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Title: Why are we not rebeling?
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Published: Apr 30, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-04-30 04:29:03 by titorite
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So what is keeping us from rebelling? Honestly at this point shouldn't we be getting our local boys and starting off on local scales to kick out the corrupt city locals and start working our way up through municipal, state and onto federal levels of change....

They cheat. We will never have justice under this system. The current system will only see us as subjects to be ruled rather than citizens in control of their own destiny.

So what is holding us back from rebelling against this foul system of government????

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#13. To: PSUSA2 (#6)

Who's to say that we aren't rebelling? We're not at the shooting stage yet, but there is a rebellion going on. IMO the reason why it hasn't reached the hang-'em- high stage yet is because too many people benefit from .gov scams. When that benefit stops, because all ponzi schemes crash, then watch out.

When the so called Ponzi schemes end, we will be totally conquered and under control. All will be lost and any freedom we did have will only be a footnote in history. Just think! Conquered from withing without our enemies firing a shot.

ambi  posted on  2012-04-30   9:21:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: ambi (#10)

You need to get over blaming everything on Ron Paul.

I have an opinion about Paul not shared by many.

Olde military saying, lead, follow or get out of the way.

Any idea of reform from within does one thing, it leads the sheep astray as it is far too late for reform.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-04-30   9:21:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom, All (#9)

We have Ron Paul only, nothing more. He speaks of revolution but not of the kind that is needed. Not one person of the upper class is willing to step forward and lead.

Why don't you step forward? What's stopping you? You are quick to critisize Ron Paul every chance you get. You want him to lead a bloody rebellion and since he isn't the leader to do so in your opinion, can we depend on you?

ambi  posted on  2012-04-30   9:27:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: ambi (#13) (Edited)

When the so called Ponzi schemes end, we will be totally conquered and under control. All will be lost and any freedom we did have will only be a footnote in history. Just think! Conquered from withing without our enemies firing a shot.

I disagree.

It is THEIR ponzi scheme and it has served them well for many years. The kikes are masters at manipulation. Every rotten thing out there was started and run by kikes, from the 3 abrahamic faiths to the banking industry. But all good things must come to an end.

We'll be the only ones left standing, because we told them to take their ponzi scheme(s) and religions and shove them up their collective asses. We are not the ones invested in their system. We don't need it. And those here and elsewhere that do need it, sucks to be you.

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PSUSA2  posted on  2012-04-30   9:43:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: PSUSA2 (#16)

We'll be the only ones left standing, because we told them to take their ponzi scheme(s) and religions and shove them up their collective asses. We are not the ones invested in their system. We don't need it. And those here and elsewhere that do need it, sucks to be you.

You assessment of this situation would make a great fictional movie, Contact Spielberg and Tom Hanks and Dream Works and get cracking on it!

ambi  posted on  2012-04-30   9:48:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: ambi (#17)

Time will tell.

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PSUSA2  posted on  2012-04-30   9:51:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: All (#15)

Why the tight jaws all of a sudden? It isn't easy stepping forward and being a leader, is it? Ther are so many bags of wind(opinions) on this forum it is turning into a three ring circus!

ambi  posted on  2012-04-30   9:53:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: ambi, 4um (#19)

I'll play.

Who would I lead, where would we go, and once there, what do you suggest I do with my legions??

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-04-30   10:07:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Jethro Tull (#20)

I'll play.

Who would I lead, where would we go, and once there, what do you suggest I do with my legions??

You'll need to discuss this with Cynicom. He is the one harping that we are leaderless. I'm sure his dynamic wit can come up with something appropriate for your dynamic leadership.

ambi  posted on  2012-04-30   10:12:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: ambi (#15)

Why don't you step forward? What's stopping you? You are quick to critisize Ron Paul every chance you get. You want him to lead a bloody rebellion and since he isn't the leader to do so in your opinion, can we depend on you?

I do not respond to posts laced with the term...YOU...

Cynicom  posted on  2012-04-30   10:13:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Lod (#12)

are you ignorant or just apathetic?

Player, I don't know and I don't care.

Hammer meets nail. : )

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-04-30   10:18:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jethro Tull (#20)

what do you suggest I do with my legions??

Oh noes! Jethro has legions? : )

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-04-30   10:19:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: abraxas, Jethro Tull (#24)

Oh noes! Jethro has legions? : )

That was a typo.

Jethro has lesions. OK???????

Cynicom  posted on  2012-04-30   10:22:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: ambi, 4um (#21)

I suggest we sit back and watch the unfolding global events scheduled for tomorrow, May Day. How ironic it is that May Day was chosen, eh? As for us, I suggest every member here have at least 6-months of food in storage, a source of clean water and lots of 2nd Amendment toys. If anyone hasn't done at least that no leader can help them. A man's first obligation is to protect their family, and not wait for a leader to mount a charge against M1 Abrams tanks on horseback.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-04-30   10:27:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: abraxas, Cynicom (#24)

LOL!!

It's always been Me, Myself and I.

