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Title: Inside 9/11 - Who controlled the planes?
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.torontohearings.org
Published: Mar 17, 2012
Author: staff
Post Date: 2012-03-17 09:43:03 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 399
Comments: 22

Why made all four hijacked planes on 9/11 long detours? How did the hijackers know about "radar holes"? How could they conduct key hijacking events simultaneously all within 10 minutes? Who controlled the planes?

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

Long past time to move on from this endless speculation.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-03-17   10:26:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Cynicom (#1) (Edited)

Never, never, never will we forget these crimes - and all the other crimes too - that this generation traitors has foisted off on us as the acts of loners, loose cannons and "terrorists."

Coming generations of critics will rise - and are rising now - to take our place when we are gone.

A people that would and could throw the bums out in the voting booth never has to. - Prefrontal Vortex

randge  posted on  2012-03-17   12:17:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: randge (#2)

did you see the abc news story from Jan. 2012 "RON PAUL CALLS 9/11 CONSPIRACY CHARGE NONSENSE"? i had missed that, but found it yesterday when updating my RON PAUL ON 9/11 CONSPIRACIES chronology.It is quite the schitzophrenic collection, lol.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-03-17   12:25:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ada (#0) (Edited)

Inside 9/11 - Who controlled the planes?

I recently finished reading a book by Donn de Grand Pre, in which the author claims that the 9-11 planes were controlled by a Global Hawk.

Google that one. It is made by Boeing. The way it works is that the aircraft controls are over-ridden by the Global Hawk, and the plane can be flown anywhere it is directed by the operators of the Global Hawk. In the recent past, they flew a 747 from Hawaii to Australia with NO pilot on board.

I reiterate, there were no hijackers on board the 9-11 aircraft. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-03-17   12:35:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: randge (#2)

randge...

Endless speculation as to the mechanics of the crime often border on the trite and inane.

For instance, it was not an aircraft that hit the Pentagon.

That defies all logic and sanity.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-03-17   13:26:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#1)

Long past time to move on from this endless speculation.

Oh no no no -- we must also obsess endlessly over Kennedy and the moon landings in addition to 9-11!

"You shall have fun, no matter what you do." -- Turtle

Turtle  posted on  2012-03-17   13:46:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Turtle (#6)

I spend my time pondering the present and future.

One can "see' the future if they concentrate long and hard.

Trying to unravel the past is fruitless as the the past has been lied about, warped, revised, and forgotten.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-03-17   13:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#7) (Edited)

It will out.

Given time, this will out.

If you let them control the past, they will have your present and your future also.

That is why we are in the pickle we're in.

Thinking people have waded too far into these things for them to just disappear.

They won't. They have a life of their own.

A people that would and could throw the bums out in the voting booth never has to. - Prefrontal Vortex

randge  posted on  2012-03-17   14:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#1)

What do you say that?

Ada  posted on  2012-03-17   14:41:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ada (#9)

What do you say that?

Note I said move on from the endless speculation, not the event.

Speculation has become so widespread that it is embarrassing at some of the "theories" postulated. All of that has distracted from the event and its evildoers.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-03-17   17:11:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ada (#9)

Ada...

Here is a detailed accounting of testimony given by eyewitnesses that watched the Pentagon event.

After the fact, with hundreds watching, the landing gear from the aircraft was removed with heavy equipment. Those that say a missile hit the Pentagon denied that and said the gear had been planted.

Such only dilutes the effort for the truth...

" Trends in witness data Questions of witness fraud Questions of witness contamination

Trends in Witness Data

Anyone who reads the collections of Pentagon witness accounts such as Eric Bart's is likely to be impressed by the broad agreement among witnesses on aspects of the event -- the low-angle approach of a large jetliner followed by a huge explosion and billowing smoke. Some proponents of theories excluding a jetliner have amplified inconsistencies and bizarre details in the accounts, while ignoring their agreement.

Joël v.d. Reijden created the following summary of the frequencies of specific observations in the eyewitness reports described in the compilations by Eric Bart and SomeGuyYouDontKnow33. about 89 The amount of eye witnesses I gathered who stated they saw an object crash into the Pentagon. The vast majority of the still available ones. at least 45 The amount of eye witnesses who reported seeing a plane and described it with words like: 'airliner', 'big', 'silver', 'roaring', etc. at least 23 The amount of eye witnesses who specifically said they saw an American Airlines jet. In all cases a large jet. at least 22 The amount of witnesses who reported the noise of the plane was very loud to deafening. at least 17 The amount of eye witnesses who stated they saw a plane running down light poles when crossing the highways. at least 12 The amount of eye witnesses who stated they saw and heard the plane increase its throttle at the last seconds. at least 11 The amount of eye witnesses who stated they saw a C-130H flying 30 seconds behind a jetliner. at least 5 The amount of eye witnesses who specifically stated they saw the plane had its gear up.

at least 2 The amount of eye witnesses who stated that they saw a small corporate jet, without doing any creative interpretating [sic] of the witness accounts. at least 0 The amount of eye witnesses who stated they saw a missile. What the person thought he heard isn't relevant! at least 0 The amount of eye witnesses who stated they saw a military jet fighter at the time of the crash. at least 0 The amount of eye witnesses who stated they saw a Global Hawk at the time of the crash. at least 3 The amount of witnesses who reported the sound of the plane was quite noiseless. (One of them acknowledged it was the shock) at least 1 The amount of eye witnesses who stated they saw the plane had it's gear down. (Indirect, said a wheel hit a pole) at least 25 The amount of witnesses who have said something that might point to the use of explosives or incendiaries. (White flash, powerful blast waves which blew people through the air, molten glass, burning aluminium, [sic] spreading debris over hundreds of yards back to where the plane came from, including 2 engines, the missing plane itself, etc.) 1

A quick look at this summary indicates overwhelming support by the eyewitnesses that a large jetliner crashed into the Pentagon.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-03-17   17:23:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ada (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

America: Israel's bitch

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-03-18   8:40:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Artisan (#3)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

America: Israel's bitch

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-03-18   8:45:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: BTP Holdings (#4)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

America: Israel's bitch

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-03-18   8:49:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom (#5)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

America: Israel's bitch

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-03-18   10:20:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom, All (#7) (Edited)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

America: Israel's bitch

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-03-18   10:21:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: randge (#8)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

America: Israel's bitch

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-03-18   10:24:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Eric Stratton (#13)

I respect moreso a person who, when face with monstrous obvious evil, is not too cowardly & amoral to confront it head on. Senator Karen Johnson, an old lady. has more cajones than ron paul. Bowing to thw govt story is bearing false witness.Very grave sin

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-03-18   17:08:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Artisan (#18)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

America: Israel's bitch

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-03-18   17:26:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: randge (#2)

I won't forget. And I have a price to exact in actual loss to these Traitor Terrorists. I'm going to exact it, too.

Cornhuskerkid  posted on  2012-03-18   18:53:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Eric Stratton (#14)

As to where the jets may have been controlled from, it's more or less irrelevant, eh.

Donn explains that in his fourth book. It was a Global Hawk that flew the planes into the twin towers.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-03-22   17:03:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cornhuskerkid (#20)

I'm going to exact it, too.

Sounds as if you are saying we should have a new Revolution.

We are still a colony of the British Empire. This is explained by The Informer on his website, atgpress.com

I think, tho, he has taken his webtie offline because of little interest in it. You can try it if you wish. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-03-22   17:07:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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