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Title: Iran strike imminent: Russian diplomat
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Published: Mar 16, 2012
Author: Vladimir Radyuhin
Post Date: 2012-03-16 16:41:59 by tom007
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Comments: 20

Iran strike imminent: Russian diplomat Vladimir Radyuhin Share · Comment (2) · print · T+

Israel will attack Iran this year if a new round of talks scheduled for April fail, a leading Russian newspaper reported quoting a senior Russian diplomat.

Russian diplomats at the United Nations believe the strike against Iran is “a matter of when, not if,” the Kommersant daily said on Wednesday.

“The attack will be mounted before the end of this year. Israel is blackmailing [U.S. President Barack] Obama by confronting him with a dilemma: either he supports the war option or will lose the support [of the U.S. Jews],” a high-ranking official of the Russian Foreign Ministry told the newspaper ahead of the U.N. Security Council meeting on Syria on Monday.

After the meeting, the Russian diplomat said the attack could come earlier, any time after April when the six-nation group holds new talks with Iran.

The Kommersant quoted the diplomat as saying that U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had asked Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov to warn Iran that the talks were a “last chance for Tehran” to avoid the attack.

The newspaper said that a precise date and location for the talks was still being discussed. Iran on Tuesday confirmed that the talks would take place soon and said Turkey had been suggested as the venue.

The coming strike against Iran will save Syria from foreign military intervention, the unnamed Russian diplomat told the Kommersant.

“Americans realise that Israel will attack Iran and it would be too much to have two wars in the region,” the diplomat said explaining Washington’s consent to let U.N.-Arab League envoy Kofi Annan pursue his peace efforts in Syria.

Keywords: Iran, Nuclear issue, Israel, US, Bilateral talks

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#1. To: All (#0) (Edited)

“The attack will be mounted before the end of this year. Israel is blackmailing [U.S. President Barack] Obama by confronting him with a dilemma:

It's well past time to give American Jews a choice.

Edit: Zionist Jews in America have been a disaster for this country.

Jefferson and Washington did their best to warn of of this entanglement.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith

tom007  posted on  2012-03-16   16:44:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: tom007 (#0)

This is bad news.

I have been trying to convince myself that everyone will pull back from the brink, due to some of the considerations that the post Binay left at the end of the article in the Hindu where this story originates. The headline does suggest grounds for hope in that at least someone is planning to stage TALKS, which are always preferable to BOMBS.

COMMENTS:
This entire issue of Israel attacking Iran is ABSOLUTELY HUMBUG, AND IS THE WORLD'S BIGGEST BLUFF IN CONTEMPORARY HISTORY. War is not going to happen, even if negotiations fail, even if Iran develops the weapon. Choices are stark for the enemies if they attack Iran: a) Any protracted high levels of oil prices will cause the overthrow the President of the United States, and tear apart the democratic structure of the country b) Europe will be in absolute catastrophe because Europe's only and monopoly supplier of natural gas Russia will hike the price by 3 times. There could be wars in Europe, forget about governments being overthrown, which is FOR SURE. c) If any warhead kills even a single Russian or Chinese working in some of the various project sites in Iran, you can be very sure the Russians and Chinese will swiftly get the job done on behalf of Iran (you cant tell the Russians and the Chinese to leave Iran before any war starts)d) Yes, it is not very difficult to unblock Hormuz once or twice if there is any blockade. But for how long ? One year ? Two years ? Four ? Six ? Forever ? The costs and human dangers involved in such operations are horrible. If you bomb Iran, Hormuz blockade will be no more be state (Iran) sponsored, but terrorists and Al Qaida types sponsored. e) Russia will rule the world. Any disruption in ME oil flow will directly benefit Russia. An Iran war is a mouthwatering opportunity for them, with their crude selling at 500$. It will be advantage Russia at the cost of EU and US.
from: Binay
Posted on: Mar 14, 2012 at 22:11 IST

www.thehind u.com/news/international/article2995203.ece

A people that would and could throw the bums out in the voting booth never has to. - Prefrontal Vortex

randge  posted on  2012-03-16   18:09:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: tom007 (#0)

“The attack will be mounted before the end of this year. Israel is blackmailing [U.S. President Barack] Obama by confronting him with a dilemma: either he supports the war option or will lose the support [of the U.S. Jews],” a high-ranking official of the Russian Foreign Ministry told the newspaper ahead of the U.N. Security Council meeting on Syria on Monday.

