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Title: Cop Kicks Pregnant Woman In Stomach, Dept. Says He Was Within Policy
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URL Source: http://loop21.com/life/cop-kicks-pregnant-woman-stomach
Published: May 11, 2012
Author: Maurice Garland
Post Date: 2012-05-11 01:43:12 by farmfriend
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Cop Kicks Pregnant Woman In Stomach, Dept. Says He Was Within Policy

By Maurice Garland
2:02 PM May 10th, 2012

Officer says he didn't know the woman was pregnant.

Just when you thought the police ran out of ways to disgust you.

Dekalb County police officer Jerad Wheeler was called to a home to settle a domestic dispute involving a pregnant woman named Raven Dozier, her brother and his child and baby's mother.

As things escalated Wheeler pulled out his taser and used it on Dozier's brother. She says that's when she started crying and asking the officer why he used a taser on her brother.

Wheeler must not have been in a talking mood because after he used the taser on him, he then kicked Dozier in the stomach.

"I think he really just didn't want me asking him any questions, questioning him, and when I did question him is when he kicked me," she tells Atlanta's Channel 2 Action News. "I was upset because I couldn't believe an officer would kick me, with my child in my stomach."

Dozier was almost nine months pregnant and wound up giving birth via an emergency C-section two weeks after the kick left a bruise. The now 4-month old baby was born and is healthy.

"What kind of a human being kicks a pregnant woman?" says Dozier's attorney Mark Bullman. "I mean, forget whether or not it is a police officer that is supposedly protecting people."

Officer Wheeler says that he couldn't tell that Dozier was pregnant and that he only kicked her because she came at him aggressively. He also described the kick as "a front push kick to the abdomen, as he was taught to do at the academy," in his police report.

On top of getting kicked in the stomach, Dozier was also charged with obstruction, a charge that was later dropped. She also filed a complaint with the Dekalb County Police Department, but the matter was never investigated and they said that Officer Wheeler's actions were within department policy.

This isn't the first time Wheeler has acted questionably. In 2011, he was accused of manhandling a 53-year old woman, twisting her arm behind her back and shoving her face down into a patrol car. She says she was only trying to check on her grandchildren who had just got in a car wreck with their mother. This past January, Wheeler was accused of showing up to the wrong address when called, and then shooting that family's dog.

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#1. To: farmfriend (#0)

In the past people would hang the mayor, district attorney, chief of police to stop this corrosive corruption.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith

tom007  posted on  2012-05-11   2:40:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: tom007 (#1)

a few hangings would stop this crap real quick. cops going to jail would too but I'm not going to hold my breath on either one.


Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?

farmfriend  posted on  2012-05-11   2:42:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: tom007 (#1) (Edited)

In the past people would hang the mayor, district attorney, chief of police to stop this corrosive corruption.

In the past......

I know... and agree..

These days .... we need to organize better flash mobs fuck this... someone still needs to swing from a knot... twitter is not being used right. A deadly man hideing behind a badge is free to roam tonight.... we just aint using this twitter right.


I support the occupation
Fuck it if it kills me. Liberty before death.

titorite  posted on  2012-05-11   5:34:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: farmfriend (#0)

but the matter was never investigated

what state is this in? if she filed a complaint, why was it not investigated? most departments discourage people from filing real complaints. Not that i trust pigs to be impartial, but people must file actual complaints, not just jibber on the phone.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-05-11   5:49:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Artisan (#4)

what state is this in?

Wheeler works for the DeKalb County Police Department in the state of Georgia.

Pet peeve of mine. Journalists are used to writing local stories for local consumption and haven't caught on to the fact that the moment a story is published, it pops up in all kinds of places thousands miles away where nobody knows from Adam where the hell DeKalb County is.

RT says that Wheeler is under criminal investigation.

"Four months after the incident, WSBTV confirms that Officer Wheeler is under a criminal probe for the incident. When Ms. Dozier initially filed a complaint, however, the police department dismissed her allegations, refused an investigation and OK’d the officer’s actions. At least four supervisors and an internal affairs detective subsequently approved of Wheeler’s actions and agreed that the attack was within the department’s use of force policy." - http://rt.com/usa/news/pregnant-kick-wheeler-dozier-955

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-05-11   7:22:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: farmfriend (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

America: Israel's Handmaiden

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-05-11   7:47:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: farmfriend (#2)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

America: Israel's Handmaiden

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-05-11   8:07:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: farmfriend (#0)

On top of getting kicked in the stomach, Dozier was also charged with obstruction, a charge that was later dropped. She also filed a complaint with the Dekalb County Police Department, but the matter was never investigated and they said that Officer Wheeler's actions were within department policy.

