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Title: Goodbye NDAA, PATRIOT Act, Federal Reserve Act and Wars if Paul Wins Presidency
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URL Source: http://lewrockwell.com/orig13/hull1.1.1.html
Published: May 7, 2012
Author: Ruth Hull
Post Date: 2012-05-07 10:39:04 by christine
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Views: 618
Comments: 16

No other Republican Presidential candidate has ever received the enthusiastic popular support in the Republican Stronghold of Orange County that Ron Paul received in his visit to Cal State University, Fullerton, on May 3rd, 2012. 6000 enthusiastic fans crowded into the Titan Stadium, which was not designed to hold 6000. The line stretched around the stadium. Seats ran out, but supporters continued to pile in, standing to see their candidate. Mitt Romney has never received that kind of support in Republican Orange County.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Mitt Romney has never received that kind of support in Republican Orange County.

And Ron Paul WILL endorse Mittless Romney.

The degree may be debatable, not the outcome. Even a NO endorsement would be a positive.

Santorum wanted promises, Newtie wanted money, prior to endorsing Romney. What will be Pauls price? Nothing? Just walk away with millions of dollars spent from loyal supporters?

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-07   10:53:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Santorum wanted promises, Newtie wanted money, prior to endorsing Romney. What will be Pauls price? Nothing? Just walk away with millions of dollars spent from loyal supporters?

My friend, in my early years as an "aware political animal" Ron Paul was the only elected MC that earned the respect of the "filthy ol' tax rebs" and fiercely independent Westerners with who I associated. I was as cynical as the majority about most politicians, Paul being the exception.

So, I don't quite understand why you think he'd pay lip service to American ideals that are nearly lost just for money, when every senator and representative who plays the game stands to amass a fortune while the media, the respective ethics and oversight committees of both houses and their own parties further reward them by keeping the team players' whoring, doping and influence peddling under wraps.

Paul has to live clean and even then they try to make him dance over written comments with which he did not and does not agree that were published in his newsletter 20 years ago.

Paul sure picked a difficult way to rake in the shekels when it would have been a simple matter to open his seine net and let corporations choke it full with tax deductible donations and honoraria.

As you know corporate America (or more precisely, Global Corp LLC) loves to collect politicians like charms on a bracelet. Why would Paul chop his own path through high elephant grass when congress has its own smooth and level Ho Chi Minh trail to carry the boodle off?

I just don't understand your reasons for the things you write.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2012-05-07   11:44:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I just don't understand your reasons for the things you write.

Really quite simple.

Paul IS NOT IN THIS RACE FOR MONEY.

One has to look elsewhere.

This will be Pauls third and final run for the roses.

All WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

Ron has been re elected twelve times as a republican, is now running for president as a republican. I accept his statement that he will always be a republican, one wing of this corrupt government.

Norman Thomas I believe ran for president six times, he is but a tiny footnote in the political history of this country.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-07   11:53:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

All... Norman Thomas...

This gentleman was a Christian Minister, anti communist, anti Zionism anti WW1 and WW2. Below is something he wrote many years ago concerning birth control, white race and cannon fodder, well ahead of his time.

"Thomas also deplored the secular objection to birth control because it originated from "racial and national" group-think. "The white race, we are told, our own nation — whatever that nation may be — is endangered by practicing birth control. Birth control is something like disarmament — a good thing if effected by international agreement, but otherwise dangerous to us in both a military and economic sense. If we are not to be overwhelmed by the 'rising tide of color' we must breed against the world. If our nation is to survive, it must have more cannon and more babies as prospective food for the cannon."

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-07   12:15:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Republican Orange County

I bet it won't be this time.

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Searching... searching... searching
For his master who's long gone on

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-05-07   15:14:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I just don't understand your reasons for the things you write.

It's really very simple. He is a lifelong employee of the federal government and a staunch and outspoken supporter of the Federal Employees Union. In addition to his monthly socialist security check he receives a federal retirement check.

He feels threatened by Ron Paul. He is against everything Ron Paul stands for.

Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

Jesus said, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Evangelical Fundinuts say, "kill them all who will not bow down to the Zionist Jew." - F.A. Hayek Fan

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-05-07   15:26:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Goodbye NDAA, PATRIOT Act, Federal Reserve Act and Wars if Paul Wins Presidency

And how is it a goodbye? He cannot repeal any of these laws. The most he can do is instruct those he appoints to run the various departments to ignore them. However, its a toss up as to whether or not the career bureaucrats like Cynicom would listen or of they would ignore him and carry on. Also, it must be noted that he will have a hostile Congress to deal with - and not just Democrats. He is public enemy number 1 in his own party as well.

No, I'm afraid it will just be a short respite from the two party tyranny. Even if the two parties and their MIC masters don't stage a massive false flag operation they will blame on Dr. Paul, the minute he leaves office it will be business as usual unless we replace Congress with men who have the same mindset as the good doctor.

As for the federal reserve, other than get on his bully pulpit and educate the masses and hope they demand the Congress puts an end to it, I don't think there's a whole lot he can do.. While Nixon gets the blame for taking us off the gold standard, I'm pretty sure it was the Congress that actually did it via legislation and all Nixon did was sign the legislation. I could be wrong though, although I don't think I am. But if anyone can do it it's Dr. Paul. Go Ron!

Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

Jesus said, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Evangelical Fundinuts say, "kill them all who will not bow down to the Zionist Jew." - F.A. Hayek Fan

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-05-07   16:29:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Ron has been re elected twelve times as a republican, is now running for president as a republican.

Wait.... I thought Ron had been a libertarian for decades prior to the switch over to conventional party politics?

I support the occupation
Fuck it if it kills me. Liberty before death.

titorite  posted on  2012-05-07   19:04:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Goodbye NDAA, PATRIOT Act, Federal Reserve Act and Wars if Paul Wins Presidency

And how is it a goodbye? He cannot repeal any of these laws.

You are kinda right... Those are not laws. They are acts. As such the Executive can end those acts at any time he wishes. The DHS is his to dissolve. Many MANY federal organizations are the concoction of former presidents.... all executive actions.... one president really can undo alot legally and constitutionally.

I support the occupation
Fuck it if it kills me. Liberty before death.

titorite  posted on  2012-05-07   19:07:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Wait.... I thought Ron had been a libertarian for decades prior to the switch over to conventional party politics?

Ron Paul is a contradiction in the political arena.

He has pledged his soul to the republican party, many times. That being true, then he is indeed part and parcel of the "system".

This is his third and final go around in politics, thus when the dust settles in November, we will most likely know where he stands vs the system and if he was involved in any deal.

Sleeping with dogs will get one fleas.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-07   21:22:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Cyni, the problem is that the establishment will not allow third party candidates to be on the ballots in most states and, in fact, the same is true of the national debates. Ron Paul is trying to change the party from within and he is using a strategy to obtain delegates for the Republican convention. that's a good strategy and the only one that has a minute chance of succeeding.

Three grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for.

christine  posted on  2012-05-07   21:35:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

now, if the GOP manages to cheat him or pulls some other shenanigans in Tampa, then i would hope that Ron Paul does what you have often suggested. stand up before congress and blast them all for the corruption and then walk out. that would be awesome.

Three grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for.

christine  posted on  2012-05-07   21:38:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Cyni, the problem is that the establishment will not allow third party candidates to be on the ballots in most states

It may have been last week that the Libertarian party said they will be on the ballot in all fifty states.

Johnson, republican, is going to be their candidate. Former Gov of NM I believe.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-07   21:39:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I liked this part...

"Johnson, who ran in the Republican presidential primary before dropping out in December 2011, said during the debate that he would abolish the IRS and the Education Department if he were President. He’s expected to be chosen as the party's nominee."

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-07   21:44:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

He has pledged his soul to the republican party, many times.

From wiki

Ronald Ernest "Ron" Paul (born August 20, 1935) is an American politician who has been the U.S. Representative for Texas's 14th congressional district, which includes Galveston, since 1997, and a three-time candidate for President of the United States, as a Libertarian in 1988 and as a Republican in 2008 and 2012. _____________________________________________________________________________

He has been a libertarian for decades ,.... honestly he is still a libertarian. Everyone knows this. But where your values lie and what your party affiliation lies need not be the same thing. After so many years of trying to do so much as a libertarian he made a political move... one I never thought I'd see. He became a RINO. To win... and that is awesome to me. He has never ever had a better chance than right here and right now....

and right here and now the system is saying that it is against the rules to vote for ron paul..... one more time ... the other politicians and the media hate ron paul and attempt to smear him for following the rules just while at the same time they attempt subvert the entire idea of democracy by saying voting for Ron Paul is against the rules....WHat rule? the rule of civil society?

We are getting into civil war territory here and his campaign is a good canary in a coal mine.... If the paul camp is not allowed in Tampa for whatever imaginary reason... well.... Then their is no republic ... Any that says otherwise would be a liar.... Their USED TO BE a democratic representative republic know as the united states..... I think it died long ago.... Ron Paul wants to save it... if anyone can might be the only one...otherwise I mean what happened in maine was not democracy....nor was it uncommon. THAT IS A BIG PROBLEM! Still Paul came out on top while the romeny camp are now sueing over the paul win there.....despite all the cheating.

Paulll......he is a libertarian... I did not always support him... I used to be very opposed to him. These days...he can do no worse than anyone else.... in fact compare him to all others... IS obama better? How about ROmmney? THink Bush was better? Perhaps you like Kerry? Maybe your a chris christi fan...I am not. I am a Paul fan... I compare Paul to them all and none measure up. Nobody is perfect but he is the epitome of a good public servant. Newt and mit traded barbs about who was a better career politician during the debates.... Somehow that kind of BS came up... like we want another career politician in office. Paul is not that. He remains what the others are supposed to be....

An elected volunteer working for the public interest.

I support the occupation
Fuck it if it kills me. Liberty before death.

titorite  posted on  2012-05-07   23:07:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Few minutes ago I finished reading a list of top twelve possible VP possibilities for Romney. Neither Paul was on the list.

My personal feeling is that Romney "needs" Pauls enthusiastic support, without it we could well be strapped with Obumski for another four. I consider that Ron will support Romney, the degree of warmth is the unknown factor.

As for the honest belief that Ron is educating and enlightening the masses, I would have to disagree. Nine out of ten lower class people do not know what Fed Res is nor who Ron Paul is.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-07   23:20:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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