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Title: 19 Things That All High School Students Should Be Told Before They Go To College
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Published: May 19, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-05-19 08:27:58 by Tatarewicz
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Don't you wish that someone had told you the truth before you went to college? Don't you wish that someone had told you that college has become a giant money making scam that is designed to drain as much money out of students and parents as possible? Yes, college can be a profitable endeavor if you pick your field of study wisely, if you can get someone else to pay for at least some of it and if you can actually get a good job in that field when you graduate. But most high school students are never told to weigh the pros and the cons before they run off to college. The typical high school student is simply told to get into the "best school" that he or she can and to take out whatever loans are "necessary" to pay for that education. Our high school students are assured that those student loans will be paid back easily once they get "good jobs" following graduation. But the truth is that there are some other things that high school students should be told before they go off to college as well. They should be told that student loan debt can cripple them financially for decades. They should be told that the quality of education at most U.S. colleges and universities is a total joke. They should be told that most college graduates do not get a "good job" once they graduate these days. They should be told that after they receive their diplomas they are likely to end up flat broke, waiting tables and living with their parents.

If we would just be honest with our high school students ahead of time, it would save many of them a whole lot of pain later.

Higher education is not necessarily a bad thing. But these days when it comes to higher education the goal should be to get as much for your money as you possibly can. You don't want to end up spending four years of your life and paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for a degree in "art history" or "political science".

If you are going to get a college degree, choose a field that will actually advance your career and try to spend as little as you can. Unless you have wealthy parents who can pay for it all, the goal should be to make as big of a profit on your education as possible.

Unfortunately, most young Americans are not told the truth and they end up falling for the scam and many of them end up as debt slaves for decades.

The following are 19 things that all high school students should be told before they go to college....

#1 A college education has become insanely expensive. Over the past 30 years, the cost of college tuition in the United States has tripled. One father down in Texas says that he will spend a total of about 1.5 million dollars on college expenses for his five daughters before it is all said and done.

#2 As costs have risen, so has student borrowing. Sadly, U.S. college students are now borrowing about twice as much money as they did a decade ago after adjusting for inflation.

#3 Unless you have a wealthy parent, there are some schools that should be avoided like the plague. In the United States today, there are dozens of schools where tuition, room and board total more than $50,000 a year, and only a handful of those schools provide a top notch education.

#4 Our parents and our grandparents paid far less for their college educations than we do today. Back in 1952, a full year of tuition at Harvard was only $600. Today, it is over $35,000.

#5 The college textbook industry has become a gigantic money making scam. It is now common for many college textbooks to be priced well above $100, and overall the cost of college textbooks has tripled over the past decade.

#6 At the end of your education, your diploma will likely come with a debt burden which will hang around your neck for many years to come. In 2010, the average student loan debt burden at graduation was $25,250.

#7 Student loan debt is one of the greatest debt bubbles the U.S. has ever seen. In fact, student loan debt in America has grown by 511 percent since 1999.

#8 Americans now owe more on their student loans than they do on their credit cards. In fact, the total amount of student loan debt in the United States recently surpassed the one trillion dollar mark.

#9 People that pursue advanced degrees can pile up absolutely enormous amounts of student loan debt. According to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, approximately 167,000 Americans currently have more than $200,000 of student loan debt.

#10 The student loan default rate in the U.S. is rising to unprecedented heights. In fact, the student loan default rate has nearly doubled since 2005.

#11 All over America, websites are connecting young college students desperate for college cash with "sugar daddies" that are willing to make a "contribution" to college education in exchange for some "companionship". The following is from a Huffington Post article about this disturbing trend....

On a Sunday morning in late May, Taylor left her Harlem apartment and boarded a train for Greenwich, Conn. She planned on spending the day with a man she had met online, but not in person.

Taylor, a 22-year-old student at Hunter College, had confided in her roommate about the trip and they agreed to swap text messages during the day to make sure she was safe.

Once in Greenwich, a man who appeared significantly older than his advertised age of 42 greeted Taylor at the train station and then drove her to the largest house she had ever seen. He changed into his swimming trunks, she put on a skimpy bathing suit, and then, by the side of his pool, she rubbed sunscreen into the folds of his sagging back -- bracing herself to endure an afternoon of sex with someone she suspected was actually about 30 years her senior.

#12 Once you start college, there is a very good chance that you will not finish. Federal statistics reveal that only 36 percent of the full-time students who began college in 2001 received a bachelor's degree within four years.

#13 At most U.S. colleges and universities, the quality of the education that you will receive is rather poor. Just check out some numbers about the quality of college education in the United States from an article that appeared in USA Today....

-"After two years in college, 45% of students showed no significant gains in learning; after four years, 36% showed little change."

-"Students also spent 50% less time studying compared with students a few decades ago"

-"35% of students report spending five or fewer hours per week studying alone."

