in a "tragic and shocking" act. How many more soldiers are we going to allow to go nuts over in that God forsaken Middle East before we realize what it is doing to our young? Wake up America and rid our country of the slimy evildoing manipulators and all those who do their bidding, i.e., our POTUS, his administration and every last member of Congress, save perhaps Ron Paul."
You indeed called it right. This forum has more than enough self-anointed elite. Kinda like society in general!
That is why it is so hard for democracy to work.
Right on! If someone other than one of the self-anointed comes up with a plan or a great idea, the self anointed on 4um almost always discourage it if not totally nix it. I would like to see who on here would make the self-anointed list if someone started one. I could name quite a few!
Anyone else remember those LOSERS that said they would NEVER vote for mCCain but instead they were voting for VP sarahcuda??? LOL
No, not really. But, it is as I have said. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
My sister in Chicago told me she has voted Dem her whole life, but could not bring herself to vote for Obummer. So, she voted for McCain. I told her she was still voting for evil since BOTH candidates are members of the Council on Foreign Relations. They are BOTH internationalists. 'Nuff said. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Palin was a good choice as VP. But, she was co-opted by CFR. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Would you care to name some of the self-anointed here on 4um?
Obama as president got some whites talking about his birth certificate. Clearly, they need more of Obama. Obama gets my vote. There's no real difference between Paul and the other pubbies. Ron Paul says he WILL free non-violent drug offenders. To accomplish that and to bring fresh blood into the system, an election every two years for all was given as a relief valve. But the Fathers were wrong in their assumption, the voters have never availed themselves of this protection. A people that would and could throw the bums out in the voting booth never has to. Ron Paul says he WILL free non-violent drug offenders. That'd make a fine sig line. A people that would and could throw the bums out know a plug nickel when they see one.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Thank you. Ron Paul says he WILL free non-violent drug offenders. Yep. The End. I had the pleasure of hearing a talk by a flight controller for Apollo 13 the other day. Great guy, but in a way simply pathetic. He mentioned in passing the demise of the U.S. space program. Followup question from the audience got a longer, sincere lament. How we had stopped looking up at the stars. How "our" "great country" aspired to great things, and could do so again. I wanted to shout "WHAT the fuck are you TALKING about? Have you SEEN the magazines at the grocery store checkout lately? Whitney Houston's corpse on a tabloid, George Washington on the cover of the next mag -- a fine juxtaposition that -- Cosmo advertising orgasms, and, of course, the Kardashians. Your 'great country' -- and it was -- is fucking GONE. It does NOT EXIST." Audience member asked him what a person could do to get the US back to space. "Vote" he says. Un-fucking believable. Then there's that retard so-called historian Niall Ferguson. Writes a big book, wondering if the West is collapsing, if the West is succumbing to Roman vices. Calls for a "civic rebirth." LOL! "Civic" rebirth? Wondering if the West is succumbing the same vices that brought down the Romans? HOW did he NOT notice his newborn from his new bride is half-Somali? (Kudos to his three kids from his first wife for not attending the wedding.) Ron Paul says he WILL free non-violent drug offenders.They don't count write ins where I live so that would be an exercise in futility--and even if they claimed to count them, since they have stolen and "failed to report" votes that Ron actually got, how could a write in be anything but an unacknowledged and thrown away protest vote? Can you not protest the system as well by saying screw you and refusing to take part in what you already know to be a rigged game?
#65. To: Cynicom (#63)
Hehehehehehe
#66. To: GreyLmist (#64)
Even if you can't vote for Ron Paul by write-in, there are other races and issues on the ballots that could be important. Likely those are mostly rigged too but I think the act of voting is a protest in itself -- a way of saying that the Electoral process really belongs to us and we're not going to just surrender it to the corrupt. At least make them work harder than they would if you stayed home. If someone is sick or something, then don't go but otherwise staying home just sends a message of compliance more than disgust.