Then the department needs to change its policy. Once again I will point out that this is a local issue which can easily be handled by the people banning together and demanding change. They have the power to get the sheriff and the whole damned leadership fired if they'd just use it.

Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

Jesus said, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Evangelical Fundinuts say, "kill them all who will not bow down to the Zionist Jew." - F.A. Hayek Fan

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-05-11   8:08:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: farmfriend (#2)

a few hangings would stop this crap real quick. cops going to jail would too but I'm not going to hold my breath on either one.

Putting a bullet into the brain of their wives and children while they watch would do it even better.

Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

Jesus said, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Evangelical Fundinuts say, "kill them all who will not bow down to the Zionist Jew." - F.A. Hayek Fan

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-05-11   8:09:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: randge (#5)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

America: Israel's Handmaiden

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-05-11   8:11:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Eric Stratton (#10)

Sometimes a person needs to be subdued because they're becoming a danger to themselves or others. You'd think that with all the martial arts training lots of these guys do, they would know how to handle situation like these in a safe and fair manner. They seem to be in love with the fancy devices that they carry around, however, and they love to torture subjects with these tasers and whatever else they have on their belts. When the batteries wear out, they just use them to bash their victims' faces in.

We need to take these damned things away from cops.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-05-11   8:45:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: farmfriend (#0)

Cop Kicks Pregnant Woman In Stomach, Dept. Says He Was Within Policy

probably trained by the ADL. Where are they when you need them?

Commending Dekalb Authorities for Arresting "Terrorists" [Alleged Sovereign Citizen Cell].

http://www.adl.org/PresRele/Extremism_72/5835_72.htm

iamthewitness.com/ADL_trains_US_Police.html

wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/6887

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-05-11   11:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: randge (#11)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

America: Israel's Handmaiden

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-05-11   13:50:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Eric Stratton (#13)

I'm not much on Houston cops, but the deputies and constables out our way are pretty good. They're respectful and professional and look like men that belong in a uniform. Even the older ones - and there seem to be a good number on the Harris County payroll - look fit.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-05-11   13:59:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Artisan (#4)

it was not investigated because filing a complaint with the police is complaining. to get action one must file criminal charges with the county attorney. in Texas as police are public servants all criminal complaints filed with the county must be presented to the grand jury. when the county attorney fails to file the charges (against any public servant) with the grand jury charges should be filed against the county attorney with the district judge for shielding from prosecution. should the district judge fail to act upon the criminal complaint file charges against him with the DA.


If either Moromney or Mammyjammyobammy win the November (s)election peoples with common sense will pray that December 21 2012 will indeed be the end of the world!

IRTorqued  posted on  2012-05-11   14:14:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: randge (#14)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

America: Israel's Handmaiden

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-05-11   15:21:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: IRTorqued (#15)

it was not investigated because filing a complaint with the police is complaining. to get action one must file criminal charges with the county attorney. in Texas as police are public servants all criminal complaints filed with the county must be presented to the grand jury. when the county attorney fails to file the charges (against any public servant) with the grand jury charges should be filed against the county attorney with the district judge for shielding from prosecution. should the district judge fail to act upon the criminal complaint file charges against him with the DA.

point taken, but aside from your texas options, there is an important distinction here regarding complaints that most americans should know. When a person calls the local desk sergeant to gripe about a cop, that is not an actual complaint. Actual complaints are done in writing and are indeed investigated (albeit by the pig cop's buddies, who generally cover for each other). However, in most states these complaints are by law kept on file for 5 years. The benefit of this to the public is that #1 it puts the pig on guard, there is something on his record, so that if he in the future abuses/kills another innocent person, it is more damning since he has a track record of doing it.

trust me, police do not like having official complaints filed against them.

