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Title: Why are we not rebeling?
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Published: Apr 30, 2012
Author: me
Post Date: 2012-04-30 04:29:03 by titorite
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Comments: 95

So what is keeping us from rebelling? Honestly at this point shouldn't we be getting our local boys and starting off on local scales to kick out the corrupt city locals and start working our way up through municipal, state and onto federal levels of change....

They cheat. We will never have justice under this system. The current system will only see us as subjects to be ruled rather than citizens in control of their own destiny.

So what is holding us back from rebelling against this foul system of government????

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#1. To: titorite (#0)

So what is holding us back from rebelling against this foul system of government????

Fear...selfishness

The first Revolution was fought by twenty five per cent of the colonists.

The others sat on their hands, did nothing or AIDED THE BRITS.

Secondly, there were MANY people of the upper class that were willing to fight, this time we HAVE NONE. Ron Paul is part of the system.

If a member here were to mention that he or she wants to lead a rebellion, ten other members would be on the phone to Washington, doing their patriotic duty.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-04-30   4:37:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Cynicom (#1) (Edited)

Fear...selfishness

The first Revolution was fought by twenty five per cent of the colonists.

The others sat on their hands, did nothing or AIDED THE BRITS.

Secondly, there were MANY people of the upper class that were willing to fight, this time we HAVE NONE. Ron Paul is part of the system.

If a member here were to mention that he or she wants to lead a rebellion, ten other members would be on the phone to Washington, doing their patriotic duty.

mmmmmmmm..

I don't like this answer.

Fear,,,, selfishness...

It rings hollow and true.

The second part though....

Few in the upper class are willing to fight.... These days the lines are even more divided.... I do like that johnson and johnson heir though. Ever since his doc born rich.

as for leading a revolution... I did shit here in NB.... I inspired others to follow me.... THings began to change and I can still see the echos of my actions... echos that would be greater but after so many outtings I had a moment.... I quit my shit.

then time passed.... other people got inspired and got fingered for my actions...

That was a clicncher for me.

Others... others have gone on to make local news rags...

When one rebels maybe one does not want to kill... I have no desire to shoot someone in the face.....Still a desire to rebel... and when you spread the same message to the public on the walls of the schools, private businesses, and police stations and fire stations....

Words man....

Words can be a porwerful thing... better than bullets. And the fact that one can get away with "fucking with" (or tagging) such places of the beast like a police station...

It is all neat and cool till you learn others suffer by your actions.

So you stop.... then things don't improve but rather get worse... and you wonder why you stopped in the first place.

People need inspiration before they can feel motivation .

Let snitches make calls...this nation still needs a revolution.

titorite  posted on  2012-04-30   5:38:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: titorite (#2)

One of my family ancestors was Joseph Warren. He wrote the Suffolk Resolves, gave speeches and was endlessly harassed by the Brits. On opening day of the revolution he took up his musket at Breeds Hill and was shot by the Brits.

He was one among many of the upper class that was ready and willing to both speak and pull the trigger.

We have Ron Paul only, nothing more. He speaks of revolution but not of the kind that is needed. Not one person of the upper class is willing to step forward and lead.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-04-30   9:09:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Cynicom (#9)

Not one person of the upper class is willing to step forward and lead.

Reminds me of how the "Nobles" are depicted in the movie Braveheart.

Having vested interests on both pans of the scale, they fear more those who sustain their wealth and position (and who can withdraw the same, leaving them alive but destitute).

And it is often suggested that the vast majority of those elevated into these positions by the elite possess hidden moral and / or ethical flaws which, through threat of exposure, are utilized to maintain their servility.

There is no one in the political class who has the fortitude or integrity to lead. If it comes, it will not come from there.

Buzzard  posted on  2012-04-30   13:43:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Buzzard, 4 (#42)

IMO if we won't follow the .gov leaders, what makes anyone think we'll follow rebel leaders? It seems to be that most(?) of us are much more prone to telling a wannabe leader of any kind to fuck off than to follow him.

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-04-30   14:00:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: PSUSA2 (#43)

all this talk about the end times /martial law for decades now,. i agree with you that there will be no 'leader'. the only rebellion that will happen is up to each individual, when he has had enough of whatever it is. he will be alone at that time, or maybe with whoever sticks with him. but there will be no leader and no group. nor is there a need for one.

