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Title: Ron Paul Switches Gears
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URL Source: http://thisiscommonsense.com/2012/05/16/ron-paul-switches-gears/
Published: May 17, 2012
Author: Paul Jacob
Post Date: 2012-05-17 07:42:14 by Eric Stratton
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Views: 502
Comments: 28
The day before the official debut of Brian Doherty’s Ron Paul’s Revolution — the new book on the man, his crusade and his many enthusiastic supporters — Ron Paul slipped his 2012 presidential campaign into neutral: Our campaign will continue to work in the state convention process. We will continue to take leadership positions, win delegates, and carry a strong message to the Republican National Convention that Liberty is the way of the future. Moving forward, however, we will no longer spend resources campaigning in primaries in states that have not yet voted. Talk to a Ron Paul organizer, and you can hear harrowing tales of how the Republican establishment treated Paul’s supporters as outsiders. Despite such ill treatment, chronicler Brian Doherty compares Ron Paul’s future influence on the party to that of the past influence of Barry Goldwater. “His fans understand that Ron Paul is not just out to win an election.” Dr. Paul’s near-term influence, though, is less obvious. In his 2008 outing he was shut out, and held his own very successful parallel rally. What he hopes to accomplish at the upcoming nominating convention remains to be seen. He concludes his letter with promise of further elaboration of his campaign’s delegate strategy. But his main thrust, in this letter and elsewhere, has been to build a long-lasting movement. This is Common Sense. I’m Paul Jacob. Ron Paul Switches Gears
The BBC puts Ron Paul’s delegate count at 104, with frontrunner Mitt Romney 178 short of a lock on the nomination — but that’s at present, before the upcoming primaries. As the BBC concisely summarized Dr. Paul’s campaign, he had some successes in “several contests, in states such as Maine and Nevada,” gaining “some delegates and sometimes a significant portion of the popular vote. But he was viewed by the Republican establishment as a candidate outside party orthodoxy, and he did not manage to win a single primary election.”
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#1. To: Eric Stratton (#0)
This is shocking information. The only reason why Dr. Paul is viewed as outside "party" orthodoxy is because he's actually conservative and the republican party are big government socialist libs. "The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests." The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.
Orthodoxy mean "upright teaching." I see little of upstanding doctrine among the bluenoses the run and populate the republican party. They wage piratical war and call it defense, they are debauched with usury and call it prosperity, they bow to a police state and call themselves free men. They flaunt every lesson that the Founders conferred upon them. I want nothing more to do with them. The existence of the FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM proves the absence of statesmen in D.C. - I want nothing more to do with them either. "The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests." The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.
Ron Paul has said time after time, he is a REPUBLICAN. He was elected twelve times as a "republican". His son is a REPUBLICAN Senator, There are many reasons that tend to make some people consider Ron Paul a ....REPUBLICAN...
Would you be more comfortable if Dr. Paul left the Republican party?
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
More comfortable??? I have been uncomfortable with everyone that professes allegiance to either "major party". This idea favored by many that there are two parties has long been the bane of this country.
Do you have a mental block here? Answer the question! You were asked by Abraxas if you would be more comfortable if Dr. Paul left the Republican Party. Apparently you are so full of hate and BS you can't see straight or you are so damned dumb. You are making Shoonra look intelligent!
Yes, it's a two party fraud. Paul ran as a third party candidate in 1988.....how did that work out Cyni? How did it work out for Perot? Paul professes allegiance to liberty and the Constitution. Hence, no McStain endorsement and a run at the executive as a Libertarian. You conveniently like to omit that data in your analysis. He also consistently votes liberty and Constitution when the rest of his party is voting against it....he's done so for decades. So, your claim that he is a party man flies in the face of his record. " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
Whoa! That's goin' some. Let's not drive the Dodge over the cliff here. Ron Paul said that he dropped out in 1988 at the request of Pat Buchanan. I seem to recall that.
I don't. He dropped out because he couldn't get any traction in a third party run, which is consistent with the reasoning of all third party candidates in this nation. It's hard to trust your recall when you omit so much data if it conflicts and contradicts your opinions/beliefs about Dr. Paul. " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
If you have time, why not check to see if Ron dropped out in 88 at Pats request? I might well be wrong.
