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Title: French unrest spreads outside Paris
Source: Guardian Unlimited
URL Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/france/story/0,11882,1634739,00.html
Published: Nov 4, 2005
Author: Staff and agencies
Post Date: 2005-11-04 15:05:20 by Tauzero
Keywords: spreads, outside, French
Views: 488
Comments: 47

French unrest spreads outside Paris

Staff and agencies Friday November 4, 2005

A disabled person was badly burned in an attack on a city bus and more than four hundred cars were torched during an eighth night of rioting in Paris suburbs.

Government officials cited a falling number of direct clashes with police to claim that the situation was becoming calmer, but the violence also spread out of the capital's immediate vicinity.

Reports of unrest surfaced in Rouen in Normandy, Dijon in Burgundy and the Mediterranean port of Marseille. A bus depot was set on fire to the west of Paris in the town of Trappes, near Versailles, destroying 27 buses.

An amateur video aired on television showed them all in a row and in flames.

Gerard Gaudron, mayor of Aulnay-sous-Bois, one of the worst-hit suburbs, insisted "the peak is now behind us" but in the low-income estates on the edge of Paris the mayhem continued.

In Seine-Saint-Denis, the department between central Paris and Charles de Gaulle airport, arson attacks destroyed 187 vehicles and five buildings. Two commuter trains to the airport also came under attack.

Further east, riot police were fired on in Neuilly-sur-Marne and a group of 30 to 40 were harassing police near a synagogue in Stains, where a city bus was torched and a school classroom partially burned.

"Why a school, why a car? What can you say about such blind violence," one local mayor, Michel Beaumale, said.

The unrest started on October 27 when young people of mainly north or black African origin took to the streets over the deaths of two teenagers - Bouna Traore, 15, and Zyed Benna, 17 - who were electrocuted in a power substation where they hid thinking they were being chased by police.

Bouna's brother, Siyakah Traore, today called for the rioters to "calm down and stop ransacking everything."

"This is not how we are going to have our voices heard," he told RTL radio.

Small-scale suburban violence and car torchings are a regular though largely unreported fact of life in troubled Paris suburbs and other French cities where low-income housing estates are marked by unemployment and delinquency.

What sets the current unrest apart is its duration, and the way it rapidly ignited beyond the original flash point.

Residents in the bleak estates were fed up after eight nights of violence. "I've had enough of this," a woman of African origin in Aulnay-sous-Bois told Reuters.

Local politicians complained last night about dithering among national officials after prime minister Dominique de Villepin briefed them about an "action plan for the suburbs" which he aims to present later this month.

"Many of us told him this isn't the time for an umpteenth plan," said Jean-Christophe Lagarde, mayor of Drancy. "All we need is one death and I think it will get out of control."

The rioting has grown into a broader challenge for the French state. It has laid bare discontent simmering in suburbs that are heavily populated by poor African Muslim immigrants and their French-born children, many trapped by poverty, crime and poor education.

France's Muslim population, an estimated 5 million, is Western Europe's largest. Disaffected members claim racism makes the second class citizens.

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#26. To: Tauzero (#0)

Trying to take the drama out of Aulnay’s misfortune, Gerard Gaudron, the center-right Mayor, said that the wreckers were not all voyous (louts), the term that Sarkozy uses to brand the rioters. “Some come out to have fun,” he said. “Instead of playing with their Playstation, they hit the police.”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5394695,00.html

Before this, those hummus homeys from the projects have been playing with their playstations alright. I never knew that "playstation" is Arabic for "virgins"

2003: The International Herald Tribune | >http://www.iht.com

France takes on plague of sexual 'rite'
Elaine Sciolino/NYT NYT
Thursday, October 23, 2003

VIGNEUX-SUR-SEINE, France The boys were patient, standing in line and waiting their turn to rape.

Their two victims, girls of 13, were patient as well, never crying out, at least that is what the neighbors said, and enduring the violence and abuse not once, but repeatedly over five months.

That was three years ago. Late last month, 10 young men, now ranging in age from 18 to 21, were convicted of rape in a closed courtroom in nearby Evry and sentenced to prison terms ranging from three to five years. Seven others will go on trial in November. The fact that they are being brought to justice at all is highly unusual.

The phenomenon of gang rape in France has become banal. It occurs - how often is unknown - in the concrete wastelands built as cheap housing for immigrants on the outskirts of France's big cities. Here, according to sociologists and prosecutors, teenage boys, many of them loosely organized into gangs, prey on neighborhood girls.

Many of the boys are raised in closed, traditional families and are hopelessly confused or ignorant about sex; others are simply street toughs. In this world, women enjoy little respect; often girls who appear weak, or who wear tight-fitting clothing or go out unaccompanied by their fathers or brothers are considered fair game.

To avoid trouble, many girls of the projects have taken to wearing loose-fitting jogging clothes and hidden themselves behind domineering fathers or brothers; others have organized themselves into their own gangs. Many of the Muslim girls have donned head scarves - more for protection than out of religious conviction.

