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Title: ObamaÂ’s new free speech threat An Executive order seeks to punish U.S. citizens even for "indirectly" obstructing dictatorial rule in Yemen
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URL Source: http://www.salon.com/2012/05/16/obamas_new_free_speech_threat/
Published: May 16, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-05-16 15:28:36 by tom007
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Obama’s new free speech threat An Executive order seeks to punish U.S. citizens even for "indirectly" obstructing dictatorial rule in Yemen By Glenn Greenwald

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[Obama's new free speech threat] President Barack Obama speaks at the White House in Washington, Tuesday, May 15, 2012. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster) (Credit: AP)

(updated below)

There is substantial opposition in both Yemen and the West to the new U.S.-backed Yemeni President, Abed Rabbo Mansour Hadi. Hadi was the long-time Vice President of the Yemeni dictator Ali Abdullah Saleh, and after Saleh finally stepped down last year, Hadi became President as part of an “election” in which he was the only candidate (that little fact did not prevent Hillary Clinton from congratulating Yemen “on today’s successful presidential election” (successful because the U.S. liked the undemocratic outcome)). As it does with most U.S.-compliant dictators in the region, the Obama administration has since been propping up Hadi with large amounts of money and military assistance, but it is now taking a much more extreme step to ensure he remains entrenched in power — a step that threatens not only basic liberties in Yemen but in the U.S. as well:

President Obama plans to issue an executive order Wednesday giving the Treasury Department authority to freeze the U.S.-based assets of anyone who “obstructs” implementation of the administration-backed political transition in Yemen.

The unusual order, which administration officials said also targets U.S. citizens who engage in activity deemed to threaten Yemen’s security or political stability, is the first issued for Yemen that does not directly relate to counterterrorism.

Unlike similar measures authorizing terrorist designations and sanctions, the new order does not include a list of names or organizations already determined to be in violation. Instead, one official said, it is designed as a “deterrent” to “make clear to those who are even thinking of spoiling the transition” to think again. . . .

The order provides criteria to take action against people who the Treasury secretary, in consultation with the secretary of state, determines have “engaged in acts that directly or indirectly threaten the peace, security or stability of Yemen, such as acts that obstruct the implementation of the Nov. 23, 2011, agreement between the Government of Yemen and those in opposition to it, which provides for a peaceful transition of power . . . or that obstruct the political process in Yemen.”

In other words, the U.S. Government will now punish anyone who is determined — in the sole discretion of the U.S. Government — even to “indirectly” obstruct the full transition of power to President Hadi. But what if someone — a Yemeni or an American — opposes Hadi’s rule and wants to agitate for a real election in which more than one candidate runs? Is that pure political advocacy, as it appears, now prohibited by the U.S. Government, punishable by serious sanctions, on the ground that it “obstructs” the transition of power to Hadi? Can journalists who report on corruption or violence by the Hadi regime and who write Op-Eds demanding a new election be accused, as it seems, of “threatening Yemen’s political stability”?

Jeremy Scahill, who has reported extensively from Yemen over the last year, reacted to the news of this Executive Order this morning by writing: ”This Executive Order appears to be an attack on Americans’ 1st Amendment Rights and Yemenis’ rights to self-determination“; he added: ”apparently the 1st Amendment had an exception about Yemen in it that I missed.” He then asked a series of questions, including: “What if a Yemeni citizen doesn’t believe in a one candidate ‘election’ and is fighting to change their government? US sanctions?” and ”How would Obama define an American citizen as ‘indirectly’ threatening the stability of Yemen’s government?” and “what if an American citizen doesn’t support Yemen’s government and agitates for its downfall? Sanctions from US Treasury? Wow.” Marcy Wheeler has some typically astute points to make about this as well.

The Post article notes that, as unusual as this Executive Order is, Obama issued a similar one for Somalia in 2009, and it has one other precedent: “In 2006, President George W. Bush issued a similar order regarding Ivory Coast in West Africa.” Newspapers should just create a template that says that for every article: this radical and controversial power that Obama has just seized for himself has its genesis in the executive power and war theories of Bush/Cheney. Except for the power to secretly target U.S. citizens for due-process-free assassination-by-CIA and the manic war on whistleblowers — those are Obama originals — that’s a reliable claim to make, which is the point.

When I first began writing about Bush’s War on Terror abuses, I would sometimes be asked whether America still protects certain liberties more than most other countries, and my answer would always be the same: First Amendment rights in the U.S. of free speech and a free press are still more robust than most other countries in the world. It was one realm which the Bush War on Terror had by and large — not entirely, but by and large — left alone. That is just no longer true. Under Obama, we have seen a series of aggressive erosions of even this right in the name of Terrorism.

