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Title: AP: Zimmerman To Be Charged With 2nd Degree Murder
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Published: Apr 11, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-04-11 17:39:52 by tom007
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AP: Zimmerman To Be Charged With 2nd Degree Murder

George Zimmerman will be charged with second-degree murder in the shooting of unarmed Florida teen Trayvon Martin, the Associated Press reports. Both the AP and NBC News report that Zimmerman is in police custody. The charges are expected to be announced at 6 p.m. ET. Reported by David Taintor

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#1. To: tom007 (#0)

The race whores will have year long orgy with this.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-04-11   17:51:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: tom007 (#0) (Edited)

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hondo68  posted on  2012-04-11   18:52:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom, 4 (#1)

IMO, the prosecutor, by charging Zimmerman w/2degree murder, gave the defense a better than 50/50 chance of having the case tossed. The burden of proof will require the State to convince a jury that Zimmerman acted with a depraved mind, *and* that (as per the Castle Doctrine) he didn't feel as though his life was in danger. That is quite a legal hill to climb. Had they went with manslaughter or homicide, their chances of a conviction would have jumped up considerably.

If I lived in FL, I'd be preparing myself for a Rodney King-like response to an acquittal. It appears the fuse is about to be lit.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-04-11   19:13:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Jethro Tull (#3)

IMO, the prosecutor, by charging Zimmerman w/2degree murder, gave the defense a better than 50/50 chance of having the case tossed.

Exactly. A good strategy for a prosecutor between a rock and a hard place.

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Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-04-11   19:21:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Jethro Tull (#3)

If I lived in FL, I'd be preparing myself for a Rodney King-like response to an acquittal. It appears the fuse is about to be lit.

Nothing less than hanging will satisfy blacks and white enablers.

It is going to be a long hot summer. This may light the fuse.

Perfect excuse for martial law when the cities begin to burn.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-04-11   19:29:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jethro Tull (#3)

Had a case here about two years ago where a liquor store guy knew the two black men in his store shoplifted from him before, they did so again, ran, he chased with arms, put a shot into the car they were in hit one in the jaw, bullet continued into buddies leg (couldn't have done too much damage)and he was in jail for about three days or so, then released.

Big to do in the paper, he seemed to be in big trouble - I personally guessed he would get three years, one served or something like that.

Well as it turned out the kids were gang members, and it was all quietly dropped.

I was quite surprised. I thought the owner was cooked.

And the disposition was never, AFAIK, recorded in the paper.

Am sure it cost the owner at least 10,000 in legal fees.

And maybe be a $25000 donation to the kids jaw reconstruction.

Beats the heck out of a couple of years in jail.

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tom007  posted on  2012-04-11   19:32:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#4)

Yep, she's trying to play tough, but she's simply dopey.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-04-11   19:36:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#7)

"A second degree murder prosecuted as a first degree felony may result in a sentence of imprisonment for a term lasting up to thirty years. Florida laws also permit the state to request a term of life imprisonment. If the defendant has a prior record of felony convictions or has committed other homicides, the state may request an increased sentence of imprisonment for life."

Cynicom  posted on  2012-04-11   19:38:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: tom007 (#6)

I agree, I think he got ass lucky having the case break in his favor like it did.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-04-11   19:38:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom, 4um (#5)

Perfect excuse for martial law when the cities begin to burn.

I recall the Newark, NJ riots in the early 60s when the troops rolled in. They rolled in Watts and NYC too back then. It's not a matter of if, but when. Get your food and lead stored away in a proper manner, forthwith.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-04-11   19:42:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: tom007 (#0)

this is great news. that paranoid busibody psycho gives normal gunowners everywhere a bad name.

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Artisan  posted on  2012-04-11   19:48:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: tom007 (#0)

special prosecutor Angela Corey

A filthy cunt trying to make a name for herself in order to further her political career.

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F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-04-11   19:52:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jethro Tull (#9)

I agree, I think he got ass lucky having the case break in his favor like it did.

Thanks for the reply - you have much more color than I do on these matters.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith

tom007  posted on  2012-04-11   19:56:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: F.A. Hayek Fan, bump 12 (#12)

Political whore.....that charge is at least one to two notches over the top, and you can't tell me she doesn't know the ramifications of an acquittal. But that's most likely what she was told to do. If anyone thinks the WH wasn't consulted before this charge was leveled is living in Disneyland.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-04-11   19:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: tom007, Jethro Tull (#13)

Zimmerman walks, this country will burn coast to coast.

White Americans will make sure he goes to prison.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-04-11   19:59:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom (#15)

Zimmerman walks, this country will burn coast to coast.

I'm betting he walks. Had she filed manslaughter instead, I'd bet on a conviction. A typical over the top law enforcer having her strings pulled by the WH & the racial hucksters.

Arm up, load up.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-04-11   20:03:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jethro Tull (#14)

Political whore.....that charge is at least one to two notches over the top, and you can't tell me she doesn't know the ramifications of an acquittal. But that's most likely what she was told to do. If anyone thinks the WH wasn't consulted before this charge was leveled is living in Disneyland.

Maybe, but she's a Republican and she was assigned the case directly by the Governor of Florida, also a Republican.

Gotta love those small government, gun-supporting Republicans. /sarcasm

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F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-04-11   20:03:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Jethro Tull (#16)

I'm betting he walks. Had she filed manslaughter instead, I'd bet on a conviction. A typical over the top law enforcer having her strings pulled by the WH & the racial hucksters.