As far as the texas options you brought up, i have heard that for years, and it sounds like a fine idea. but i have yet to see proof of any actual successful charges or prosecution of a county attorney or district judge, brought by a grand jury or anyone else. I'm not saying it hasnt happened, but is there any proof of it? any prosecutions or civil payouts? Give me just ONE. one name. I see people tout this tactic but if there is not even one documented example of it, then sorry to say, but they are full of shit. And if they HAVE indeed been successful, even ONCE, after years of touting their tactic, then why havent they shown any proof of their victory? it does not make sense. at all.

It's kind of like those "sovereign man on the land" arguements - again, i love that idea- where people claim they went into court claiming the court had lack of political jurisdiction, and walked out scott free. But let's see some proof of it, otherwise its just unsubstanciated heresay. Actual legal victories have an easily trackable record.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-05-12   1:34:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: randge (#5)

thanks for that. since the original article claimed

She also filed a complaint with the Dekalb County Police Department, but the matter was never investigated

that is incorrect. the cops' brass giving a pass and ruling that he did nothing wrong is not the same as the citizen complaint never being investigated. bad reporting, as you said.

of the few cops who are ever charged criminally it seems almost none of them are convicted. remember the cop up in orgeon or washington that kicked a young prgnant woman in the stomach and killed her fetus? i dont think he was ever even charged. there is no way that someone should ever be allowed to get away with killing a baby. it is up to the woman's family to defend the right.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-05-12   1:43:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: farmfriend (#0)

On top of getting kicked in the stomach, Dozier was also charged with obstruction, a charge that was later dropped. She also filed a complaint with the Dekalb County Police Department, but the matter was never investigated and they said that Officer Wheeler's actions were within department policy.

It may be true that he didn't know she was pregnant, but she had no weapon and she was a woman. If he couldn't handle her without kicking her then he shouldn't be a cop. She is right, he only kicked her because she asked why he tazed her brother. Just policy huh? Well guess what, we civilized people have a policy too, and it is to punish those that hurt people without a cause.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-05-12   3:28:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: farmfriend (#0)

"Officer says he didn't know the woman was pregnant." and "Dozier was almost nine months pregnant" For fuck's sake...

Facebook's Timeline means people can follow me chronologically having a meltdown over the stupid fucking Timeline!!

irishthatcherite  posted on  2012-05-12   3:51:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: irishthatcherite (#20)

"Officer says he didn't know the woman was pregnant." and "Dozier was almost nine months pregnant" For fuck's sake...

I don't know how it is in Ireland, but over here in the USA there are plenty of women that are so fat that you can't tell if they are pregnant or not.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-05-12   3:57:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: RickyJ (#21)

I don't know how it is in Ireland, but over here in the USA there are plenty of women that are so fat that you can't tell if they are pregnant or not.

Granted, I can only see her face and shoulder region, but she does not look like a fat woman to me:

Facebook's Timeline means people can follow me chronologically having a meltdown over the stupid fucking Timeline!!

irishthatcherite  posted on  2012-05-12   4:02:28 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: irishthatcherite (#22)

No, she isn't fat. That cop had to know she was pregnant. I am surprised she is black though. I thought the media would have made a big deal about a white cop kicking a black pregnant woman in the stomach when she was 9 months pregnant. The cops have some amazing protection here for the media to not make this into a hate crime.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-05-12   4:33:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: RickyJ (#23)

I hate the fact that I am denied the opportunity to kick you in the stomach RickyJ..... Is that a hatecrime?


I support the occupation
Fuck it if it kills me. Liberty before death.

titorite  posted on  2012-05-12   5:20:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: RickyJ, original_intent, jethro tull, irishthatcherite, titorite (#23)

No, she isn't fat. That cop had to know she was pregnant. I am surprised she is black though. I thought the media would have made a big deal about a white cop kicking a black pregnant woman in the stomach when she was 9 months pregnant. The cops have some amazing protection here for the media to not make this into a hate crime.

that is a very interesting point! Here they lie and say that a peruvian jew zimmerman is 'white' when he is not, and try to start race wars over it, and yet when an actual white pig cop commits what would be a so-called ''hate crime'', against a black woman, they give him a pass.

I think that they (the establishment) dont want the public anger to be against cops, but only against each other. well i think that everyone deserves to hear about this cop who kicked a black woman in the stomach to try and kill her baby and then wasnt punished for it. what do you think the masses would say about that if this story went viral?

and thanks to irishthatcherite for the picture, otherwise no one would have known that the victim was black. the news certainly didnt mention it. very interesting lack of selected race pimping here in this story.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-05-12   5:29:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: All, jethro tull, lod, hounddawg (#25)

Trayvon Martin Shooting Range Targets Being Sold Online

This guy is making a fortune selling these targets, lol. I cant help but think that is funny. Why didnt some of the shooters here come up with this idea!

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-05-12   6:32:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Artisan (#25)

Yes, things have changed considerably since the Rodney King incident. Now the public's eyes must be kept away from police brutality, even if there is a ripe story from a race-baiting perspective.

Facebook's Timeline means people can follow me chronologically having a meltdown over the stupid fucking Timeline!!

irishthatcherite  posted on  2012-05-12   8:14:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Artisan (#26)

Trayvon Martin Shooting Range Targets Being Sold Online

This guy is making a fortune selling these targets, lol. I cant help but think that is funny. Why didnt some of the shooters here come up with this idea!

Damn! Out of stock.

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"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-05-12   13:22:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: RickyJ, irishthatcherite (#19)

It may be true that he didn't know she was pregnant, but she had no weapon and she was a woman. If he couldn't handle her without kicking her then he shouldn't be a cop. She is right, he only kicked her because she asked why he tazed her brother. Just policy huh? Well guess what, we civilized people have a policy too, and it is to punish those that hurt people without a cause.

With a name like Raven I'm assuming she was black and we have all seen those videos. some of those black gals can be out of control. I'm beginning to think it is a cultural thing. I doubt seriously she just "asked" the officer why he tazed her brother. As for not knowing she was pregnant, well some of those gals can be big and pregnancy hard to determine by looking. But yes, I think the officer over reacted a bit.


Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?

farmfriend  posted on  2012-05-12   18:28:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: irishthatcherite, RickyJ (#22)

*note to self, read the entire thread before answering*

so she is black but yes she doesn't look large enough to conceal a pregnancy.


Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?

farmfriend  posted on  2012-05-12   18:30:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Eric Stratton (#6)

Swine and human filth like this swine will kill people as long as they know that it's "within policy" and that they won't get in trouble.

Right. The real crime for which summary punishment is swiftly administered is dissing a uniformed statist legionnaire.

He's just a barefoot boy from Georgia who has become her God King.

The truly sad thing is that no matter how minor the victimless offense, if a cop doesn't get immediate cooperation then out come the tools of the trade up to and including deadly force.

Now the powers of the sheriff under the common law of England granted that a peace officer was under no obligation to retreat and escalating force could be used to effect an arrest.

But the shire reeve didn't go around enforcing chickenshit mala prohibita laws which number in the thousands. And offenses that harm no one but only challenge the omnipotence of the law makers and the knuckle dragging goons hired to enforce those countless statutes are dealt with in same zealous manner that one may expect for mala in se offenses such as as barn burning, robbery or murder.

But as long as Hollywood, the media and those cops' families and the timid communities in which the flatfeet swagger pat the bastards on their backs for a job well done we can expect no relief. it will take social pressure and turning their backs on the bastards to finally make a diff.

It may someday be too risky for cops to meander out in the rural hinterlands and away from safety and demand to see papers. But, in state worshiping America we can expect laws requiring us to chain ourselves up at times so that cops can move about with peace of mind. And proud cop daddies and their cowardly supporters will tell us that "If you don't like it then move to Russia, you commie sonofabitch!"

And, just as Tommy Chong was framed for his bong business by a zealous Federal prosecutor because of his "calculated disregard" for federal drug laws against "killer marihuana" in his Cheech & Chong films, we can someday expect a ban on movies like The Blues Brothers where cops crash their cars while vowing to "get those guys".....outlaws who should not "poison the youth with such messages, i.e. "some people take freedom just a bit too far."

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2012-05-13   13:19:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Artisan (#26)

This guy is making a fortune selling these targets, lol. I cant help but think that is funny. Why didnt some of the shooters here come up with this idea!

Do I detect a note of sarcasm in your post?

For what it's worth I find the sale of such targets in poor taste, and what if a backlash against innocents is directly attributable to them?

