4um: John Hagee Alleges a Copyright Claim on His Prayer for War

Title: John Hagee Alleges a Copyright Claim on His Prayer for War
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Published: Mar 21, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-03-21 09:14:45 by Eric Stratton
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Who would believe that in early 2003, just before the second USA annihilation of Iraq, Reverend John Hagee held hands with Rev. Benny Hinn, praying for war, In the name of Jesus. That is the title of our much watched video on YouTube, produced by Tom Compton at We Hold These Truths. Now, if you go to YouTube to watch it, you’ll be disappointed. You will see this message:

"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by John Hagee Ministries." ¹

Here is part of the prayer: Hagee: "Father... I pray for our President...that you would give him the wisdom of Solomon to lead this nation into war against the enemies of righteousness...I pray God that the enemy shall be destroyed and that the angels of heaven go before the US and British forces bringing deliverance to that part of the world and, most assuredly, deliverance to Israel....in Jesus name, amen."

John Hagee Ministries appears to have made a false statement to YouTube, that it has a copyright on the WHTT four minute film, which contains 54 seconds of Hagee's prayer for war. It had over 25,000 views on YouTube before being removed. Hagee's lawyers have challenged our right to show part of his prayer when, in fact, if anyone were to complain it would be Benny Hinn, who copyrighted the entire 28 min. 32 second, disgusting, fund raising show containing Hagee's prayer in 2003. Hagee, in later sermons, has often preached for war upon Iran to assist Israel, but he seems to have stopped praying for war “In the Name of Jesus.”

It is easy to be diverted into an appealing fight when someone takes a swing at your nose. Hagee has paid his lawyers to prevent viewers from seeing our short video. This might make a fun legal battle if some public spirited copyright lawyer wants to take up that case in our behalf, have at it! But we have another purpose to stick to.

We want your help in keeping alive our struggle for the survival of more millions of human war targets. Our objective is to prevent the next war, wherever it is to be, maybe Iran, maybe elsewhere.

John Hagee is a fanatical, Christian Zionist buffoon, who is rapidly being discredited. He is not the primary object of our work, even though we have devoted considerable time and money exposing him and his passionate connection to Israel. He is a warmaker with a “Christian” label.

We have held vigils at six or seven of Hagee’s events in order to reach his misguided followers. And we want them and other YouTube viewers to see Hagee praying his anti-Christian war prayer. WHTT will re-publishing Tom Compton's four minute video on YouTube, this time including the written transcription of Hagee’s prayer for war, in place of the anti-Christ film showing him reciting it. It will show our vigil for peace at the mega-church owned by Pastor George Morrison, who hosted a "Night to Honor Israel" where Hagee was present.

Because Morrison is widely respected, he is much more dangerous to world peace than Hagee. He also runs a K-12 school that preaches Zionism to its students. We need to expose the thousands of pastors who, often without knowing they are doing it, represent the violent war lobby in our country. Most of them are much too smart to recite a prayer for war out loud and in public bacause many of their listeners know Jesus is a Peacemaker.

We work to change your friends and your pastor, not a few fanatics who claim America was founded to stamp out Islam, and who fleece followers of their money to free non-existent slaves in Sudan, as does Pastor Rod Parsley, of Columbus, Ohio. These self-serving Celebrity Zionists will not destroy us with war because too many people have the sense to reject them.

But more clever (or more benignly ignorant) Christian Zionists will help destroy more millions of victims in serial wars, because they know how to appear moderate and reasonable. Thousands of these smooth, sincere sounding pastors are spreading the virus. The latest two to experience our vigils were Lon Solomon at McLean Bible Church² Vienna, VA. and Mauri Davis at Cornerstone Church³ in Nashville, TN. Both of these preach serial wars, "because we must support Israel."

Some well-known traditional Christian evangelical authors have recently begun to refer to Christian Zionists as misguided and see the danger in their numbers, but not fast enough. In fact, there are probably 40-70 million Americans in various stages of self-deception; the number is staggering, and so are the votes they cast. It is they, not Hagee, who will drag us into one war after another, because they believe the story they are told. We must find a way to get past the pastors to their followers, who are being deceived. The leaders will change when they have few followers left.

WHTT held our first vigil in 2003, before the bombing of Iraq, and we were considered so unique in our protest we were covered by major news media as a “peace movement.” Your writer was dubbed “Peace Monger” by one publication, but this coverage disappeared when the media found out We Hold These Truths ties the State of Israel to Christian Zionism, and to our serial wars.The truth is costly.

Fortunately, we are no longer the only ones trying to change church leaders who stray from being peacemakers. Pastors, led by Stephen Sizer, Alex Awad, and others also did their their best at the Christ at the Checkpoint Conference in Bethlehem, Palestine, prodding traditional Christian leaders to action. That conference of some 600, was within range of Israel's tank guns. But it was forced to withdraw its offer to this author to show our video, Christian Zionism: The Tragedy and the Turning⁴ under pressure from the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and its European surrogates. Israel fears the exposure of Christian Zionism and has shown they will spare no cost to protect it.

Our next paper will again give a new detailed account of how the Anti- Defamation League (ADL) and its surrogates worldwide pressured the Bethlehem Conference defame WHTT (as Hagee is doing) and how it protects Christian Zionism from exposure.

We beg you to form your own little Vigil team to cope with the warmaking churches in your city. Read our reports about past vigils done by as few as two! You do not have to be nearly as brave as you think, and we will teach you everything you need to know.

¹ YouTube link to removed WHTT video: "John Hagee With Benny Hinn: Praying for War, In the Name of Jesus"

² Vigil for Peace at McLean Mega Church while AIPAC Demands War

^{3 Messenger's Report On Vigil for Peace with Justice Outside Outside Cornerstone Church, Nashville, TN}

^{4 Trailer and moview download: Christian Zionism: The Tragedy and The Turning}

WHTT's first documentary on Christian Zionism is still available for viewing at no charge on YouTube: The Roots of Christian Zionism: How Scofield Soweds Seeds of Apostasy

Psalm 18:34 He teacheth my hands to war, so that a bow of steel is broken by mine arms.

Psalm 144:1 Blessed be the LORD my strength which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight:

Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

hagee and hinn are the true xians. Those that disagree with them are heretics at best and in league with Satan at "worst". Welcome to the dark side. I bid you a hearty Satanic welcome!

But to the xians, do feel free to ignore your own scriptures, because you always do that anyway. Ignorance is bliss after all.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

curious trend happening here with all these fine folk trying to 'help' us - in this other online community I play in there be a form of preacher also ...

2 weeks ago one of them created a fine video with wonderful music, a beautiful 'appearing' female speaking with a musical voice of love and all the amazing things (gonna puke if I continue about her message) - I used youtube embed to share it on a couple of client web sites - client wrote 2 days ago that video was off making her web site look bad with a warning message

Copyright Infringement is the charge - the 'owner' of this important message to humanity doesn't want it shared freely amongst the ~~stooges~~, er, ~~saps~~, er .... sheep in their own way, even as they dedicate their lives n $s to 'waking up'

I spent one day trying to get anyone who is currently allowed to use it, to answer my request for communication, sharing, fees for use? anything ... then I made my own .... a message to them *g - it got the anger and disgust out of me for a few minutes but is of no use, just made me look bad (or nutty) to future clients and I think it scared my son here *s

1To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

2A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;

3A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;

5A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;

7A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;

8A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace. ....

Joel 3:10 Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong. bible.cc/joel/3-10.htm

Micah 4:3 And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. bible.cc/micah/4-3.htm

Matthew 12:18 "Here is my servant whom I have chosen, the one I love, in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on him, and he will proclaim justice to the nations.

Behold, a son shall be born to thee, who shall be a man of rest; and I will give him rest from all his enemies round about: for his name shall be Solomon [MEANS PEACEABLE, AS IN PRINCE OF PEACE, ISAIAH 9:6-7], and I will give peace and quietness unto Israel in his days.

A lot of churches are the tool of the Zionists [Cornwallis to George Washington: "Your churches will be used to teach the Jews' religion", and so they have!]. not ALL Christians are taken in by the b.s. though. Not ALL Christians are willing to war for israhell.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

I joined the einsatzgruppen. We help little old ladies cross the street, and we rescue kittens from the tops of trees. Do you believe that?

They, by their silence, are willing to go to war for 'israel'. I remember after 9/11 that xians were bitching about muslims not doing enough about speaking out against terrorism. xtians are doing the same thing(s). I guess it's all in who is doing it.

They're heretics. They might as well call themselves satanists because they are opposing the kikes and their 'god'.

And without 'israel', they're nothing. Finished. Kaput. Their existence hinges on the kikes inhabiting the 'holy' land.

To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

I guess this is a time for war, huh? Here's hoping that the right side gets exterminated.

Mark Twain knew John Hagee before he was born, he heard the same "holy" war- mongering over the Spanish-American War of 1898:

“I come from the Throne — bearing a message from Almighty God!” The words smote the house with a shock; if the stranger perceived it he gave no attention. “He has heard the prayer of His servant your shepherd, and will grant it if such shall be your desire after I, His messenger, shall have explained to you its import — that is to say, its full import. For it is like unto many of the prayers of men, in that it asks for more than he who utters it is aware of — except he pause and think.

“God’s servant and yours has prayed his prayer. Has he paused and taken thought? Is it one prayer? No, it is two — one uttered, the other not. Both have reached the ear of Him Who heareth all supplications, the spoken and the unspoken. Ponder this — keep it in mind. If you would beseech a blessing upon yourself, beware! lest without intent you invoke a curse upon a neighbor at the same time. If you pray for the blessing of rain upon your crop which needs it, by that act you are possibly praying for a curse upon some neighbor’s crop which may not need rain and can be injured by it.

“You have heard your servant’s prayer — the uttered part of it. I am commissioned of God to put into words the other part of it — that part which the pastor — and also you in your hearts — fervently prayed silently. And ignorantly and unthinkingly? God grant that it was so! You heard these words: ‘Grant us the victory, O Lord our God!’ That is sufficient. the *whole* of the uttered prayer is compact into those pregnant words. Elaborations were not necessary. When you have prayed for victory you have prayed for many unmentioned results which follow victory–*must* follow it, cannot help but follow it. Upon the listening spirit of God fell also the unspoken part of the prayer. He commandeth me to put it into words. Listen!

“O Lord our Father, our young patriots, idols of our hearts, go forth to battle — be Thou near them! With them — in spirit — we also go forth from the sweet peace of our beloved firesides to smite the foe. O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it — for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.

(After a pause.) “Ye have prayed it; if ye still desire it, speak! The messenger of the Most High waits!”