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Title: "Never Worked a Day in Her Life"
Source: Vox Populi
URL Source: http://voxday.blogspot.com/
Published: Apr 13, 2012
Author: Vox Day
Post Date: 2012-04-13 15:02:47 by Turtle
Keywords: None
Views: 498
Comments: 19

James Taranto correctly excoriates the feminist philosophy that served as the foundation for Hilary Rosen's epically stupid attack on Ann Romney:

In truth, anti-momism was the very heart of "The Feminine Mystique." Friedan's argument was that motherhood and homemaking were soul-deadening occupations and that pursuing a professional career was the way for a woman to "become complete." She agreed with the midcentury misogynists that a stay-at-home mother was, in Friedan's words, "castrative to her husband and sons." But she emphasized that women were "fellow victims."

The book might as well have been titled "Why Can't a Woman Be More Like a Man?" Today, of course, she can, and because feminism has entailed a diminution of male responsibility, she often has no choice. As we've noted, an increasing number of women are choosing domestic life, finding it a liberating alternative to working for a boss. But to do so requires a husband with considerable means.

Fifty years ago, Ann Romney's life would have made her just a regular woman. Today, she is a countercultural figure--someone who lives in a way that the dominant culture regards with a hostile disdain. And she has chosen to live that way, which is why Hilary Rosen, as an intellectual heiress to Betty Friedan, regards her as a villain rather than a victim.

Taranto also points out something that I consider vital. He effectively draws the distinction between Romney's accomplishments and Rosen's: "Raising children is a lot of work, and we'd venture to say it's more valuable work than, say, lobbying for the music industry or helping BP with its crisis communications, to name two of the highlights of Rosen's career."

I'll go even farther. Bearing and raising children is far more important than anything any working woman has ever done in her professional career in the entire history of Mankind. The silly, short-sighted, white trash teen mothers on MTV are contributing more to the human race than the most intelligent, highly educated, and accomplished women have ever done for it.

If a woman wants to devote sixteen or more years of her life to "education", then follow it up by sitting in a cubicle and transferring information from point A to point B, that's her legal right. But it's not doing anything for the human race, and indeed, considering the economically negative effects of the government agencies and human resources departments where women are inordinately employed, economic irrelevance is probably the best case scenario.

Linda Hirschman once claimed: "“The tasks of housekeeping and child-rearing are not worthy of the full time and talents of intelligent and educated human beings.”

But she had it wrong. She had it completely backwards, because there is absolutely nothing a woman, however educated and intelligent, can do that is more important or more vital than raising children. And while home-making not the physical equivalent of working in a coal mine, it is at least as laborious as most white collar employment. I have no affection for Captain Underoos and if he wins in November I think he will probably be even worse than Obama has been. But it is as evil as it is stupid to attack his wife for doing the one thing that the human race absolutely requires for its survival.

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#1. To: farmfriend, abraxas, christine, purplerose (#0)

Back in the kitchen and nursery with all of you!

Back to the masturbatorium with you, nerdling!

Turtle  posted on  2012-04-13   15:03:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Turtle (#1)

My mom never worked in her life either all the while we kids were growing up. She was a homemaker. She did not want to work outside the family. Supposedly, the father was making a decent income. But we kids did not believe this because of the poor living conditions and that we were always hungry. In my experiencing such poverty growing up, I made the determination by the time I was eight, that no way would I ever bring children into this world without a decent home and enough food. It was then, that I came to the logical thinking that it took money to raise a family because it is like a business. Having children is equivalent to charging up your credit card knowing that you have financial backing to cover those expenses. If you don't have the money, don't use the card. If you don't make good money, keep your stick in your pants and don't start something you'll later regret.

