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Title: Bad for America, Bad for Israel, Bad for the World (Dr. Ron Paul)
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URL Source: http://original.antiwar.com/paul/20 ... -for-israel-bad-for-the-world/
Published: May 10, 2012
Author: Dr. Ron Paul
Post Date: 2012-05-10 08:12:53 by F.A. Hayek Fan
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Mr. Speaker: I rise in opposition to H.R. 4133, the United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act, which unfortunately is another piece of one-sided and counterproductive foreign policy legislation. This bill’s real intent seems to be more saber-rattling against Iran and Syria, and it undermines U.S. diplomatic efforts by making clear that the U.S. is not an honest broker seeking peace for the Middle East. The bill calls for the United States to significantly increase our provision of sophisticated weaponry to Israel, and states that it is to be U.S. policy to “help Israel preserve its qualitative military edge” in the region. While I absolutely believe that Israel — and any other nation — should be free to determine for itself what is necessary for its national security, I do not believe that those decisions should be underwritten by U.S. taxpayers and backed up by the U.S. military. This bill states that it is the policy of the United States to “reaffirm the enduring commitment of the United States to the security of the State of Israel as a Jewish state.” However, according to our Constitution, the policy of the United States government should be to protect the security of the United States, not to guarantee the religious, ethnic, or cultural composition of a foreign country. In fact, our own Constitution prohibits the establishment of any particular religion in the U.S. More than 20 years after the reason for NATO’s existence — the Warsaw Pact — has disappeared, this legislation seeks to find a new mission for that anachronistic alliance: the defense of Israel. Calling for “an expanded role for Israel within the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), including an enhanced presence at NATO headquarters and exercises,” it reads like a dream for interventionists and the military-industrial complex. As I have said many times, NATO should be disbanded, not expanded. This bill will not help the United States, it will not help Israel, and it will not help the Middle East. It will implicitly authorize much more U.S. interventionism in the region at a time when we cannot afford the foreign commitments we already have. It more likely will lead to war against Syria, Iran, or both. I urge my colleagues to vote against this bill.
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#79. To: Original_Intent, 4um (#76)
This entire gay marriage thing is entirely about economics and insurance. Nobody in their right (middle aged) mind wants to get married to anything; a piece of paper means diddly as far as keeping a loving, or dysfunctional couple together. This argument is about a tax deduction, shared medical insurance and inheritance, should their be any upon the death of a significant other. If the various states settle the economic/insurance matter, this non issue goes away IMO.
You're right as far as the economic questions go. But this thing has become a cultural pissing contest and has acquired political utility on both sides of the issue. Therefore, both sides will bang the hell out of it as long and as hard as humanly possible. On the contrary, presidential politics, all within the anti-white framework, IS sitting it out.
An old lonely slave comes back from the grave Not rubes, no. No matter what Paul said to HIMSELF when he decided to run, that was not his goal. An old lonely slave comes back from the grave If all the Paulites on this forum are sincere in their beliefs and their political protestations, it would seem to an impartial viewer, that they would be supporting Bob Johnson en masse, as soon as Romney is coronated????? That being true, I would be happy to lemming along with them.
I don't know about this Bob Johnson character......but if the two party fraud offers two frauds--Obama and Romney--and call this farce a choice, I'll be voting for Gary Johnson on the Libertarian Ticket. : ) " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
I think it is entirely diversion and divide. " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
You and I both. Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown Jesus said, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Evangelical Fundinuts say, "kill them all who will not bow down to the Zionist Jew." - F.A. Hayek Fan
If Johnson is on the ballot here in PA, I'll join you all.
Well, that makes TWO of us and I will BE TICKED OFF IF PAUL DOES NOT ENDORSE JOHNSON. As for the rest of our friends here, after Ron kisses Mitt, they will swoon and vote REPUBLICAN.
But, Cyni my dear, you are already ticked off at Dr. Paul, so why is his endorsement so important to you? No, he will not kiss Mitt butt. And, no, liberty minded people will not swoon. " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
You promise??? You realize the black SOB mite well be the President four more years??????
Good heavens... Recall Ron told me and anyone listening four years ago he was a true blue and loyal republican forever. I stopped giving money with the Trotski memo. Now his son is a true blue republican and I have distinct dislike for members of the one party system. You send a note to Ron, endorse Johnson now and hit the campaign trail for him.
