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Title: CPS seizes children "not in carseats" after concerned motorist calls police
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Published: Apr 20, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-04-20 06:50:57 by Artisan
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Views: 400
Comments: 30

local news reported that a concerned motorist called 911 after seeing a truck with 2 kids that werent buckled into carseats. The caller gave the plate # & police along with social workers went to the house. Parents were charged with child endangerment.


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when i was a kid. they didnt even have carseats. we used to ride in the back of my dad's pickup truck after baseball games, riding to the A&W root beer. Our dogs often accompanied, (off leash :) Today, I suppose we'd all have been imprisoned.

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#1. To: Artisan (#0)

Good Lord. There is nothing left here worth saving.

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Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
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Esso  posted on  2012-04-20   7:22:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Esso, Artisan, 4 (#1)

Correct.

There is nothing left here worth saving.

So, why wasn't the entire family executed on the spot?

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Lod  posted on  2012-04-20   7:40:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Artisan (#0) (Edited)

The caller gave the plate # & police along with social workers went to the house. Parents were charged with child endangerment.

Were they charged because of the lack of car seats, or because of conditions in the house?

I bet there are some missing elements to this story.

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PSUSA2  posted on  2012-04-20   7:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Esso, 4 (#1)

I suppose you want OUR chldren' DEAD????

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-04-20   7:51:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Artisan, 4um (#0)

when i was a kid. they didnt even have carseats. we used to ride in the back of my dad's pickup truck after baseball games, riding to the A&W root beer. Our dogs often accompanied, (off leash :) Today, I suppose we'd all have been imprisoned

That was a different America you're describing. IIRC, and this not an effort to ignore drunk driving, the rules of the road began changing radically with the advent of MADD. The next time you get stuck in police officer "safety check" road block, thank the good people from MADD for your 45 minute delay.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-04-20   8:05:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jethro Tull (#5)

Ive read about how crazy MADD is & how they kept pushing for lower alcohol levels. Also, that DUI checkpoints have been upheld in high court, but that the constitutionality of driver license checkpoints have not yet been addressed. Do you know?

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-04-20   8:35:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: PSUSA2 (#3)

i know a woman who spanked her kid in a restaurant & cps was at her house by the time she got home. someone wrote her plate & snitched even though spanking is not illegal. People are insane evil busibodies these days.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-04-20   8:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Artisan (#0)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-04-20   8:51:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Artisan (#0)

when i was a kid. they didnt even have carseats. we used to ride in the back of my dad's pickup truck after baseball games, riding to the A&W root beer. Our dogs often accompanied, (off leash :) Today, I suppose we'd all have been imprisoned.

My folks, me, my brother and four sisters would all pile into our PINTO to go camping.

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Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-04-20   10:32:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Artisan (#7)

People are insane evil busibodies these days.

They do have their own lives in perfect order. /s

But I think some details are missing in the OP. I'm wondering if it was the conditions in the house that led to the CPS involvement.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-04-20   10:41:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#9)

i'm sure it was a lot of fun! :-)

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-04-20   15:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: PSUSA2 (#10)

people should not even allow "cps" into their homes, ever. cps should not exist because there is no due process whatsoever. they are literally, commie pedophiles. Ugh. If someone committed a crime such as actually assaulting a child, there are and alwasy were courts set up to handle criminal offenses. They did not need to make up new courts with special rules. in los angeles, when they built the 'childrens court' in the 80s, 'child abuse cases' skyrocketed more than double, the first year the monstrosity of the court was built. this is according to their own admission.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-04-20   15:47:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Artisan (#12)

No argument from me. THeir abuses have been documented.

But, in this case, more info is needed. Either there was some severe abuse by CPS / LEO, or they found something in the house. My guess is they found something unrelated to the child seats. But I could be wrong.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-04-20   16:08:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: PSUSA2, farmfriend, original_intent, hounddawg, all (#13)

what do you think about a person who would be driving down the street and immediately call 911 because someone else has kids in their vehicle that arent buckled into govt approved car seats?

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-04-20   16:15:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Artisan (#14) (Edited)

You already pegged them. They're pricks. But they don't have official power. It's the official pricks one has to worry about.

