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Title: Why are we not rebeling?
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Published: Apr 30, 2012
Author: me
Post Date: 2012-04-30 04:29:03 by titorite
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So what is keeping us from rebelling? Honestly at this point shouldn't we be getting our local boys and starting off on local scales to kick out the corrupt city locals and start working our way up through municipal, state and onto federal levels of change.... They cheat. We will never have justice under this system. The current system will only see us as subjects to be ruled rather than citizens in control of their own destiny. So what is holding us back from rebelling against this foul system of government????
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#31. To: Lod (#12)
Player, I don't know and I don't care. Was that before or after his ass ended up in a sling? lol ------------------------------------------ Now we're talking!! First, after registering your organization and receiving approval I'd apply for a permit (paying all fees of course) to demonstrate at a time and place acceptable to the proper authorities. Hint: Have your legions wear earth tones and speak in small voices so as not to appear too radical. I'd like to join you but unfortunately I have a dental appointment on that day. GOOD LUCK " Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics................................ Even if you win, you're still retarded ": Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities. –Voltaire
Oh yes....the great May Day. A nationwide celebration of the one year anniversary of raising Binny from the dead and killing him again. And in 2003 we had the "end" of the invasion of Iraq: In what becomes known as the "Mission Accomplished" speech, U.S. President George W. Bush declares that "major combat operations in Iraq have ended" on board the USS Abraham Lincoln off the coast of California. (What a relief that mission was accomplished and didn't turn into a quagmire!) In 1979, Elton John became the first pop star to perform in Israel. In 1971, the Stones released Brown Sugar. " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
The one thing I recall about Voltaire is this... Voltaire said he attended a speech given by some figure of power and...HE WAS ARRESTED FOR SMILING AT THE WRONG TIME.
Just as I thought! A big empty bag of wind.
My previous comment may have been tweeked (a little) for publication on a public forum. Is anybody else ever scared that the thoughts in their head are rational but expressing them isn't. " Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics................................ Even if you win, you're still retarded ": Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities. –Voltaire
A Pakistani man, now here in the U.S. and working in tech, essentially said to me that Pakistan was f'ed up, but if you tried to change something you'd end up hurting someone important to you. This is why Jesus said he came not to bring peace but a sword, that brother would be set against brother, that if you loved your father or sister or family more than him, then it was the fires of hell for you. Jesus was a revolutionary. An old lonely slave comes back from the grave Then be of a nation within the nation. An old lonely slave comes back from the grave Perhaps. I still read everyones posts and respond to those that show common social respect.
:) There's the rub. You gotta look better than the alternative. Vote Obama. An old lonely slave comes back from the grave Yep, and have some hope people would follow. They wouldn't, I'm quite certain :)
Reminds me of how the "Nobles" are depicted in the movie Braveheart. Having vested interests on both pans of the scale, they fear more those who sustain their wealth and position (and who can withdraw the same, leaving them alive but destitute). And it is often suggested that the vast majority of those elevated into these positions by the elite possess hidden moral and / or ethical flaws which, through threat of exposure, are utilized to maintain their servility. There is no one in the political class who has the fortitude or integrity to lead. If it comes, it will not come from there. ‘Gentlemen, if you’ve ever thought about it, the quality of a man’s life is directly proportionate to his commitment to excellence.’ ~Vince Lombardi
IMO if we won't follow the .gov leaders, what makes anyone think we'll follow rebel leaders? It seems to be that most(?) of us are much more prone to telling a wannabe leader of any kind to fuck off than to follow him.
------------------------------------------ So you're saying we are up the creek not only without a paddle, but without a boat too. In other words, you are admitting "all" is lost. Woe are us!
It is called "peniaphobia" a fear of living in poverty.
The old ways of doing things will not work in this environment. The trick is to stop thinking like a sheep and start acting like a bacteria or a virus. ; ) ‘Gentlemen, if you’ve ever thought about it, the quality of a man’s life is directly proportionate to his commitment to excellence.’ ~Vince Lombardi
all this talk about the end times /martial law for decades now,. i agree with you that there will be no 'leader'. the only rebellion that will happen is up to each individual, when he has had enough of whatever it is. he will be alone at that time, or maybe with whoever sticks with him. but there will be no leader and no group. nor is there a need for one.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Most people don't care. And the ones who do, such as myself, have been in these riots before and seen agent provocateurs stirring up trouble just to create chaos. They are part of the FBI, CIA, system infiltrating groups nationwide and worldwide, to create these uprisings. They do not represent the people at all. I know these riots are staged. I have personally been in these riots and observed those agents in L.A. for a long time doing this. What people like myself are doing is arming ourselves with knowledge. Some of us sit back and watch. We save the bullets for when the time will come that we will really need them.