-"50% said they never took a class in a typical semester where they wrote more than 20 pages"

-"32% never took a course in a typical semester where they read more than 40 pages per week."

#14 The good news is that you will have more free time in college than you have ever had before. One survey found that U.S. college students spend 24% of their time sleeping, 51% of their time socializing and 7% of their time studying.

#15 You are probably not going to be able to find a good job when you graduate. Last year, a staggering 53 percent of all U.S. college graduates under the age of 25 were either unemployed or underemployed.

#16 After you leave college, you are much more likely to get a crappy job than you are to get a good paying professional job. The following is an excerpt from a recent CNBC article....

In the last year, they were more likely to be employed as waiters, waitresses, bartenders and food-service helpers than as engineers, physicists, chemists and mathematicians combined (100,000 versus 90,000). There were more working in office-related jobs such as receptionist or payroll clerk than in all computer professional jobs (163,000 versus 100,000). More also were employed as cashiers, retail clerks and customer representatives than engineers (125,000 versus 80,000).

#17 If you think that you will be able to "beat the odds" and land the job of your dreams once you graduate from college, perhaps you should consider these numbers....

-In the United States today, approximately 365,000 cashiers have college degrees.

-In the United States today, 317,000 waiters and waitresses have college degrees.

-In the United States today, there are more than 100,000 janitors that have college degrees.

#18 College does a very poor job of preparing people for the "real world". In fact, one poll found that 70% of all college graduates wish that they had spent more time preparing for the "real world" while they were still in school.

#19 Once you graduate from college, there is a really good chance that you will be moving back home with Mom and Dad. One recent poll discovered that 29 percent of all Americans in the 25 to 34 year old age bracket are still living with their parents.

So what do you think about the state of college education in America? Please feel free to post your thoughts below....

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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

All true. I know a very bright girl who just graduated with a degree in speech pathology. Sounds good, right? Turns out you need a master's to have a hope of finding a job in that. She's living with her folks, has student debt which she is barely paying, and is working a low-level job until she can finish her training as an interpreter for the deaf, for which there are ready jobs.

Most college is a scam.

Course what she really should be doing is having babies.

If I had to choose, I'd rather my daughter, when she grows up, learns how to shoot a gun and has babies than gets a college degree.

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Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-05-19   8:42:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#0)

From among 40 comments:

KYTim89

The education bubble is the new financial/real estate bubble. Students that take out loans in the hundreds of thousands of dollars to pay for college are essentially taking out a loan for $150,000 house without purchasing an actual house. It seems like the right thing to do, but bailing out the students only proves that irresponsible behavior will be upheld, which in turn creates even more risky behavior.

The best thing for potential college students graduating from high school would be to learn a trade such as carpentry, welding or wood lathing and then allow the education bubble to burst. The bursting of the education, much like any other bubble, is inevitable. When the bubble does burst, expect colleges to lay off no less that seventy percent of their students and faculty. The higher education system would then correct itself by eliminating teacher tenure, unnecessary construction projects, which include athletics and dormitories, and excessive teacher salaries and redundant classes.

Adapting our education system to a free market would be the best solution. Much in the same way that college kids can buy Phones, computers and LCD TVs is to not allow the Federal government to subsidize the purchasing of college tuition. This is why technology gets cheaper with time, because the government does not buy these things for the consumer. If I can buy a LCD TV today for $200, and it cost $1500 five years ago, then why can’t I do the same for college courses and tuition?

Here the reasons why college tutition costs are going up:

Government subsidies such as Pell grants, FAFSA, and other forms of government aid to students.

Increased demand from students. The rules of supply and demand dictate that as the demand for a service or product grows and the amount of said product or service remains the same, or declines, then the price of the service/good will go up. By channelling all our high school graduates, and older generations, into the college system it has had the effect of raising the cost tutition.

Athletics and coaches salaries. National leauges such as the NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL are multi-billion dollars industries. The multi-billion dollar aspect of those programs have trickled down into the college NCAA. Operating sports arenas and giving coaches $15,000,000 or more per season will eventually add up in the long run.

http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Ex-Duck-coach-Bellotti-leads-PERS-pensioners-with-496K-a-year-134316878.html

Unnecessary construction projects. Withthe real estate system in shamble does it make sense to keep building dormatories for college? All thse facilties do is increase the operating costs of the school, which in turn adds to the overall cost of attending said school. With all the vacant houses on the market, if students need a place to sleep then they should rent out these structures instead.