Again, more info is needed on this SPECIFIC story. You seem to have made a direct link between car seats and CPS taking someones kids ( I assume they took them, if the parents were charged with endangerment). Has that been determined? Or did they find something else?

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-04-20   16:30:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Artisan (#0)

I used to ride in the back of my dad's pick-up truck, too. And I loved it.

“Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness.”

Turtle  posted on  2012-04-20   16:43:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: PSUSA2, Artisan (#3)

The caller gave the plate # & police along with social workers went to the house. Parents were charged with child endangerment.

Were they charged because of the lack of car seats, or because of conditions in the house?

I bet there are some missing elements to this story.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2012-04-20   18:58:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Original_Intent (#17)

Xenu is getting very angry with you...

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-04-20   19:35:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Artisan, PSUSA2, original_intent, hounddawg (#14)

what do you think about a person who would be driving down the street and immediately call 911 because someone else has kids in their vehicle that arent buckled into govt approved car seats?

I think they should mind their own business.


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farmfriend  posted on  2012-04-20   21:32:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: PSUSA2 (#18)

ATTABOY! Evade the point.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2012-04-20   23:06:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: farmfriend, psusa2, original_intent, titorite (#19)

I think they should mind their own business.

Exactly! Any normal person would.Now a confession. The actual caller in the case: George zimmerman,. But in his case he called 911 & followed the truck but it got away & he reported only a partial plate#.Absolute unhinged kook, i stick by my bias. :-)

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-04-21   6:05:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Artisan (#0) (Edited)

I was told that children aren't allowed in the front seat even at five years old because of the possibility of being hit by an airbag. Not only do they want children to ride in the back seat, I guess until they are adults, they want them to sit in car seats until they are almost halfway to adulthood -- 8 years old. Some children are tall and some weigh over 100 lbs at 8 years old. The control freaks are nuts.

Edited for spelling.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-04-21   7:39:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Artisan (#21)

Being sneaky, huh? lol

You're still not providing the facts of what happened. What did CPS/LEO find? I keep asking that but you refuse to say. Possibly because YOU DON'T KNOW??? If you don't know, then say so.

Zimmerman might be a dick. But that does not make him guilty of being anything but a dick.

I knew a person like that. I worked for a time as a rent-a-cop, at a place near near some projects. He would patrol their parking lots. He was a dumbass.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-04-21   7:58:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Original_Intent (#20)

ATTABOY! Evade the point.

I'm just being a SP.

Feel free to run ethics on me. It will only make you quite enturbulated, but pleas don't let that stop you. It's funny!

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-04-21   8:05:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: PSUSA2 (#23)

I didnt say previously b/c that wouldve given away the punchline. the kook called 911, gave only a partial plate & that is all. The point being i wanted everyone to decry the low-grade perv society and then praise the same guy 5 minutes later. LoL! Ugh.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-04-21   8:16:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: PSUSA2 (#24)

as far as the seatbelt laws, all states even NH which has no adult seatbelt law, mandate special tules for kids. and its a very hefty fine & maybe even a misdemeanor. one hollywood floozie got in trouble for this & cps was called in.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-04-21   8:20:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Artisan (#25)

Waiting for facts to come out is not the same as praising him. The facts that have come out are quite different from the 'facts' presented by sharpton and jackson.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-04-21   8:27:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: All (#22) (Edited)

I'd like to add, too, that forcing children to ride [elevated] in car seats until 8 years old, regardless of height or weight, can put them in more danger of being hit by flying glass and debris in an accident [ -- unable to move down to the seat or to the floor to try and protect themselves]. Again, the control freaks are nuts.

Edited to include bracketed inserts.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-04-21   10:54:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Artisan (#0)

Parents were charged with child endangerment.

On nothing more than a phone call? Where's the evidence? Where's the proof?

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F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-04-21   11:02:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Artisan (#0)

when i was a kid. they didnt even have carseats.

when i was a kid. they didnt even have carseats or CPS.

Much of what occurs to families today happens because people are ignorant of the law.

If the Sheriff can't invade your home without a warrant issued upon probable cause, what makes anyone think some appointed asshat from CPS can do it ?

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noone222  posted on  2012-04-21   11:21:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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