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Title: Urgent PC Request
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Published: May 21, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-05-21 10:51:03 by Eric Stratton
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My laptop just shit the bed.

It's fine, it's 7+ years old (or maybe even 8+, not sure it's been so long) and I've gotten far more than average life out of it.

Nevertheless, it needs to be replaced. It's the physical aspects of it that are crumbling, not the internal or s/w ones.

All I really need is a "blank" laptop since all the new ones come w/ Windows 7 which I hate.

I own XP so I can reinstall that over anything that I buy. But where can I get a list of which programs work w/ Linux? Should I consider using Linux? (I don't need a litany of reasons, just whether or not it's practical, etc. I know it's better by my understanding than Windows.)

I still use Outlook Express, which XP supports. Can it be run on Linux?

... or should I just buy a plain laptop and install XP over whatever's on it?

I'm so confused ...

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#10. To: Eric Stratton (#0) (Edited)

All I really need is a "blank" laptop since all the new ones come w/ Windows 7 which I hate.

There are several problems and limitations with using an older operating system such as XP with newer machines.

First off, there are more than likely hardware devices on the newer machine which XP will not recognize or handle correctly without downloading the appropriate device drivers from the motherboard manufacturer, or from Intel in terms of chipset drivers. Disk IO device drivers (such as SATA drivers) will also more than likely need to be downloaded and installed.

Then there is the memory limitation under 32 bit operating systems. It's 4 GB in total, but that includes all the hardware IO ranges and operating system device drivers, so you end up with about 3.2GB of available space for RAM. On a 64 bit OS the limit varies depending on the version of Windows. It can range from 8GB on Vista Home Basic, to 2TB on some versions of Windows Server 2008 R2.

Windows 7 64 bit can address from 8GB on Windows 7 Home Basic, to 192GB for Windows 7 Ultimate.

Memory Limits for Windows Releases

Since most machines have over 4GB of memory these days, it's almost a necessity using a 64 bit OS in order be able to access all of the available memory. XP does have a 64-bit version as well, but it's not well supported in terms of device drivers from hardware manufacturers.

Just suck it up and give Windows 7 a try, it's really a much better OS than XP and most definitely better than Vista.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-05-21   14:59:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2012-05-21   16:24:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Probably the single biggest PITA about that is how f'ing MS made Outlook Express so damned proprietary that it's impossible to transfer files history to any other e-mail app like Thunderbird, at least w/in different e-mail folders.

i agree. i love my older HP laptop with XP and OE. i'm now on a newer one with Windows Pro 7 and i am not happy with Thunderbird at all. as usual, things change for the worst.

christine  posted on  2012-05-21   23:50:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I have three laptops I can use, and I prefer my HP Pavilion DV6000 for day to day wifi-ing. It's older, but I've put all the Ram I can on it and have a large drive in it. My new one I am scared to have such eye candy on the table of some coffee shops I go to.

I like the one across from the jail for example. But people coming down doe lane County work crews they were sentenced to spend time on come in there. I take the laptop to the rest room or am away from my table for any reason.

A laptop with a low resale value is the better choice for public use.

I had the video card separate from my mobo on this computer. U used the trick of putting the mobo in the oven with a weight holding the video card in place as the solder melted and resumed the electrical connection.

Taking these machines apart and putting them back together is a pain in the neck, but it was cheaper then buying a new old stock mobo for a computer like this one.

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