AB... Re Pat Buchanan and a lot of corruption in the Paul campaign. This is written in 2008 by a Paul manager, note the reference to Pat. Ron Paul on the Verge of Going Third Party? By Eric Dondero Jan 7, 2008 Rep. Ron Paul's 1988 Libertarian Presidential campaign started with great promise: A former four-term Republican US Congressman running on the ticket of America's third largest party. But it ended in failure and even scandal. Many were predicting over 1 million votes--a Libertarian record. Paul ended up with 435,000. Ron Paul on the Verge of Going Third Party? (NBC) Ron Paul on the Verge of Going Third Party? (NBC) On the money front it was even more of a downer. By some estimates over $3.5 million was raised. Most of it was squandered on full-page NY Times ads, escapades to the Republican National Convention, and lavish luncheons for visiting Libertarian luminaries. On Election Day scores of Lawyers, and Accountants raided the Ron Paul for President Campaign Headquarters and closed down the campaign operation. Campaign Manager Nadia Hayes was arrested by the Nassau Bay, TX Police Department and later convicted for embezzlement of roughly $140,000. American Libertarian magazine November 1988 described the situation: "�a bizarre twist tough-talking campaign manager Nadia Hayes was sacked the day before the election. And the much awaited last minute campaign media blitz largely failed to materialize�. Paul campaign chair Burt Blumert and Paul campaign ghostwriter and direct mail fundraiser Lew Rockwell showed up... unannounced and unexpected (at HQ). Staff were told that they should leave... locksmiths turned up late in the day to change the locks on the office doors." Three years later, an undeterred Ron Paul prepared to launch yet another Presidential Campaign. Many inside the Paul camp were anxious to back a more successful effort and redeem their reputations. Several had been booted from the Libertarian Party in 1989. They were on the receiving end of a mini-purge largely resulting from the scandal-ridden '88 effort. Their new project was Ron Paul, Republican for President. The Trio of Paleo-libertarians Lew Rockwell, Burt Blumert and Murray Rothbard, conspired with ex-Libertarian Republican Organizing Committee members Justin Raimondo and Eric Garris to draft Paul to run again, this time in early GOP primaries. Problem was Paul himself had stayed within the LP and wasn't anxious to re-join the Republicans. In the Fall of '91 Burt Blumert, Paul's longtime partner with his Camino Coins Gold business in Bulingame, CA and the Ron Paul Investment Letter, finally secured permission from Paul to launch an Exploratory Committee, and to raise money for the effort. Paul himself wanted to keep all his options open, including the option of another 3rd party bid. Soon thereafter, Blumert, who is now the publisher of LewRockwell.com contacted this reporter and asked me to run the effort on the ground. I had served as Ron Paul's travel aide in 1988, and had all the necessary contacts, particularly in critical states like New Hampshire. By December we had a few State Coordinators and volunteers in place in New Hampshire ready to go. Everything was under the radar, hoping to catch the Bush people off-guard. But two weeks before our scheduled first trip to NH Pat Buchanan muscled his way into the campaign. On PBS' McLaughlin Group, Buchanan announced that a "good source" told him �a former Congressman� was about to jump in and challenge Bush in the New Hampshire primary. . Ron Paul and I had tickets in hand and a schedule mapped out for a New England swing. Then Buchanan called Paul up the night before our trip and asked him to drop out. Buchanan wanted to run himself. Paul agreed. Murray Rothbard, writing in the Rothbard-Rockwell Report (RRR), wrote at the time: As if our prayers were swiftly answered by Heaven, we now have that candidate and that leader: Pat Buchanan. One might well ask: what about Ron Paul? In November, we called for Ron Paul to enter the Republican primaries, and we joined an exploratory committee to test the waters for that race. We generated an enormous amount of interest from libertarians and conservatives, and from the media, starved for some kind of contest in what had looked like a torpid and boring Bush coronation in 1992. Ron was determined that Bush would not go unchallenged, but he was not anxious for personal reasons to make the race. When Pat phoned him, without hesitation, Ron welcomed Pat's entry into the race, and pledged his support to the Buchanan effort. Unlike most libertarians, Ron Paul understands the real world of politics, and he realizes that in Pat Buchanan we have an unprecedented opportunity to forge a powerful coalition, to create a new libertarian-conservative, Old Right movement. The Paul effort quickly morphed into Pat Buchanan for President. Our New Hampshire Coordinator Chris Tremblay became Buchanan's