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Title: You'll Feel Differently About George Zimmerman And The Trayvon Martin Shooting After You Read This
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.businessinsider.com/geor ... trayvon-martin-shooting-2012-4
Published: Apr 26, 2012
Author: Henry Blodget
Post Date: 2012-04-26 09:15:33 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 522
Comments: 53

Reuters' Chris Francescani has written a detailed article that paints a far more sympathetic portrait of George Zimmerman than most media coverage to date.

Francescani visited the Twin Lakes neighborhood in Sanford, Florida where Zimmerman shot unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin in February.

He talked to many residents of the neighborhood, who provided details about Zimmerman and a recent crime spree that had plagued the neighborhood in the months before the shooting.

The George Zimmerman that Francescani describes is quite different from the "delusional racist vigilante" that many have made him out to be.

The background information doesn't make what happened any less tragic, but it does provide more color about Zimmerman's behavior.

Here are some of the details that Francescani reports:

Zimmerman grew up in a mixed-race household

He was an altar boy at his Caltholic church from age 7-17 He is bilingual

After he finished high school, he studied for and got an insurance license

In 2004, Zimmerman and a black friend opened an Allstate insurance office (which soon failed)

Zimmerman's 2005 arrest for "resisting arrest, violence, and battery of an officer" occurred after he shoved an under-cover alcohol control agent at a bar when the agent was trying to arrest an underage friend of his

Zimmerman married his wife, Shellie, in 2007. They rented a house in Twin Lakes. Twin Lakes is about 50% white, 20% Hispanic, and 20% black.

In 2009, Zimmerman enrolled in Seminole State College

In the fall of 2009, a pit bull broke free twice and once cornered Shellie in the Zimmermans' yard. George Zimmerman asked a police officer whether he should buy pepper spray. The cop told him pepper spray wasn't fast enough and recommended that he get a gun.

By the summer of 2011, Twin Lakes "was experiencing a rash of burglaries and break-ins." In several of the cases, witnesses said the robbers were young black men

In July 2011, a black teenager stole a bicycle off the Zimmermans' porch

In August of 2011, a neighbor of the Zimmermans, Olivia Bertalan, was home during the day when two young black men entered her house. She hid in a room upstairs and called the police. When the police arrived, the two men, who had been trying to take a TV, fled. One of them ran through the Zimmermans' yard. After the break-in, George Zimmerman stopped by the Bertalans and gave Olivia a card with his name and number on it. He told her to visit his wife Shellie if she felt unsafe. The police recommended that Bertalan get a dog. She moved away instead. Zimmerman got a second dog--a Rottweiler.

In September, several concerned residents of the neighborhood, including Zimmerman, asked the neighborhood association to create a neighborhood watch. Zimmerman was asked to run it.

In the next month, two more houses in the neighborhood were robbed. A community newsletter reminded residents to report any crimes to the police and then call "George Zimmerman, our captain."

On February 2, 2012, Zimmerman spotted a young black man looking into the windows of a neighbor's empty house. He called the police and said "I don't know what he's doing. I don't want to approach him, personally." The police sent a car, but by the time they arrived, the man was gone.

On February 6th, another house was burglarized. Witnesses said two of the robbers were black teenagers. One, who had prior burglary convictions, was soon caught with a laptop stolen from the house.

Two weeks later, Zimmerman spotted Travyon Martin and called the police. The last time he had done this, the suspect got away. This time, he disregarded police instructions and followed. A few minutes later, Martin was dead.

Again, none of this makes Trayvon Martin's death any less tragic. But doesn't it make you feel a bit differently about Zimmerman?

Read Chris Francescani's article here >

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/g...ting-2012-4#ixzz1t9Sbubpd

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#12. To: Ada (#0)

Again, none of this makes Trayvon Martin's death any less tragic. But doesn't it make you feel a bit differently about Zimmerman?

Not at all.

How anyone feels about zimmerman is irrelevant.....

I simply find it hard to believe that a grown man with a handgun, who was following a 17 year old kid, at night in the rain, was simply defending himself. and did nothing to provoke a fight.

I also find it hard to believe that in an altercation where one man has a handgun, and the other does not...... that the armed man would be begging for his life.

What seems plausible to me, and is my opinion only - is that zimmerman followed martin through the complex, in the rain, at night, and confronted him with a handgun.

Martin, instead of retreating, chose to stand HIS ground and fight. In the struggle to save his own life, he bloodied his attacker's nose and caused him a minor head wound while struggling on the pavement. Zimmerman then gained the advantage and trained his weapon on the boy's chest. Martin ,realizing that his attacker meant to do far more than scare him off and inflict some pain - now understands that his only chance to survive is to plead with this man for his life........

his final words are heard on the 911 recording - he is begging for his attacker to not pull that trigger.......

but, ultimately, zimmerman rejects the unarmed boy's tearful request.....

and executes Trayvon Martin with a single blast to the chest.

This is my opinion only.

Jameson  posted on  2012-04-26   21:31:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jameson (#12)

his final words are heard on the 911 recording - he is begging for his attacker to not pull that trigger.......

You heard wrong. The cries were for help, never once was the person yelling out and begging for his life. You are assuming it was the 17 year old yelling when there were eyewitnesses that have said it was Zimmerman yelling and was on the ground with Trayvon on top of him. Your assumptions are crazy. No one seeks to kill someone especially when they are in no danger and have no history of doing any thing like this.

RickyJ  posted on  2012-04-26   21:52:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: RickyJ (#14)

. Your assumptions are crazy

You are welcome to your opinion.

