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Title: Why are we not rebeling?
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Published: Apr 30, 2012
Author: me
Post Date: 2012-04-30 04:29:03 by titorite
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So what is keeping us from rebelling? Honestly at this point shouldn't we be getting our local boys and starting off on local scales to kick out the corrupt city locals and start working our way up through municipal, state and onto federal levels of change.... They cheat. We will never have justice under this system. The current system will only see us as subjects to be ruled rather than citizens in control of their own destiny. So what is holding us back from rebelling against this foul system of government????
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#56. To: PSUSA2 (#54)
lol! I stick to my position. in the end, anyone who sees a culmination of bullshit, if they ever face the state, it will be him against the state. period. that is reality. One may even have a cheering section on the internet for moral support, but even so, that is all that it will amount to. it is essentially meaningless. pick any issue, it boils down to the individual vs the state. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
The first half of my post got me so depressed I forgot the second half: Then there are those of us who are rebelling. In our own small but effective way. The pen is mightier than the sword ;) The human spirit will prevail... two "prominent" examples come to mind. remember ed and elaine brown, lauded by 'patriots'. half the people who showed up at the browns house are still talking shit about them years later. ive heard it and read it, recently. and sheery jackson, the black former irs agent who was imprisoned for 2 years. ron paul supposedly helped influence the prison to get her to a doctor when she was sick. then after 2 yrs she got out of jail and her husband begged for donations on the internet, which he got. that is nice, but bottom line, it was her ass sitting in prison for 2 years, by herself. no group rescued her or broke her out of prison or helped her escape, lol. that is in the movies. it is the individual vs the state. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Historically it has been our churches which are central point around which resistance to tyranny coalesces. The problem we face with that, now, is corruption within the church - both Protestant and Catholic, and yet one of the common threads that one can find amongst our enemies is their hostility to religion. You can find the writings of the materialists larded with their antipathy towards religion, because religion points out the fundamental truth that materialism is a dead end. Buddha was on the right path and the true teachings of Christ were very much the same. That freedom, true freedom, begins within. Living a life of clean hands, of helping others, of doing what is right even when none is looking. Even the concepts of right and wrong, though we know them instinctively even if we do not always follow even our own guidance, are religious concepts, and you can see the hatred for them in the writings of the materialists: Religions, at their best, exalt those things which are best in man. It is there I would look for leadership. But powerful groups are made of powerful individuals and the synergy of such a group is greater than the sum of the parts. It was groups of workers, Unions, which broke the back of the savage practices of the Robber Barons - individuals working together toward a common, and worthy, goal. good point and i agree that is where the real truth lies. however, when it comes to the political front, churches are neutered and afraid to say anything about the political realm. if anything, catholics will still mention opposing abortion, and the lefties/bishops will advocate open immigration (as if that is a political benefit in our current system.) but that is about the extent of it,. i have never heard a priest oppose war from the pulpit. 2 weeks ago i was at church and heard a priest say that people who deny the holocaust are akin to those who denied the divinity of Christ (it was the 2nd Sunday of Easter, so he was trying to equate that week's Gospel about those who doubted the ressurection of Christ with those who deny the 6 million number.) I became livid listening to his tripe, it was TERRIBLE the things he said. i met him afterwards, and asked for his email address because I am going to form a response and rebuttal to his GARBAGE. The bottom line is that scrutinizing accuracies of historical events can not be likened to doubting the divinity of the true God Jesus Christ. Wow that is outrageous. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
And I was there when that happened too. I was also there when they held the Democratic Convention in Downtown L.A. too. In fact, it was held in that same month and year. The RedLine subway had just opened and I had taken a free trip on the subway to Downtown L.A. While on the subway on way to L.A., the LAPD SWAT Team were checking everybody identification enroute to the 9th Street and Flower Street subway stop. Everybody was checked including their subway passes and tickets.