#67. To: Cynicom (#62)
#68. To: GreyLmist (#67)
Presidential term limits are not a bad idea
#69. To: James Deffenbach (#66)
Well, you do have a point. If there is some kind of bond issue to further endebt us that is something to vote against. So if there is stuff like that on the ballot I might waste enough time and energy to go to the polls for that.
But as for a "choice" between Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber, or the "lesser of two evils" as some folks say, no thanks, I ain't interested.
#70. To: GreyLmist (#67)
If our government was limited to Constitutionalists only, then regular rotations probably would be ideal but not such a good idea now as it is.
#71. To: Cynicom (#68)
If you were not around prior to the change, term limits was THE LAST EFFORT BY AMERICANS TO RESTRAIN THIS CORRUPT GOVERNMENT. John Nance Garner saw the danger of a lifetime president way back in the 1930s when FDR said he liked being President and would run for a third term.
#72. To: James Deffenbach (#70)
If our government, especially the Congress and the courts, were comprised of "Constitutionalists only" the office of president could be held by any monkey or cretin and it wouldn't matter because he couldn't do any damage. The funds could be cut off for outrageous stuff and he could be made to sit in the corner and be a quiet monkey.
#73. To: GreyLmist (#71)
FDR was a bit before my time but Garner sounds like he was a good man.
#74. To: Cynicom (#73)
History...
#75. To: GreyLmist (#74)
although I doubt Ron Paul would be offered the Vice Presidency
#76. To: Cynicom (#75)
People were astounded when JFK offered LBJ the VP slot.
#77. To: randge (#50)
I'm just stoopid enough to have caucused and gone to the convention for Ron Paul. I will caucus for him again come primary time and with any luck will go to the convention again.
#78. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#59)
People gotta do what their conscience tells them to do. For myself, if Dr. Paul is not on the GOP ticket I will vote third party. I will not sit out.
The way I see it, the more non-partisans who sit out instead of voting third party, the better it is for the two party fraud. It's what they want.
Of course the two party fraud will never give up power peacefully.
The only thing that stops us from seeing this behavior now is the timidity and apathy of the American people.
#79. To: Flintlock (#77)
What convention are you talking about?
#80. To: randge (#79)
I meant the county Senatorial Convention that follows the caucuses.
#81. To: Flintlock (#80)
#82. To: randge (#50)
to have caucused and gone to the convention for Ron Paul.
#83. To: Flintlock (#82)
#84. To: randge (#83)
Jesus man.
#85. To: Cynicom (#84)
#86. To: randge (#85)
I gotta long fuse.
#87. To: Phant2000 (#86)
I admire your patience with the self-anointed elite of 4um.
#88. To: Cynicom (#87)
What about the rest of us white trash here at the bottom???
#89. To: Phant2000 (#88)
#90. To: Cynicom (#89)
He was the sole commander, hang him.
#91. To: Phant2000 (#86)
I admire your patience with the self-anointed elite of 4um.
#92. To: ambi (#91)
Kinda like society in general!
#93. To: Phant2000 (#92)
That is why it is so hard for democracy to work.
#94. To: Flintlock (#0)
#95. To: noone222 (#34)
I suppose you (not you personally) can show that those votes cast over the past 100 years have improved things ! Really ?
#96. To: Cornhuskerkid (#94)
(Edited)
vote for mCCain
#97. To: Cornhuskerkid (#94)
sarahcuda
#98. To: Phant2000 (#92)
I would like to see who on here would make the self-anointed list if someone started one. I could name quite a few!
#99. To: Flintlock (#0)
Ron Paul says he WOULD HAVE voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
#100. To: Cynicom (#54)
The Founding Fathers were not so much concerned about party as they were about having an immediate resolution to any "cabal" running counter to the interest of the people.
Ron Paul says he WOULD HAVE voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
#101. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#100)
A people that would and could throw the bums out in the voting booth never has to.
#102. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#99)
#103. To: randge (#101)
That'd make a fine sig line.
Ron Paul says he WOULD HAVE voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
#104. To: GreyLmist (#102)
Ron Paul says he WOULD HAVE voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest