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Title: Witness: Martin attacked Zimmerman
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URL Source: http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/ne ... in-attacked-zimmerman-03232012
Published: Mar 24, 2012
Author: staff
Post Date: 2012-03-24 16:44:20 by Ada
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Views: 160
Comments: 9

ORLANDO - A witness we haven't heard from before paints a much different picture than we've seen so far of what happened the night 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot and killed.

The night of that shooting, police say there was a witness who saw it all.

Our sister station, FOX 35 in Orlando, has spoken to that witness.

What Sanford Police investigators have in the folder, they put together on the killing of Trayvon Martin few know about.

The file now sits in the hands of the state attorney. Now that file is just weeks away from being opened to a grand jury.

It shows more now about why police believed that night that George Zimmerman shouldn't have gone to jail.

Zimmerman called 911 and told dispatchers he was following a teen. The dispatcher told Zimmerman not to.

And from that moment to the shooting, details are few.

But one man's testimony could be key for the police.

"The guy on the bottom who had a red sweater on was yelling to me: 'help, help…and I told him to stop and I was calling 911," he said.

Trayvon Martin was in a hoodie; Zimmerman was in red.

The witness only wanted to be identified as "John," and didn't not want to be shown on camera.

His statements to police were instrumental, because police backed up Zimmerman's claims, saying those screams on the 911 call are those of Zimmerman.

"When I got upstairs and looked down, the guy who was on top beating up the other guy, was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point," John said.

Zimmerman says the shooting was self defense. According to information released on the Sanford city website, Zimmerman said he was going back to his SUV when he was attacked by the teen.

Sanford police say Zimmerman was bloody in his face and head, and the back of his shirt was wet and had grass stains, indicating a struggle took place before the shooting.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

Hummmmm.

Sheds more color into the situation.

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tom007  posted on  2012-03-24   16:47:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: tom007 (#1)

Yeah, boy, and lots more "color" will be shed on the situation by helpful parties in the coming weeks. You can bet on that.

A people that would and could throw the bums out in the voting booth never has to. - Prefrontal Vortex

randge  posted on  2012-03-24   17:01:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: randge, tom007, ada (#2)

have yall seen that article outlining all the 911 calls zimmerman made over the years? a 1st rate effiminate busibody kook. calling the cops for the stupidest b.s. nonstop.The worst type of neighbor.Id bet he started & caused the whole thing.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-03-24   17:35:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Artisan (#3)

I get that impression also.

When you go about armed with a deadly weapon, you have duty to avoid conflict. You must do what is possible to de-escalate situations that could get out of control.

It sounds like the Zimmerman was pursuing this kid when he was on the phone with 911. He could simply have backed off and let the cops show up and do their thing. Sounds like the idiot brought things to such a pass that he wound up with the kid sitting on his chest giving Zimmerman what fer.

If that indeed is the long and short of it, I can't say that I have any sympathy with the man.

A people that would and could throw the bums out in the voting booth never has to. - Prefrontal Vortex

randge  posted on  2012-03-24   17:54:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ada (#0) (Edited)

One negro is killed and it is non stop outrage and paranoia. It's funny: jigs shot up 40 other jigs in just two days the other weekend in Chicago. 9 or 10 of them died and not a peep out of these "spokespersons for the black community".

But, yeah, it's non-black neighborhood watch captains in gated communities who are the big threat to negroes. Notice that nobody is talking about the mass illegal immigration that has made them irrelevant.

Everybody remember last summer when the nignogs were attacking white people in racial attacks all across America?? Gutless, emasculated whites who swallow this shit, deserve to get lots more of it.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2012-03-24   20:07:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: X-15 (#5)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-03-24   21:49:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: X-15 (#5)

9 or 10 of them died and not a peep out of these "spokespersons for the black community".

Bloodsuckers like Sharpton swoop down and fasten on the grief of others. That's how they live. They gotta eat steaks in restaurants. This is all they know how to do.

Vulture must eat.

A people that would and could throw the bums out in the voting booth never has to. - Prefrontal Vortex

randge  posted on  2012-03-24   22:05:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: randge (#7)

"...Noah Robinson, Jesse Jackson’s half brother, graduated from Wharton School of Business in 1969. He had a promising career ahead of him. Jesse Jackson said, “No, brother, come with me in Chicago. I want you to be my partner.” He brought Noah Robinson into Operation Breadbasket. They subsequently went into business in the Breadbasket Commercial Association and into Operation PUSH as well. Jesse then introduces Noah Robinson to Jeff Fort, who was the head of Blackstone Rangers. This was the biggest – and at the time, the most violent – street gang in Chicago, subsequently convicted of killing more than 200 people. Jeff Fort and Jesse Jackson are closely tied. Noah Robinson gets involved in the gang, he gets lots of business, he becomes a businessman in Chicago – partly with the gangs, partly with Jesse Jackson. He gets lots of contracts with the city government that Jesse helps him get through these minority set-aside programs."

-Geoff Metcalf interviews 'Shakedown' author Ken Timmerman

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2012-03-24   22:28:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: randge (#4)

We may have more to learn about the victim as well. There's a reason the media is using a five year old photo and not more recent pics.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-03-25   18:00:41 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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