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Title: French unrest spreads outside Paris
Source: Guardian Unlimited
URL Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/france/story/0,11882,1634739,00.html
Published: Nov 4, 2005
Author: Staff and agencies
Post Date: 2005-11-04 15:05:20 by Tauzero
Keywords: spreads, outside, French
Views: 760
Comments: 47

French unrest spreads outside Paris

Staff and agencies Friday November 4, 2005

A disabled person was badly burned in an attack on a city bus and more than four hundred cars were torched during an eighth night of rioting in Paris suburbs.

Government officials cited a falling number of direct clashes with police to claim that the situation was becoming calmer, but the violence also spread out of the capital's immediate vicinity.

Reports of unrest surfaced in Rouen in Normandy, Dijon in Burgundy and the Mediterranean port of Marseille. A bus depot was set on fire to the west of Paris in the town of Trappes, near Versailles, destroying 27 buses.

An amateur video aired on television showed them all in a row and in flames.

Gerard Gaudron, mayor of Aulnay-sous-Bois, one of the worst-hit suburbs, insisted "the peak is now behind us" but in the low-income estates on the edge of Paris the mayhem continued.

In Seine-Saint-Denis, the department between central Paris and Charles de Gaulle airport, arson attacks destroyed 187 vehicles and five buildings. Two commuter trains to the airport also came under attack.

Further east, riot police were fired on in Neuilly-sur-Marne and a group of 30 to 40 were harassing police near a synagogue in Stains, where a city bus was torched and a school classroom partially burned.

"Why a school, why a car? What can you say about such blind violence," one local mayor, Michel Beaumale, said.

The unrest started on October 27 when young people of mainly north or black African origin took to the streets over the deaths of two teenagers - Bouna Traore, 15, and Zyed Benna, 17 - who were electrocuted in a power substation where they hid thinking they were being chased by police.

Bouna's brother, Siyakah Traore, today called for the rioters to "calm down and stop ransacking everything."

"This is not how we are going to have our voices heard," he told RTL radio.

Small-scale suburban violence and car torchings are a regular though largely unreported fact of life in troubled Paris suburbs and other French cities where low-income housing estates are marked by unemployment and delinquency.

What sets the current unrest apart is its duration, and the way it rapidly ignited beyond the original flash point.

Residents in the bleak estates were fed up after eight nights of violence. "I've had enough of this," a woman of African origin in Aulnay-sous-Bois told Reuters.

Local politicians complained last night about dithering among national officials after prime minister Dominique de Villepin briefed them about an "action plan for the suburbs" which he aims to present later this month.

"Many of us told him this isn't the time for an umpteenth plan," said Jean-Christophe Lagarde, mayor of Drancy. "All we need is one death and I think it will get out of control."

The rioting has grown into a broader challenge for the French state. It has laid bare discontent simmering in suburbs that are heavily populated by poor African Muslim immigrants and their French-born children, many trapped by poverty, crime and poor education.

France's Muslim population, an estimated 5 million, is Western Europe's largest. Disaffected members claim racism makes the second class citizens.

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#1. To: Tauzero, Zipporah (#0)

Their housing is paid for by the government, and they have so many children that the regular French people will not longer get the benefits they once had. My little brother will have to work now until he is 72 yrs old if he wants to get retirement because the French economy is so broken from supporting all these people.

It used to be mainly the Algerians but now many people from former French colonies in black Africa have come to live in France too, and the young men from both groups tend to form gangs and cause all sorts of mayhem, and they get into gang wars too.

I think I'll call my mother and ask her what is this all about, the "French youth" fighting and rioting. In France it's against the law to make mention of race so they just call them "youths".

Diana  posted on  2005-11-04   15:38:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Diana (#1)

hey Diana.. let us know what your family says about this.. hearing from someone who is living there would be really informative.

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-04   15:51:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zipporah (#2)

I will, I'm going to call my mother in a little bit. I haven't talked to her in about a week, she lives in a small town that has no Algerians, but I'm sure she knows all about it as it has to be a big deal in their news.

Whenever these things happen (this is the worst case I've heard of) they always refer to them as "French youths" which gives a very wrong impression to people who don't know better.

Diana  posted on  2005-11-04   15:59:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Diana (#3)

Whenever these things happen (this is the worst case I've heard of) they always refer to them as "French youths" which gives a very wrong impression to people who don't know better.

They've managed to totally screw up France and I dont mean the immigrants.. although of course they're pawns in this.. Take a look at France and see our future..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-04   16:02:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Zipporah (#4)

This is weird!!

I just called my mother, she is watching some news channel live where Bush is in Argentina, and there are horrible riots breaking out before her eyes and the Argentine police are shooting guns into the crowd now and she told me to call her back because she can't believe what she was seeing.

I wonder if it's on CNN? This is one of those times I wish I had a tv, I didn't even know Bush was in Argentina.

When she answered the phone I tried to ask her about the riots in France but she was so shocked by what was going on live in Argentina. She said to call her back so I will wait a while and do that. Do you know anything about this? She said it's crazy what she is seeing.

Diana  posted on  2005-11-04   16:20:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Diana (#5)

Riots in France, riots in Argentina, interesting events indeed. You ever get the feeling like too many people have been far too docile for far too long in the face of far too many insults, and now we're going to reap the whirlwind of rage that has been building up for so many years? I'm thinking the next few years are going to be notable for their violence.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2005-11-04   16:30:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Elliott Jackalope (#8)

I've heard that the riots have spread to Denmark but haven't found any news in the Danish press to confirm this..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-11-04   16:50:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#18. To: Zipporah (#15)

I wonder about Amsterdam? There have been a lot of north Africans immigrating there in recent decades, and in the past few years many of them have turned violent.

All over Europe the Muslims from these countries have become very radical, and taking on the cause of the Palestinians has become very fashionable among their angry young men.

Diana  posted on  2005-11-04 16:55:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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