I'm with the good Dr. until the RNC convention in Tampa is convened. After that, depending on the outcome, I may join Gary Johnson's campaign. : ) " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
From your fingertips to God's mouth truth. Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson Are you prepared to accept Ron smooching with Mitt and ENDORSING HIM. If Jethro is correct, Ron has not endorsed anyone and in this case withholding endorsement may well give us Obomski for four more????? Myself, I intend to go into the Crying Towel business just before the convention, making sales to all my loyal Paul supporters. hehehehehehehe
Never heard of him. An old lonely slave comes back from the grave Unseen and unknown numbers of Paul supporters will indeed vote for Romney, most likely not enough to throw Obama out. My thinking is that Paul COULD ENSURE THAT THE BLACK MAN LEAVES.
Gov NM. Know near zero about him.
I'd rather the kenyan, and his fat-assed wookie, stay put than have willard and his wench have an eight year go at us.
Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson NEVERTHELESS, our own CONgress passed the antiChrist, Satanic Noahide Laws that America is set up to enforce. Thursday, May 10, 2012 Examining Israel's Role in the NOAHIDE LAWS And Christian Genocide Worldwide http://americanholocaustcoming.blogspot.com/ Excerpt: "....the Sanhedrin based out of Jerusalem believe in and support mass Christian genocide, both in Jerusalem, throughout Israel, and in fact worldwide. After all, they are a WORLDWIDE court. It is their full intention to impose the Noahide Laws demands upon every nation, as admitted in their literature and website. To behead untold millions of Christians worldwide, and throughout Israel/Palestine as well, you must have practical means to fulfill this. Such mass beheadings require the use of THE MODERN MILITARY GUILLOTINES that I have been documenting for 17 years now. Such worldwide demands for mass executions would also require enlisting the aid of military forces worldwide as a practical measure. This has already happened covertly in America, using American tax dollars, and without the knowledge or consent of the vast majority of her people and her endangered Christian population.... Since the Jews and Sanhedrin court based out of Jerusalem, Israel, fully intend to behead all Christian offenders under their Noahide Laws, do you think that Israel's leaders and the Sanhedrin in Jerusalem are somehow ignorant of the modern military guillotines created only for this distinct purpose, including those military guillotines documented to be in AMERICA?? The Noahide Laws in America were presented by Lubavitch Chabad in Washington DC to the Senate and House, and through deceitful efforts (as explained by former Congressman Dannemeyer) [ http://www.takebackourrights.org...ristians-full%20page.html / http://www.takebackourrights.org/docs/noahidelaw.html ] were secretly passed, and then signed into actual legislation by President G. W. Bush. What legitimate place in American legislation does this deadly, distinctly anti-American,anti-religious freedom and anti-Christian legislation have? According to our Constitution and the first Amendment, NONE! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It is distinctly Jewish in origin, with it's presiding Sanhedrin in Jerusalem, Israel. Which means it is NOT American, nor does it have any right to gravely endanger the right of religious freedoms and RIGHT TO LIFE of millions of American Christians! Palestinian and Israeli Christians must ask: What does Israel plan to do to the Palestinian/Israeli Christians under the Noahide Laws? What do they plan to do to the other Christians living in Israel under the Noahide Laws? My military sources revealed the modern guillotines are now found worldwide. And if these guillotines to fulfill Noahide Laws demands are already present in North America, would they not certainly be present in ISRAEL, from whence these Noahide Laws and their world court emanates? Since the Noahide Laws court is based out of Jerusalem, Israel, what role do you think Israel and her government must play in supporting the Noahide Laws? Due to Israel's close ties with America and the American government, also ties through their dual citizenship people in the American government (whose first loyalty is to the Jews and Israel,) plus the fact that the Noahide Laws are Jewish in origin....we are compelled to ask: what is Israel's hidden role in the enforcement of the coming genocide of America's Christians under their Noahide Laws? These are realistic and serious questions that must be asked by endangered Christians, both in America, in Israel/Palestine, and throughout the world. THE NOAHIDE LAWS THREAT TO CHRISTIAN EXISTENCE IS REAL. WHILE MASQUERADING AS A TOOL FOR WORLD PEACE, THE IMPOSITION AND ENFORCEMENT OF THE NOAHIDE LAWS PRESENTS A CLEAR PLAN FOR CHRISTIAN GENOCIDE WORLDWIDE, TO ADVANCE OBVIOUSLY JEWISH ZIONIST PLANS FOR WORLD DOMINION AND REMOVE THE CHRISTIAN OBSTACLE......" Let's not forget Obama can pick us up for any reason, assassinate us, or DEPORT US, SAY TO THE SANHEDRIN IN "THE JEWISH STATE OF ISRAEL" [ http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=193 ], AND ZOG WANTS US TO PAY FOR IT TOO. ==================== (Video)High Level Insider: DHS Preparing to Start A Civil War 'FEMA Coffins' Being Moved Northbound On Georgia Highway 5-8-2012 at Before It's News: CIA HQ Insider: 30,000-100,000 Russian Troops Scheduled to Arrive in America Within the Next 7 Months. etc. etc. etc. "...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Vote Obama! An old lonely slave comes back from the grave Both are part and parcel of the system. Big choice, do we want to be shot or hung. As of now, I will have to register and vote for Johnson, or do nothing and stay home. Not much of a choice.
