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Title: "The US Air Force Shot Down Flight 93"
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/
Published: May 19, 2012
Author: http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/
Post Date: 2012-05-19 18:03:51 by tom007
Keywords: None
Views: 6549
Comments: 164

"The US Air Force Shot Down Flight 93" The following comment was posted to my blog today (I do not know who the author is -- he posted semi-anonymously; so decide for yourself whether or not you believe him):

"I am an Air Force veteran. I was serving at Langley AFB, Virginia on Sept. 11. (not to be confused with CIA headquarters at Langley, VA). The "Alert Squadron" of 4 F-16 Falcons also stationed at Langley AFB was scrambled AFTER the "plane" crashed into the Pentagon. Because of my position as a ground equipment mechanic, I had access to the flightline operations that day. My friends were Crew Cheifs and Weapons Loaders, among other professions on the flightline that day. One of my [unusual] duties that day was to drive a Loader (personal friend) along with a rack of live missiles (AIM-9's and AIM-120's) across the active runway to the Alert Squadron and drop them off. I was towing equipment to the flightline, so when it was time to go back and pick up the Loader (and our missile trailer) I was unable to do so, but another member of my Flight (a good friend, and later roommate) did go. According to my roommate (and I later confirmed with the Loader) the Loader was completely silent most of the trip back to our side of the base, after they crossed the active, he spoke. "They shot one down." JJ replied "WHAT?" Loader:"One of those 16's came back with one less missile than it left with" That was all. As they pulled back in to the squadron area, The loader was whisked away by his commanders for debriefing. I didn't see him for a few days, but when I did, he said he couldn't talk about it, but he confirmed that what my roommate had told me was true.

The US Air Force shot down Flight 93. I haven't told this to many people. I told my parents and other family members shortly after I left the military. They didn't believe it. I figured no one else would either. I kept my mouth shut. Everyone was dedicated to the president and the country (not really) And anything that went against the Official, media delivered story was viewed as unpatriotic. I knew that I loved this country, so I kept my mouth shut. I just can't do that anymore. I know that I don't have any documents to prove it, and I have no way of knowing where the others involved are now days, so I can't prove anything. All I have is my word. and with God as my witness that is the truth."

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#4. To: tom007 (#0)

Nonsense.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-19   22:05:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#4) (Edited)

Flight 93: Proof of 9/11 Lies by the US Government and Media

An article detailing Flight 93's last minutes was briefly available at dailynews.yahoo.com on 9/11/2001. It not fit the official story of the last moments of Flight 93 and rapidly disappeared from news websites, but it can still be found at the web archive:

Minutes before the 10 a.m. crash, an emergency dispatcher in Pennsylvania received a cell phone call from a man who said he was a passenger locked in a bathroom aboard United Flight 93. The man repeatedly said the call was not a hoax, said dispatch supervisor Glenn Cramer in neighboring Westmoreland County. "We are being hijacked, we are being hijacked!" Cramer quoted the man from a transcript of the call. The man told dispatchers the plane "was going down. He heard some sort of explosion and saw white smoke coming from the plane and we lost contact with him," Cramer said. [Yahoo News, Tuesday September 11 11:27 PM EDT]

The following eyewitness interview indicates Flight 93 was shot down:

It was reported that a missile was heard before the crash:

"I know of two people - I will not mention names - that heard a missile," [Mayor Ernie Stuhl] said. "They both live very close, within a couple of hundred yards. . .This one fellow's served in Vietnam and he says he's heard them, and he heard one that day." The mayor adds that based on what he knows about that morning, military F-16 fighter jets were "very, very close." [philly.com]

Debris fell from Flight 93 nearly six miles from the crash scene...

[I]nvestigators also are combing a second crime scene in nearby Indian Lake, where residents reported hearing the doomed jetliner flying over at a low altitude before "falling apart on their homes."

"People were calling in and reporting pieces of plane falling," a state trooper said. Jim Stop reported he had seen the hijacked Boeing 757 fly over him as he was fishing. He said he could see parts falling from the plane. [pittsburghlive.com]

...human remains were found miles from the crash scene...

Finding the flight data recorder had been the focus of investigators as they widened their search area today following the discoveries of more debris, including what appeared to be human remains, miles from the point of impact at a reclaimed coal mine. [Pittsburgh Post Gazette]

...light debris was found miles from the crash scene...

"Pennsylvania state police officials said on Thursday debris from the plane had been found up to 8 miles away [from the crash site] in a residential community where local media have quoted residents as speaking of a second plane in the area and burning debris falling from the sky." [Idaho Observer]

...and the following footage proves Flight 93 did not crash in a single piece but came apart in midair and scattered over a wide area:

The military refused to rule out a shoot down on September 15, 2001...

