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Title: Say no to Big Brother plan for Internet
Source: Toronto Star
URL Source: http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co ... /Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1
Published: Mar 7, 2005
Author: MICHAEL GEIST
Post Date: 2005-03-07 14:57:10 by Mr Nuke Buzzcut
Keywords: Internet, Brother, plan
Views: 296
Comments: 47

Say no to Big Brother plan for Internet

MICHAEL GEIST

During the Internet boom of the late 1990s, Nortel Networks ran an advertising campaign that featured as its slogan, "what do you want the Internet to be?" The implications were obvious ? the Internet was a technology of unlimited possibility that could be whatever we wanted it to be.

More than five years later, Nortel's vision is becoming reality. The Internet has become so essential to the every day lives of millions of people ? a pillar of communication, information, entertainment, education, and commerce ? that at times it seems as if the Internet really is anything we want it to be.

Notwithstanding the Internet's remarkable potential, there are dark clouds on the horizon. There are some who see a very different Internet. Theirs is an Internet with ubiquitous surveillance featuring real-time capabilities to monitor online activities. It is an Internet that views third party applications such as Vonage's Voice-over-IP service as parasitic. It is an Internet in which virtually all content should come at a price, even when that content has been made freely available. It is an Internet that would seek to cut off subscriber access based on mere allegations of wrongdoing, without due process or oversight from a judge or jury.

This disturbing vision of the Internet is not fantasy. It is based on real policy proposals being considered by the Canadian government today.

Leading the way is the federal government's "lawful access" initiative. While the term lawful access sounds innocuous, the program, which dates back to 2002, represents law enforcement's desire to re-make Canada's networks to allow for lawful interception of private communications.

If lawful access becomes reality, Canada's telecommunications service providers (TSPs) will be required to refit their networks to allow for real-time interception of communications, to have the capability of simultaneously intercepting multiple transmissions, and to provide detailed subscriber information to law enforcement authorities without a court order within 72 hours.

Moreover, Canada's service providers will be subject to inspections and required to provide the government with reports on the technical capabilities of their networks. These activities will be shrouded in secrecy with service providers facing fines of up to $500,000 or sentences of up to five years in jail for failing to keep the data collection confidential.

All of these changes come at an enormous cost ? both financially (hundreds of millions of dollars in new technology) and to our personal privacy. While some changes may be needed for security purposes, the government has yet to make the case for why the current set of powers, which include cybercrime and wiretapping provisions, are insufficient. There has been no evidence provided that this approach is the least privacy invasive alternative.

Refitting the network is not limited to government initiatives. In recent weeks it has become apparent that the network providers themselves may seek to interfere with the free flow of data. For example, Vonage (the leading independent Voice-over-IP provider) recently filed a complaint with the Federal Communications Commission in the U.S. alleging that an unnamed Internet service provider was blocking its service. Last week, the provider agreed to stop and to pay a fine to the FCC.

In a less publicized incident, the Communications Commission of Kenya last week ordered the state-owned Telkom Kenya to restore service to Sema VoIP, another Voice-over-IP provider which is backed by Canadian-based BMT North America. The Commission warned Telkom Kenya against taking similar action in the future.

The issue raised by these cases is not new. Observers have long feared that ISPs would succumb to economic self-interest, engaging in "packet preferencing" by blocking or slowing data coming from competing sites or services. While service providers are quick to argue that they want merely to serve as intermediaries without regard for what traverses their networks, as they offer competing Internet phone services, music download services, and other value-added content, there will be a clear temptation to create a home network advantage.

In fact, at the CRTC hearings into VoIP last fall, the parent company of at least one major provider gave every indication that it did not view third party services favourably. Quebecor, which owns Videotron, told the Commission that services such as Vonage contributed nothing to the development of facilities-based competition and that "the service provider's VoIP-based service is totally parasitic on the local access facilities of other carriers."

As the leading Canadian ISPs roll out their own VoIP services, many may look at competing services in the same way and seek to limit the use of their network. Stopping such interference requires a strong CRTC, yet with Industry Minister David Emerson's planned review of Canada's telecommunications law, some industry experts fear that Canada is heading in the opposite direction.

The Minister of Industry, together with Liza Frulla, his Canadian Heritage counterpart, are also reportedly about to finalize new rules that may reshape the availability of Internet content to educational institutions. Acting on the recommendation of a parliamentary committee that was chaired by Toronto MP Sarmite Bulte, the government may soon unveil a new "extended license" that would require schools to pay millions of dollars for content that is currently freely available on the Internet.