Gary Johnson - Ex Governor of NM
"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests." The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.
Therein lies the problem Ron Paul has. Of the masses, not one in a hundred knows WHO OR WHAT THE FED IS. The Fed is the greatest evil in this country and has been so for 100 years now. There is no way in hell that Paul or anyone else is ever going to be President campaigning against the Fed. Wont happen. If Paul were a rabble rouser and could carry the masses on simple things they understand, he would have a chance. Taking the high ground will never work. Gentleman and politician does not fit in the same sentence.
David Ben Gurion – “In Jerusalem will be the seat of the Supreme Court of Mankind” Rothschild - The Israeli Supreme Court Building 7 Noahide Laws, one is against "Blasphemy" which is code for Christianity....another is the requirement "to establish courts of justice". All "blasphemers" [Christians] to be executed ....by beheading. Merry Christmas, AND OFF WITH YOUR HEAD! "...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
I think it is entirely diversion and divide. I think you are both correct. Different groups with different agendas. The homos are pushing it for material gain and the hidden order is pushing it to disrupt and degrade our society. No, it's not. That's why RP's message of Freedom, Peace, and Prosperity resonates with so many. Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson Yes, and the majority of society has to listen to the endless, mind numbing bullshit until comatose. "The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests." The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.
Yes, and the majority of society has to listen to the endless, mind numbing bullshit until comatose. Agreed. I get so tired of listening to fags complaining about being discriminated against because they are freaking whiney perverts. They can bugger each other as much as they want and I don't care. However, when they begin to try and shove their neuroses down MY throat I do care. By replacing him with a pseudo conservative globalist puppet JUST LIKE THE BLACK MAN? Ensuring ObamaLite and pretending it is some grand improvement is WORTHLESS, IMHO. " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
Oh no you don't........you pick a side derb nub it!! lol : ) You're either with us or against us, Patriot. " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
I'd rather have a thousand needles poked in my butt than endure either scenario! " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
Exactly... If you vote, you are part of the system. Obama was created for a reason, being President was not the main agenda.
Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson I'd rather have a thousand needles poked in my butt than endure either scenario! Ooooooo! Kinky. What I want to know is would the real cynic please stand up? At the very least, anyone that has participated in this thread will not be surprised at whatever transpires at the convention. After the smoke clears, everyone here will be aware of deals made. I still say odds favor Paul will endorse Rummy. Kisses and smoochies all around.
Thanks Loddy! : )
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
I was thinking serious acupuncture to cure the pain in the ass that will result in the election of either puppet candidate "front runners" in 2012. : ) Great gif though! lol " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
Huh?? You just said RP should endorse Johnson and that you'd vote for him.
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#80. To: Jethro Tull (#79)
#81. To: Jethro Tull (#72)
Searching... searching... searching
For his master who's long gone on
#82. To: Cynicom (#75)
I hate to think they are all Rubes??????
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For his master who's long gone on
#83. To: Prefrontal Vortex, Jethro tull, Abraxas, Christine, Assorted Rubes, (#82)
#84. To: Cynicom, Prefrontal Vortex, Jethro tull, Unsorted Rubes (#83)
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that they would be supporting Bob Johnson en masse, as soon as Romney is coronated?????
#85. To: Jethro Tull, Original_Intent, 4um (#79)
This entire gay marriage thing is entirely about economics and insurance.
