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Title: Why We're Entering the Age of Ron Paul
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Published: May 15, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-05-15 13:51:56 by christine
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#1. To: christine (#0)

Since there are no jobs for young people anymore, they are supporting Paul, since they've found the Bushes/Obamas/Romneys don't have a clue.

I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.

Turtle  posted on  2012-05-15   13:57:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Very good...

Unfortunate he did not mention that Ron has passed the baton off to his son after this election.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-15   14:01:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Since there are no jobs for young people anymore, they are supporting Paul,

I suspect that might be an over simplification.

I am not young and have agreed with Paul for a long time, even sent him money.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-15   14:03:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/112112.html

May 15, 2012 Some Historical Perspective for Ron Paul Activists Posted by Ryan W. McMaken on May 15, 2012 12:47 AM

I've been somewhat surprised by the absolutely hysterical reaction among some RP activists to Ron Paul's announcement that he's shifting resources toward winning more delegates instead of blowing it on straw polls in new primaries. In some of the forums, alleged "supporters" are hurling insults at both Ron and his staffers.

I remember how after 2008, some people I talked to pledged to "never give money ever again" to Ron Paul because he "wasn't serious" about winning. These people think elections are all that matter, but that's not how political and intellectual movements work. The election of numerous libertarian candidates will be a lagging indicator, not a leading indicator, of the success of a libertarian movement. The population still isn't there. Although it will be.

It's absolutely unbelievable that some people who claim to be champions of freedom are now viciously badmouthing a man who can claim much credit in making libertarianism a household word — as it now is — and has been instrumental in building the most important challenge to central banking and the warfare state in a century. All of this is in addition to taking control of the GOP machinery in numerous states and cong. districts.

I might also note that I turned on the tele the other day and there was Ron Paul talking about central banking. Note to newcomer activists: I know it's hard to believe, but before RP's 2008 run, there was once a time when libertarians weren't on TV regularly talking about Austrian free-market economics and the evils of war. I swear it's true. Cross my heart and hope to die.

Politically, Ron Paul is doing what the Religious Right successfully did 20 years ago when it became a major force in the party, and he's rebuilding the intellectual infrastructure of the American right wing in a way similar to what Buckley did in the 1950s. Except, where Buckley only pretended to be for the rule of law and limited government, Ron Paul is the real thing. And Paul's even doing it without CIA money, unlike Buckley. RP's the continuation of the old libertarian movement that existed in opposition to war and the New Deal before it was hijacked by the conservative apologists for the state.

Except now, instead of being composed of a few dozen guys who could all have met in a small hotel ballroom, the movement for peace and freedom is a huge nationwide movement.

Anyone who, like me, teaches people in their twenties can already see a huge change. The ideas of libertarianism have a credibility they have not had in decades, if not not since the late 19th century when Herbert Spencer was a best-selling author in America.

Those of us who have been involved in the libertarian movement for more than ten years can see a huge difference, and those who have been around for decades undoubtedly see even more. Nevertheless, I can understand that a younger person, or a person who has never been politically active before, might view one presidential election as some kind of end-all-be-all of the freedom movement, but it's not.

The Ron Paul phenomenon isn't even close to being done re-shaping the American political landscape, yet amazingly, some people seem to think that not running TV ads in California somehow signifies a lack of seriousness on the part of the Paul campaign. Only a complete lack of experience and historical perspective could lead one to such conclusions.

Three grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for.

christine  posted on  2012-05-15   14:26:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If this is "Ron Paul's Revolution", then it's over.

It has to be bigger than just one man. What happens when he's gone?

This is piss poor management. If they aren't smart enough to prepare for the future, then there will be no future.

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"Those who believe the Bible are those who know the least about it".

Thomas Paine (1737-1809), author and reformer

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-05-15   14:30:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

ATTABOY!!!

Preach that defeatism.

All is lost, give up, stop fighting against your masters.

It all hinges on one man and it is over.

Go back to becoming slaves.

GREAT PSYOPS TECHNIQUE!!!! Did you go to school for this?