Good heavens...

Anti-semitism at its ugliest.

One would think that jewry had some kind of stranglehold on the United States.

Preposterous. Outrageous.

I demand a law such as the Jews instituted in Soviet Union long ago...ANTI-SEMITISM a felony punishable by hanging.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-03-16   18:10:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#3)

I demand a law such as the Jews instituted in Soviet Union long ago...ANTI-SEMITISM a felony punishable by hanging.

I dunno, Daddio. They could probably only get 98 or 99 yea votes in the senate for that and certainly no more than 433 in the house.

It'd be a real squeeker.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2012-03-16   18:21:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Esso (#4)

I like to remind the jews "living" in the US of that vile law they foisted on Christian Russia long ago.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-03-16   18:26:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#5) (Edited)

"Israel is blackmailing [U.S. President Barack] Obama by confronting him with a dilemma: either he supports the war option or will lose the support [of the U.S. Jews..."

Most (?) of my fellow Americans erroneously consider themselves bright and politically savvy; certainly, then, they will fail to see the utter, murderous, suicidal iniquity in that blackmail....

"The 'uniter' has brought the entire world together - to despise and deride us." Lod

Bub  posted on  2012-03-16   19:51:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Bub (#6)

Obama is one of those rare, vacuous humans that has no redeeming social value.

The only surety about the man is as he has proven, he will always be a failure at anything he ever tries.

To save future embarrassment, once this person is gone, we should void his place in the long line of Presidents.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-03-16   20:05:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Bub (#6)

Most (?) of my fellow Americans erroneously consider themselves bright and politically savvy

And every single poster at ElPee and FreepTardia claim to have an IQ greater than 175.

I'd tell you what my IQ is, but I don't know how to spell eleventy.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2012-03-16   20:32:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: randge (#2)

f any warhead kills even a single Russian or Chinese working in some of the various project sites in Iran, you can be very sure the Russians and Chinese will swiftly get the job done on behalf of Iran (you cant tell the Russians and the Chinese to leave Iran before any war starts)d) Yes, it is not very difficult to unblock Hormuz once or twice if there is any blockade. But for how long ? One year ? Two years

But other than that, it will be a cakewalk.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith

tom007  posted on  2012-03-16   21:12:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: tom007 (#1)

“The attack will be mounted before the end of this year. Israel is blackmailing [U.S. President Barack] Obama by confronting him with a dilemma:

It's well past time to give American Jews a choice.

Jews in America have been a disaster for this country.

Jefferson and Washington did their best to warn of of this entanglement.

Either they support the welfare of the United States and their fellow Americans or they do not. If they put Israeli Geopolitical Domination ahead of the welfare of young Americans they need to get out and move to the country to whom they offer their first allegiance - Israel.

Either they are Americans or they are not and that is what it comes down to.

While I hate no one I do despise traitors, and any Jew or Christian who puts the interests of Israel ahead of the welfare of their fellow Americans is a traitor and should be regarded as such.

And I believe dual citizenship should be outlawed. Same principle - either you are an American or you are not. It is really quite that simple.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-03-16   21:24:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: randge, Tom007 (#2)

This is bad news.

I have been trying to convince myself that everyone will pull back from the brink, due to some of the considerations that the post Binay left at the end of the article in the Hindu where this story originates. The headline does suggest grounds for hope in that at least someone is planning to stage TALKS, which are always preferable to BOMBS.