The Obama DOJ persuaded the U.S. Supreme Court in Holder v. Humanitarian Law to adopt an extraordinarily broad interpretation of “material support” statutes, such that, as Georgetown Law Professor David Cole put it, the Court “–for the first time in its history—[held] that speech advocating only lawful, nonviolent activity can be subject to criminal penalty, even where the speakers’ intent is to discourage resort to violence.” We now routinely see from the Obama DOJ Terror prosecution of Muslim Americans grounded in the expression of their pure political views. Long before any alleged evidence emerged that U.S. citizen Anwar Awlaki had any involvement in any Al Qaeda plots, the Obama administration placed him on a “hit list” because of its fear of the efficacy of his anti-American sermons. American Muslims are routinely targeted by sophisticated FBI entrapment campaigns if their criticisms of U.S. foreign policy (constant bombing of Muslim countries) is sufficiently strident.

There seems to be little question that the Obama administration is devoted to imposing dictatorial order on Yemen through the use of force and liberty abridgment. As Scahill previously reported, Obama has played a direct personal role in the ongoing imprisonment of a Yemeni journalist who committed the crime of documenting the large number of civilian deaths from a U.S. cluster bomb attack on his country as well as exposing the joint lies of the Yemeni and U.S. Government. The latest U.S. drone strike in Yemen yesterday, even according to Yemeni officials, killed more civilians than alleged “militants.” The bombing campaign in Yemen now increasingly resembles the one conducted in Pakistan, though Yemen saw more drone strikes this month than any previous month in Pakistan. AP reported yesterday that there are now U.S. troops on the ground aiding Yemeni soldiers in their fights against alleged AQAP members.

What’s most amazing about all of this is how covert it is. What percentage of Americans even know that the Obama administration is continuously bombing and killing civilians in Yemen, or that American soldiers are now on the ground there in an advisory capacity? How many network news shows air any questions about any of this, and how many MSNBC shows (other than this one) have ever stopped talking long enough about all the supreme GOP Evil to even mention to their progressive audience that any of this is happening or aired questions and challenges about it? I’d be willing to bet that the vast, vast majority of Yemen mentions — almost all — entail little more than grave warnings about the scary threats emanating from there against the U.S., combined with gleeful celebrations of all the glorious Terrorist Kills our strong, resolute, brave Commander-in-Chief has commanded. In the meantime, not only endless militarism and war march on unabated, but so, too, does the erosion of core liberties which it entails.

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Speaking of ongoing erosions of core liberties: a bipartisan group of House members is attempting to enact a law specifying that the indefinite detention powers vested in the President by last December’s passage of the NDAA does not apply to those arrested on U.S. soil; in other words, they are trying to ban military detention on American soil without charges. Even though President Obama, after he signed the bill into law, said he does not intend to use these powers for that purpose, the sponsors of this bill are concerned that — because the law does vest this power — Obama could change his mind at any time or a subsequent President could use those powers. Unfortunately, they are being opposed by key Democratic Senators such as Carl Levin in close cooperation with standard neocon members of Congress. As one tweeter wrote to me yesterday about this: “The fact that government has to be told NOT to do that is insane.” Indeed, and it’s easy to forget how frequently true that is. But the War on Terror has so normalized even the most warped powers — warrantless eavesdropping, torture, indefinite detention, renditions, due-process-free-assassinations, Executive Orders like the one today — that it’s sometimes easy to forget that this is the only real reaction that should be needed.

UPDATE: Those wishing to defend actions such as the issuance of this Executive Order typically argue that although it has the potential to sweep up legitimate and innocent political activity, the U.S. Government intends to use it only to constrain the Bad People: those who seek to use violence or other illegitimate means to achieve their end. Click here for a very partial history of that assurance and then decide if you feel comfortable trusting it.

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#1. To: tom007 (#0)

In other words, the U.S. Government will now punish anyone who is determined — in the sole discretion of the U.S. Government — even to “indirectly” obstruct the full transition of power to President Hadi. But what if someone — a Yemeni or an American — opposes Hadi’s rule and wants to agitate for a real election in which more than one candidate runs?

Ok, I'll be the first.. Fck Yemen and it's new "elected" leader.. may he fall down a flight of stairs and break his damn neck, may the people kick out the POS's behind him and take over their Country.

Now Obama, send your damn goons to see me...

And for those out there, who might be a bit worried about a knock on the door.. this is YOUR Country, Man Up and claim it back from azzholes like this..