In today's material world, it requires two income earnings to be able to raise a family. When I was in my twenties, the last thing I was ever thinking about was starting a family. I couldn't afford to raise a family. Furthermore, I refused then, and even now, to raise a family on income below $90,000. I did not want to be raising a family on foodstamps or in poverty and living in some trailer or apartment. I wanted a home. I know all too well about poverty because my brother and I lived it most of our youth. Some call it pussy control but I feel this is really taking responsibility for my actions. If I'm going to start a family, it no longer is about me anymore. It's about the children and thinking about their future. Cause outside the nuclear family, nobody gives a damn about your kids. Society would just as much use your children as cheap labor if they could get away with it. And sadly I must say, society does get away with it because the parents have don't give a damn about their children's future.

purplerose  posted on  2012-04-13   15:37:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: purplerose (#2)

In today's material world, it requires two income earnings to be able to raise a family.

Then the children have to be farmed out to be raised by (of course low-paid, and generally foreign) strangers.

There is a very good reason all men should be highly-paid, no matter what job they do.

Feminism is leftist, therefore evil, therefore it will collapse -- after destroying lots of people's lives.

Back to the masturbatorium with you, nerdling!

Turtle  posted on  2012-04-13   15:41:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Turtle (#0)

Presidential Election Suggests Climax of Feminism is at Hand

by W.F. Price on April 12, 2012

Following the Rush Limbaugh/Sandra Fluke controversy, the remarks about Augusta, the debate over free birth control and other appeals to American women from Democrats, prominent feminist and corporate shark Hilary Rosen waded into the debate by saying that Mitt Romney’s wife had no right to talk about the economy because she’d “never worked a day in her life.” Lots of people took offense because, obviously, a mother of five has a lot of work to do, whether or not it results in a corporate paycheck.

What’s interesting is that the debate is between two baby boomer females, both of whom chose different paths in life, and underscores the profound schism that has emerged between one America and the other. Ann Romney, mother of five, has chosen one path, and Hilary Rosen, although she did manage to conceive two children with donor sperm (she’s a lesbian), another.

What we are seeing here is the climax of second wave feminism, which really got going in the 1960s, as its adherents reach the peak of their political and economic power. However, despite the heights attained by people like Hilary Rosen, not all American women jumped on the bandwagon, and now the two versions of American womanhood are squaring off over the presidency. You could say it’s essentially feminists vs. wives, and it’s pretty clear which ones will line up with which candidate.

In the long run, the wives will win, because they have a lot more children in general, but for now the feminists probably have a majority due to the large numbers of single mothers and divorced women, which is why Obama will likely take the women’s vote. But he isn’t going to take all of it.

I’m not sure how much longer feminism will be such a powerful force in national politics, but I suspect this election, and perhaps the next one, will be the peak. After that, there will be a decline that, while not entirely noticeable at first, should really become apparent by some time in the next decade. Younger feminists simply don’t have the passion or cohesion to repeat the successes of the Hilary Rosens and Hillary Clintons of the world. As far as I can tell, to them feminism means little more than getting a free lunch. At least, they don’t articulate much else, and if they can get a free lunch by getting married and having children a lot of them will do so and quickly forget all about the gender studies classes they took in college. Furthermore, as I’ve stressed recently, a lot more young white Americans will be the children of the Mitt and Ann Romneys of the US (not to mention Rick Santorums) than they will of the Hilary Rosens. Feminism is simply going to be alien and weird to an increasing proportion of the population. As for minorities, they never really bought into it anyway; feminism has been pretty much a white woman’s game from the beginning.

So, men, I think we should sit back, grab a bag of popcorn, and watch how it all goes down. We are witnessing the culmination of a very strange era in Western history, and it’s going to be history fairly soon. There’s no telling exactly what will come next, but I’m fairly certain that the feminism that has come to define this election cycle will begin to ebb away as something new emerges.

Some day when I’m old and gray, I expect to see people snicker and joke about the feminism that was such a powerful force in the late 20th and early 21st centuries. Our current era will be seen by young adults and children as just as alien as the prewar era is to us today. And no, there will never be a matriarchal regime; that’s against human nature and unprecedented in human history. People simply haven’t changed that much, and due to birth control, abortion and other factors that limit feminist fertility the demographic momentum is pushing in the other direction now, and has been for over a generation.