I disagree. Lone instances of rebellion by the fabled "lone wolves" will be squashed like a bug and are ineffective at rolling back the rising tide of tyranny. They are easily demonized and buried and never reach high enough into the power structure to do any real damage. And you can see that the hidden puppetmasters understand that as each and every group that threatens a social revolt against the criminal enterprise which has taken over our government is quickly infiltrated and castrated. The Tea Party panicked them but between their various agents and infiltrators it took only a few months to take a healthy rebellion against the criminality, infect it, and destroy it. Likewise the Occupy movement is being neutered. However, without a strong and effective group around which to rally the curtains will fall. I think they are looking for a leader at the wrong time. There are too many wannabe leaders out there now. I would not so much as follow any of them into the kitchen! If there is open rebellion, leaders will emerge, because they know WTF they are doing and get results. Until that time, the wannabes can piss off. I agree with you that it is up to the individual. Those that are looking for leaders now are no better than sheep. ------------------------------------------ Attaboy! Preach that PsyOp disinfo line. "Don't organize. Don't appoint leaders. Just remain dispersed and ineffective, we'll get you rounded up sooner or later." Do you have any examples of such groups in the recent history of our country? ive seen plenty of failed/infiltrated groups such as you mentioned. i for one have never been a joiner of groups anyway, so a group would not appeal to me. furthermore, anyone who becomes prominent is always accused of being a decoy or phony anyway. even, pat buchanan in the reform party. the jbs. the institute for historical review, accused of being feds. look at 'patriot' immigration groups of the past 10 years, they are always at each others throats. i learned about Fr Coughlin, who urged individual resistance with a common cause. that is the kind of resistance i like the sound of. Even he, in the late 30s, he warned about the upcoming war propaganda, and he warned that an established group with a leader would be neutered. it is extremely fascinating listening to all his speeches at that time. just amazing, in retrospect. he too was attacked by fdr, villified in the media, and eventually silenced by his superiors. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
the only riot ive ever been in is the one that i saw police start. that was the lakers championship at the staples center in june 2000, against the indiana pacers. if i hadnt been there, i never wouldve believed that the pigs start riots, but they indeed do. that was a real wake up call for me. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Attaboy! Preach that PsyOp disinfo line. "Don't organize. Don't appoint leaders. Just remain dispersed and ineffective, we'll get you rounded up sooner or later." lol, you psyop disinfo agent you... . ------------------------------------------ Most of us don't care. We're comfortable. Enough. Then there's the problem of the media illusion. Most aren't even aware. Then there's the problem with the authorities being brainwashed. People still vote. I see no viable solution. Of course this is nothing new. lol! I stick to my position. in the end, anyone who sees a culmination of bullshit, if they ever face the state, it will be him against the state. period. that is reality. One may even have a cheering section on the internet for moral support, but even so, that is all that it will amount to. it is essentially meaningless. pick any issue, it boils down to the individual vs the state. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
The first half of my post got me so depressed I forgot the second half: Then there are those of us who are rebelling. In our own small but effective way. The pen is mightier than the sword ;) The human spirit will prevail... two "prominent" examples come to mind. remember ed and elaine brown, lauded by 'patriots'. half the people who showed up at the browns house are still talking shit about them years later. ive heard it and read it, recently. and sheery jackson, the black former irs agent who was imprisoned for 2 years. ron paul supposedly helped influence the prison to get her to a doctor when she was sick. then after 2 yrs she got out of jail and her husband begged for donations on the internet, which he got. that is nice, but bottom line, it was her ass sitting in prison for 2 years, by herself. no group rescued her or broke her out of prison or helped her escape, lol. that is in the movies. it is the individual vs the state. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Historically it has been our churches which are central point around which resistance to tyranny coalesces. The problem we face with that, now, is corruption within the church - both Protestant and Catholic, and yet one of the common threads that one can find amongst our enemies is their hostility to religion. You can find the writings of the materialists larded with their antipathy towards religion, because religion points out the fundamental truth that materialism is a dead end. Buddha was on the right path and the true teachings of Christ were very much the same. That freedom, true freedom, begins within. Living a life of clean hands, of helping others, of doing what is right even when none is looking. Even the concepts of right and wrong, though we know them instinctively even if we do not always follow even our own guidance, are religious concepts, and you can see the hatred for them in the writings of the materialists: Religions, at their best, exalt those things which are best in man. It is there I would look for leadership. But powerful groups are made of powerful individuals and the synergy of such a group is greater than the sum of the parts. It was groups of workers, Unions, which broke the back of the savage practices of the Robber Barons - individuals working together toward a common, and worthy, goal. good point and i agree that is where the real truth lies. however, when it comes to the political front, churches are neutered and afraid to say anything about the political realm. if anything, catholics will still mention opposing abortion, and the lefties/bishops will advocate open immigration (as if that is a political benefit in our current system.) but that is about the extent of it,. i have never heard a priest oppose war from the pulpit. 