If some "not well person of color" hoses down a predominantly Caucasian elementary school the way Patrick Purdy opened fire on predominantly Southeast Asian refugees and then tells the cops that these targets pushed him over the edge, the parents of the victims will suffer for this ill conceived marketing and publicity stunt.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2012-05-13   13:50:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: HOUNDDAWG (#32)

true. they are in bad taste primarily because it disrespects the life of the victim. but, at first glance. it was funny. opportunistic money maker, folks will always find taudry ways to earn a buck.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-05-13   14:14:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Artisan (#33) (Edited)

true. they are in bad taste primarily because it disrespects the life of the victim. but, at first glance. it was funny. opportunistic money maker, folks will always find taudry ways to earn a buck.

Right.

It's not that I haven't had thoughts along these lines in the past but I was never inclined to act on them.

One exception was when DE executed a Native American cutthroat named James Allen Red Dog.

After he boasted that killing whites would result in his spirit soaring like an eagle, on the day he was executed I was outside near the prison on a major highway with a sign that read, "SMYRNA, DE-GATEWAY TO HEAVEN".

EDIT: I was interviewed by the side of the highway and my name and quotes were in three places in the next day's newspaper.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2012-05-13   14:30:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: HOUNDDAWG (#31)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

America: Israel's Handmaiden

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-05-13   21:55:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Eric Stratton (#35)

The endless stream of TV shows that I see ads for, all glorify the swine.

That's been a sore point with me ever since the first film I can recall encouraged the audience to applaud a cop meting out "street justice".

The film was COBRA with Sly Stallone, and a real, ugly monster looking crim (who looked like a character from the Warren Beatty Dick Tracy movie) was saying, "Go ahead, cop, you gotta take me in. I got rights. Go ahead cop, you gotta arrest me", and then Sly blew him away as the audience cheered.

There were no witnesses of course, and it apparently escaped the cognizance of those who applauded Sly on cue (just as Hollywood hoped) that any cop who's about to pop a vein when you or I challenge his authority would do the same to us if it ever becomes the accept norm.

I mean, if cops know that juries will "applaud summary executions" (a minority of jurors decide cases both civil and criminal) and conveniently placed weapons are found (but witnesses are not) near our bullet riddled bodies, then there will be no administrative or legal repercussions when they blow off steam by killing citizens whose hatred of cops caused them to learn ways to peacefully and lawfully resist police abuse.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2012-05-13   22:43:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: HOUNDDAWG, eric stratton (#36)

your post reminds me of a case here in SoCal a few years ago where a cop was filmed shooting a guy who was clearly complying with the cops orders. Thanks to the video, the cop was actually fired and charged criminally, but the JURY let him off scott free! amazing. and, the guy who took the video from his back yard, the cops came after him and deported him (despite the fact that the same cops constantly claim they have nothing whatsoever to do with immigration and refuse to deport anyone else.)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis...utality_in_the_United_Sta tes#cite_note-9 January 29, 2006: The shooting followed a pursuit in which Elio Carrion, an Air Force senior airman who had recently returned from Iraq, was the passenger in a Corvette that led deputies on a high-speed chase. San Bernardino Deputy Ivory Webb held Carrion and Luis Escobedo, the driver, at gunpoint as a nearby resident videotaped the encounter. The video, which has been played repeatedly during the trial, shows Webb shoot Carrion three times as Carrion complied with the deputy's orders to "get up." Carrion survived the shooting, and Webb was dismissed from the force as a result of his actions. Webb was charged with attempted manslaughter and assault with a weapon, but was acquitted by a jury. The county settled with Carrion for $1.5 million.[10]

County reaches $1.5 million settlement in Elio Carrion shooting case www.insidesocal.com/sb/ie...ounty-reaches-15-million- sett.html Attorneys for San Bernardino County have reached a $1.5 million settlement agreement with an Air Force sergeant who was shot three times by a sheriff's deputy following a high-speed chase in 2006

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-05-13   23:36:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Artisan (#37)

your post reminds me of a case here in SoCal a few years ago where a cop was filmed shooting a guy who was clearly complying with the cops orders. Thanks to the video, the cop was actually fired and charged criminally, but the JURY let him off scott free! amazing. and, the guy who took the video from his back yard, the cops came after him and deported him (despite the fact that the same cops constantly claim they have nothing whatsoever to do with immigration and refuse to deport anyone else.)

Unbelievable.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2012-05-14   2:15:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Artisan (#37)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

America: Israel's Handmaiden

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-05-14   11:06:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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