top Personal Aide throughout the Presidential Campaign. Blumert, Rockwell and Rothbard solicited funds for Buchanan's campaign. Raimondo and Garris became leaders in the "Buchanan Brigades" on the grass roots level. Raimondo famously became the champion for "Gays for Buchanan" and even made a couple national TV appearances for his role. Young paleo-libertarians got into the Republican National Convention that August under the auspices of the "Buchanan Brigades." Over $80,000 was raised for the 1992 Paul for President Exploratory Committee. After Blumert closed up shop, a few vague promises were made to donors promising to spend the money on Ron Paul projects or a PAC supporting Ron Paul style candidates, but nothing ever materialized. Paul, out of Congress since 1985, went on to win a Texas Congressional seat in 1996, again with major fundraising assistance by Blumert and Rockwell. 2008 a replay of what was to be for 1992? The general plan for Paul '92 was to make a big splash in New Hampshire and possibly other early primary states. This was a modified strategy that we used from the 1988 Libertarian Presidential efforts when we campaigned extensively in both Iowa during the Caucuses and New Hampshire during the Primary. The loosely conceived 1992 plan was to utilize the ballot access of the minor Constitutional parties as a fall back after losing the Republican primaries. Howard Phillips and his US Taxpayer's Party were organizing. Other various smaller 3rd parties like the American Party and the rump of George Wallace's American Independent Party had ballot status as well, most notably in California. Phillips had balked on supporting Paul on the Libertarian ticket in '88 but was behind the scenes encouraging Paul to run Taxpayer's Party for '92. Today, these parties are generally under the umbrella of the Constitution Party. The CP has one elected official--Montana State Senator Rick Jore. They have ballot access in 15 states under various names. Most recently they attained ballot status in Arkansas, and a currently conducting ballot drives in a number of other states. In a last minute move the "Texas Independence Association" is seeking ballot access as a political party. Ballot Access News reports: "Texas law, since 1993, has required parties that plan to petition to give advance notice no later than January 2 of the election year. The Texas Independence Party recently notified the Secretary of State that it will attempt to qualify next year." The quasi-secessionist group praises Ron Paul throughout their press release advising: "if Ron Paul is anywhere on the ballot, vote for him." And this late breaking news... The Constitution Party of Alabama has formally endorsed Ron Paul for President. MaryAnn Crum said in a press release Dec. 27, "We feel that Dr. Paul may be AMERICA'S LAST HOPE to return this country to it's Constitution." It went on to say "The ACP is an independent state political party and not affiliated with any national political party." The Constitution Party nominating convention will be held April 22-27 in Kansas City, MO. At the same time there's an active effort to recruit Paul on the Libertarian Party side, as well. The LP has become more Paleo-friendly in recent years with a stridently non-intervenionist stance, while largely casting out it's former Pro-Defense wing. The battles of the late 1980s involving the Paleos have long been forgotten. Libertarian Party Founder David Nolan even offered himself as a possible VP on a Paul ticket. He also let loose some insider LP information on the Yahoo Libertarian Radicals Board saying on December 19: "Eric Garris at antiwar.com was in the process of putting together an ad for the February '08 issue of LP NEWS, wherein a 'blue ribbon' list of Libertarians would have done just what the LNC did in December: asked Ron Paul to seek our nomination. The ad was to appear right AFTER the February 5th Mega-Primary, when it will almost certainly be clear that the GOP will not be nominating Dr. Paul." What Nolan is referring to is the actions by the Libertarian National Committee December 1 and 2 in South Carolina, where LNC member, former Congressman Bob Barr (R-GA) introduced a resolution inviting Paul to run on the LP ticket. It was passed unanimously. The Paul campaign politely declined. For now. Thomas Knapp of Rational Review wrote recently: "�the whole LNC resolution thing was a coordinated activity. The Paul campaign knew about it in advance and approved/encouraged it (maybe even asked for it in the first place!); its movers on the LNC knew precisely what the reaction would be and why." Eric Garris soliciting top LP members to sign a letter urging Ron Paul to run on the Libertarian ticket is also no accident. Garris works directly for Lew Rockwell as his Web Designer and as one of his top political operatives. It's hard to imagine Garris making such a step without Rockwell's