However, I remain unconvinced that the man with the handgun screamed for "help" moments before he executed an unarmed 17 year old.

" No one seeks to kill someone especially when they are in no danger "

In no danger? of course he was in danger - the kid zimmerman was trying to intimidate actually stood up for himself and fought back!

That is indeed a dangerous scenario for an armed bully to face, wouldn't you agree?

Jameson  posted on  2012-04-26   22:03:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Jameson, RickyJ, titorite, Jethro Tull, Eric Stratton, Artisan, all (#15)

. Your assumptions are crazy

You are welcome to your opinion.

However, I remain unconvinced that the man with the handgun screamed for "help" moments before he executed an unarmed 17 year old.

" No one seeks to kill someone especially when they are in no danger "

In no danger? of course he was in danger - the kid zimmerman was trying to intimidate actually stood up for himself and fought back!

That is indeed a dangerous scenario for an armed bully to face, wouldn't you agree?

You are ASSuming a lot things that are not in evidence.

However, I remain unconvinced that the man with the handgun screamed for "help" moments before he executed an unarmed 17 year old.

Your position ASSumes that Zimmerman was itching to kill someone and yet there is nothing in his history to suggest he held that kind of attitude - in fact his history of helping others points in the opposite direction.

As well you are assuming he approached Trayvon with a drawn gun. There is nothing to support that in any of the accounts I have read.

It is just as possible that an overly aggressive black kid attacked an armed man, whom he did not realize was armed because the gun was holstered out of sight, and that man was overwhelmed by the young thug and was screaming for help.

How the gun came to be drawn and discharged is indeterminate from the existing evidence in the public record.

In no danger? of course he was in danger - the kid zimmerman was trying to intimidate actually stood up for himself and fought back!

And you know this to be true how?

It is just as easy to assume that the kid attacked Zimmerman because he had an attitude problem. Something which is in evidence because the kid had already been kicked out of school for attacking someone.

However, I am NOT a Zimmerman apologist my position as I told another "Poooooooor Innocent Trayvon" advocate is that there is insufficient evidence to conclude one way or the other.

Jumping to conclusions based upon unsupported assumptions is logically unsound.

All of the Trayvon advocates all seem to have one common assumption, which is unsupported, in their reasoning. They assume that Zimmerman was looking for a fight and wanted to kill someone, and there is NO, NONE, ZERO, NADA, evidence to support that.

Further is the implied premise that Zimmerman was a "rayciss" and that is also NOT IN EVIDENCE. The evidence, based upon his history and upbringing, is exactly the opposite.

While it is possible that Zimmerman did execute the kid there is NOTHING in the existing evidence which clearly supports that, and all of the assumptions about Zimmerman's attitudes and supposed "ray-cism" have been shown to not have any support in his historical behavior.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-04-27   0:28:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Original_Intent, 4um (#18)

You are ASSuming a lot things that are not in evidence.

Your above, and the problem of the gross over charging by the special prosecutor, are about as far as people should go with this case. Oddly enough Alan Dershowitz, whose politics I despise, has went afa to call her charge of murder 2 a crime. It's perjury to swear to an affidavit if you wilfully exclude exculpatory evidence. Some level of manslaughter could have possibly worked, but still doubtful IMO if Zimmerman was on his back with a cut head as one witness has stated. I'm much more interested in the predictable reaction to an acquittal, and who that reaction benefits. Zimmerman's previous brush with the law will be inadmissible as will Trayvon's so any discussion of that is based on emotion and ignorance of criminal trials.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-04-27   8:19:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Jethro Tull (#24)

You are ASSuming a lot things that are not in evidence.

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Your above, and the problem of the gross over charging by the special prosecutor, are about as far as people should go with this case.

Agreed. However, the "pooooooooooor Trayvon™©" supporters seem to have developed a Lynch Mob mentality and they don't need no steenking evuhdunce cuz' they just knows that this WHITE/hispanic/black rayciss hates black people an' jus' kilt this poor kid cuz' he was black. Of course there is no evidence to support that but then Lynch Mobs don't need no steeking evuhdunce.

Oddly enough Alan Dershowitz, whose politics I despise, has went afa to call her charge of murder 2 a crime. It's perjury to swear to an affidavit if you wilfully exclude exculpatory evidence.

Also agreed (including despising Dershotwit). And there does appear to be a body of exculpatory evidence which the "pooooooooooor Trayvon™©" supporters are busy trying to ignore and downplay because they have their "minds" made up and don't want to be confused by having to deal in facts. The one thing I keep coming back to, because it is key in sorting this out, is the eye witness report that puts Trayvon on top beating Zimmerman, and that is the one piece of evidence the "pooooooooooor Trayvon™©" supporters are desperately trying to avoid. The audio is inconclusive because there are statements in the public record from different credible experts that go both ways i.e., that it was Trayvon screaming for help, and that it was Zimmerman screaming for help. That is where the eyewitness testimony becomes critical because it gives us a datum to use in sorting that out.

Some level of manslaughter could have possibly worked, but still doubtful IMO if Zimmerman was on his back with a cut head as one witness has stated.

Exactly. If it can be shown and verified that it was Trayvon on top beating Zimmerman with his gun still holstered then it becomes a clear cut case of self defense which would result in acquittal - which of course will drive the supporters of the "pooooooooooor Trayvon™©" attacked by the evil WHITE/hispanic/black rayciss scenario into apoplexy.

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