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2012-05-16   16:26:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Refinersfire (#1)

And for those out there, who might be a bit worried about a knock on the door.. this is YOUR Country, Man Up and claim it back from azzholes like this..

I'm just waiting patiently. I know it's coming, and probably very soon.

There is no closed season or bag limit on feral pigs.

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"Those who believe the Bible are those who know the least about it".

Thomas Paine (1737-1809), author and reformer

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-05-16   16:41:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Refinersfire (#1)

Ok, I'll be the first.. Fck Yemen and it's new "elected" leader.. may he fall down a flight of stairs and break his damn neck, may the people kick out the POS's behind him and take over their Country.

Seconded... Come get me and my assets.

Indirectly.. Oh fuck that.... Every anarchists that truly believes in anarchy just became indirect obstructs subject to all this. This means me too... I may be a realistic anarchist... Meaning I understand that it wont happen in my lifetime. But I find it something to strive for. Realistically and ethically...at least according to my own ethics... SO I despise and oppose all governments including the yemeni puppet show.

May the newly selected yemmeni puppet leader suffer spontaneous combustion.

Also if their is anti hadi movement let me know so I can donate a few federal reserve notes to them.


I support the occupation
Fuck it if it kills me. Liberty before death.

titorite  posted on  2012-05-16   16:45:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: PSUSA2 (#2) (Edited)

I once had a good old boy in NC tell me, his kinfolk would give an extra Silver Dollar for any Government Agents, that was "winged" ;)

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2012-05-16   16:49:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Refinersfire (#4)

Damn! what was the bounty for actually plugging one?

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2012-05-16   17:09:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: tom007 (#0)

Obama’s new free speech threat An Executive order seeks to punish U.S. citizens even for "indirectly" obstructing dictatorial rule in Yemen

Why should we give a rat's ass about Yemen?

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-05-16   17:26:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: tom007 (#0)

Fucketh them all, Yemen, Obama, and the drone pilots.

"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."

The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.

noone222  posted on  2012-05-16   18:51:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: noone222 (#7)

Your sentiments raise the question; WhoTF will be controlling these drone flights?

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2012-05-16   19:05:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Refinersfire (#1)

Ok, I'll be the first.. Fck Yemen and it's new "elected" leader.. may he fall down a flight of stairs and break his damn neck, may the people kick out the POS's behind him and take over their Country.

Guess I am In.

Hope the US Gulag is air conditioned.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith

tom007  posted on  2012-05-16   20:42:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: noone222 (#7)

Fucketh them all, Yemen, Obama, and the drone pilots.

Well said.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith

tom007  posted on  2012-05-16   20:44:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: BTP Holdings (#6)

Obama’s new free speech threat An Executive order seeks to punish U.S. citizens even for "indirectly" obstructing dictatorial rule in Yemen

Why should we give a rat's ass about Yemen?

Because, if for no other reason, it's a visible precedent for US citizens "obstructing" dictatorial rule in "Israel", and/or in America, to observe and be terrorized, without having it look like "Israel" was the instigator:

"...one official said, it is designed as a “deterrent” to “make clear to those who are even thinking of spoiling the transition” to think again. . . .

The order provides criteria to take action against people who the Treasury secretary, in consultation with the secretary of state, determines have “engaged in acts that directly or indirectly threaten the peace, security or stability of Yemen, such as acts that obstruct the implementation of the Nov. 23, 2011, agreement between the Government of Yemen and those in opposition to it, which provides for a peaceful transition of power . . . or that obstruct the political process in Yemen.” ..."

Couldn't this apply to citizens opposed to "the political process" in "Israel" as well?

"Benjamin Netanyahu, Crowned King of the United States

....HR 4133 was passed in our House of Representatives on May 9th and is headed for the Senate with 304 co-sponsors.

This bill represents an absolute surrender of US sovereignty to the Zionist State of Israel. It will be federal law that if King Netanyahu decides to perpetrate further invasions into the Middle East, his proxies here in the United States must direct the US military to carry out his dictates. The crowning moment will be when Barack Obama bows before the king and kisses his ring through the signing of HR 4133.

To pretend that a majority of the citizenry of the United States supports subservience to the Zionist State of Israel is preposterous. So here we are again, some 236 years since emancipating ourselves from King George, under the rule of a king once again as the United Nations prepares to perpetrate gun confiscation in the US. And why not? Serfs and peasants have never had any right to own weaponry.

If the King of Israel gets his way, the only citizens of the United States that will be allowed to touch a gun are those conscripts who will be fighting and dying around the world for the international conquest for Zion..."