2 weeks ago i was at church and heard a priest say that people who deny the holocaust are akin to those who denied the divinity of Christ (it was the 2nd Sunday of Easter, so he was trying to equate that week's Gospel about those who doubted the ressurection of Christ with those who deny the 6 million number.) I became livid listening to his tripe, it was TERRIBLE the things he said. i met him afterwards, and asked for his email address because I am going to form a response and rebuttal to his GARBAGE. The bottom line is that scrutinizing accuracies of historical events can not be likened to doubting the divinity of the true God Jesus Christ. Wow that is outrageous. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
And I was there when that happened too. I was also there when they held the Democratic Convention in Downtown L.A. too. In fact, it was held in that same month and year. The RedLine subway had just opened and I had taken a free trip on the subway to Downtown L.A. While on the subway on way to L.A., the LAPD SWAT Team were checking everybody identification enroute to the 9th Street and Flower Street subway stop. Everybody was checked including their subway passes and tickets.
I remember the Browns. On the other side, remember Ranch Rescue and Casey Nethercott? Remember how that felon used others against the AZ governor to try and keep him from being extradited back to TX? I talked to Napolitano, who was the governor at that time. She actually took my call. I called her from the payphone at the Pilot in Avondale as this was going on. She explained it, and she was right (in that instance). I am very wary of others trying to organize. They always seem to want others to organize around them. Alex Jones is a prime example of this. Either you agree with him or you're a disinfo stooge federal agent. Hmmmm. That sounds like someone else here... lol ------------------------------------------ wow you were at that lakers game? i have audio of it all and did a show on it afterwards. do you remember the burning cbs2 newsvan? the cops forced a large group of us to go closer to the burning newsvan as it was engulfed in flames. that was very crazy and dangerous. my dog and i were among those that the pigs refused to let leave. i even had a media pass because i worked at a station in hollywood and they didnt let us leave. i called the lapd spokesman later who denied any of it happened, even though it did. if that were to happen today id sue their ass off. and i was at the democrat convention too, but that was in august 2000. i saw a lot there too. i got out right before the cops started a riot when rage against the machine played. i saw it coming so i got out of there and by the time i was in my car on the freeway the news reported teargas and rubber bullets flying. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
sounds vaguely familiar but i dont remember the details. LMAO! Now that is funny. interesting that she took your call. not too many people can say they actually spoke to that wench. speaking of ranch rescue. glenn spencer of american patrol once had a radio host as a guest at his home in AZ and as soon as the radio guy talked about 9/11, spencer kicked him off his property. i forget the guys name at the moment but he told the story on his show, i think it was on RBN. point being that even so called leaders are wankers much of the time. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
individuals working towards a common just cause seems to fit that bill. Otherwise, since you acknowledge that groups are always compromised, why do you advocate groups? "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
The pen is mightier than the sword ;) The human spirit will prevail... I say you got blinders on. How are you rebelling? Has it done any good? The pen may be mightier than the sword, but to be mightier those words got to be read, understood by the vast majority of the masses; someone who isn't dumbed down. This is one little forum that doesn't have enough members to make one iota of a difference. Many on here act as self appointed elites and repeatedly post the same comments and mantra. I don't want to come right out and call you delusional because you think your words are helping fix what is wrong with our country. I've said it many times before. Thomas Jefferson gave us the only anecdote to fix all our political problems and we continue to ignore his formula to restore our country.
They don't know the first thing about leadership. To them it's all about feeding their egos. They want to be Mr Big and have all the perks. The problem is many idiots are all too willing to follow them because they are so easy to manipulate. A leader is more of a servant than any personal servant he might have. And he better know WTF he's doing. ------------------------------------------ Checkmate. ------------------------------------------ Just because it doesn't have enough members does not mean it is not being read by non-members. You'd really be surprised to know there are those who do lurk on this forum and are members of the press but cannot post comments because they are being watched by their superiors.