I don't see that changing anytime soon :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-04-30   10:30:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Jethro Tull (#26)

How ironic it is that May Day was chosen, eh?

Waco was a prime example of what this government is able and willing to do to any "NOBODY" that dares raise their head and has no national following.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-04-30   10:34:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Jethro Tull, abraxas (#27)

I could not resist. hehehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2012-04-30   10:36:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Cynicom, Jethro Tull (#29)

lol...I appreciate the giggle Cyni. : )

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-04-30   10:37:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Lod (#12)

Coach to player, are you ignorant or just apathetic?

Player, I don't know and I don't care.

Was that before or after his ass ended up in a sling? lol

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PSUSA2  posted on  2012-04-30   10:40:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Jethro Tull (#20)

Who would I lead, where would we go, and once there, what do you suggest I do with my legions??

Now we're talking!! First, after registering your organization and receiving approval I'd apply for a permit (paying all fees of course) to demonstrate at a time and place acceptable to the proper authorities.

Hint: Have your legions wear earth tones and speak in small voices so as not to appear too radical.

I'd like to join you but unfortunately I have a dental appointment on that day.

GOOD LUCK

" Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics................................ Even if you win, you're still retarded ":

Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities. –Voltaire

Hmmmmm  posted on  2012-04-30   10:44:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Jethro Tull (#26)

How ironic it is that May Day was chosen, eh?

Oh yes....the great May Day. A nationwide celebration of the one year anniversary of raising Binny from the dead and killing him again.

And in 2003 we had the "end" of the invasion of Iraq: In what becomes known as the "Mission Accomplished" speech, U.S. President George W. Bush declares that "major combat operations in Iraq have ended" on board the USS Abraham Lincoln off the coast of California. (What a relief that mission was accomplished and didn't turn into a quagmire!)

In 1979, Elton John became the first pop star to perform in Israel.

In 1971, the Stones released Brown Sugar.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-04-30   10:46:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Hmmmmm (#32)

Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities. –Voltaire

The one thing I recall about Voltaire is this...

Voltaire said he attended a speech given by some figure of power and...HE WAS ARRESTED FOR SMILING AT THE WRONG TIME.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-04-30   10:48:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Cynicom (#22)

I do not respond to posts laced with the term...YOU...

Just as I thought! A big empty bag of wind.

ambi  posted on  2012-04-30   10:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Jethro Tull (#20)

My previous comment may have been tweeked (a little) for publication on a public forum.

Is anybody else ever scared that the thoughts in their head are rational but expressing them isn't.

" Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics................................ Even if you win, you're still retarded ":

Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities. –Voltaire

Hmmmmm  posted on  2012-04-30   10:58:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: titorite (#2)

It is all neat and cool till you learn others suffer by your actions.

A Pakistani man, now here in the U.S. and working in tech, essentially said to me that Pakistan was f'ed up, but if you tried to change something you'd end up hurting someone important to you.

This is why Jesus said he came not to bring peace but a sword, that brother would be set against brother, that if you loved your father or sister or family more than him, then it was the fires of hell for you.

Jesus was a revolutionary.

An old lonely slave comes back from the grave
Searching... searching... searching
For his master who's long gone on

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-04-30   11:20:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: titorite (#4)

My only objection is national pride.... TO me supporting my nation is not the same as taking pride in it..

Then be of a nation within the nation.

An old lonely slave comes back from the grave
Searching... searching... searching
For his master who's long gone on

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-04-30   11:25:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: ambi (#35)

Just as I thought! A big empty bag of wind.

Perhaps.

I still read everyones posts and respond to those that show common social respect.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-04-30   11:27:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Jethro Tull (#20)

Who would I lead

:)

There's the rub. You gotta look better than the alternative.

Vote Obama.

An old lonely slave comes back from the grave
Searching... searching... searching
For his master who's long gone on

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-04-30   11:40:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#40)

There's the rub. You gotta look better than the alternative.

Yep, and have some hope people would follow. They wouldn't, I'm quite certain :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-04-30   11:45:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Cynicom (#9)

Not one person of the upper class is willing to step forward and lead.

Reminds me of how the "Nobles" are depicted in the movie Braveheart.

Having vested interests on both pans of the scale, they fear more those who sustain their wealth and position (and who can withdraw the same, leaving them alive but destitute).

And it is often suggested that the vast majority of those elevated into these positions by the elite possess hidden moral and / or ethical flaws which, through threat of exposure, are utilized to maintain their servility.

There is no one in the political class who has the fortitude or integrity to lead. If it comes, it will not come from there.

‘Gentlemen, if you’ve ever thought about it, the quality of a man’s life is directly proportionate to his commitment to excellence.’ ~Vince Lombardi

Buzzard  posted on  2012-04-30   13:43:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Buzzard, 4 (#42)

IMO if we won't follow the .gov leaders, what makes anyone think we'll follow rebel leaders? It seems to be that most(?) of us are much more prone to telling a wannabe leader of any kind to fuck off than to follow him.