In the meanwhile, we men should take care of ourselves, our families and our brethren. Just hang in there, weather this storm, and try to keep your mental and physical health. When we get through to the other side, we’ll be able to breathe a lot easier than we have in a long, long time.

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Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2012-04-13   16:09:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Lysander_Spooner, purplerose (#4)

90% of women shouldn't be allowed to vote.

I've always been mystified by supposedly intelligent women who gape when I point out the obvious: if you want to work, how are you going to combine career and children? You can't, unless you give your children to be raised by strangers. And, of course, you don't want to pay them $50,000 a year to do it.

So what you want, instead, is lowly-paid people, always female, and usually Third World, because they are the cheapest.

And if you expect to take time off of work for mommy-leave, you're demanding your coworkers cover for you, for free. And so on and so on.

Of course, it doesn't work. For these reasons, and others, leftism-feminism is going to collapse. And the sooner it does, the better.

Back to the masturbatorium with you, nerdling!

Turtle  posted on  2012-04-13   16:16:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: purplerose (#2)

In today's material world, it requires two income earnings to be able to raise a family.

Purplerose,

Sorry but you are wrong. What part of the country did you live in when you made this assessment? Plenty of families do it all over the country for less than 90k/year. Two incomes don't solve any problems, because the money the wife makes is consumed by the extra expenses that are necessitated when the wife works. Not to mention the probability of affairs with work colleagues rises as well. Farming the kids out to daycare or other care provider, your clothes, gas, taxes, insurance etc combine to make the wife working essentially meaningless. You can raise kids off of 90k/year or less, you just can't live an extravagant lifestyle in the process.

Which is more important, the car you drive, or happy, healthy kids who get the love, affection and attention they need?

echo5sierra  posted on  2012-04-13   16:52:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: echo5sierra (#6) (Edited)

Which is more important, the car you drive, or happy, healthy kids who get the love, affection and attention they need?

Love attention and affection are of the emotional needs. These things are fine and all but they don't pay the bills. That is a fact. I think in logical practical sense.

What I consider of higher priority is that the children I bring in I am able to provide for them a very good life. I want for them to live in a safe neighborhood and be able to provide good food for them. But most of all I care about their future which is why from the time of conception, I am already building on their future such as creating a trust fund for their college tuition. If you look at most of the jobs that are out there for young kids these days, its barely enough to get them by. I see it everyday listening to their struggles and I know of their struggles trying to juggle college and three jobs! It's the reason why were I to become a parent that I would want for my children to have an easier life. And I would also want them to go to college so that they can find jobs that pay good salaries. I want them to have the American Dream. That's what it's all about.

purplerose  posted on  2012-04-14   13:15:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: purplerose (#7) (Edited)

These things are fine and all but they don't pay the bills.

I will raise my kids in a trailer in the Ozarks, and homeschool them, before I send them to public schools. College these days is worthless and when people graduate they owe so much money they can never pay it back. And the debt cannot be discharged though bankruptcy.

"Good salaries" don't exist anymore. Wages stopped going up in 1973, courtesy of our government. Had they continued to rise as they should have the average wage would be about $90,000 a year.

A guy I know worked for Kraft is Chicago for 18 years before his job was eliminated. He was making about $75,000 a year. He was working 12 hours a day. He said when his job was eliminated it felt like a ton lifted from his shoulders.

There are more things to life than slaving your life away.

Back to the masturbatorium with you, nerdling!

Turtle  posted on  2012-04-14   13:26:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Lysander_Spooner (#4)

and Hilary Rosen, although she did manage to conceive two children with donor sperm (she’s a lesbian), another.