I was not at the Laker game but I was downtown L.A. that evening coming back from Clifton's Cafeteria and working on a federal lawsuit in the Roy Ball Building law library. Yes, I do remember that cbs 2 newsvan fire. It took place downtown L.A. and from what I watched, thugs and such were observed jumping on top and kicking and smashing the newsvan windows and one of the punks set fire to it causing a major chaotic situation. The van exploded into balls of fire. It was crazy and one never to be forgotten.
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#32. To: Jethro Tull (#20)
Who would I lead, where would we go, and once there, what do you suggest I do with my legions??
#33. To: Jethro Tull (#26)
How ironic it is that May Day was chosen, eh?
#34. To: Hmmmmm (#32)
Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities. –Voltaire
#35. To: Cynicom (#22)
I do not respond to posts laced with the term...YOU...
#36. To: Jethro Tull (#20)
#37. To: titorite (#2)
It is all neat and cool till you learn others suffer by your actions.
Searching... searching... searching
For his master who's long gone on
#38. To: titorite (#4)
My only objection is national pride.... TO me supporting my nation is not the same as taking pride in it..
Searching... searching... searching
For his master who's long gone on
#39. To: ambi (#35)
Just as I thought! A big empty bag of wind.
#40. To: Jethro Tull (#20)
Who would I lead
Searching... searching... searching
For his master who's long gone on
#41. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#40)
There's the rub. You gotta look better than the alternative.
#42. To: Cynicom (#9)
Not one person of the upper class is willing to step forward and lead.
#43. To: Buzzard, 4 (#42)
#44. To: Jethro Tull (#41)
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Yep, and have some hope people would follow. They wouldn't, I'm quite certain :)
#45. To: Buzzard, Esso, Jethro Tull (#42)
Having vested interests on both pans of the scale, they fear more those who sustain their wealth and position (and who can withdraw the same, leaving them alive but destitute).
#46. To: PSUSA2, all (#43)
if we won't follow the .gov leaders, what makes anyone think we'll follow rebel leaders?
The processes to prevent them are already in place.
#47. To: PSUSA2 (#43)
#48. To: titorite (#0)
So what is holding us back from rebelling against this foul system of government????
#49. To: Artisan (#47)
all this talk about the end times /martial law for decades now,. i agree with you that there will be no 'leader'. the only rebellion that will happen is up to each individual, when he has had enough of whatever it is. he will be alone at that time, or maybe with whoever sticks with him. but there will be no leader and no group. nor is there a need for one.
#50. To: Artisan (#47)
#51. To: PSUSA2, Artisan (#50)
#52. To: Original_Intent (#49)
However, without a strong and effective group around which to rally the curtains will fall.
#53. To: purplerose (#48)
I have personally been in these riots and observed those agents in L.A. for a long time doing this.
#54. To: Artisan (#52)
#55. To: titorite (#0)
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#56. To: PSUSA2 (#54)
lol, you psyop disinfo agent you...
#57. To: titorite, All (#55)
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#58. To: PSUSA2 (#54)
#59. To: Artisan (#52)
Do you have any examples of such groups in the recent history of our country?
"What basic psychological distortion can be found in every civilization of which we know anything? The only psychological force capable of producing these perversions is morality--the concept of right and wrong. The re-interpretation and eventual eradication of the concept of right and wrong are the belated objectives of nearly all psychotherapy." ~ Dr. G. Brock Chisholm, Psychiatrist, Co-Founder World Federation of Mental Health
#60. To: Artisan (#58)
it is the individual vs the state.
#61. To: Original_Intent (#59)
#62. To: Artisan (#53)
#63. To: Artisan (#58)
#64. To: purplerose (#62)
And I was there when that happened too. I was also there when they held the Democratic Convention in Downtown L.A. too. In fact, it was held in that same month and year.
#65. To: PSUSA2 (#63)
remember Ranch Rescue and Casey Nethercott? Remember how that felon used others against the AZ governor to try and keep him from being extradited back to TX?
I talked to Napolitano, who was the governor at that time. She actually took my call. I called her from the payphone at the Pilot in Avondale as this was going on.
#66. To: Original_Intent (#60)
But powerful groups are made of powerful individuals and the synergy of such a group is greater than the sum of the parts.
#67. To: wudidiz (#57)
Then there are those of us who are rebelling. In our own small but effective way.
#68. To: Artisan (#65)
think it was on RBN. point being that even so called leaders are wankers much of the time.
#69. To: Artisan (#66)
Otherwise, since you acknowledge that groups are always compromised, why do you advocate groups?
#70. To: ambi (#67)
"...This is one little forum that doesn't have enough members to make one iota of a difference..."
#71. To: Artisan (#64)
wow you were at that lakers game? i have audio of it all and did a show on it afterwards. do you remember the burning cbs2 newsvan
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