[F]ederal investigators said on Thursday they could not rule out the possibility that the United jet was shot down. "We have not ruled out that," FBI agent Bill Crowley told a news conference when asked about reports that a U.S. fighter jet may have fired on the hijacked Boeing 757. "We haven't ruled out anything yet."  [CBS 58 News]

...the Washington Envoy to Canada says Bush ordered a shoot down...

[I]t was a Canadian general at Norad who scrambled military jets under orders from Bush to shoot down a hijacked commercial aircraft headed for Washington. [cnews]

...Donald Rumsfeld said the plane was shot down...

"I think all of us have a sense if we imagine the kind of world we would face if the people who bombed the mess hall in Mosul, or the people who did the bombing in Spain, or the people who attacked the United States in New York, shot down the plane over Pennsylvania and attacked the Pentagon..." [WorldNetDaily]

...and in the opening remarks of a Guantanamo trial it was said the plane was shot down:

"If they hadn't shot down the fourth plane [Flight 93] it would've hit the dome," Stone, a Navy officer, said in his opening remarks. [Reuters]

Yet the official story removes all evidence of a shoot down, specifically the phone call reporting an explosion and smoke on board the aircraft while it was in flight, and the same media that carried early reports of evidence of a shoot down now parrots the official version without question.

The important point here isn't the shoot down. Most people would agree that under the circumstances, it was the best course of action. The point is that we are seeing clear evidence of the manipulation of information being fed to the public regarding 9/11.

What else is the government concealing about 9/11?

Bill D Berger  posted on  2012-05-19   23:09:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Bill D Berger (#9)

What else is the government concealing about 9/11?

Concealing a great deal.

Hysterical speculation and conspiracy theories enhances their lying.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-19   23:19:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Cynicom, Bill D Berger (#10)

I have to agree with Bill on this one. For me the clincher is the physical evidence which is supported circumstantially by the eyewitness reports. Ground impacts, even at high speed, do not create a debris field that extends out 8 miles. And one of the things found out at that 8 mile point was a very heavy metal door. Not very aerodynamic and any impact which would have been powerful enough to eject it out that far would have destroyed it. That is highly anomalous.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-05-19   23:47:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Original_Intent (#14)

I admit, I was not there, I saw nothing.

Does the government lie???? Certainly.

Do they lie when they have NO CONTROL over hundreds of people involved? No.

Case in point, USS Liberty. Government had total control of all persons involved, tried to contain the episode by lying,and intimidating the crew, it did not work.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-20   4:46:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Cynicom, Artisan, Jethro Tull, all (#37)

I admit, I was not there, I saw nothing.

You are evading the issues Cyni.

What is the physical evidence telling us?

Doors are not ejected 8 miles from a crash impact site - unless the plane is in a hypersonic flight path and probably not even then.

Engines are not ejected a mile from a crash site.

The debris field from a normal crash is less than a quarter mile.

We have eyewitness reports of debris raining down 8 miles out. The only way that happens is if the aircraft was already breaking up in the air.

So, eyewitness reports exist of people seeing what they believe were military aircraft operating in the area.

Between the debris field and the various witness reports the explanation that best seems to fit is that the aircraft was shot down.

You may want to resist that conclusion, but in the end it is not my conclusion to make for you, but what does the evidence suggest?

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-05-20   5:24:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Original_Intent (#40)

So, eyewitness reports exist of people seeing what they believe were military aircraft operating in the area.

So, eyewitness reports exist of people seeing what they....... believe were military...... aircraft operating in the area.

OI, therein lies the problem with speculation, people honestly believe, after the fact what they saw or heard. They may well be right but they also may be wrong. There were dozens of people, military and civilian, that were watching all of this unfold on radar.

To my knowledge there has not been one person that has stepped forward and acknowledged a shoot down, witnessed by them on radar, not one.

Accepting a shoot down, there was no way all the civilians could have been muzzled. Not one person involved in the shoot down has ever stepped forward, not one. It is all conjecture and speculation based on what people believe.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-20   9:07:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#46. To: Cynicom (#44) (Edited)

watching all of this unfold on radar...

...during an excercise that was designed to befuddle radar operators by giving them phony bogies on their screens.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-05-20 09:09:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Cynicom (#44)

To my knowledge there has not been one person that has stepped forward and acknowledged a shoot down, witnessed by them on radar, not one.

That's because they were all put under gag order. In fact other than the first day or two you will see no flight controller commenting anywhere at anytime about what they saw that day.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-05-20 14:04:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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