While the committee recommendation excluded payment for content that is publicly available, it adopted the narrowest possible definition of publicly available, limiting it to only those works that are not technologically or password protected and which contain an explicit notice that the material can be used without prior payment or permission.

Moreover, those same ministers are also contemplating a new system that would allow content owners to file a complaint with an ISP if one of their subscribers has allegedly posted infringing content. Canada's rules for child pornography still require a court order before content is removed, yet if the Canadian Recording Industry Association and other well-funded interests get their way, the ISP will respond to a mere allegation of copyright infringement by "kicking the subscriber off the system."

With Canada conceivably ready to adopt rules that make it far easier to remove an allegedly infringing song than to remove dangerous child pornography from a new fee-based, surveillance-ready, packet preferenced Internet, it is difficult to overstate how out of touch our Internet policy process has become. Is this really what we want our Internet to be?

Michael Geist is the Canada Research Chair in Internet and E-commerce Law at the University of Ottawa. He can be reached by email at mgeist@uottawa.ca and online at http://www.michaelgeist.ca.

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#8. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#6)

BTW, I voted for a third party, so don't come at me with Bush platitudes. I will take you down.

Don  posted on  2005-03-07   18:17:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Don (#7)

We are not talking about you. The whole world isn't about you. But, if you care about kids at all, you would want them protected. If you instead want to see them corrupted, you will cry about Big Brother and how he will take away your freedom. You decide what you care about.

I care about kids. That's why I do everything in my power to protect them from big government loving idiots who think every challenge must be solved by some damn law or regulation.

Here's a hint. If you are afraid of the internet, then keep your kids off the damn computer. Terminate your internet connection. Grow a pair and be a man.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-03-07   18:18:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Don (#8)

I will take you down.

Bring it.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-03-07   18:19:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Don (#5)

I didn't realize he is XXX rated.

Stern is degrading to humanity in general. If I had kids I would much prefer they see boobs in Playboy than watch that garbage.

Dakmar  posted on  2005-03-07   18:22:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut, Don (#10)

Boys, settle down now, we can all kick one anothers ass if need be, ok?

Dakmar  posted on  2005-03-07   18:23:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Don, christine, Brian S, Esso, MrNB, CAPPSMADNESS (#7)

But, if you care about kids at all, you would want them protected.

Can we at least shoot the feral ones?

Dakmar  posted on  2005-03-07   18:26:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Dakmar (#13)

Can we at least shoot the feral ones?

They tend to shoot each other on a fairly regular basis. Of course, that is immediately followed by the chant that we must regulate firearms - for the good of the kiddos.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-03-07   18:32:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Dakmar (#13)

I think if we could just regulate florists...

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-03-07   18:33:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#15)

A friend told me about Loiusianna, she confirmed license thing was big scam and said that's typical.

Dakmar  posted on  2005-03-07   18:48:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Dakmar (#13)

Can we at least shoot the feral ones?

Yes. Oh God! Yes!

Don  posted on  2005-03-07   19:47:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#10)

Bring it.

You are mainly talk. Don't play with the big boys unless you are ready.

Don  posted on  2005-03-07   21:45:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#10)

Bring it.

Is this Bush the dumberer?

Don  posted on  2005-03-07   21:47:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Don (#18)

You are mainly talk. Don't play with the big boys unless you are ready.

It's hard to be anything else but talk on an internet forum, eh? What more were you looking for, big boy? If you need a hook-up, you'll have to go find Gannon's website. Then you can play with the big boys for real.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-03-08   10:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Don (#19)

Is this Bush the dumberer?

There's a subtle difference that I'm sure is over your head. Bush said to bring it - on the heads of others. I'm telling you to bring whatever it is you think you've got, right to me personally. See the difference?

Seriously, though... Do you really think the corrupt perverts in Washington DC are more qualified to raise and protect your kids than you are? REALLY?!? I think that's sad.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-03-08   10:12:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#20)

If you need a hook-up, you'll have to go find Gannon's website. Then you can play with the big boys for real.

Since you are the one to whom this idea occurred, I can only think you had it in mind. To the best of my knowledge most of the people here don't swing that way. Maybe, if you use a search engine and type in gay life, you might be able to find a place that better suits you.