Gosh I am so shocked that a man hating lesbian would find normal motherhood objectionable. /sarcasm

"Feminism is the theory, lesbianism is the practice." -- Ti-Grace Atkinson

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-04-14   13:27:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: purplerose (#2)

Furthermore, I refused then, and even now, to raise a family on income below $90,000.

I am glad most people do not think like you, very glad. God said be fruitful and multiply, he didn't say wait until you have tons of money to spoil your kids rotten before you have them. Spoiled kids are a menace to society, they mostly contribute nothing and are part of the problem, not the solution.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-04-14   13:39:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: RickyJ, purplerose (#10)

Spoiled kids are a menace to society, they mostly contribute nothing and are part of the problem, not the solution.

The child hates the parent who gives it everything.

Back to the masturbatorium with you, nerdling!

Turtle  posted on  2012-04-14   13:42:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: RickyJ, purplerose, 4 (#10)

God said be fruitful and multiply...

NB: He said that when there were like 25 people on earth.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2012-04-14   13:51:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Lod (#12)

NB: He said that when there were like 25 people on earth.

I thought it was two.

Snicker.

Back to the masturbatorium with you, nerdling!

Turtle  posted on  2012-04-14   13:55:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Turtle (#13)

You're right - only the two were told that.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2012-04-14   14:02:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: RickyJ (#10)

I am glad most people do not think like you, very glad. God said be fruitful and multiply, he didn't say wait until you have tons of money to spoil your kids rotten before you have them. Spoiled kids are a menace to society, they mostly contribute nothing and are part of the problem, not the solution.

I learned this way of thinking by observing my favorite aunt. She was the one who taught me about what raising a family is about. She married very well and made certain her children were well-provided. She even made certain they went to college on the money that she and her husband saved. Those children grew up to be very well-educated adults. One went to med school and the other went to business school in Chicago. Neither of those children were snot-nosed spoiled brats. In fact, they were very sweet and well-mannered and respectable in the public presence.

purplerose  posted on  2012-04-14   14:16:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: purplerose (#15)

. I learned this way of thinking by observing my favorite aunt. She was the one who taught me about what raising a family is about. She married very well and made certain her children were well-provided. She even made certain they went to college on the money that she and her husband saved. Those children grew up to be very well-educated adults. One went to med school and the other went to business school in Chicago. Neither of those children were snot-nosed spoiled brats. In fact, they were very sweet and well-mannered and respectable in the public presence.

Fallacy of Composition.

“Teach a child their rights and it breeds rebellion, teach a child their responsibility an it breeds righteousness.”

Turtle  posted on  2012-04-14   14:18:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Original_Intent, turtle (#9)

Gosh I am so shocked that a man hating lesbian would find normal motherhood objectionable. /sarcasm

"Feminism is the theory, lesbianism is the practice." -- Ti-Grace Atkinson

Teh troooph !!!

I dated one of them feminists once, always squawking about 'eeeekqwualiteee', and then asking me why I don't buy her things....lol

I replied: "Why dear, because I'm not a pimp and you're not a hooker", shut her trap for awhile...lol.

Of course, I earned 5 times her income and had double her IQ, but she insisted she was to be in charge, come to think of it I think I did hear she is lapping up the grrrrrrrl gash, ewwwwwwwww :)

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2012-04-16   17:29:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Lysander_Spooner (#17)

I dated one of them feminists once, always squawking about 'eeeekqwualiteee', and then asking me why I don't buy her things....lol

I replied: "Why dear, because I'm not a pimp and you're not a hooker", shut her trap for awhile...lol.

There you have it - feminism, in many cases, is simply an attempt to have it both ways - and in the case of the man hating lesbians it's a way to get even for every imagined slight.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-04-17   4:24:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Original_Intent (#18)

attempt to have it both ways

They want the advantages of both men and women and none of the responsibilities.

“Teach a child their rights and it breeds rebellion, teach a child their responsibility an it breeds righteousness.”

Turtle  posted on  2012-04-17   12:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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