#86. To: abraxas (#84)
I don't know about this Bob Johnson character......but if the two party frauds offers two frauds--Obama and Romney--and calls it a choice, I'll be voting for Gary Johnson on the Libertarian Ticket. : )
#87. To: abraxas, Cynicom, Prefrontal Vortex, Rubicons (#84)
#88. To: Prefrontal Vortex, Jethro tull, Abraxas, Christine, Assorted Rubes, (#84)
I'll be voting for Gary Johnson on the Libertarian Ticket. : )
#89. To: Cynicom (#88)
I will BE TICKED OFF IF PAUL DOES NOT ENDORSE JOHNSON.
#90. To: Jethro Tull (#87)
If Johnson is on the ballot here in PA, I'll join you all.
#91. To: abraxas (#89)
But, Cyni my dear, you are already ticked off at Dr. Paul, so why is his endorsement so important to you?
#92. To: Cynicom (#91)
You send a note to Ron, endorse Johnson now and hit the campaign trail for him.
#93. To: abraxas (#89)
But, Cyni my dear, you are already ticked off at Dr. Paul, so why is his endorsement so important to you? No, he will not kiss Mitt butt. And, no, liberty minded people will not swoon.
#94. To: Prefrontal Vortex, Jethro tull, Christine, Assorted Rubes, (#92)
. After that, depending on the outcome, I may join Gary Johnson's campaign. : )
#95. To: Cynicom (#83)
Bob Johnson
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#96. To: Lod, abraxas (#93)
No, he will not kiss Mitt butt.
#97. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#95)
Never heard of him.
#98. To: Cynicom (#96)
#99. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)
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This bill states that it is the policy of the United States to “reaffirm the enduring commitment of the United States to the security of the State of Israel as a Jewish state.” However, according to our Constitution, the policy of the United States government should be to protect the security of the United States, not to guarantee the religious, ethnic, or cultural composition of a foreign country. In fact, our own Constitution prohibits the establishment of any particular religion in the U.S.
freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...i?ArtNum=146117&Disp=2#C2
www.thomhartmann.com/foru...-georgia-highway-5-8-2012
#100. To: Lod (#98)
I'd rather the kenyan
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For his master who's long gone on
#101. To: Lod (#98)
I'd rather the kenyan, and his fat-assed wookie
#102. To: Cynicom (#97)
#103. To: noone222 (#102)
"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system
#104. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)
... www.gnosticliberationfron...__the_israeli_supreme.htm
www.public-action.com/christmas.html
#105. To: abraxas, Jethro Tull (#85)
This entire gay marriage thing is entirely about economics and insurance.
#106. To: Cynicom (#101)
As of now, I will have to register and vote for Johnson, or do nothing and stay home. Not much of a choice.
#107. To: Original_Intent (#105)
Different groups with different agendas. The homos are pushing it for material gain and the hidden order is pushing it to disrupt and degrade our society.
#108. To: noone222 (#107)
Different groups with different agendas. The homos are pushing it for material gain and the hidden order is pushing it to disrupt and degrade our society.
#109. To: Cynicom (#96)
My thinking is that Paul COULD ENSURE THAT THE BLACK MAN LEAVES.
#110. To: Original_Intent, Jethro (#105)
I think you are both correct. Different groups with different agendas. The homos are pushing it for material gain and the hidden order is pushing it to disrupt and degrade our society.
#111. To: Lod (#98)
I'd rather the kenyan, and his fat-assed wookie, stay put than have willard and his wench have an eight year go at us.
#112. To: abraxas (#109)
By replacing him with a pseudo conservative globalist puppet JUST LIKE THE BLACK MAN?
#113. To: abraxas (#111)
just for you -
#114. To: abraxas, Lod, farmfriend (#111)
I'd rather the kenyan, and his fat-assed wookie, stay put than have willard and his wench have an eight year go at us.
#115. To: abraxas, Cynicom (#109)
Ensuring ObamaLite and pretending it is some grand improvement is WORTHLESS, IMHO.
#116. To: Original_Intent, Jethro Tull (#115)
What I want to know is would the real cynic please stand up?
#117. To: Lod (#113)
#118. To: Original_Intent, Lod, farmfriend (#114)
#119. To: Cynicom (#112)
If you vote, you are part of the system.
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