Don  posted on  2005-03-08   11:21:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#21)

I think that's sad.

What is sad is that there are "adults" who think that kids should have access to porn.

Don  posted on  2005-03-08   11:22:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Don (#22)

I see you evaded my question. Why not answer?

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-03-08   11:23:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Don (#23)

What is sad is that there are "adults" who think that kids should have access to porn.

Kids have always had access to porn. What's sad is that you somehow think the perverts in government are going to save you from yourself.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-03-08   11:24:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#25)

Then, you think also that kids should be able to enter the Sex Shops unless mommie and daddy are there to keep them out? Nuke, your proclivities are showing.

Don  posted on  2005-03-08   12:04:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#24)

Ok, then I will answer you. You are not my type. First, you need to be human, then you need to be of the right sex. You don't qualify.

Don  posted on  2005-03-08   12:05:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Don (#26)

Then, you think also that kids should be able to enter the Sex Shops unless mommie and daddy are there to keep them out? Nuke, your proclivities are showing.

Why are your young kids out cruising town and going to sex shops for? Huh? Are you really that lousy of a parent? Cripes! No wonder you need government to save you from yourself.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-03-08   12:08:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Don (#27)

Ok, then I will answer you. You are not my type. First, you need to be human, then you need to be of the right sex. You don't qualify.

The question was about why you think government can do a better job of raising your kids, not about your perverse sexual fantasies. Get your head out of the gutter -- or can you without government help?

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-03-08   12:09:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#28)

Why are your young kids out cruising town and going to sex shops for? Huh? Are you really that lousy of a parent?

Nuke. YOu have to calm down. I don't even have young kids. But, it seems as though I know more about how their minds work than you do.

Don  posted on  2005-03-08   12:21:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#29)

Get your head out of the gutter

You began that direction, Nuke. It is no good to try to shift now.

Don  posted on  2005-03-08   12:22:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Don, mr nuke buzzcut (#31)

In all honesty, I don't think that the internet should be regulated or sanitized for everyone's consumption. I DO However expect parents to be monitoring, and surfing with their children to ensure that they have a safe internet environment.

There are programs out there that keep porn off your computer, and keep your children safe from viewing porn, as well as other stuff. Parents simply need to take charge of their children, and if they can't, then why in the hell do they have a computer in the first place????

I am fed up with people blaming the inanimate, when it's themselves who are to blame for the problems of their children.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2005-03-08   12:25:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#32)

Parents simply need to take charge of their children

Unfortunately, we've got far too many people like Don who are too lazy to raise their own kids and want the government to violate everyone else's rights so they don't have to make an effort to parent their own children.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-03-08   12:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#33)

That is indeed the problem with America. People get this idea in their heads that children aren't their responsibility 24/7. They believe that they put in a day at work, to come home to nothing, other than their own self-gratification.

Children are a responsibility that never ends, and the worst part, is that these so called parents are the first ones to blame someone else for their child's problems. I saw this moron one day defending her wacko child who got tazered at school because she was violent. Her behavior, and her violence got her tazered. Where did she learn her behavior I wonder??? From her idiot mom and dad most likely. Either that, or the parents didn't bother to make their child behave in school.

I am so sick to death of people blaming inanimate objects, like computers, video games, handguns, or the like for their children's lack of judgement, or stability. Everything begins with how you were raised, and for people who demand that the world be sanitized so that they don't have to do their jobs as parents, should be taken out of the genepool and sterilized for the good of humanity. If you want to have a child that's low or no maintenance, then adopt a cat or something.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2005-03-08   12:35:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#0)

If lawful access becomes reality, Canada's telecommunications service providers (TSPs) will be required to refit their networks to allow for real-time interception of communications, to have the capability of simultaneously intercepting multiple transmissions, and to provide detailed subscriber information to law enforcement authorities without a court order within 72 hours.

.... Incidentally, if there is anyone reading this who is skeptical, and thinks that it would be too big a task to ask all telecom companies and/or service providers to revamp the entire Internet for surveillance, and such a plan is not logistically feasable because it would either take too long or cost too much money........ then you need to be aware that they can do this..... because they've already done it in America.

