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Title: Ron Paul stuns in Arizona, upset win is game changer!
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URL Source: http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2012/ ... ona-upset-win-is-game-changer/
Published: May 14, 2012
Author: Doug Wead
Post Date: 2012-05-14 10:37:26 by christine
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Views: 280
Comments: 12

In a repeat of Iowa, where a Mitt Romney State Chairman held up accurate results of the vote for weeks, the Arizona State Convention has gone into overtime. Ballots are supposedly locked up, waiting to be counted “tomorrow.” But citizens and journalists on the floor had no trouble discerning that Ron Paul forces had seized the day and if the vote is fair, he will likely win the majority of delegates from Arizona to the Republican National Convention in Tampa.

If the victory in Arizona proves true, and remember, there is a tantalizing and suspicious delay, then Ron Paul will likely win the right to be nominated on the floor of the Republican National Convention in Tampa. It isn’t over yet, there are some Ron Paul states that have been won at the County or District level, that still need the formality of winning the state convention, but barring parliamentary jujitsu, it is on track to happen. It is big news.

. The past weekend began with infuriating news for the Ronulans, from Norman, Oklahoma, where Santorum and Romney forces united to shut out the Ron Paul people at the Oklahoma State GOP Convention. By some estimates Ron Paul supporters were a majority on the floor of the convention and thus should have walked away with another win. Others, basing the vote on an attempt to elect Ron Paul supporter, Richard Engle as national committeeman, suggested that they actually accounted for 48.2% of the state convention vote. . Said Engle, “Under a one man, one vote scenario, I had a majority. This was acknowledged as the roll call came in from each county. When the program to apportion the votes was done 48.2% was reported. I am challenging the results and calling for a recount as the difference between victory and defeat is less than 2% as we have proof of prior mis-reporting of county numbers as well as a history of making rounding errors. Regardless, the actual majority of Delegates did support me. There is no way of knowing if that directly represents a majority for Dr. Paul.” . And we may never know. Frightened that the Ron Paul delegates had become the majority in the convention, the establishment GOP, running the event, used its own errors in the Credentials Report to stall the convention for several hours. On the premise that the time for the convention hall rental was coming to an end they refused to hold a final vote on credentials or to acknowledge the calls for a roll call vote on the Delegates and Alternates as required under the rules. . Said Engle, “They played fast and loose with the rules. If they had not used a roll call vote on my race I would have won and then they used a voice vote on 50 members of the Delegation and refused a roll call vote at that point. The chair ruled that a roll call was not required when the party rule was shown him in plain English. When the ruling of the chair was challenged he called for a voice vote and proceeded to rule that his decision was upheld despite the overwhelming sound of Delegates against him.” .

The final slate was 62% Romney, 22% Santorum, 4% Gingrich and 4% Ron Paul. A devastating defeat for the majority.

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Paul delegates who had give up weeks and months of their lives to get elected as delegates at the precinct and county levels were scandalized. Taking a chapter from Missouri, they tried to convene outside the venue in the parking lot, claiming a plurality and calling to do things in order. But was it too late? Challenges will surely follow.

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Meanwhile, in Phoenix, Arizona, cocky Romney forces led by Nathan Sproul saw defeat snatched from the jaws of victory. Ironically, the Ron Paul forces came to the state GOP convention to play nice. They offered a deal. ”You know our knack for organizing?” They said, ” You know we have the numbers? Why don’t we make sure there are no surprises and nothing embarrassing. Your candidate has the nomination, we will give you 50% plus one of the delegation to Tampa, that gives you the majority, and let us have a nice delegation of the leftovers for our man too.”

But no. The Mitt Romney forces insisted on scorched earth. ”You can have one,” they said.

The Romney team then proceeded to fall apart. It was so bad that Ron Paul operative Shawn Dow couldn’t have given them a victory if he had wanted it. Said a Ron Paul staffer, “No matter how we tried, the Romney people wouldn’t move off their one delegate offer. We had no choice. We had to win.”

Sydney Hay, a Ron Paul spokesman who is sometimes seen on the Bill Mahr Show and once won a congressional nomination in Arizona , gave a positive, conciliatory speech to the convention. And Josh Romney was well received by all. And then, in a moment poorly handled, he returned to the microphone to pitch his daddy’s green ballot, with the Romney slate.

Yes, indeed, at that point there were boos but they came from the whole floor, even from Romney supporters who had worked hard to get their names considered as delegates. No one was in the mood to let outsiders dictate a list of his friends who should go to Tampa. It was yet another example of a poorly run machine. The Romney kid should never have been given such an assignment.

“Why make Josh Romney get involved in a precinct level fight for delegates?” asked Sydney Hay. “Here was a presidential candidate’s son down in the gutter in a fight. They never should have put him in this place.”