KYTim89

Enzo

Michael, don’t forget about the “other” side of the textbook scams. Aside from the books being useless (you can literally see all the book has to offer in the chapter summaries, meaning many books can be read in about an hour or so), the texbook “buyback” programs are a super scam! I (and I’m not the only one) rented my useless book for $25 so I got a good deal. However, most students paid the school bookstore the $156 for the book (new), and guess how much the school bought it back for? 10 CENTS! Yes that is TEN (10) CENTS! A DIME! And then they sold that used book next semester for $126! Not only that, but now there is a new college scam going on to stop students from saving money and avoiding the textbook “stealback”: The schools are now colluding with publishers to have University/College custom book editions made for their schools. Obviously, this means we can’t buy or rent books from elsewhere. When will people wake to this scam? College gives them the illusion that they are learning, when most of them aren’t learning a darn thing!

Tatarewicz  posted on  2012-05-19   9:09:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

One of the reasons for the insane college costs is that the federal govt got into the student loan business. When colleges had to fill their dorms with students who either (1) had wealthy parents or (2) could work their way through school or (3) had won substantial scholarships, most colleges had to keep their prices down. But when the govt said "We'll enable almost everyone to pay for college no matter how much it may cost" the colleges heard a mating call and gazumped up their prices as much as the traffic would bear.

The federal student loan program also had this effect: Previously student loans were treated much like mortgages, especially second mortgages, by banks and lenders -- risky and requiring good documentation and probably a hefty interest rate. But the govt eliminated that -- "We'll take the risk" the govt said - and it could because the govt itself was the debt collector. It didn't need to break legs -- it could simply chase indebted students to the ends of the country and never let them go (federal student loans, like taxes owed, cannot be discharged by bankruptcy nor by the passage of time).

Federal student loan interest rates are plenty low -- now about 3% and the President & Congress are very worried that the expiration of a limited law would have that interest rate jump to about 6% - you can't borrow anything from anyone else for a mere 6%! On the other hand, the Student Loan collectors chase you like the freaking Terminator.

Shoonra  posted on  2012-05-19   19:00:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Tatarewicz (#2) (Edited)

With reference to the textbook ripoff -- this was notorious and blatant even when I went to college, but back then (before the internet, before computers) it was tougher to fix blame. Colleges would shuffle around teachers and courses, so it was very probable that if a particular instructor had taught a particular course last year, it would be somebody else teaching that course, or that particular course wasn't even on the schedule, this year, with the result that the textbook that was in use last year was just about worthless.

And, back then, nationwide communication among college booksellers (and between the booksellers and colleges), especially six months or so ahead of semesters, was extremely primitive so finding another school that was going to use a specific edition of a specific textbook (so used copies could find a market) was extremely spotty and had a high commission rate reflected in nearly nothing being paid for the used books.

It hasn't changed much. The internet has made finding potential buyers easier - but publishers have also been using computer technology - to come up with a new edition of a book every year, so last year's edition is just wastepaper.

This gets especially ugly with some rare but extremely attractive courses. About 25 years ago an ugly situation at Georgetown Law School in DC. At considerable expense, the school was offering a course on international trade taught by a famous Ox-Cam professor from England. This prof decided that the only textbook worthy of his class was the very one that he had written, published in the UK; the Georgetown bookstore imported a crateload at unspeakable expense (all brand new). Sold to students at about $110 each (this was circa 1985 when $110 could be your month's groceries). When the semester was over, the prof went back to either Oxford or Cambridge, so nobody else in the USA was teaching with this textbook. The bookstore offered to buy back copies at $1. And, of course, the professor himself had collected his author's royalties from the sale of his book. The students would have lynched him if he hadn't flown away. The school decided on some minor restrictions on teachers - they couldn't make students buy their own books (but they could make students buy the book by the teacher down the hall, and vice versa).

Shoonra  posted on  2012-05-19   20:58:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Shoonra (#4)

With reference to the textbook ripoff -- this was notorious and blatant even when I went to college, but back then (before the internet, before computers) it was tougher to fix blame. Colleges would shuffle around teachers and courses, so it was very probable that if a particular instructor had taught a particular course last year, it would be somebody else teaching that course, or that particular course wasn't even on the schedule, this year, with the result that the textbook that was in use last year was just about worthless.

In 1972 I bought the entire set of textbooks (5 books) for the Undergraduate Honors Course in Physics for 2 years - all but one used for about 6 bucks a book. The one new one was the book for the final Semester (Statiscal Physics) which was about $20 new. (UC Bezerkley Press) The books are mostly still current except for the one on Quantum Physics. Undergraduate Physics hasn't changed that much.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-05-19   21:18:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Shoonra (#3)

One of the reasons for the insane college costs is that the federal govt got into the student loan business. When colleges had to fill their dorms with students who either (1) had wealthy parents or (2) could work their way through school or (3) had won substantial scholarships, most colleges had to keep their prices down. But when the govt said "We'll enable almost everyone to pay for college no matter how much it may cost" the colleges heard a mating call and gazumped up their prices as much as the traffic would bear

Exactly. And at one time the Cal State System had NO tuition. I think my first term at another State School was 235 dollars in 1972 (about $600 in current dollars adjusted for inflation).

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-05-19   21:22:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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