encouragement. The Libertarian Party has won ballot access in 27 states so far. The Libertarian Party National Convention will be held in Denver, May 22-26. On Meet the Press with Tim Russert Sunday, Dec. 22, Ron Paul responded that he "needed a little wiggle room" on the question of running as a 3rd party candidate. This could possibly signal that much like 1992, he plans to utilize the New Hampshire primary as a launching pad for a 3rd party effort either on the Constitution or Libertarian tickets, or possibly as a fusion candidate or Independent candidate with support from both parties. Libertarian Party or Constitution Party route still seems to still be up in the air. Ron Paul, famously a ditherer right up until the end, may not even know the answer to that question himself right now. Ballot access wise, the Libertarian Party makes more sense for Paul. But ideologically the CP and other Constitutionalist Parties are a better fit. But with $18.8 million raised for his effort, one thing is sure; the likelihood of Paul just quietly pulling out of the race after a few losses in early GOP primaries is very slim. One wonders though, given Paul's track record with past Presidential runs, will the race end up with expectations met for the Ron Paul supporters and donors? Not too mention a full accounting of the funds raised? Or, will it end with disappointing vote totals and money spent unwisely as in his past efforts? UPDATE: Ron Paul told the Washington Post yesterday that a third party bid would depend on "if the money is there..." Editor's Note - Eric Dondero served on Paul's Congressional staff 1997 - 2003 as Senior District Aide & Scheduler. Eric Dondero is a US Navy Veteran, former Libertarian Party National Committeeman, Founder of the Republican Liberty Caucus and fmr. Senior Aide to US Congressman Ron Paul R-TX. He is now a national Republican Political Consultant based in Houston, Texas.
Done. He didn't even "drop out" as you claim. In the 1988 presidential election, Paul was on the ballot in 46 States,[37] scoring third in the popular vote with 432,179 votes (0.5%).[38] Paul was kept off the ballot in Missouri, and received votes there only when written in, due to what the St. Louis Post-Dispatch termed a "technicality".[39] According to Paul, his presidential campaign was about more than obtaining office; he sought to promote his libertarian ideas, often to school and university groups regardless of vote eligibility. He said, "We're just as interested in the future generation as this election. These kids will vote eventually, and maybe, just maybe, they'll go home and talk to their parents."[37] (Wiki) He ran on his principles then and he does the same now. As for Buchanan.........you have the wrong year all together. Paul considered campaigning for President during 1992,[40] but instead chose to endorse Pat Buchanan that year, and served as an adviser to Buchanan's Republican presidential primary campaign against incumbent President George H. W. Bush.[41] " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
Ab... Re my nr 13, I found this very interesting, by a Paul staffer way back in 2008. I have forgotten a great deal. "One wonders though, given Paul's track record with past Presidential runs, will the race end up with expectations met for the Ron Paul supporters and donors? Not too mention a full accounting of the funds raised? Or, will it end with disappointing vote totals and money spent unwisely as in his past efforts?
AB Most of us read my nr 13 as written by a Paul staffer.
Again.......Paul ran all the way through in 1988 as the Libertarian candidate. He opted NOT TO RUN IN 1992 to support Buchanan. Why are you having such a hard time accepting these clearly stated facts? Please.....Eric Dondero? Seriously? That is your source? A disgruntled former Paul employee? You are really digging at the bottom of the barrel in a feeble attempt to discredit Dr. Paul Cyni......it's embarrassing to see you stoop to such a low. " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
No, not just a former Paul staffer.......a bitter, disgruntled windbag! His tripe isn't worthy of butt wipe IMHO. " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
AB... Dont make it personal, I do not indulge in such.
Dondero is your source Cyni, one to which you put your full faith in without knowing an iota of his previous bitter tirades about Dr. Paul. Dondero has no credibility and it is embarrassing to see you to post his opinions. That's not personal it is a bit of very well meaning advice regarding this "source"...... Now, about that yummy crow for lunch regarding Dr. Paul dropping out in 1988 to support Buchanan......lol! : ) " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
I have never heard of the gentleman before. It seems he worked for Paul several years. I do recall there being corruption and an investigation'but the details escape me.