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...gi?ArtNum=146203&Disp=All

President Obama plans to issue an executive order Wednesday giving the Treasury Department authority to freeze the U.S.-based assets of anyone who “obstructs” implementation of the administration-backed political transition in Yemen.

"The Question is WHY?

[look at]....12 Statutes at Large 319, you will have your answer. They have never repealed this statute. The codes in Title 28, and Title 50 that pertain to seizure, have their source as this Statute at Large. ....I WILL CAPITALIZE those words that the government is using today to allow the destruction of your freedom. They wrote this Statute during the Civil War but the important words do not pertain to only Civil War. During the Reconstruction Acts the Congress reversed the roles of the people and the government. In other words the people became the slaves of Congress. This is why they never repealed this Statute and allowed Congress to use the statutory words of construction to rule the people with an iron hand. This Statute is the root of all people's problems with seizure today, whether they are drugs, taxes, property condemnation and on and on.

THE ANSWER IS HERE
THIRTY-SEVENTH CONGRESS. Sess. I. Ca. 60, 61. 1861

Chap. LX - An Act to confiscate Property used for lnsurrectionary Purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That if, during the present or any future insurrection against the Government of the United States, after the President of the United States shall have declared, by proclamation, THAT THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES ARE OPPOSED, and THE EXECUTION THEREOF OBSTRUCTED, by combinations too powerful to be suppressed by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, or by the power vested in the marshals by law, any person or persons, his, her, or their agent, attorney, or employee, shall purchase or acquire, sell or give, any property of whatsoever kind or description, with intent to use or employ the same, or suffer the same to be used or employed, in aiding, abetting, or promoting such insurrection or RESISTANCE TO THE LAWS, or any person or persons engaged therein; or if any person or persons, being the owner or owners of any such property, shall knowingly use or employ, or consent to the use or employment of the same as aforesaid, ALL SUCH PROPERTY IS HEREBY DECLARED TO BE LAWFUL SUBJECT OF PRIZE AND CAPTURE WHEREVER FOUND; AND IT SHALL BE THE DUTY OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO CAUSE THE SAME TO BE SEIZED, CONFISCATED, AND CONDEMNED......

The words, "THAT THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES ARE OPPOSED, and THE EXECUTION THEREOF OBSTRUCTED," are self evident that if you oppose .... [dictatorship wherever CorpUSA deems it] ..... then you come under this war powers' statute and as an enemy, have no rights. These are facts that anyone cannot dispute as the law is clear on this as are the words, "RESISTANCE TO THE LAWS."

They cannot dispute the fact that under War Powers the President is commander-in- chief and is one of the functions under the Constitution that the President can enforce. He does so under the flag showing the jurisdiction of the commander-in-chief, that being the gold fringe on the flag. This is clear in the words of the Statute, "ALL SUCH PROPERTY IS HEREBY DECLARED TO BE LAWFUL SUBJECT OF PRIZE AND CAPTURE WHEREVER FOUND; AND IT SHALL BE THE DUTY OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO CAUSE THE SAME TO BE SEIZED, CONFISCATED, AND CONDEMNED."....." www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=5097

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-05-18   16:10:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#11)

HR 4133

Look up HJR 192 online and see what it says. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-05-19   12:06:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#11) (Edited)

Serfs and peasants have never had any right to own weaponry.

Not exactly the same as a United States Citizen.

BTW, if you applied for a Social Secuity Number, you are a United States Citizen.

To be otherwise, you must have a Security Agreement on file with the Secretary of State of your State. This is a whole other ball of wax. This Agreement takes control of your "strawman" and you are now the Secured Party.

BTW, did you look up HJR 192 online? ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-05-21   16:16:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: BTP Holdings (#12)

Was HJR-192 Repealed ?

www.tapesite.com/index17.html

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-05-21   18:36:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: BTP Holdings (#13)

To be otherwise, you must have a Security Agreement on file with the Secretary of State of your State. This is a whole other ball of wax. This Agreement takes control of your "strawman" and you are now the Secured Party.

Well, I'm happy if it worked for you. I know people it landed in jail, because most of this so-called government is lawless, and wields a big stick under color of law. [or maybe it was because they claimed HJR-192 and not Chap. 48, 48 Stat. 112]

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2012-05-21   18:40:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#14)

Was HJR-192 Repealed ?

www.tapesite.com/index17.html

He is right on about this:

the Federal Government has placed insufficient amounts of lawful money in general circulation, i.e., gold and silver coinage, thus, forcing me to "discharge" my debts with commercial paper, i.e., putting them off to a future point in time, and restricting my obligation as a sovereign to "pay" a debt.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-05-22   16:19:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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