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PSUSA2  posted on  2012-04-30   14:00:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Jethro Tull (#41) (Edited)

Yep, and have some hope people would follow. They wouldn't, I'm quite certain :)

So you're saying we are up the creek not only without a paddle, but without a boat too. In other words, you are admitting "all" is lost. Woe are us!

ambi  posted on  2012-04-30   14:13:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Buzzard, Esso, Jethro Tull (#42)

Having vested interests on both pans of the scale, they fear more those who sustain their wealth and position (and who can withdraw the same, leaving them alive but destitute).

It is called "peniaphobia" a fear of living in poverty.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-04-30   14:19:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: PSUSA2, all (#43)

if we won't follow the .gov leaders, what makes anyone think we'll follow rebel leaders?

The old ways of doing things will not work in this environment.
The processes to prevent them are already in place.

The trick is to stop thinking like a sheep and start acting like a bacteria or a virus.

; )

‘Gentlemen, if you’ve ever thought about it, the quality of a man’s life is directly proportionate to his commitment to excellence.’ ~Vince Lombardi

Buzzard  posted on  2012-04-30   14:49:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: PSUSA2 (#43)

all this talk about the end times /martial law for decades now,. i agree with you that there will be no 'leader'. the only rebellion that will happen is up to each individual, when he has had enough of whatever it is. he will be alone at that time, or maybe with whoever sticks with him. but there will be no leader and no group. nor is there a need for one.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-04-30   15:35:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: titorite (#0)

So what is holding us back from rebelling against this foul system of government????

Most people don't care. And the ones who do, such as myself, have been in these riots before and seen agent provocateurs stirring up trouble just to create chaos. They are part of the FBI, CIA, system infiltrating groups nationwide and worldwide, to create these uprisings. They do not represent the people at all. I know these riots are staged. I have personally been in these riots and observed those agents in L.A. for a long time doing this. What people like myself are doing is arming ourselves with knowledge. Some of us sit back and watch. We save the bullets for when the time will come that we will really need them.

purplerose  posted on  2012-04-30   16:03:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Artisan (#47)

all this talk about the end times /martial law for decades now,. i agree with you that there will be no 'leader'. the only rebellion that will happen is up to each individual, when he has had enough of whatever it is. he will be alone at that time, or maybe with whoever sticks with him. but there will be no leader and no group. nor is there a need for one.

I disagree. Lone instances of rebellion by the fabled "lone wolves" will be squashed like a bug and are ineffective at rolling back the rising tide of tyranny. They are easily demonized and buried and never reach high enough into the power structure to do any real damage.

And you can see that the hidden puppetmasters understand that as each and every group that threatens a social revolt against the criminal enterprise which has taken over our government is quickly infiltrated and castrated. The Tea Party panicked them but between their various agents and infiltrators it took only a few months to take a healthy rebellion against the criminality, infect it, and destroy it.

Likewise the Occupy movement is being neutered.

However, without a strong and effective group around which to rally the curtains will fall.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-04-30   16:12:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Artisan (#47)

I think they are looking for a leader at the wrong time. There are too many wannabe leaders out there now. I would not so much as follow any of them into the kitchen!

If there is open rebellion, leaders will emerge, because they know WTF they are doing and get results.

Until that time, the wannabes can piss off.

I agree with you that it is up to the individual. Those that are looking for leaders now are no better than sheep.

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PSUSA2  posted on  2012-04-30   16:13:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: PSUSA2, Artisan (#50)

Attaboy! Preach that PsyOp disinfo line.

"Don't organize.

Don't appoint leaders.

Just remain dispersed and ineffective, we'll get you rounded up sooner or later."

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-04-30   16:16:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Original_Intent (#49)

However, without a strong and effective group around which to rally the curtains will fall.

Do you have any examples of such groups in the recent history of our country?

ive seen plenty of failed/infiltrated groups such as you mentioned.

i for one have never been a joiner of groups anyway, so a group would not appeal to me. furthermore, anyone who becomes prominent is always accused of being a decoy or phony anyway. even, pat buchanan in the reform party. the jbs. the institute for historical review, accused of being feds. look at 'patriot' immigration groups of the past 10 years, they are always at each others throats.

i learned about Fr Coughlin, who urged individual resistance with a common cause. that is the kind of resistance i like the sound of. Even he, in the late 30s, he warned about the upcoming war propaganda, and he warned that an established group with a leader would be neutered. it is extremely fascinating listening to all his speeches at that time. just amazing, in retrospect. he too was attacked by fdr, villified in the media, and eventually silenced by his superiors.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-04-30   16:42:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: purplerose (#48)

I have personally been in these riots and observed those agents in L.A. for a long time doing this.

the only riot ive ever been in is the one that i saw police start. that was the lakers championship at the staples center in june 2000, against the indiana pacers. if i hadnt been there, i never wouldve believed that the pigs start riots, but they indeed do. that was a real wake up call for me.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-04-30   16:46:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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