In the basement of 4 Place Albert Einstein, in this working-class suburb where the rapes took place, a graffiti message scrawled across a white wall explains why so few cases are prosecuted. "The law of silence is our sixth sense," it reads. "I've heard too many of these stories, and it's become unbearable," said Samira Bellil, 30, a gang-rape victim, whose book, "In Gang-Rape Hell," was a bestseller in France last year. "The word of the boys is often believed. So the trauma is not just the violence but the torment that comes if a girl comes forward and breaks the silence. We have to stop taking sides with the wolves."

Bellil was gang-raped at age 14. She had fallen in love and agreed to have sex with her boyfriend. Three of his friends were waiting outside. They kicked and beat her and gang-raped her throughout the night. She waited before reporting the rapes, and did so only after three of her friends told her that they, too, had been raped by one of her attackers. Copyright © 2002 The International Herald Tribune

http://www.psychohistory.com/htm/06a1_incest.html

mennyiben  posted on  2005-11-05   11:45:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: mennyiben (#26)

often girls who appear weak, or who wear tight-fitting clothing or go out unaccompanied by their fathers or brothers are considered fair game.

To avoid trouble, many girls of the projects have taken to wearing loose-fitting jogging clothes and hidden themselves behind domineering fathers or brothers; others have organized themselves into their own gangs. Many of the Muslim girls have donned head scarves - more for protection than out of religious conviction.

Civilization unraveling before our eyes...thanks for posting this article.

robin  posted on  2005-11-05   11:55:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: robin (#28)

Ain't multiculturalism grand? On a personal note, my Syrian grandpa immigrated in the early 1900's. His name was Amin Salim and my mother born here, was named Fatima(!). But he wanted to be an American. Now it's different, they want to import Islam and misogyny and the governments don't control immigration and the academia-crats make excuses for their behavior.

You can google "gang rape Paris", or Denmark or Australia, etc., it's getting to be worldwide, it's nightmarish. Well I guess it could be worse, in Saudi Arabia, they'd execute the girl for being raped.

Here's an excerpt, cbsnews:

Samira Bellil wasn't asking for trouble, but trouble came to her. She's the granddaughter of Algerian immigrants and she's written a book about surviving the hell of the Paris ghettos.

"I was gang raped by three people I knew, and I couldn't say anything, because in my culture, your family is dishonored if you lose your virginity,” says Bellil. “So I kept quiet, and the rapes continued. The next time, I was pulled off a commuter train and no one lifted a finger to help me. …Everybody turned their head away. They were all looking out the window.”

When Bellil's family discovered that she had been raped, they weren't sympathetic. They threw her out onto the streets. But she's since discovered that what happened to her was not the only case.

“There was a trial in Lille where a 13-year-old girl was gang raped by 80 men. Sometimes, it’s 80, or 50 or 10. It’s absolutely terrible,” says Bellil. “In the case of Argenteuil, it was horrible. A young woman was raped in a school. Of course, everybody knew, but they're so afraid of these young men that they prefer to close their eyes. That's the price of peace in the ghettos.”

When the verdicts came down in this case, the courthouse turned into a madhouse. Eighteen teenagers were convicted of raping a 15-year-old girl over a two-month period. But what really shocked France was how the mothers of those boys reacted.

“You call this justice, seven years in prison for some oral sex,” says one mother. “It's the girl who should be behind bars.

Aboubacar was one of those convicted, not of raping the girl, but of knowing about it, and doing nothing to stop it. “When you live in a neighborhood that's so dark and tough, you can’t mess with others' business, unless you want to put your life on the line,” says Aboubacar.

He received a suspended sentence, and now he's using his rap music to spread the message that violence is wrong.

“We were gangsters. If someone was robbing a house, I had to follow the group, otherwise they'd say I wasn't a man,” says Aboubacar. “Men are stronger than women. Men are more respected than women. So if I don't have many brothers, my sister can be attacked. But if I come from a big family, people will lower their eyes when they pass my sister. That's part of the law.”

(nations who throw out the law of Ten Commandments are getting the law of sharia instead.)

mennyiben  posted on  2005-11-05   13:19:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#30. To: mennyiben (#29)

Well I guess it could be worse, in Saudi Arabia, they'd execute the girl for being raped.

True enough.

“There was a trial in Lille where a 13-year-old girl was gang raped by 80 men. Sometimes, it’s 80, or 50 or 10. It’s absolutely terrible,” says Bellil. “In the case of Argenteuil, it was horrible. A young woman was raped in a school. Of course, everybody knew, but they're so afraid of these young men that they prefer to close their eyes. That's the price of peace in the ghettos.”

So a child is tortured, seriously tortured in the most degrading and permanent way, and she receives no help or sympathy.

That's not a civilization. It is not a culture to be respected, but rather despised in every way.

I only wish America had a moral leg to stand on. But, we are very wobbly after Abu Ghraib.
And even this week, the Vice President was in Congress pressuring them to pass legislation to make torture legal.

A slightly related subject, I watched a Lifetime made for tv movie last night on human trafficking. It's a fast-growing evil, that makes the most $$ after drugs and illegal weapons. And these children & young women don't often make it out alive. 800,000 annually are crossed over borders, it said at the end of the movie. The Russian Oligarchs are into this new "industry" which can cross over into the porn industry.

This website is also mentioned:

equalitynow.org

robin  posted on  2005-11-05 13:36:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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