Ron Paul took 11 of 18 delegates decided in the district caucuses. It was the “at large” delegates that were left in the air. The Romney forces stalled for hours, hoping to outlast the Ronulans who stayed put as Romney delegates, disgusted with their own organization, finally began to drift away.

In a last ditch effort the Romney forces tried to declare that there was now no quorum and other motions were offered. When the vote for the “at large” delegates was finally taken it was sealed, under lock and key, with the promise that “tomorrow we will count those and sort things out.”

Uh huh.

Finally, the lights were turned out and the Ronulans were sent home, exhausted and weary, unaware that they had probably just made history and put their man into nomination at Tampa. For the Romneyites, the unthinkable had happened. It is not done yet, but Ron Paul may very well see his name entered into nomination in Tampa.

This last weekend was perhaps the most mean spirited of all. One has to wonder, if Mitt Romney has won the nomination, why can’t they communicate that message to the state conventions? The fact is that something bigger is happening than the nomination of a candidate. The Republican Party is being remade in the image of Ron Paul, the Thomas Jefferson of our generation. The Ronulan invasion continues. It is not a conspiracy. It is organic. It is natural. And it cannot be stopped.

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Update: Friends in Oklahoma insist that the convention which continued on the parking lot outside was indeed legal, had the quorum needed, and resulted in another win for Ron Paul. I hope they are right and we need to support that process legally and follow the challenges involved.

Romney delegates on the attack.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Ron Paul's young turks need to use force against the GOP's old jerks.

Break out the pitchforks ... no more Mr. Nice Guy.

"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."

The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.

noone222  posted on  2012-05-14   10:46:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All, C-SPAN misreads Ron Paul tweet (#1)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-05-14   10:58:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#0)

Darn.

Just maybe the "republican party" that Ron holds so dear to his heart, DOES NOT WANT HIM TO WIN???????

Who would have ever have that thought cross their minds?

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-14   11:03:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#0)

Update: Friends in Oklahoma insist that the convention which continued on the parking lot outside was indeed legal, had the quorum needed, and resulted in another win for Ron Paul. I hope they are right and we need to support that process legally and follow the challenges involved.

Romney delegates on the attack.

It won't matter. I've seen something similar happen in California and the Sec of State upheld the illegal convention over the one legally held.


Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?

farmfriend  posted on  2012-05-14   11:07:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine, RP friends, 4 (#0)

It felt great to cast my vote for Dr.Paul this morning...I was the second person to sign in on the pubbie side of our early voting.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2012-05-14   11:18:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: noone222 (#1)

seems like this is in large part a generational thing. the 'old guard' types are typically older establishment corn fed seniors who never doubted anything at all their guys in office told em even for a moment.

the bunch who has voted in statist/socialist entitlement programs, etc....folks who keep their senators in office for decades but like to bitch about how things don't change.

the same crowd who was programmed to look toward tools like cronkite and rather and jennings to tell them what to believe and read the paper every day to get 'the news'.

“Like it or not, everything is changing. The result will be the most wonderful experience in the history of man or the most horrible enslavement that you can imagine. Be active or abdicate. The future is in your hands.” 53; Milton William Cooper,

gengis gandhi  posted on  2012-05-14   12:49:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: gengis gandhi (#6)

seems like this is in large part a generational thing. the 'old guard' types are typically older establishment corn fed seniors who never doubted anything at all their guys in office told em even for a moment.

the bunch who has voted in statist/socialist entitlement programs, etc....folks who keep their senators in office for decades but like to bitch about how things don't change.

the same crowd who was programmed to look toward tools like cronkite and rather and jennings to tell them what to believe and read the paper every day to get 'the news'.

ALL too true ... time to reboot.

"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."

The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.

noone222  posted on  2012-05-14   12:54:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: christine (#0)

The Republican Party is being remade in the image of Ron Paul, the Thomas Jefferson of our generation.

The Republican party is on its way OUT.

An old lonely slave comes back from the grave
Searching... searching... searching
For his master who's long gone on

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-05-14   12:56:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine (#0)

It isn’t over yet,

It's not over until the fat lady sings. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-05-14   17:35:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#8)

The Republican party is on its way OUT.

It looks like Ron Paul is on his way out.

"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."

The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.

noone222  posted on  2012-05-14   17:37:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#3)

Just maybe the "republican party" that Ron holds so dear to his heart, DOES NOT WANT HIM TO WIN???????

Who would have ever have that thought cross their minds?

They gerrymandered him out of his House seat by moving the boundaries into the neighboring city from the rural area.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-05-14   17:37:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: noone222 (#10)

One false hope for whitey down.

One to go.

An old lonely slave comes back from the grave
Searching... searching... searching
For his master who's long gone on

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-05-14   23:03:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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