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Title: Bad for America, Bad for Israel, Bad for the World (Dr. Ron Paul)
Source: antiwar.com
URL Source: http://original.antiwar.com/paul/20 ... -for-israel-bad-for-the-world/
Published: May 10, 2012
Author: Dr. Ron Paul
Post Date: 2012-05-10 08:12:53 by F.A. Hayek Fan
Keywords: None
Views: 1824
Comments: 134

Mr. Speaker: I rise in opposition to H.R. 4133, the United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act, which unfortunately is another piece of one-sided and counterproductive foreign policy legislation. This bill’s real intent seems to be more saber-rattling against Iran and Syria, and it undermines U.S. diplomatic efforts by making clear that the U.S. is not an honest broker seeking peace for the Middle East.

The bill calls for the United States to significantly increase our provision of sophisticated weaponry to Israel, and states that it is to be U.S. policy to “help Israel preserve its qualitative military edge” in the region.

While I absolutely believe that Israel — and any other nation — should be free to determine for itself what is necessary for its national security, I do not believe that those decisions should be underwritten by U.S. taxpayers and backed up by the U.S. military.

This bill states that it is the policy of the United States to “reaffirm the enduring commitment of the United States to the security of the State of Israel as a Jewish state.” However, according to our Constitution, the policy of the United States government should be to protect the security of the United States, not to guarantee the religious, ethnic, or cultural composition of a foreign country. In fact, our own Constitution prohibits the establishment of any particular religion in the U.S.

More than 20 years after the reason for NATO’s existence — the Warsaw Pact — has disappeared, this legislation seeks to find a new mission for that anachronistic alliance: the defense of Israel. Calling for “an expanded role for Israel within the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), including an enhanced presence at NATO headquarters and exercises,” it reads like a dream for interventionists and the military-industrial complex. As I have said many times, NATO should be disbanded, not expanded.

This bill will not help the United States, it will not help Israel, and it will not help the Middle East. It will implicitly authorize much more U.S. interventionism in the region at a time when we cannot afford the foreign commitments we already have. It more likely will lead to war against Syria, Iran, or both. I urge my colleagues to vote against this bill.

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#1. To: F.A. Hayek Fan, 4 (#0)

This bill states that it is the policy of the United States to “reaffirm the enduring commitment of the United States to the security of the State of Israel as a Jewish state.” However, according to our Constitution, the policy of the United States government should be to protect the security of the United States, not to guarantee the religious, ethnic, or cultural composition of a foreign country. In fact, our own Constitution prohibits the establishment of any particular religion in the U.S.

This is such a simple and well articulated point.

It's no wonder RP wasn't invited to speak before influential Jewish groups this past December.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-05-10   8:31:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

While I absolutely believe that Israel — and any other nation — should be free to determine for itself what is necessary for its national security, I do not believe that those decisions should be underwritten by U.S. taxpayers and backed up by the U.S. military.

This is such a simple and well articulated point.

I agree with you.

However, being a cynic, I must look beyond the correctness of the statement, and ask myself, why has Ron Paul been reelected twelve times, run for president three times, always with an anti ISRAEL agenda and is tolerated and ignored? No combined effort by anyone to rid the Congress of such a person?

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-10   9:11:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom, 4um (#2)

Cyni, I'm sensing that your well founded cynicism has morphed into a personal dislike, which tends to shade your opinion of RP from criticism to harshness. He's a good man, he has a solid message and this run isn't anything like '08. It's far better and he's staying in it till the end. He has grabbed the interest of some in the younger set and hopes of a movement far larger than one man is a possibility. Since no one I know is willing to stick a rifle out of their window yet, he's about the best we got right now.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-05-10   9:39:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Jethro Tull (#3)

personal dislike,

You need a new sensor young man.

I suspect we all will have a different perspective on Ron Paul by November. I will not be shocked at whatever course he takes, you may well be.

We have to remember, Romney CANNOT WIN WITHOUT Ron Paul being for or neutral. A negative Paul and we have the black queer again. Wish and reality are NOT bed mates.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-10   9:59:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#5)

We have to remember, Romney CANNOT WIN WITHOUT Ron Paul being for or neutral. A negative Paul and we have the black queer again.