Artisan  posted on  2012-04-30   15:35:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Artisan (#47)

all this talk about the end times /martial law for decades now,. i agree with you that there will be no 'leader'. the only rebellion that will happen is up to each individual, when he has had enough of whatever it is. he will be alone at that time, or maybe with whoever sticks with him. but there will be no leader and no group. nor is there a need for one.

I disagree. Lone instances of rebellion by the fabled "lone wolves" will be squashed like a bug and are ineffective at rolling back the rising tide of tyranny. They are easily demonized and buried and never reach high enough into the power structure to do any real damage.

And you can see that the hidden puppetmasters understand that as each and every group that threatens a social revolt against the criminal enterprise which has taken over our government is quickly infiltrated and castrated. The Tea Party panicked them but between their various agents and infiltrators it took only a few months to take a healthy rebellion against the criminality, infect it, and destroy it.

Likewise the Occupy movement is being neutered.

However, without a strong and effective group around which to rally the curtains will fall.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-04-30   16:12:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Original_Intent (#49)

However, without a strong and effective group around which to rally the curtains will fall.

Do you have any examples of such groups in the recent history of our country?

ive seen plenty of failed/infiltrated groups such as you mentioned.

i for one have never been a joiner of groups anyway, so a group would not appeal to me. furthermore, anyone who becomes prominent is always accused of being a decoy or phony anyway. even, pat buchanan in the reform party. the jbs. the institute for historical review, accused of being feds. look at 'patriot' immigration groups of the past 10 years, they are always at each others throats.

i learned about Fr Coughlin, who urged individual resistance with a common cause. that is the kind of resistance i like the sound of. Even he, in the late 30s, he warned about the upcoming war propaganda, and he warned that an established group with a leader would be neutered. it is extremely fascinating listening to all his speeches at that time. just amazing, in retrospect. he too was attacked by fdr, villified in the media, and eventually silenced by his superiors.

Artisan  posted on  2012-04-30   16:42:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Artisan (#52)

Do you have any examples of such groups in the recent history of our country?

Historically it has been our churches which are central point around which resistance to tyranny coalesces.

The problem we face with that, now, is corruption within the church - both Protestant and Catholic, and yet one of the common threads that one can find amongst our enemies is their hostility to religion. You can find the writings of the materialists larded with their antipathy towards religion, because religion points out the fundamental truth that materialism is a dead end. Buddha was on the right path and the true teachings of Christ were very much the same. That freedom, true freedom, begins within. Living a life of clean hands, of helping others, of doing what is right even when none is looking. Even the concepts of right and wrong, though we know them instinctively even if we do not always follow even our own guidance, are religious concepts, and you can see the hatred for them in the writings of the materialists:

"What basic psychological distortion can be found in every civilization of which we know anything? The only psychological force capable of producing these perversions is morality--the concept of right and wrong. The re-interpretation and eventual eradication of the concept of right and wrong are the belated objectives of nearly all psychotherapy." ~ Dr. G. Brock Chisholm, Psychiatrist, Co-Founder World Federation of Mental Health

Religions, at their best, exalt those things which are best in man. It is there I would look for leadership.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-04-30   17:11:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Original_Intent (#59)

good point and i agree that is where the real truth lies. however, when it comes to the political front, churches are neutered and afraid to say anything about the political realm. if anything, catholics will still mention opposing abortion, and the lefties/bishops will advocate open immigration (as if that is a political benefit in our current system.) but that is about the extent of it,. i have never heard a priest oppose war from the pulpit.

2 weeks ago i was at church and heard a priest say that people who deny the holocaust are akin to those who denied the divinity of Christ (it was the 2nd Sunday of Easter, so he was trying to equate that week's Gospel about those who doubted the ressurection of Christ with those who deny the 6 million number.) I became livid listening to his tripe, it was TERRIBLE the things he said. i met him afterwards, and asked for his email address because I am going to form a response and rebuttal to his GARBAGE. The bottom line is that scrutinizing accuracies of historical events can not be likened to doubting the divinity of the true God Jesus Christ. Wow that is outrageous.

Artisan  posted on  2012-04-30   17:21:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Artisan (#61)

i met him afterwards, and asked for his email address because I am going to form a response and rebuttal to his GARBAGE.

i'd love to read that and be updated on his response to it, if any.

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