I remember the Browns. On the other side, remember Ranch Rescue and Casey Nethercott? Remember how that felon used others against the AZ governor to try and keep him from being extradited back to TX? I talked to Napolitano, who was the governor at that time. She actually took my call. I called her from the payphone at the Pilot in Avondale as this was going on. She explained it, and she was right (in that instance). I am very wary of others trying to organize. They always seem to want others to organize around them. Alex Jones is a prime example of this. Either you agree with him or you're a disinfo stooge federal agent. Hmmmm. That sounds like someone else here... lol ------------------------------------------ wow you were at that lakers game? i have audio of it all and did a show on it afterwards. do you remember the burning cbs2 newsvan? the cops forced a large group of us to go closer to the burning newsvan as it was engulfed in flames. that was very crazy and dangerous. my dog and i were among those that the pigs refused to let leave. i even had a media pass because i worked at a station in hollywood and they didnt let us leave. i called the lapd spokesman later who denied any of it happened, even though it did. if that were to happen today id sue their ass off. and i was at the democrat convention too, but that was in august 2000. i saw a lot there too. i got out right before the cops started a riot when rage against the machine played. i saw it coming so i got out of there and by the time i was in my car on the freeway the news reported teargas and rubber bullets flying. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
sounds vaguely familiar but i dont remember the details. LMAO! Now that is funny. interesting that she took your call. not too many people can say they actually spoke to that wench. speaking of ranch rescue. glenn spencer of american patrol once had a radio host as a guest at his home in AZ and as soon as the radio guy talked about 9/11, spencer kicked him off his property. i forget the guys name at the moment but he told the story on his show, i think it was on RBN. point being that even so called leaders are wankers much of the time. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
individuals working towards a common just cause seems to fit that bill. Otherwise, since you acknowledge that groups are always compromised, why do you advocate groups? "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
The pen is mightier than the sword ;) The human spirit will prevail... I say you got blinders on. How are you rebelling? Has it done any good? The pen may be mightier than the sword, but to be mightier those words got to be read, understood by the vast majority of the masses; someone who isn't dumbed down. This is one little forum that doesn't have enough members to make one iota of a difference. Many on here act as self appointed elites and repeatedly post the same comments and mantra. I don't want to come right out and call you delusional because you think your words are helping fix what is wrong with our country. I've said it many times before. Thomas Jefferson gave us the only anecdote to fix all our political problems and we continue to ignore his formula to restore our country.
They don't know the first thing about leadership. To them it's all about feeding their egos. They want to be Mr Big and have all the perks. The problem is many idiots are all too willing to follow them because they are so easy to manipulate. A leader is more of a servant than any personal servant he might have. And he better know WTF he's doing. ------------------------------------------ Checkmate. ------------------------------------------ Just because it doesn't have enough members does not mean it is not being read by non-members. You'd really be surprised to know there are those who do lurk on this forum and are members of the press but cannot post comments because they are being watched by their superiors.
I was not at the Laker game but I was downtown L.A. that evening coming back from Clifton's Cafeteria and working on a federal lawsuit in the Roy Ball Building law library. Yes, I do remember that cbs 2 newsvan fire. It took place downtown L.A. and from what I watched, thugs and such were observed jumping on top and kicking and smashing the newsvan windows and one of the punks set fire to it causing a major chaotic situation. The van exploded into balls of fire. It was crazy and one never to be forgotten.
I like to think I have a positive influence, sweetie. All I remember is I was trying very hard to get the hell out of the subway which was packed with SWAT officers. I was not in a good mood as I had a raging migraine and the last thing I wanted to do was vomit all over an officer. I had official business to deal with and was on my way to the U.S. Dept of Justice FBI office trying to get somebody to review a formal complaint I had filed six months prior. I finally did get somebody in the Dept of Justice to sit their ass down and review my complaint with me. Then, I was "politely" escorted by their security. To me it was like the personal "FU" treatment when you actually confront them face-to-face to do their job.
So does everyone else think the same. Has any of your words caused them to reverse the Patriot Act, stop any of our empire building, stopped the voting chicanery, and or closed down the Federal Reserve? Just who do you think your words are influencing?
Well, LAPD lied. It did happen. Here's the scoop straight from CBS news crew.
You ;) i'd love to read that and be updated on his response to it, if any. Three grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for.
Edgar J. Steele a case in point
Three grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for.
no. ;) Three grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for.