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-05-15   14:48:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I am not young and have agreed with Paul for a long time, even sent him money.

The not young part I can believe. As for sending him money with the hatred you have for him, I believe sending him money is a figment of your pickled brain. It didn't happen! You got to lay off that corn liquor.

ambi  posted on  2012-05-15   14:49:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You really are a nutty fucktard. Seriously.

Sometimes it can be funny. Other times I wonder about your sanity.

Other times I multitask and laugh at you while wondering about your sanity. This is one of those times.

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"Those who believe the Bible are those who know the least about it".

Thomas Paine (1737-1809), author and reformer

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-05-15   15:02:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The Ron Paul phenomenon isn't even close to being done re-shaping the American political landscape, yet amazingly, some people seem to think that not running TV ads in California somehow signifies a lack of seriousness on the part of the Paul campaign. Only a complete lack of experience and historical perspective could lead one to such conclusions.

Some of us have been around longer than this gentleman, and we did not arrive on a turnip truck last night.

For someone that is so observant of politics, the gentleman belies that as he never mentions Rand Paul or any other successor to the revolution he decries.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-15   15:19:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Unfortunate he did not mention that Ron has passed the baton off to his son after this election.

Cyni, the focus point is the movement.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-05-15   18:27:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

, the focus point is the movement.

AB...

No movement lives very long without a leader.

Perot garnered twenty million votes, something Paul has never done, then be bailed out on us and the "movement" very quickly died.

If one does their homework on Rand, they find he is VERY MUCH MAINSTREAM REPUBLICAN.

We will have our answer at the convention or shortly thereafter. Meantime, Ron and his staff are trying to keep as many supporters involved and in line as possible.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-15   18:37:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No movement lives very long without a leader.

That explains Christianity... :)

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-05-15   18:41:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Belief in God and the here after accounts for continuity of most religions.

Even atheism has its core strong belief, there is no God nor here after.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-15   18:49:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Atheism, going strong since April 2012!

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-05-15   19:02:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Only a complete lack of experience and historical perspective could lead one to such conclusions.

Can't you read ???

Ha hahahahaha !!!

"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."

The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.

noone222  posted on  2012-05-15   19:17:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Many years ago, a scientist friend taught me a lot about "wordsmiths".

Stringing words together like a necklace is an art, and does not mean I know anything.

Winston Churchill use to be paid by the word.William Buckley the fake conservative also was paid by the word.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-15   19:39:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Buckley was CIA. Why doesn't that p**s anyone else off? We pay these peoples salaries, and they turn around and try to brainwash us.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-05-15   19:52:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

William Buckley the fake conservative also was paid by the word.

I thought I was conservative ... but I was mistaken ... most so-called conservatives are likely fakes.

"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."

The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.

noone222  posted on  2012-05-15   19:57:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Buckley was CIA. Why doesn't that p**s anyone else off?

I'd bet "most" of the talk hosts on radio are connected - TV too for that matter. We're being propagandized 24/7/365 !

"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."

The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.

noone222  posted on  2012-05-15   19:59:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I thought I was conservative ... but I was mistaken ... most so-called conservatives are likely fakes.

who gets to define what conservative means?

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-05-15   20:00:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'd bet "most" of the talk hosts on radio are connected - TV too for that matter. We're being propagandized 24/7/365 !

The people talking on the radio are hired by the radio? ...you should be ashamed, you evil hate preaching monster! :)

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-05-15   20:03:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Buckley was CIA.

Have you ever wondered why Ron Paul never took on CIA,FBI,NSA etc etc????

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-15   20:29:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Have you ever wondered why Ron Paul never took on CIA,FBI,NSA etc etc????

He has, stating that the taxpayers shouldn't be funding any of that crap!

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-05-15   20:35:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Have you ever wondered why Ron Paul never took on CIA,FBI,NSA etc etc????

There's probably a lot of "very" good reasons. The Fed was good enough for me.

"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."