Pssssttttt.......you forgot the crow. " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
bwhahahahaha. Sorry, but considering the intimate knowledge you claim to have concerning Ron and Rand Paul's "real" agenda, it is not believable that you would not have heard of Dondero. His hatred of Ron Paul is as great as your own and his constant attempt to harm Dr. Paul is as pathetic as your own. Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown Jesus said, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Evangelical Fundinuts say, "kill them all who will not bow down to the Zionist Jew." - F.A. Hayek Fan
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” —Samuel Adams America: Israel's Handmaiden
As long as you don't throw Turtle over the cliff. I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.
That would be a first!
Pssssttttt.......you forgot the crow. Naw!, him and Jethro had a feast on crow 2 days ago. The sad part of this whole affair is that Cyni is the last word (expert) on all things Ron Paul. It is too bad you had to make him look a bigger fool than he already is because of his stubborn blind hatred of Dr. Paul. You did a masterful job abraxas! Dr. Paul is clearly the best presidential candidate in the last hundred years and maybe the best ever.
Which is exactly why I say it's not believable that someone who supposedly knows so much about Ron Paul would not know who Dondero is. Anyone paying any attention at all to the Ron Paul campaign in either 2008 or this cycle couldn't help but have read about Dondero and his anti-Paul temper tantrums. Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown Jesus said, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Evangelical Fundinuts say, "kill them all who will not bow down to the Zionist Jew." - F.A. Hayek Fan
But he was viewed by the Republican establishment as a candidate outside party orthodoxy
#2. To: noone222 (#1)
party orthodoxy
#3. To: randge (#2)
They wage piratical war and call it defense, they are debauched with usury and call it prosperity, they bow to a police state and call themselves free men.
#4. To: randge (#2)
I want nothing more to do with them.
#5. To: Cynicom (#4)
#6. To: abraxas (#5)
Would you be more comfortable if Dr. Paul left the Republican party?
#7. To: Cynicom (#6)
Would you be more comfortable if Dr. Paul left the Republican party?
#8. To: Cynicom (#6)
(Edited)
#9. To: ambi (#7)
You are making Shoonra look intelligent!
#10. To: abraxas (#8)
Yes, it's a two party fraud. Paul ran as a third party candidate in 1988.....how did that work out Cyni? How did it work out for Perot?
#11. To: Cynicom (#10)
Ron Paul said that he dropped out in 1988 at the request of Pat Buchanan. I seem to recall that.
#12. To: abraxas (#11)
I don't.
#13. To: abraxas, randge, noone222, Jethro Tull, Christine (#11)
#14. To: Cynicom (#12)
f you have time, why not check to see if Ron dropped out in 88 at Pats request?
#15. To: abraxas, randge, noone222, Jethro Tull, Christine (#13)
#16. To: abraxas (#14)
#17. To: Cynicom (#13)
Eric Dondero
#18. To: Cynicom (#15)
by a Paul staffer way back in 2008.
#19. To: abraxas (#17)
Please.....Eric Dondero? Seriously? That is your source? A disgruntled former Paul employee? You are really digging at the bottom of the barrel in a feeble attempt to discredit Dr. Paul Cyni......it's embarrassing to see you stoop to such a low.
#20. To: Cynicom (#19)
#21. To: abraxas (#20)
Dondero is your source Cyni, one to which you put your full faith in without knowing an iota of his previous bitter tirades about Dr. Paul.
#22. To: Cynicom (#21)
#23. To: Cynicom, abraxas (#21)
I have never heard of the gentleman before. It seems he worked for Paul several years.
#24. To: noone222 (#1)
#25. To: randge (#9)
Let's not drive the Dodge over the cliff here.
#26. To: Cynicom, abraxas (#12)
If you have time, why not check to see if Ron dropped out in 88 at Pats request?
#27. To: abraxas, F.A.Hayek, Cynicom, Jethro Tull (#22)
To: Cynicom
#28. To: ambi (#27)
The sad part of this whole affair is that Cyni is the last word (expert) on all things Ron Paul.
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