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Title: First Man Arrested With Drone Evidence Vows to Fight Case
Source: US News
URL Source: http://www.usnews.com/news/articles ... ence-vows-to-fight-case?page=2
Published: Apr 9, 2012
Author: Jason Koebler
Post Date: 2012-04-10 12:20:55 by Buzzard
Keywords: drones, police, homeland security
Views: 108
Comments: 3

Court must decide if police are allowed to use drones to help make arrests.

The tiny town of Lakota, N.D., is quickly becoming a key testing ground for the legality of the use of unmanned drones by law enforcement after one of its residents became the first American citizen to be arrested with the help of a Predator surveillance drone.

The bizarre case started when six cows wandered onto Rodney Brossart's 3,000 acre farm. Brossart, an alleged anti-government "sovereignist," believed he should have been able to keep the cows, so he and two family members chased police off his land with high powered rifles.

After a 16-hour standoff, the Grand Forks police department SWAT team, armed with a search warrant, used an agreement they've had with Homeland Security for about three years, and called in an unmanned aerial vehicle to pinpoint Brossart's location on the ranch. The SWAT team stormed in and arrested Brossart on charges of terrorizing a sheriff, theft, criminal mischief, and other charges, according to documents.

Brossart says he "had no clue" they used a drone during the standoff until months after his arrest.

"We're not laying over here playing dead on it," says Brossart, who is scheduled to appear in court on April 30. He believes what the SWAT team did was "definitely" illegal.

"We're dealing with it, we've got a couple different motions happening in court fighting [the drone use]."

Repeated calls to Brossart's attorney were not returned. Douglas Manbeck, who is representing the state of North Dakota in the case, says the drone was used after warrants were already issued.

"The alleged crimes were already committed long before a drone was even thought of being used," he says. "It was only used to help assure there weren't weapons and to make [the arrest] safer for both the Brossarts and law enforcement."

"I know it's a touchy subject for anyone to feel that drones are in the air watching them, but I don't think there was any misuse in this case," he added.

While there's no precedent for the use of unmanned drones by law enforcement, John Villasenor, an expert on information gathering and drone use with the Washington, D.C.-based Brookings Institution, says he'd be "floored" if the court throws the case out. Using a drone is no different than using a helicopter, he says.

"It may have been the first time a drone was used to make an arrest, but it's certainly not going to be the last," Villasenor says. "I would be very surprised if someone were able to successfully launch a legal challenge [in Brossart's case]."

Villasenor points to two Supreme Court cases—California v. Ciraolo in 1986 and Florida v. Riley in 1989— that allow law enforcement to use "public navigable airspace, in a physically nonintrusive manner" to gather evidence to make an arrest.

By summertime, there may be many more cases like Brossart's—on May 14, the government must begin issuing permits for drone use by law enforcement.

Currently, about 300 law enforcement agencies and research institutions—including the Grand Forks SWAT team—have "temporary licenses" from the FAA to use drones. Currently, drones are most commonly used by Homeland Security along America's borders.

Bill Macki, head of the Grand Forks SWAT team, says Brossart's case was the first and only time they've used a drone to help make an arrest—they tried one other time (to search for an armed, suicidal individual), but gusty weather conditions made navigation impossible.

With a population of less than 70,000, it doesn't make sense for the Grand Forks police department to own a helicopter, but the ability to call in a drone when necessary can provide a similar purpose.

"The terrain we were working with was very large and agricultural—several hundred acres of very flat farmland made it difficult to set up a perimeter to ensure people didn't make it off the property," he says. "I think drones are definitely a useful tool, their effectiveness in rural operations is exceptional, they keep tactical operations as safe as possible."

Macki is confident his team is trained to legally use drones.

"We've had a relationship with Predator operations for three years, we've provided training for them and received training on the basic capabilities of the predator," he says. "We've established a relationship with [Homeland Security]. Through that relationship, we've learned drones' capabilities and when we can or cannot use a drone."


Poster Comment:

Brossart says he "had no clue" they used a drone during the standoff until months after his arrest.

Hopefully none of the 4um members here will ever be that naive.

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#1. To: Buzzard (#0)

I don't have to worry about this because I've invented invisibility.

Also, I have an Iron Man suit and I'll knock those things out of the sky.

"You shall have fun, no matter what you do." -- Turtle

Turtle  posted on  2012-04-10   12:23:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#0)

For anyone interested, the Barrett M82A1 50 cal. has an effective range of over 1,800 metres (5,900 ft) (1.1 miles).

‘Gentlemen, if you’ve ever thought about it, the quality of a man’s life is directly proportionate to his commitment to excellence.’ ~Vince Lombardi

Buzzard  posted on  2012-04-10   12:24:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Buzzard (#2)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-04-10   14:25:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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