The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.

noone222  posted on  2012-05-15   20:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Here he is in his own words......

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-05-15   20:38:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

He has, stating that the taxpayers shouldn't be funding any of that crap!

Well, if there were no FED there'd be no taxes (or hardly any). All of those agencies would have to rely on drug dealing and mercenary activities.

"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."

The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.

noone222  posted on  2012-05-15   20:39:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

As the crowd begins to cheer, Ron Paul states, “We need to take out the CIA”.

“They are a government unto themselves. Their in buisnesses, their in drug buisnesses… and… they take out dictators. We need to take out the CIA.”

Also, the CIA have infiltrated the Ron Paul Presidential Campaign:

I stand corrected.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-15   20:41:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

America: Israel's Handmaiden

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-05-15   20:55:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

America: Israel's Handmaiden

Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-05-15   20:58:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

[cynicom]: Have you ever wondered why Ron Paul never took on CIA,FBI,NSA etc etc????

[abraxas]:He has, stating that the taxpayers shouldn't be funding any of that crap!

Did you ever ask yourself why Cynicom never took on CIA,FBI,NSA etc.

The rotter is too old to worry about losing his job, so what gives? Why isn't he out haranguing tourists at obscure national monuments right now? Why aren't any of us?

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-05-15   21:01:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-05-15   21:05:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Did you ever ask yourself why Cynicom never took on CIA,FBI,NSA etc.

Normally I do not respond to personal posts, as they are childish and foolish.

Perhaps you can do better?

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-15   21:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Have you ever wondered why Ron Paul never took on CIA,FBI,NSA etc etc????

Have you ever wondered why Ron Paul is the ONLY one to take them on? No, because for all of the years of "following" Ron Paul you seem to be oblivious to what he has ALONE stood up for in regards to our liberties.

Is there another politician who sticks to a fraction of the principles that Ron Paul has held strong on for the past three decades? Anybody hold a candle to his record on standing up for our liberties?

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-05-15   21:11:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Normally I do not respond to personal posts, as they are childish and foolish.

Perhaps you can do better?

That wasn't personal, it was political, and that's why you are angry at me.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-05-15   21:14:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-05-15   21:15:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Anybody hold a candle to his record on standing up for our liberties?

No one.

Were you here four years ago when Christine and I went out on the limb for thousands of dollars in support of Paul on behalf of 4um????

Amazing the silence we were met with. 4um then and now has many talkers, too few doers.

Example...A few days ago I floated the idea of hiring a billboard in Austin TX in support of Paul ahead of the primary.

I received......TWO.....offers of money and support. Two Ab.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-15   21:19:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Have you ever wondered why Ron Paul is the ONLY one to take them on?

Larry McDonald deserves honorable mention

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-05-15   21:20:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Were you here four years ago when Christine and I went out on the limb for thousands of dollars in support of Paul on behalf of 4um????

Doing the right thing isn't going out on a limb Cyni and certainly not worthy of all your bitterness over it. I didn't see your billboard plea or I would have chipped in on it.

Was it the right thing to do? You either let it go with love or keep it in your pocket, but four years of fuming over it is four years too long. Personally, I feel the hundreds I've sent Paul's way is well spent as are all the hours I've spent working on his campaign and attending lame Republican conventions.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-05-15   21:26:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Larry McDonald deserves honorable mention

Actually, I'm relieved to hear of one. Thanks Dak. : )

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2012-05-15   21:27:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Have you ever wondered why Ron Paul is the ONLY one to take them on?

Larry McDonald deserves honorable mention

Don't forget Edgar Steele.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-05-15   21:28:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Were you here four years ago when Christine and I went out on the limb for thousands of dollars in support of Paul on behalf of 4um????

Amazing the silence we were met with. 4um then and now has many talkers, too few doers.

I gave at least 900 dollars to Paul's 2008 campaign, which was about 900 dollars more than I'd ever given to any political campaign.

I also spent hundreds of hours holding up signs and passing out fliers. You want I should buy you a TV station?

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-05-15   21:34:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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