GOOD LUCK i'm sitting here giggling at that. Three grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for.
i'm laughing out loud at that too. :P Three grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for.
hahahahaaha what a great thread this is. enjoying myself silly. Three grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for.
oh boy...you're at it again, eh? tell us, ambi, just what are you doing other than criticizing everyone else for what they're not doing?
Three grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for.
If you hold that comment to be true, sir or ma'am, then your sights are set way too low. The only targets which matter are those found here: Once the heads are severed from the hydra the corpse can be easily skinned. ‘Gentlemen, if you’ve ever thought about it, the quality of a man’s life is directly proportionate to his commitment to excellence.’ ~Vince Lombardi
here's an anecdote for you. as you probably remember, i have a Ron Paul decal on the rear window of my SUV. several months ago, a fellow dance student noticed it out in the parking lot and asked, "Ron Paul, really? He's out there isn't he?" i said, if wanting to restore the republic is out there, then i guess so. i saw him yesterday in the parking lot of another dance studio and he said that he noticed Ron Paul and wondered what i was doing there. then he asked, is Ron Paul still running and i answered, oh yes, as a matter of fact he spoke at UT the other day and garnered a crowd of over 6000. then he said, "6000 crazy people," to which i replied, yep, and i'm one of them. Three grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for.
He would be the last to admit he is brain washed and programmed. Repeating what has been implanted in his brain.
So if you are a supporter of restoring the republic that makes you nuts? Count me in!
i bet he's an obama voter. i didn't ask because i don't want to know. then i would have to hate him. ;)
Three grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for.
The others sat on their hands, did nothing or AIDED THE BRITS. I heard it was even less than that, something like 3 percent. It doesn't take a majority to win a war, it takes a minority that is willing to die for freedom. The main reason there has been no revolution yet is because people still are relatively doing well and they value that over their dwindling freedoms. Somewhat content slaves don't revolt, that is why there has been no revolution yet. God is always good!
Bingo! That is it for sure. Most would rather put up with their chains as long as they can have a somewhat decent life. Things will have to get much worse before a rebellion occurs, but by that time the elite will be more than ready for it and will put it down with ease. God is always good!
Who do you think your words are influencing on this forum? I admit that this is a small forum member wise, but it comes up in search engines so many more read stuff here than just the members of this forum that post here. Since most people don't even know what the "patriot act" is all about, how can they possibly know if they are for it or against it? They can't! Most are ignorantly for it based on its name alone! The same with the NDAA. Most don't know anything about it and those that have heard its name think it is good based on the name alone. Few know what is in it. The talking heads on TV aren't going to tell them, so we must. What does Ron Paul have, words! Are his words influencing people? Yes they are! His words are not influencing people because of who he is, but rather because of what he says. We can all do what Ron Paul does! We can all educate people about the Federal Reserve, about the unconstitutional bills, about the government coverup of 9/11. We can influence people with words alone just like Ron Paul can. Jesus did many miracles on Earth, but he wasn't hated and killed for them. No, he was hated by the Jews and killed because of his words. He told people he was the Son of God, that he can forgive sins, that they do not need to fear death. The Pharisees knew a people that did not fear death would no longer fear them! They ruled through fear so they decided to kill Jesus to keep their power. Little did they know this was exactly what Jesus knew they would do and that he would conquer death and the need to fear death for all time by sacrificing himself on Earth for our sins! God is always good!
You have to be willing to kill. Let the JBT die for his/her masters. This "be willing to die" crap is for losers. ------------------------------------------ well, one can know about the rothschilds, illuminate . antichrist jews etc but rarely if ever has any direct interaction with them. I was talking about when folks have enough tyranny. the jackboot wont be wearing a yarmulke or skull&bones outfit.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Yes, I highlighted that problem in my initial post to this thread. And if folks square off with the underlings, they'll all eventually end up in the same meat grinder, having solved nothing. Targeting the source of the problem requires more far thought, effort and risk. But that is the only way to completely resolve the situation. ‘Gentlemen, if you’ve ever thought about it, the quality of a man’s life is directly proportionate to his commitment to excellence.’ ~Vince Lombardi
lol, you psyop disinfo agent you...