Arm up, load up.

They may be hoping he cops a plea.

Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

Jesus said, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Evangelical Fundinuts say, "kill them all who will not bow down to the Zionist Jew." - F.A. Hayek Fan

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-04-11   20:07:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Jethro Tull (#16)

I'm betting he walks

Zimmerman is a dead man walking, regardless of outcome.

My odds say he goes to prison and it will be white America that sends him there.

On the final day, when the jury goes out, I would vacate any city with a large black population.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-04-11   20:14:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Cynicom (#15)

Zimmerman walks, this country will burn coast to coast.

Let it. It'd be an improvment.

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Esso  posted on  2012-04-11   20:16:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Esso (#20)

Just below the surface, this country is simmering with racial unrest that is looking for a "cause" to justify burning and looting. Happened before and the stage is set for a major conflagration.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-04-11   20:23:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#18)

They may be hoping he cops a plea.

Could be, but given the high profile of this thing, I'm not sure the Drivers of this mess would be satisfied with anything less than a few decades. If I were Zimmerman, I'd roll the dice if that was their "deal."

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-04-11   20:33:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Jethro Tull (#22)

This deal has been politicized to such an extent that a fair trial is not likely.

Another thing that seems strange to me is that the DA didn't get an indictment and Zimmerman was charged by information.

Unless Zimmerman's lawyer sells him out he'll walk.

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noone222  posted on  2012-04-11   20:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: noone222 (#23)

Six to four he goes to prison.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-04-11   20:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Jethro Tull (#22)

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Cynicom  posted on  2012-04-11   20:45:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Cynicom (#21)

Just below the surface, this country is simmering with racial unrest

There was a guest on Laura Ingraham's radio show today that had all of the relevant crime stats ... and I think a lot of white people are sick of pretending that the Blacks and Mexicans are their social equal.

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noone222  posted on  2012-04-11   20:46:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: noone222 (#26)

Glad I do not live in a large city, especially for the next seven months.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-04-11   20:51:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Jethro Tull (#22)

If I were Zimmerman, I'd roll the dice if that was their "deal."

Well I don't think his deal would be 2nd degree murder. I think it would be something less. However, I agree with you, I would roll the dice.

Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

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F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-04-11   20:52:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#21)

Just below the surface, this country is simmering with racial unrest that is looking for a "cause" to justify burning and looting. Happened before and the stage is set for a major conflagration.

Yeah, who will ever forget the riot in Los Angeles over the Rodney King incident? I will never forget one nigger carrying a tv out of a store that he had looted and yelling "This is for Rotney!" I bet he never knew "Rotney" any more than I did but it was a dandy excuse to loot and pillage.

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-04-11   20:58:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: noone222, 4 (#26)

and I think a lot of white people are sick of pretending that the Blacks and Mexicans are their social equal.

from your mouth, to....

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-04-11   21:01:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Jethro Tull, Cynicom, 4 (#3)

IMO, the prosecutor, by charging Zimmerman w/2degree murder, gave the defense a better than 50/50 chance of having the case tossed.

Which may explain why that is the charge. Politically, the case has already been tried in the Press and the Persecutor was no doubt feeling the political heat as well as the cacophony of the "Race Baiting Poverty Pimps™" Jackscoon and his trusty sidekick Al.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2012-04-11   21:04:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom (#27)

Glad I do not live in a large city, especially for the next seven months.

All my neighbors are either white or Messicans. The Mexicans are not too tolerant of blacks - less so that Stormfront.

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"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-04-11   21:07:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Original_Intent (#31)

Agree. I understand this prosecutor is know as being "aggressive" and once charged a 13 y/o with 1st degree murder. I have no idea if that is true, nor do I have information about the outcome, but I suspect we have a potential Casey Anthony matter here. A classic case of an over charge with a potential devastating outcome.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-04-11   21:15:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Jethro Tull (#33)

They, the establishment, want a head on a pike to quiet the unrest in ignorant black community who follow the FBI's trained provocateur Jackscoon. It is interesting to watch though. The black community has been so driven away from amity that robbery in broad daylight is tolerated and applauded in Baltimore when it is a white victim but if anyone should strike back against a black thug the trained response is "it all be whitey's fault". Zimmerman has not been tried yet and all of the facts are not in evidence but Jackscoon and company are calling for his head because he is not black.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-04-11   21:45:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Original_Intent (#34)

They, the establishment, want a head on a pike to quiet the unrest in ignorant black community who follow the FBI's trained provocateur Jackscoon. It is interesting to watch though. The black community has been so driven away from amity that robbery in broad daylight is tolerated and applauded in Baltimore when it is a white victim but if anyone should strike back against a black thug the trained response is "it all be whitey's fault". Zimmerman has not been tried yet and all of the facts are not in evidence but Jackscoon and company are calling for his head because he is not black.

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Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-04-11   21:59:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Original_Intent, Jethro Tull, *Post Of The Day* (#34)

Let's go post of the day.


Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?

farmfriend  posted on  2012-04-11   22:00:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: farmfriend (#36)

Thank ya most kindly ma'am.

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"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

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#38. To: Jethro Tull (#35)

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-04-11   22:10:48 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Cynicom (#27)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-04-11   22:22:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Cynicom (#15)

Zimmerman walks, this country will burn coast to coast.

White Americans will make sure he goes to prison.

We've got a dead monkey and a hispanic jew in the dock.

It's not as if America needs any of them. Throw him under the bus.

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Buzzard  posted on  2012-04-11   22:50:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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