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Title: Houston Homeless Man Killed for a Dollar
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URL Source: http://www.chron.com/news/houston-t ... homeless-man-for-1-3489480.php
Published: Apr 18, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-04-18 11:15:40 by Lod
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#1. To: Lod, 4 (#0)

Depressing. I'm thinking Houston isn't a place I'd want to visit, eh?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-04-18   11:54:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Jethro Tull, Lod (#1)

Equally depressing:

Man collecting cans shot at south city bus stop

Dakmar  posted on  2012-04-18   17:04:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Dakmar, Lod, 4 (#2)

I do believe we're seeing the death throes of a once great nation.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-04-18   17:10:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#3)

I do believe we're seeing the death throes of a once great nation.

We are in the soup in a big way financially, and we may go down for that reason, rather sooner than later. But as far as violent crime goes, most sources tell us that the crime rate is actually going down, so it's good to keep things in perspective.

I've lived in Houston for ten years and haven't seen any mayhem or crime any place that I've been in this city. That's in contrast to the years I spent in DC where I had bars on my doors and windows and was burgled once and saw two beatings in front of my house.

The bent and the twisted have always been with us - monsters like the trio that victimized this poor fellow just trying to eke out an existence on his bike with a bag full of cans.

The pundit punks that write for the mainstream press are pulling out their hair trying to explain the reduction in the violent crime rate during a recession. It just goes against the standard class warfare analysis that they're accustomed to. They say that policing is better and that we are locking more people up, but they are skeered to touch the proliferation of carry laws and the explosion in gun sales. Gun-unfriendly cities like NYC and Philly are bucking the downward trend of violent crime while crimes like assaults, rapes and murders are declining in most of the rest of the nation.

The relationship between the number of law abiding gun owners and slowing crime is has become so obvious that the light has come on even among the stubbornly anti-gun libs. Come to find that DKOS has its own pro-2nd Amendment forum.

Right to Keep and Bear Arms is a DKos group of second amendment supporters who also have progressive and liberal values. We don't think that being a liberal means one has to be anti-gun. Some of us are extreme in our second amendment views (no licensing, no restrictions on small arms) and some of us are more moderate (licensing, restrictions on small arms.) Moderate or extreme or somewhere in between, we hold one common belief: more gun control equals lost elections. We don't want a repeat of 1994. We are an inclusive group: if you see the Second Amendment as safeguarding our right to keep and bear arms individually, then come join us in our conversation. If you are against the right to keep and bear arms, come join our conversation. We look forward to seeing you, as long as you engage in a civil discussion. If you're just here to disrupt or troll, expect to get a Do Not Respond (DNR) comment and then be ignored. Insults, lies, and willful ignorance will be dealt with by normal community moderation. Disagreement by itself is not considered trolling.
What'll they think of next?

randge  posted on  2012-04-18   17:58:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: randge (#11)

most sources tell us that the crime rate is actually going down, so it's good to keep things in perspective.

I'm not asserting this as fact, but I've read credible (I love writing my own propaganda, it's everyone elses I can't stand) news magazine articles that suggest the declining crime rate is proportional with the rate of incarceration.

Not that I believe that, of course. I used to think social engineering in general was the problem, then I remember it can be used for good. Haha, who gets to define good?

That's why I keep deferring to those rusty old fallbacks, right to life, liberty, and property.

Altruism is a wonderful quality, but it ceases to exist at gunpoint.

Dakmar  posted on  2012-04-18   18:16:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Dakmar (#13)

We do have one of the highest rates of incarceration in the "civilized" world, but even our numbers in this regard are falling at the same time that crime figures here are on the way down.

Nationally, the drop in violent crime not only calls into question the theory that crime rates are closely correlated with economic hardship, but another argument as well, said Frank E. Zimring, a law professor at the University of California, Berkeley.

As the percentage of people behind bars has decreased in the past few years, violent crime rates have fallen as well. For those who believed that higher incarceration rates inevitably led to less crime, “this would also be the last time to expect a crime decline,” he said.

“The last three years have been a contrarian’s delight — just when you expect the bananas to hit the fan,” said Mr. Zimring, a visiting law professor at New York University and the author of a coming book on the decline in the city’s crime rate.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/24/us/24crime.html

randge  posted on  2012-04-18   18:22:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#15. To: randge (#14)

“The last three years have been a contrarian’s delight — just when you expect the bananas to hit the fan,”

Can't wait for that quote to show up on MSNBABC.

Dakmar  posted on  2012-04-18 18:27:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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