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Title: Is it REALLY that Offensive Or Are Some People Too PC? A Poll for the board
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Published: Mar 18, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-03-18 23:27:22 by James Deffenbach
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I posted a joke on the board earlier and I would like to know from anyone who will reply if they believe it to be offensive. While I personally didn't think it was out of line I got (I think) three comments from people who sounded as if they were offended by it. The thread is The Fire Chief Said....?. Is it offensive, yes or no?

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Jokes, especially racist ones, can often be offensive for a portion of the audience. Can be. So to say the joke is offensive or even mildly offensive doesn't necessarily mean the joke is problematic.

Personally, I think the matter is more of whether or not it's funny. This one not so much, but credit to you my friend for your effort.

Wnat appears to be of even graver concern at this moment is...

Who the fuck is this Jameson character all of a sudden and...

OMG... Snopes?

As a reference?

Give your head a shake bud.

Anyway, James my friend. You're jokes are no worse than mine.

wudidiz  posted on  2012-03-19   1:20:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I had heard the joke before. I didn't find it offensive but I like racially offensive jokes.

changing the puppet does not change the play.

farmfriend  posted on  2012-03-19   1:22:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Jewish Rabbi and a Catholic Priest standing outside of a church. Little boy runs past them and into the church. Priest says to the Rabbi, "let's fuck him." Rabbi says, "Out of what?"

wudidiz  posted on  2012-03-19   1:42:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

When I read it, I got so mad I thought about grabbing my axe and going into the local forest and chopping down all the endangered trees there where the spotted owls live, and stomping on all the endangered flowers.

Then I was going to go to the city zoo and start setting all the animals free. So I could hunt them.

Finally I was going to blow up a tanker full of crude oil in the harbor so my neighbors would be able to empathize with me in knowing how angry an frustrated I felt about your joke.

But I don't know if that qualifies as "offended". Maybe you should be more specific??

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-03-19   3:43:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"You hit the nail on the head my friend. It's all upside down now, or so it seems. "

When Everyone understands that, we're making progress!

Wife and I frequently comment on that.

ndcorup  posted on  2012-03-19   3:43:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

When you realize that the "only" unprotected group out there are white males it makes the whole PC race / gender bias concept a joke.

"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul."

Mahatma Gandhi

noone222  posted on  2012-03-19   4:20:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

When I read it, I got so mad I thought about grabbing my axe and going into the local forest and chopping down all the endangered trees there where the spotted owls live, and stomping on all the endangered flowers.

Then I was going to go to the city zoo and start setting all the animals free. So I could hunt them.

Finally I was going to blow up a tanker full of crude oil in the harbor so my neighbors would be able to empathize with me in knowing how angry an frustrated I felt about your joke.

Those are all outstanding ideas.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-03-19   6:54:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I got a good chuckle out of it. Funny stuff, James.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2012-03-19   9:35:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I would not say I was offended I just didn't get the line of the joke that's all.

Well, at first I was thinking that two or maybe three people took offense (and you were one of them). So now I can take you off the offended list.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-03-19   11:26:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thanks X-15.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-03-19   11:27:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i thought the punch line was funny. when i grew up people werent worried about if racial jokes were offensive. theyre just jokes, big deal.

That's what I thought too--it's a joke, just like I told Obama's sycophant, Jameson. And can you imagine going to snopes to check on anything, let alone whether a JOKE is "real" or not? LOL! That right there is even funnier than the original joke that sent him on that chase.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-03-19   11:29:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I thought the complaints were satire, part of ya'alls banter ~ like an onion report ~

I thought that those who were complaining were seeing something I wasn't.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-03-19   11:30:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

OMG... Snopes?

As a reference?

LOL! That is what I thought too.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-03-19   11:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I had heard the joke before. I didn't find it offensive but I like racially offensive jokes.

Thanks ff.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-03-19   11:31:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

When I read it, I got so mad I thought about grabbing my axe and going into the local forest and chopping down all the endangered trees there where the spotted owls live, and stomping on all the endangered flowers.

Then I was going to go to the city zoo and start setting all the animals free. So I could hunt them.

Finally I was going to blow up a tanker full of crude oil in the harbor so my neighbors would be able to empathize with me in knowing how angry an frustrated I felt about your joke.

But I don't know if that qualifies as "offended". Maybe you should be more specific??

LOL! So I can put you in the "may have been offended category but need more information to know for sure"?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-03-19   11:33:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

When Everyone understands that, we're making progress!

Wife and I frequently comment on that.

Yeah, it's a sad old world when you can't make fun of race baiters and poverty pimps like Jesse Jackson, John Burris and Al Sharpton without some folks getting offended by it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-03-19   11:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

When you realize that the "only" unprotected group out there are white males it makes the whole PC race / gender bias concept a joke.

Indeed, good point.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-03-19   11:34:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No, it isn't offensive. Sharpton & Jackson are offensive and to use absurdity to underline their racial biases against whites is fair game. To anyone who is offended, you should have been NYC when Sharpton caused a near riot with his Tawana Brawley caper, and Jackson his Hymietown slur.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-03-19   11:36:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I got a good chuckle out of it. Funny stuff, James.

Thank you.

It appears that while it may not be unanimous the general consensus is that it was not offensive. Whether it was all that funny or not, well, people have different ideas about what is funny.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-03-19   11:36:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No, it isn't offensive. Sharpton & Jackson are offensive and to use absurdity to underline their racial biases against whites is fair game. To anyone who is offended, you should have been NYC when Sharpton caused a near riot with his Tawana Brawley caper, and Jackson his Hymietown slur.