Your suggestion here is that RP, for the good of the party, will toss aside his principles for a Republican victory. I can honestly say you are nearly alone in your assessment for a number of reasons, the main one being fellow Rs despise him and an endorsement would not only cripple all RP has tried to build, but also it would hamstring his son's future, one you feel strongly is tied to his presidential run. Cyni, IMO he isn't going to Tampa with his delegates to back Romney.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-05-10   10:14:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jethro Tull (#7)

Your suggestion here is that RP, for the good of the party, will toss aside his principles for a Republican victory. I can honestly say you are nearly alone in your assessment for a number of reasons, the main one being fellow Rs despise him and an endorsement would not only cripple all RP has tried to build, but also it would hamstring his son's future, one you feel strongly is tied to his presidential run. Cyni, IMO he isn't going to Tampa with his delegates to back Romney.

1) He (or rather his delegates) may fight in Tampa, but when the nomination process is over and done, Paul will endorse Romney.

2) Paul's not trying to build or destroy anything. My dog has more will to power than Paul. Corollary: Paul does not care that a Romney endorsement will hurt his "cause." He simply does not understand.

3) A Romney endorsement will help Paul Jr., because most Paul Jr. voters will vote for Romney. Do you seriously think Paul Jr. himself isn't going to endorse Romney after Romney secures the nomination? Paul Jr. is less radical than daddy.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-05-10   10:37:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Prefrontal Vortex, Jethro Tull (#13)

Paul Jr. is less radical than daddy.

Since Rand arrived I have taken care to read as much about his views as possible.

Rand tells us that "big labor" is to blame for the national debt, to blame for the deficit, to blame for lack of jobs, etc etc.

Thats fair but he neglects to tell his readers that big labor is now but eight per cent of the American work force.......

He is for all right to work laws as workers have no rights, then he announces that "doctors have the right to earn a COMFORTABLE living.

Paul has made a deal. If not I maintain the right to use as much ketchup as I like while eating crow.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-10   10:47:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom, 4um (#15)

He is for all right to work laws as workers have no rights, then he announces that "doctors have the right to earn a COMFORTABLE living.

Paul has made a deal. If not I maintain the right to use as much ketchup as I like while eating crow.

As I've said before, I haven't followed Rand Paul so I haven't a clue what his policies are. I do feel that the movement RP is building won't fit comfortably on the foot of just anyone, including his son. The young people, and the growing number of vets aren't party pods and leadership will have to be earned, not handed down which is the essence of elitism.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-05-10   10:58:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jethro Tull (#18)

The young people, and the growing number of vets aren't party pods and leadership will have to be earned, not handed down which is the essence of elitism.

That is true, and that's another reason I don't think Paul has made a deal.

A Paul endorsement won't actually help Romney much.

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This communication from Paul about this bill is 100% establishment respectable.

It is not revolutionary. It is not heretical.

HERESY would be basically the same communication, except to OMIT whether it's good for Israel.

HERESY would then be, when asked whether it's bad for Israel, to say "I don't know." Period.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-05-10   11:22:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#24)

A Paul endorsement won't actually help Romney much.

That being the case, what would be the effect of a neutral stance or vocal opposition?

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-10   11:29:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#25)

Not much besides maybe hurting Jr.

But Paul will endorse Romney out of a sense of duty to the country.

If Paul actually did have some will to power, more people on the left would bolt his way.

Most Paul supporters are of no use to anybody but Paul. It's either Paul or stay home.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-05-10   12:47:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#27)

But Paul will endorse Romney out of a sense of duty to the country.

Has Paul's duty morphed a 180 since he refused to back McCain?

abraxas  posted on  2012-05-10   14:30:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: abraxas (#33)

Hey, I could be wrong. But the choices are not the same this time.

Foreign policy not much difference; Romney will save money.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-05-10   18:22:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#37)

Romney will save money.

lol.....how so? Does he have a plan to cut empire that I'm not privy too? Does he have a plan to snuff out the corporate oligarchy that is rotting the federal government to the core?

Did he claim he is going to cut spending someplace? Anyplace?

He's going to campaign against gay marriage......this is the big clue that nothing will change in regards to this bankrupt nation spending like Imelda Marcos in a shoe store.

Save money...that's a good one! : )

abraxas  posted on  2012-05-10   23:01:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: abraxas (#38)

Did he claim he is going to cut spending someplace?

Ah well. That's different.

But I take your point in the general sense that the purpose of "conservatives" is to secure the last revolution won by the left.

He'll approve a pipeline Obama won't or something. Mo money.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-05-11   2:16:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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