This article talks about Canadas network being retrofitted.... but what many people might not realize is thanks to a 1990's regulation which is generally known as CALEA (Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act) [which was part of the Digital Telephony Act], the entire phone system in the United States of America had to be revamped over a very long period of time which is now at completion; and the cost which was beared for this spying was largely at the phone companies expense (what a set of balls the government has!!!); which subsequently means at the customers expense. The governments claims of reimbursement to phone companies largely turned out to be a lie that mostly never happened.

http://www.tiaonline.org/government/calea/
http://www.lp.org/issues/res.digitele.html
http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/6805/articles/crypto/digital-telephony.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CALEA
http://www.fcc.gov/calea/
http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/CALEA/ (read this one in particular)
http://www.cdt.org/digi_tele/
http://www.epic.org/privacy/wiretap/
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20030710.html

Point being..... if it can be done with our nations voice telecom network, which is certainly no less compex than the Internet network...... then such retrofitting schemes to spy on the Internet are no more complicated and no more costing of money than what we've already spent retrofiting our phone systems. .... and in fact, if you read the links and do some more research, this Internet spying is actually just an extension of CALEA.... The federal government can use this existing infrastructure which was already built upon by CALEA, and with some expension of the regulations to cover the Internet, they can merely use the existing systems which cover voice interception and trap and trace info, and subsequently monitor data communications on demand.

Rothbard  posted on  2005-03-08   12:55:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Rothbard (#35)

Remember, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

If you're not with us, you're with the terrorists.

If you dissent, you're anti-government.

Yep... All falling into place isn't it???

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2005-03-08   12:59:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#33)

Unfortunately, we've got far too many people like Don who are too lazy to raise their own kids

You have just proven you don't even listen to what others are saying.

Remember, I told you I don't have kids? No, you don't. It was only several posts above yours.

Don  posted on  2005-03-08   13:01:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#32)

I DO However expect parents to be monitoring, and surfing with their children to ensure that they have a safe internet environment.

Lets consider that parents do that with their kids at home. Unless the parents lock their kids in the house, they will go elsewhere. There are many computers out there in elsewhere land. And, those computers may well be uncontrolled. And, there is simply too much filth and actual harmful things on the internet.

Adults hooking up with kids on the internet is one example.

This business of parents controlling their kids 24/7 sounds good. Maybe, parents used to be able to do those things. But, that is not today's world.

Don  posted on  2005-03-08   13:06:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Don (#37)

Hey, you're the one screaming that we must sanitize and regulate it "for the chillun." Of course, that's just your pretense. Like every good government worshiper, you need a pretense to hide behind. And "for the chillun" is just so popular with statists.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-03-08   13:11:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Don (#38)

And, there is simply too much filth and actual harmful things on the internet.

Sounds like you've got a lot of experience with it, Don. Try a little self control and you won't need a government agent to save you from yourself.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-03-08   13:12:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#40)

Sounds like you've got a lot of experience with it, Don. Try a little self control and you won't need a government agent to save you from yourself.

So, you have given up trying to defend your position that kids should have access to anything they want on the internet. It really wasn't a very defensible position anyway.

Don  posted on  2005-03-08   15:14:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#39)

And "for the chillun" is just so popular with statists.

And, in your opinion, anyone who thinks that children should be children rather than little hedonists is a statist. Are you personally acquainted with Michael Jackson?

Don  posted on  2005-03-08   15:15:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Don (#41)

I never took the position that kids should have access to anything they want on the internet. I simply opposed your notion that the government needs to regulate/ban content on the internet. The proper protector of children are parents.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-03-08   15:23:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Don (#42)

And, in your opinion, anyone who thinks that children should be children rather than little hedonists is a statist. Are you personally acquainted with Michael Jackson?

There you go purposely miss stating my position. That makes you a liar, Don.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-03-08   15:24:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#44)

That makes you a liar, Don.

Ok, so you do not support children having unrestricted access to the interest porn sites and other harmful sites. It should be apparent to you that parents cannot monitor their children 24/7. Welcome to my side.

Don  posted on  2005-03-08   15:39:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#43)

The proper protector of children are parents.

Ref my Post 45.

Don  posted on  2005-03-08   15:40:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Don (#45)

Ok, so you do not support children having unrestricted access to the interest porn sites and other harmful sites.

Of course not. That's why I controled my children's use of the internet.

It should be apparent to you that parents cannot monitor their children 24/7.
That is not apparent at all. On the contrary. Only a truly negligent parent would claim such. The role of parent is not a 9 to 5 job, Don.
Welcome to my side.
Oh, you are a dreamer.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-03-08   16:09:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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