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Title: 10 reasons why some don't care about eligibility
Source: WND
URL Source: http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/10-reaso ... e-dont-care-about-eligibility/
Published: May 21, 2012
Author: Joseph Farah
Post Date: 2012-05-21 08:27:22 by ndcorup
Keywords: None
Views: 170
Comments: 13

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10 reasons why some don't care about eligibility

Exclusive: Joseph Farah outlines arguments against pursuing truth about Obama

by Joseph Farah

1) Some people don’t care about Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility because they value his presidency higher than they value the Constitution.

2) Some people don’t care about Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility because they believe it would be dangerous to the stability of the country to pursue it.

3) Some people don’t care about Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility because they understand it is dangerous to do so.

4) Some people don’t care about Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility because they simply don’t believe a national fraud of this magnitude could have been pulled off.

5) Some people don’t care about Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility because they don’t care about the integrity of the Constitution. Period.

6) Some people don’t care about Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility because pursuing it means damaging your personal reputation due to ridicule by the political and cultural establishment.

7) Some people don’t care about Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility because they have in mind future candidates of their own who might not qualify if the provision is taken seriously.

8) Some people don’t care about Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility because they don’t care about politics. Period.

9) Some people don’t care about Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility because they don’t believe “it’s a winning issue.”

10) Some people don’t care about Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility because they think this particular provision is “an anachronism.”

It’s this last group I want to discuss today.

Do you think this debate started in 2008?

You’re wrong. It started way back in 2004.

On Oct. 5, eight years ago, the Senate Judiciary Committee held a long-forgotten hearing on the subject of “Maximizing voter choice: Opening the president to naturalized Americans.”

This was two years before Obama was even elected to the U.S. Senate.

One of the advocates for the plan was Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass. When WND revisited this hearing in 2009, his comments were still are available in an audio file posted at Talk Radio News. That posting, like so many others involving this issue, has since mysteriously been scrubbed.

Here’s some of what he said on the subject: “I believe in the right of the people to choose as they wish. People say, ‘Well you’re amending the Constitution.’ The fact is in 1789 the notion of direct democracy was not the one that governed. Clearly in terms of world history the people who came to the American continent … they went for the first time to self-governance, but they didn’t go all the way. We have evolved substantially since that time, I think in a good direction. We do have now this major obstacle in the way of the voters, and we say to them, ‘We don’t trust you, you could get fooled, I mean, they might, some foreign country might sucker you by getting some slick person and mole him into the United States or her and get that person citizenship and then years later have that person get elected president and you’ll be too dumb to notice.’ I don’t think that’s accurate and I don’t think that ought to be the governing principle. I really believe that the people of the United States ought to have the right to elect as president of the United States someone they wish.”

It should surprise no one, of course, that Barney Frank is wrong about this. He’s wrong about everything.

But take a look at what others had to say at that hearing so long ago:

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Orrin Hatch, R-Utah: “What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen. But a child who is adopted from a foreign country to American parents in the United States is not eligible for the presidency. Now, that does not seem fair or right to me. Similarly, it is unclear whether a child born to a U.S. serviceman overseas would be eligible. This restriction has become an anachronism that is decidedly un-American. Consistent with our democratic form of government, our citizens should have every opportunity to choose their leaders free of unreasonable limitations. Indeed, no similar restriction bars any other critical members of the government from holding office, including the Senate, the House of Representatives, the United States Supreme Court, or the president’s most trusted Cabinet officials. The history of the United States is replete with scores of great and patriotic Americans whose dedication to this country is beyond reproach, but who happen to have been born outside of our borders.”

Keep in mind, these comments were being made by a Republican four years after a fellow Republican senator born overseas to an American serviceman overseas had sought the nomination of his party for the presidency. Sen. John McCain would seek the presidency again four years later – and face a barrage of hostile media raising the issue of constitutional eligibility, culminating in a unanimous Senate vote of approval of his qualifications. Sen. Barack Obama voted in the affirmative, but avoided any media scrutiny of his own credentials except for WND.

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#5. To: ndcorup (#0)

Back about 7 years ago it was REPUBLICANS telling us we should repeal the "natural born citizen" requirement so Arnold Schwartenegger could run for President. At the time they said that the natural-born restriction no longer served a useful purpose.

But, in the here and now, a great many people ignore the birther fuss about Obama, not because they are indifferent to the Constitution, but because they uphold it strongly and strictly, when it says (Article IV, Section 1) "Full faith and credit shall be given in each State to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other State", they sincerely believe that the birth certificate issued by the State of Hawaii, as well as the public attestations of its authenticity by the previous Governor, the current Governor, the Director of the State Health Dept and the supervisor of the office of vital records, are entitled to "full faith and credit."

Shoonra  posted on  2012-05-21   13:07:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#7. To: Shoonra (#5)

So should Ohio recognize the legitimacy of a gay marriage performed in New York even though Ohio has not legalized gay marriage?

strepsiptera  posted on  2012-05-21 15:43:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Shoonra (#5)

Back about 7 years ago it was REPUBLICANS telling us we should repeal the "natural born citizen" requirement so Arnold Schwartenegger could run for President. At the time they said that the natural-born restriction no longer served a useful purpose.

But, in the here and now, a great many people ignore the birther fuss about Obama, not because they are indifferent to the Constitution, but because they uphold it strongly and strictly, when it says (Article IV, Section 1) "Full faith and credit shall be given in each State to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other State", they sincerely believe that the birth certificate issued by the State of Hawaii, as well as the public attestations of its authenticity by the previous Governor, the current Governor, the Director of the State Health Dept and the supervisor of the office of vital records, are entitled to "full faith and credit."

Except that the State of Hawaii has never certified Oh'bummer as being born there. The weasel wording used was that they have his "vital records". That is not the same and you damn well know it. They were afraid to tell the truth and afraid that a false statement could come back to haunt them - so they side stepped it while mouthing words that the weak minded accepted as verifying Oh'bummer's legitimacy.

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