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Title: Why are we not rebeling?
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Published: Apr 30, 2012
Author: me
Post Date: 2012-04-30 04:29:03 by titorite
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Comments: 95

So what is keeping us from rebelling? Honestly at this point shouldn't we be getting our local boys and starting off on local scales to kick out the corrupt city locals and start working our way up through municipal, state and onto federal levels of change....

They cheat. We will never have justice under this system. The current system will only see us as subjects to be ruled rather than citizens in control of their own destiny.

So what is holding us back from rebelling against this foul system of government????

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So what is holding us back from rebelling against this foul system of government????

Fear...selfishness

The first Revolution was fought by twenty five per cent of the colonists.

The others sat on their hands, did nothing or AIDED THE BRITS.

Secondly, there were MANY people of the upper class that were willing to fight, this time we HAVE NONE. Ron Paul is part of the system.

If a member here were to mention that he or she wants to lead a rebellion, ten other members would be on the phone to Washington, doing their patriotic duty.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-04-30   4:37:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Fear...selfishness

The first Revolution was fought by twenty five per cent of the colonists.

The others sat on their hands, did nothing or AIDED THE BRITS.

Secondly, there were MANY people of the upper class that were willing to fight, this time we HAVE NONE. Ron Paul is part of the system.

If a member here were to mention that he or she wants to lead a rebellion, ten other members would be on the phone to Washington, doing their patriotic duty.

mmmmmmmm..

I don't like this answer.

Fear,,,, selfishness...

It rings hollow and true.

The second part though....

Few in the upper class are willing to fight.... These days the lines are even more divided.... I do like that johnson and johnson heir though. Ever since his doc born rich.

as for leading a revolution... I did shit here in NB.... I inspired others to follow me.... THings began to change and I can still see the echos of my actions... echos that would be greater but after so many outtings I had a moment.... I quit my shit.

then time passed.... other people got inspired and got fingered for my actions...

That was a clicncher for me.

Others... others have gone on to make local news rags...

When one rebels maybe one does not want to kill... I have no desire to shoot someone in the face.....Still a desire to rebel... and when you spread the same message to the public on the walls of the schools, private businesses, and police stations and fire stations....

Words man....

Words can be a porwerful thing... better than bullets. And the fact that one can get away with "fucking with" (or tagging) such places of the beast like a police station...

It is all neat and cool till you learn others suffer by your actions.

So you stop.... then things don't improve but rather get worse... and you wonder why you stopped in the first place.

People need inspiration before they can feel motivation .

Let snitches make calls...this nation still needs a revolution.

titorite  posted on  2012-04-30   5:38:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

One of my family ancestors was Joseph Warren. He wrote the Suffolk Resolves, gave speeches and was endlessly harassed by the Brits. On opening day of the revolution he took up his musket at Breeds Hill and was shot by the Brits.

He was one among many of the upper class that was ready and willing to both speak and pull the trigger.

We have Ron Paul only, nothing more. He speaks of revolution but not of the kind that is needed. Not one person of the upper class is willing to step forward and lead.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-04-30   9:09:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Not one person of the upper class is willing to step forward and lead.

Reminds me of how the "Nobles" are depicted in the movie Braveheart.

Having vested interests on both pans of the scale, they fear more those who sustain their wealth and position (and who can withdraw the same, leaving them alive but destitute).

And it is often suggested that the vast majority of those elevated into these positions by the elite possess hidden moral and / or ethical flaws which, through threat of exposure, are utilized to maintain their servility.

There is no one in the political class who has the fortitude or integrity to lead. If it comes, it will not come from there.

Buzzard  posted on  2012-04-30   13:43:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

IMO if we won't follow the .gov leaders, what makes anyone think we'll follow rebel leaders? It seems to be that most(?) of us are much more prone to telling a wannabe leader of any kind to fuck off than to follow him.

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-04-30   14:00:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

all this talk about the end times /martial law for decades now,. i agree with you that there will be no 'leader'. the only rebellion that will happen is up to each individual, when he has had enough of whatever it is. he will be alone at that time, or maybe with whoever sticks with him. but there will be no leader and no group. nor is there a need for one.

Artisan  posted on  2012-04-30   15:35:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

all this talk about the end times /martial law for decades now,. i agree with you that there will be no 'leader'. the only rebellion that will happen is up to each individual, when he has had enough of whatever it is. he will be alone at that time, or maybe with whoever sticks with him. but there will be no leader and no group. nor is there a need for one.

I disagree. Lone instances of rebellion by the fabled "lone wolves" will be squashed like a bug and are ineffective at rolling back the rising tide of tyranny. They are easily demonized and buried and never reach high enough into the power structure to do any real damage.

And you can see that the hidden puppetmasters understand that as each and every group that threatens a social revolt against the criminal enterprise which has taken over our government is quickly infiltrated and castrated. The Tea Party panicked them but between their various agents and infiltrators it took only a few months to take a healthy rebellion against the criminality, infect it, and destroy it.

Likewise the Occupy movement is being neutered.

However, without a strong and effective group around which to rally the curtains will fall.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-04-30   16:12:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

However, without a strong and effective group around which to rally the curtains will fall.

Do you have any examples of such groups in the recent history of our country?

ive seen plenty of failed/infiltrated groups such as you mentioned.

i for one have never been a joiner of groups anyway, so a group would not appeal to me. furthermore, anyone who becomes prominent is always accused of being a decoy or phony anyway. even, pat buchanan in the reform party. the jbs. the institute for historical review, accused of being feds. look at 'patriot' immigration groups of the past 10 years, they are always at each others throats.

i learned about Fr Coughlin, who urged individual resistance with a common cause. that is the kind of resistance i like the sound of. Even he, in the late 30s, he warned about the upcoming war propaganda, and he warned that an established group with a leader would be neutered. it is extremely fascinating listening to all his speeches at that time. just amazing, in retrospect. he too was attacked by fdr, villified in the media, and eventually silenced by his superiors.

Artisan  posted on  2012-04-30   16:42:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Attaboy! Preach that PsyOp disinfo line.

"Don't organize.

Don't appoint leaders.

Just remain dispersed and ineffective, we'll get you rounded up sooner or later."

lol, you psyop disinfo agent you...

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PSUSA2  posted on  2012-04-30   16:49:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

two "prominent" examples come to mind. remember ed and elaine brown, lauded by 'patriots'. half the people who showed up at the browns house are still talking shit about them years later. ive heard it and read it, recently.

and sheery jackson, the black former irs agent who was imprisoned for 2 years. ron paul supposedly helped influence the prison to get her to a doctor when she was sick. then after 2 yrs she got out of jail and her husband begged for donations on the internet, which he got. that is nice, but bottom line, it was her ass sitting in prison for 2 years, by herself. no group rescued her or broke her out of prison or helped her escape, lol. that is in the movies.

it is the individual vs the state.

Artisan  posted on  2012-04-30   17:01:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

it is the individual vs the state.

But powerful groups are made of powerful individuals and the synergy of such a group is greater than the sum of the parts.

It was groups of workers, Unions, which broke the back of the savage practices of the Robber Barons - individuals working together toward a common, and worthy, goal.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-04-30   17:14:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

But powerful groups are made of powerful individuals and the synergy of such a group is greater than the sum of the parts.

individuals working towards a common just cause seems to fit that bill.

Otherwise, since you acknowledge that groups are always compromised, why do you advocate groups?

Artisan  posted on  2012-04-30   17:37:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#69. To: Artisan (#66)

Otherwise, since you acknowledge that groups are always compromised, why do you advocate groups?

Checkmate.

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-04-30 18:18:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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