COMMENTS:
This entire issue of Israel attacking Iran is ABSOLUTELY HUMBUG, AND IS THE WORLD'S BIGGEST BLUFF IN CONTEMPORARY HISTORY. War is not going to happen, even if negotiations fail, even if Iran develops the weapon. Choices are stark for the enemies if they attack Iran: a) Any protracted high levels of oil prices will cause the overthrow the President of the United States, and tear apart the democratic structure of the country b) Europe will be in absolute catastrophe because Europe's only and monopoly supplier of natural gas Russia will hike the price by 3 times. There could be wars in Europe, forget about governments being overthrown, which is FOR SURE. c) If any warhead kills even a single Russian or Chinese working in some of the various project sites in Iran, you can be very sure the Russians and Chinese will swiftly get the job done on behalf of Iran (you cant tell the Russians and the Chinese to leave Iran before any war starts)d) Yes, it is not very difficult to unblock Hormuz once or twice if there is any blockade. But for how long ? One year ? Two years ? Four ? Six ? Forever ? The costs and human dangers involved in such operations are horrible. If you bomb Iran, Hormuz blockade will be no more be state (Iran) sponsored, but terrorists and Al Qaida types sponsored. e) Russia will rule the world. Any disruption in ME oil flow will directly benefit Russia. An Iran war is a mouthwatering opportunity for them, with their crude selling at 500$. It will be advantage Russia at the cost of EU and US.
from: Binay
Posted on: Mar 14, 2012 at 22:11 IST

www.thehind u.com/news/international/article2995203.ece

The problem with the analysis is that the writer assumes that the psychotics running Israel and the United States will operate on a sane basis. Control freak psychotics, such as those running Israel and the US, ARE NOT SANE.

Let me repeat that: Control freak psychotics, such as those running Israel and the US, ARE NOT SANE.

In big letters even: Control freak psychotics, such as those running Israel and the US, ARE NOT SANE.

Expecting a psychotic to behave and react as do normal people is an exercise in self delusion.

They will only hold off on the attack if their calculation is that it would damage their power more by attacking than not attacking. The amount of misery, death, and destruction is NOT a consideration (other than for those who perversely delight in it).

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-03-16   21:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Original_Intent (#11)

And that's why we believe almost any Humungous lie repeated often by officials in uniform on TV.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith

tom007  posted on  2012-03-16   21:53:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: tom007 (#12) (Edited)

And that's why we believe almost any Humungous lie repeated often by officials in uniform on TV.

Unfortunately people don't "get it". They have failed to learn the "Ted Bundy", that nice boy next door, lesson. A screaming psychotic can mimic outwardly the behavior of a normal person, and because he/she behaves normally people mistakenly believe they are normal and react the same way they do. Except most normal people don't beat a room full of sleeping co-eds to death with a baseball bat. As I have commented elsewhere a $10,000 Saville Row Suit does not automatically make someone sane.

The numbers of such people is small but they create havoc well out of proportion to their numbers (maybe 2 1/2% of the population - and not all want power, but they are all dangerous), but when they get into positions of high power they can destroy nations and worlds.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-03-16   22:06:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Original_Intent (#13) (Edited)

elsewhere a $10,000 Saville Row Suit does not automatically make someone sane.

I do not have a 100000 suit but I am well dressed gentleman.

Well dressed meaning a lot of presentable normal dress, and all (nearly) 0f the Arctic weather outer gear u would want.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith

tom007  posted on  2012-03-16   23:20:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: All (#14)

Don't start me on boots.

Asolos GTX

Scarpa SLM3

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith

tom007  posted on  2012-03-16   23:26:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: All (#15)

Scarpa SLM3

I am thinking about buying these legendary boots.

I am currently using Asolos GTX, which I LOVE.

Folks seem to LOVE the Scrapa SLM3. $250

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith

tom007  posted on  2012-03-16   23:33:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: All (#16)

I am thinking about buying these legendary boots.

And putting them new on the kitchen table for all to admire.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith

tom007  posted on  2012-03-16   23:35:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Original_Intent (#10)

While I hate no one I do despise traitors, and any Jew or Christian who puts the interests of Israel ahead of the welfare of their fellow Americans is a traitor and should be regarded as such.

And I believe dual citizenship should be outlawed. Same principle - either you are an American or you are not. It is really quite that simple.

Damn straight....Well-said.

"The 'uniter' has brought the entire world together - to despise and deride us." Lod

Bub  posted on  2012-03-16   23:45:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Bub (#18)

Thanks.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-03-17   0:20:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: tom007 (#14)

Well dressed meaning a lot of presentable normal dress, and all (nearly) 0f the Arctic weather outer gear u would want.

Thank Heaven that I do not live in that climate zone any more. I'll take my rain and 45 and like it. Although I do have a good cold weather coat - makes me look like a puffed up eskimo.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-03-17   0:33:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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