#57. To: titorite, All (#55)
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#58. To: PSUSA2 (#54)
#59. To: Artisan (#52)
Do you have any examples of such groups in the recent history of our country?
"What basic psychological distortion can be found in every civilization of which we know anything? The only psychological force capable of producing these perversions is morality--the concept of right and wrong. The re-interpretation and eventual eradication of the concept of right and wrong are the belated objectives of nearly all psychotherapy." ~ Dr. G. Brock Chisholm, Psychiatrist, Co-Founder World Federation of Mental Health
#60. To: Artisan (#58)
it is the individual vs the state.
#61. To: Original_Intent (#59)
#62. To: Artisan (#53)
#63. To: Artisan (#58)
#64. To: purplerose (#62)
And I was there when that happened too. I was also there when they held the Democratic Convention in Downtown L.A. too. In fact, it was held in that same month and year.
#65. To: PSUSA2 (#63)
remember Ranch Rescue and Casey Nethercott? Remember how that felon used others against the AZ governor to try and keep him from being extradited back to TX?
I talked to Napolitano, who was the governor at that time. She actually took my call. I called her from the payphone at the Pilot in Avondale as this was going on.
#66. To: Original_Intent (#60)
But powerful groups are made of powerful individuals and the synergy of such a group is greater than the sum of the parts.
#67. To: wudidiz (#57)
Then there are those of us who are rebelling. In our own small but effective way.
#68. To: Artisan (#65)
think it was on RBN. point being that even so called leaders are wankers much of the time.
#69. To: Artisan (#66)
Otherwise, since you acknowledge that groups are always compromised, why do you advocate groups?
#70. To: ambi (#67)
"...This is one little forum that doesn't have enough members to make one iota of a difference..."
#71. To: Artisan (#64)
wow you were at that lakers game? i have audio of it all and did a show on it afterwards. do you remember the burning cbs2 newsvan
#72. To: ambi (#67)
How are you rebelling? Has it done any good?
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#73. To: Artisan (#64)
and i was at the democrat convention too, but that was in august 2000. i saw a lot there too. i got out right before the cops started a riot when rage against the machine played. i saw it coming so i got out of there and by the time i was in my car on the freeway the news reported teargas and rubber bullets flying.
#74. To: wudidiz (#72)
I like to think I have a positive influence, sweetie.
#75. To: Artisan (#64)
i called the lapd spokesman later who denied any of it happened, even though it did.
#76. To: ambi (#74)
Just who do you think your words are influencing?
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#77. To: Artisan (#61)
i met him afterwards, and asked for his email address because I am going to form a response and rebuttal to his GARBAGE.
#78. To: Artisan (#56)
#79. To: Hmmmmm (#36)
Is anybody else ever scared that the thoughts in their head are rational but expressing them isn't.
#80. To: Hmmmmm (#32)
I'd like to join you but unfortunately I have a dental appointment on that day.
#81. To: PSUSA2 (#31)
Was that before or after his ass ended up in a sling? lol
#82. To: Cynicom (#25)
Jethro has lesions. OK???????
#83. To: ambi (#19)
#84. To: Artisan (#58)
it is the individual vs the state
#85. To: Cynicom (#9)
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#86. To: christine (#85)
#87. To: christine (#85)
#88. To: christine (#85)
#89. To: purplerose, Cynicom (#88)
#90. To: Cynicom (#1)
The first Revolution was fought by twenty five per cent of the colonists.
#91. To: wudidiz (#55)
Most of us don't care. We're comfortable. Enough.
#92. To: ambi (#74)
Just who do you think your words are influencing?
#93. To: RickyJ (#90)
I heard it was even less than that, something like 3 percent. It doesn't take a majority to win a war, it takes a minority that is willing to die for freedom.
#94. To: Buzzard (#84)
#95. To: Artisan (#94)
one can know about the rothschilds, illuminate . antichrist jews etc but rarely if ever has any direct interaction with them.
I was talking about when folks have enough tyranny. the jackboot wont be wearing a yarmulke or skull&bones outfit.
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