Yes, I remember those incidents. Did Sharpton EVER admit that he had been played like a cheap violin?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-03-19   11:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

what strikes me most about this thread is that people dont realize how good they have it. anyone even reading such a 4um has it better than 99.99% of the rest of the world's population. a lot of people have real problems.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-03-19   11:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I reckon Jameson has it so good that he can worry about a joke that might offend Jackson, Burris and/or Sharpton. Personally, I wouldn't care if those clowns were offended, they are offensive to me.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-03-19   11:54:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

its sort of funny what people get offended at.Yesterday i used a restroom that didnt have soap.After arguing i told the employee 'this is the u.s. we have health codes here'.He said 'now youre offending me!.i said, u can be offended all you want.Get soap.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-03-19   12:10:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Did Sharpton EVER admit that he had been played like a cheap violin?

Nope, Sharpton went on to compound the lie by claiming that the DA of the county involved actually raped Brawley. That this street agitator is taken seriously is prima facie evidence of the MSM's racial, anti white (male) agenda.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-03-19   12:20:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i said, u can be offended all you want.Get soap.

LOL!!!

You are NO shrinking violet Mr A :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-03-19   12:23:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

lol, the guy was an a-hole, & his bad attitude prompted me to push the issue. and actually, i looked up some codes & realized they dont even comply with federal ADA bathroom specs. i can really F them, & i just might. should have shut up & gotten my soap

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-03-19   12:34:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I know all about the health codes from my early years in the PD. When we knew a restaurant was dirty (as in involved in heavy criminal activity) we'd make sure there wasn't any soap in the bathroom when we checked. And as Walter Cronkite was fond of saying, "....and that's the way it (was)"....

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-03-19   12:39:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

LOL! So I can put you in the "may have been offended category but need more information to know for sure"?

Exactly. For example, you didn't say what color the house was.

On a serious note though, the ethnic differences between whites, blacks, asians hispanics, etc are real -- every ethnicity is different, of course. Otherwise we wouldn't have the term. Here in Ecuador, there's a much more profound difference between the indigenous (indian) population and the Latinos/whites. They are shorter and smaller, and as a rule are probably less intelligent, though whether that's due to genetics or because they generally grow up on farms and learn to grow crops and nothing else, I don't know. Raising an indian baby in an academic environment may well give you as smart a kid as any other.

I do respect them though. Ecuador really owes it's existence to the indigenous people because they are the ones feeding the country. They work hard and are not slackers, and their communities out in the country enforce their own code of ethics & laws sometimes. But here, I've come to appreciate the *real* differences between ethnicities that in my earlier years in the USA I didn't think existed.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-03-19   12:45:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yeah, it's a sad old world when you can't make fun of race baiters and poverty pimps like Jesse Jackson, John Burris and Al Sharpton without some folks getting offended by it.

I don't make fun of "those"... they have wayyyyy too many issues, it would be like beating a dead beetle... all ya see is the slimy inside after the first hit ;)

Refinersfire  posted on  2012-03-19   12:49:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

so i assume im correct that when a business provides a public restroom, they must have a sink & soap dispensor. Seems like common sense & decensy. Damn its amazing what people will bicker about.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-03-19   12:50:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

its sort of funny what people get offended at.Yesterday i used a restroom that didnt have soap.After arguing i told the employee 'this is the u.s. we have health codes here'.He said 'now youre offending me!.i said, u can be offended all you want.Get soap.

LOL! I don't understand folks who run restaurants (especially those) who let the bathroom go without soap.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-03-19   13:23:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I do respect them though. Ecuador really owes it's existence to the indigenous people because they are the ones feeding the country. They work hard and are not slackers, and their communities out in the country enforce their own code of ethics & laws sometimes. But here, I've come to appreciate the *real* differences between ethnicities that in my earlier years in the USA I didn't think existed.

Yeah, without them people would quickly learn that farming is hard work. Even if you have decent equipment to do it with it's not the easiest work in the world.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-03-19   13:27:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't make fun of "those"... they have wayyyyy too many issues, it would be like beating a dead beetle... all ya see is the slimy inside after the first hit ;)

Well, I reckon I wouldn't miss an opportunity to make fun of those scammers. I will never forget back when the Bush/Gore election was being contested in Florida and Jesse went down there to stir up whatever trouble he could some guy on FR made one of the funniest posts. He said he could just see Jesse running around in circles, hands over his head, and yelling "We been disenfrenchfried, we been disenfrenchfried!" LOL!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-03-19   13:29:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It didn't offend me at all.

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F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-03-19   14:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Glad it didn't. Seems that it might have upset some (maybe two if even that) highly sensitive people but if that is the case what are they doing on a political message board?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-03-19   14:44:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I didn't actually get the joke (Probably because I've never lived in a 4 story dwelling.) but was offended that you chose to post it on the Sabbath.

" Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics................................ Even if you win, you're still retarded ":

Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities. –Voltaire

Hmmmmm  posted on  2012-03-19   15:03:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I didn't actually get the joke (Probably because I've never lived in a 4 story dwelling.) but was offended that you chose to post it on the Sabbath.

Oh woe is me. >(;^{]

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-03-19   15:09:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i thought the punch line was funny. when i grew up people werent worried about if racial jokes were offensive. they're just jokes, big deal.

amen to that.

christine  posted on  2012-03-19   21:02:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thanks Christine.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-03-19   23:23:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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